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Sarfraz Nawaz on a TV show cast doubt on SSA's action saying it should be picked up by a coach and fixed soon.

I don't know whether action is OK or not l, that's a different question, but seriously??? When nobody in the world has questioned his action, you being an ex cricketer yourself are throwing this conspiracy in media to destroy your own country's best fast bowler career, who has become a genuine threat to world batters and is not only Pak but world class star right now...

Shame on this Joker... He should be punished by court and case should be very much equal to traitor to Pakistan... And by the way, shame on geo news for reporting this sort of rubbish...

If Sarfraz had any recommendations regarding this issue, live TV show wasn't the place to say this garbage... He should have approached PCB directly or through any other reference should have conveyed his msg if he was so sincere...
 
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Shaheen Afridi's Bowling Action...


Sarfraz Nawaz is actually completely correct to have doubts about Shaheen Afridi's bowling action. I find it very odd that I Haven't seen anyone here question Shaheen's action. I was just about to make a thread about it, but this thread came.

Shaheen Afridi is my favourite player, but match after match, I feel more uncomfortable watching him, his action looks like he is a clear chucker. And the suspicion for me started with his iconic spell versus India in T20 WC. The thing is Muhammad Hasnain had a cleaner action than Shaheen's current action, but his action was illegal, which puts, even more, doubt and nervousness in my mind.

I would really prefer if he did a lab test immediately, so all the doubt can go away.

If his action is legal, then phew

If it is illegal.... then :jk, Pakistan Cricket will take a huge blow....

Compare Naseem Shah, Mohammad Amir, Hassan Ali, action to Shaheen, Shaheen looks like a clear chucker to these others.

Until the test is done, I won't be able to get over this issue.
 
Sarfraz Nawaz still has an inferiority personality complex due to his poor background.He was a decent bowler but he has nothing else going for him.He has no personality,poor education and makes rash statements.
 
Absolute joke

Night and day difference between Shaheens action and the illegal action of Hasnain.
 
Bilal Ahmad15 said:
Shaheen Afridi's Bowling Action...


Sarfraz Nawaz is actually completely correct to have doubts about Shaheen Afridi's bowling action. I find it very odd that I Haven't seen anyone here question Shaheen's action. I was just about to make a thread about it, but this thread came.

Shaheen Afridi is my favourite player, but match after match, I feel more uncomfortable watching him, his action looks like he is a clear chucker. And the suspicion for me started with his iconic spell versus India in T20 WC. The thing is Muhammad Hasnain had a cleaner action than Shaheen's current action, but his action was illegal, which puts, even more, doubt and nervousness in my mind.

I would really prefer if he did a lab test immediately, so all the doubt can go away.

If his action is legal, then phew

If it is illegal.... then :jk, Pakistan Cricket will take a huge blow....

Compare Naseem Shah, Mohammad Amir, Hassan Ali, action to Shaheen, Shaheen looks like a clear chucker to these others.

Until the test is done, I won't be able to get over this issue.
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I want to be clear first that I am not commenting on Shaheen's action at all- I've never noticed anything wrong about it.

But I do agree with your general point about getting lab tests done. I do wonder why coaches/boards at national & especially domestic level aren't more pro-active about getting private testing done.

Way better to do an internal audit and correct it away from the spotlight than wait to be jumped on by the external auditor. As well as just the 15 degrees they could pick up other ways to increase speed or improve the action too.
 
I don’t think Shaheen’s action is illegal.

With that being said, PCB should run private test on him and please keep that away from the media. If he does have a bend, correct it and fix it without anyone knowing.
Although, if they do find a suspicious action, I can almost guarantee it will be leaked to the media.
 
A lot of top bowlers today will get banned if tested with the current rule in place, let’s just leave it at that.
 
I don't think Shaheen has illegal action. It might be the wrist movement which can create doubt in some people's mind.

What I've noticed that Shaheen bends his wrist forward when he balls short pitch. Unlike straight wrist-palm, he keeps during other deliveries.
But it's not elbow which he bends.

Correct me if bending wrist is also illegal.
 
Nothing wrong with it.

Nobody else has questioned it as far as I know.
 
One thing I have noticed is Shaheen is bowling at lower pace since Hasnain was called for chucking. In T20 world cup he was looking rapid.
 
Rajdeep said:
One thing I have noticed is Shaheen is bowling at lower pace since Hasnain was called for chucking. In T20 world cup he was looking rapid.
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Wonder if that is to do with the format of the game,maybe?
 
Rajdeep said:
One thing I have noticed is Shaheen is bowling at lower pace since Hasnain was called for chucking. In T20 world cup he was looking rapid.
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Everyone bowls faster in T20s. And by your logic he’s bowling slower because he doesn’t want to be called. Yet in the match that this thread has been created, he is bowling slower so if there was any time he wouldn’t have doubt cast on him would be now
 
MenInG said:
Wonder if that is to do with the format of the game,maybe?
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In PSL too he was not that brisk. In world cup he was bowling 150+ consistently. Maybe bcoz it was world event and he was extra motivated. I personally dont see anything wrong in Shaheen's action but I have never seen hin bowling as quick before or after as he did in T20 WC.
 
Surely looking into this will be part of roles and responsbilities of bowling coach.

If any questions are raised further externally, then people should ask how is PCB spending it's money and what are coaches doing.
 
Our former players are absolute jokers. They can spit any random thing to get limelight.
 
Rajdeep said:
In PSL too he was not that brisk. In world cup he was bowling 150+ consistently. Maybe bcoz it was world event and he was extra motivated. I personally dont see anything wrong in Shaheen's action but I have never seen hin bowling as quick before or after as he did in T20 WC.
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In t20s Shaheen has always (since coming of age obviously) hovered around 150 mark. You can look at pretty much any t20 series jan 2020 onwards.
Look at his t20 series vs england for eg.
In the last psl, over a year ago, he was seriously fast. Multiple 150 plus deliveries.

What you are insinuating is absolutely rubbish.
His low speeds this series and psl is infact a natural outcome of something everyone has been crying about for ages now : His HUGE workload.

Everyone could see pakistan are running him into the ground. From experts to fans to commentators.
The question was asked even to pcb selectors and head coaches.

Now finally when the effects seem evident, people seem to forget all about it. Incredible!

Watch the team management not give him any rest in white ball series either. I fear a big injury isn't too far away.
 
First Roy and now this guy…

Yep, Shaheen will be banned days before the WT20 in Aus. There’s always something that brings our team down ahead of a major tournament, and what’s better than taking out one of the biggest threats to the big 3?
 
Funny how people are bashing sarfraz here...

Hasnain was also caught right. As far as i remember everyone here said its a legal action and nothing to worry about.
 
PakPremi said:
Sarfraz is notorious for saying things that have no substance, just likes to make controversial statements.
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90percrnt of the time he came out right. Back in the mid 2000s, he used to talk about cricketers fixing and after few months the amir case came up
 
PCB should have him tested to make sure there are no issues and if there are issues then they should be resolved as soon as possible.

I know Shaheen's action is probably clean but we do need to ask ourselves why so many of our bowlers end up with this problem as it can have devastating impact on their careers. Many careers shot down at an early stage like Aqeel Ahmed and Tariq Mahmood because they had similar action to Murali. And then of course there are more well known examples. This is something the PCB needs to take seriously and iron out at youth/domestic level.
 
Major said:
Funny how people are bashing sarfraz here...

Hasnain was also caught right. As far as i remember everyone here said its a legal action and nothing to worry about.
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So you too doubt Shaheen's action....never heard it before
 
I remember [MENTION=2016]Rana[/MENTION] making the same point yesterday. It was during the last 2-3 overs yesterday. It was also at this point where I noticed something just didn't look right from Shaheen. I just hope it was just a moment rather a chronic issue.

He needs to get tested. Like [MENTION=135038]Major[/MENTION] says everyone on here was confident and certain that Hasnain had a clean action. We saw how that turned out.

I actually rate Sarfraz Nawaz for speaking his mind on this. It's getting embarrassing that our players are getting exposed overseas/by overseas players and officials. We need to be responsible for the due diligence of our own players.
 
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SN has a long histroy of giving controversial bombastic statements.
SSA is a fantastic young bowler, i donot see any wrong in action.
This is where PCB should come in, ask him to prove else tell him to take a running jump.
Such statements could undermine a young guy's confidence
 
Sarfraz used to speak against Imran Khan because as I said in my previous post he suffers from inferiority complex.He couldn’t beat Imran mixing with English upper classes and even royalty.Sarfraz had very low social standing.He comes up with controversial and rash statements to seek attention.
 
I will take a contrary position.

After this series, all Pakistani pacers, in fact all Pakistani bowlers including spinners, should undergo action tests at LUMS informally. Without informing anyone (although these things do leak unfortunately.)

In fact, all domestic bowlers too should be mandated to go through LUMS clearance before showing up for the first team. Just like a Yoyo test.

Shaheen's action is unusual and sometimes makes me uncomfortable on replays. I do think it is clean but best to be proactive about it. Particularly as Pakistan is anyway under the scanner more on these kinds of things.
 
Point of release is a Chuck... Thought that when I was watching replay of wicket myself...
 
I do feel he has a chink, especially when he is trying to swing the ball and putting the extra effort in with pace.

Hopefully PCB have done all their ground work and are confident the players are clean.
 
A classic Pakistani trait - criticize your own openly. And score brownie points.
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
ICC should appoint Sarfaraz Nawaz in their testing lab as soon as possible. :inti
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Are we seriously taking Sarfaraz Nawaz's word now? A guy who calls Imran Khan a drug addict, openly spouts conspiracy theories and is the biggest back-biting snake among all the ex-players.

This guy doesn't have a shred of credibility on any matter. Afridi has played infront of the world's best umpires in every format for 4 years now. Does he or any of you think you know better than them?
 
Bhaag Viru Bhaag said:
ICC should appoint Sarfaraz Nawaz in their testing lab as soon as possible. :inti
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Sarfaraz Nawaz probably needs a few appointments at the psychiatrist's office first. Just based on some of the statements he has made on live TV in the last decade.
 
Major said:
Funny how people are bashing sarfraz here...

Hasnain was also caught right. As far as i remember everyone here said its a legal action and nothing to worry about.
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Man this is not about identifying action, the thing is that he could have conveyed the message to PCB directly so that they could Check and work accordingly if required any... There wasn't any need to talk this rubbish in front of the whole world on media and bringing Shaheen's action into limelight, now the whole world will start scrutiny and this I not good... Even if Shaheen's action is fine, he will be under immense pressure psychologically as husnain is already banned
 
Moiz14 said:
Man this is not about identifying action, the thing is that he could have conveyed the message to PCB directly so that they could Check and work accordingly if required any... There wasn't any need to talk this rubbish in front of the whole world on media and bringing Shaheen's action into limelight, now the whole world will start scrutiny and this I not good... Even if Shaheen's action is fine, he will be under immense pressure psychologically as husnain is already banned
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Sarfaraz is a deeply bitter individual. That's like his whole personality. And its not hard to see that this is another attempt to get on TV and get some attention on him, at the expense of someone else which is what he usually does. For the last 5 years his entire schtick was talking about Imran Khan. Now he's trying to find something new to latch on just to stay relevant.
 
Let me be blunt and clear.

Shaheen is playing too much cricket. He is bowling too much. He is struggling to make things happen on these extremely placid tracks, especially when the weight of expectations on him is so much to deliver.

He is tiring physically, and he will start to falter soon under the heat, pressure on the body and the mind to deliver.

For his own sake, and for the sake of his bowling action, he must drop a format.
 
Rana said:
Let me be blunt and clear.

Shaheen is playing too much cricket. He is bowling too much. He is struggling to make things happen on these extremely placid tracks, especially when the weight of expectations on him is so much to deliver.

He is tiring physically, and he will start to falter soon under the heat, pressure on the body and the mind to deliver.

For his own sake, and for the sake of his bowling action, he must drop a format.
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His action is perfectly fine. We wouldn’t take a clown like Sarfraz nawaz seriously.
 
Rana said:
Let me be blunt and clear.

Shaheen is playing too much cricket. He is bowling too much. He is struggling to make things happen on these extremely placid tracks, especially when the weight of expectations on him is so much to deliver.

He is tiring physically, and he will start to falter soon under the heat, pressure on the body and the mind to deliver.

For his own sake, and for the sake of his bowling action, he must drop a format.
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I will say the same thing about Shaheen which I also say about Bumrah and that is to skip Pyjama Leagues and keep themselves fit for real cricket. :inti
 
Please post more video footage of said indiscretions, if possible slow mo would also be helpful.
 
Fenrir said:
Sarfraz Nawaz still has an inferiority personality complex due to his poor background.He was a decent bowler but he has nothing else going for him.He has no personality,poor education and makes rash statements.
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Maliq_Mudasir said:
Our former players are absolute jokers. They can spit any random thing to get limelight.
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YousafTheBeast said:
First Roy and now this guy…

Yep, Shaheen will be banned days before the WT20 in Aus. There’s always something that brings our team down ahead of a major tournament, and what’s better than taking out one of the biggest threats to the big 3?
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ask_analyse_act said:
He is quite poor, not sure how much money did he get from the padosees to say this on air.
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RedwoodOriginal said:
Sarfaraz Nawaz probably needs a few appointments at the psychiatrist's office first. Just based on some of the statements he has made on live TV in the last decade.
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Its ingrained in Pakistani culture to backbite and try kick down those that are having success.
 
CrIc_Mystique said:
SN has a long histroy of giving controversial bombastic statements.
SSA is a fantastic young bowler, i donot see any wrong in action.
This is where PCB should come in, ask him to prove else tell him to take a running jump.
Such statements could undermine a young guy's confidence
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Fenrir said:
Sarfraz Nawaz still has an inferiority personality complex due to his poor background.He was a decent bowler but he has nothing else going for him.He has no personality,poor education and makes rash statements.
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Sarfaraz Nawaz used to be the biggest party boy in the Pakistan side during his playing days. I read in The Unquiet Ones that during the tour of Australia on which he took 9-86, he used to party in nightclubs all night and then turn up to practice in morning, without any sleep in between. He is also the one who probably invented reverse-swing and taught it to Imran, who later perfected it and passed it on to Wasim and Waqar.

Then one day he decided he was a born again Muslim. Suddenly Imran was not a former friend/protege but seemingly the biggest drug addict in the world and all the others were match-fixers. And since then he has never missed the opportunity to sling mud at anyone and everyone he can sling mud at. He has reached the point where he is either senile, bitter, out of his mind or a combination of the three.
 
RedwoodOriginal said:
Sarfaraz Nawaz used to be the biggest party boy in the Pakistan side during his playing days. I read in The Unquiet Ones that during the tour of Australia on which he took 9-86, he used to party in nightclubs all night and then turn up to practice in morning, without any sleep in between. He is also the one who probably invented reverse-swing and taught it to Imran, who later perfected it and passed it on to Wasim and Waqar.

Then one day he decided he was a born again Muslim. Suddenly Imran was not a former friend/protege but seemingly the biggest drug addict in the world and all the others were match-fixers. And since then he has never missed the opportunity to sling mud at anyone and everyone he can sling mud at. He has reached the point where he is either senile, bitter, out of his mind or a combination of the three.
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He is bitter because he did achieved the same fame as Imran.People can say whatever they want to say about Imran but he was not only a cricket he was an international celebrity.In broadsheets(Times if London,The Guardian,Daily Telegraph etc) there used to be articles about Imran being a future PM of Pakistan.I think Sarfraz couldn’t digest this because let’s be fair he will struggle to become a local councillor.
 
Sarfaraz turning against his own bowlers. What to expect of such a terrible person.
 
Typical fools (Sarfraz and all others in this thread) insinuating without any real proof that Shaheen chucks, where is that sure shot proof?

All that those two wicket clips (posted earlier) prove is that he cocks his wrist (remember how many here made fun of Wasim for saying it all the time) and that looks a bit weird. If you look at Asif's action, Abbass and several other bowlers, they do the same sort of wrist play to make the ball swing more than normal. As long as it is just the wrist (not the elbow), I don't see an issue.

Sarfraz was a pain in his playing days and that is why he did not play as many matches as he could have (half of them his own fault when he would suddenly declare himself unfit)...and he has been a bigger pain ever since. If he was proven right on Match Fixing, that does not make him a technical maestro to start questioning someone's action, just like that.
 
Former Test cricketer and Lahore Qalandars' coach Aqib Javed has termed it "immature" to question Shaheen Afridi's bowling action.

The International Cricket Council (ICC) chose Shaheen Afridi as Men's Cricketer of the Year and has established himself firmly as one of the best bowlers across the globe.

While speaking in an interview, Aqib Javed refuted all the doubts regarding Shaheen's bowling action.

"It is useless to doubt his [Shaheen] action. Such an immature statement about his bowling action," Aqib said.

"I remember Jason Roy complaining about his action. It happens in cricket when a bowler gets you out off the first delivery after you score a hundred in the previous match. It was just frustration of getting out, nothing else," he further added.

https://cricketpakistan.com.pk/en/n...it-immature-to-question-shaheen-afridi-action
 
In this series against SA, Afiridi appeared to be chucking a few balls. In the second ODI, those balks didn’t bring him wickets. But today it did.

I am not sure if he was actually chucking or not. But I hope the authorities take necessary action if needed.
 
ChennaiFan said:
In this series against SA, Afiridi appeared to be chucking a few balls. In the second ODI, those balks didn’t bring him wickets. But today it did.

I am not sure if he was actually chucking or not. But I hope the authorities take necessary action if needed.
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If shaheen is a chucker then so is bumrah.
 
Losers who question Bumrah's action would do well to look at that short ball he delivered to Zorzi. If Bumrah is chucking then so was that ball to Zorzi.
 
IMMY69 said:
with Shaheen it is a flick of the wrist and bowls with a straight arm.

With Bumrah, it's the straightening of the arm but apparently all down to hyperextension, although we will never know as he has never been tested...
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Flick of the wrist is good; but some of his deliveries appeared to be delivered with a snap of the forearm - bent elbow and then straightening. Again, only a few appeared like this. I guess something has happened after he was dropped midway through the England series.
 
ChennaiFan said:
Flick of the wrist is good; but some of his deliveries appeared to be delivered with a snap of the forearm - bent elbow and then straightening. Again, only a few appeared like this. I guess something has happened after he was dropped midway through the England series.
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May I suggest you book yourself an appointment at Specsavers
 
This is a very interesting thread and terrific observation by legend that is Sarfraz Nawaz. I had a suspicion on his action during WT20 2021 and even written about it here. However did not pay much attention to it post that as he is a T.Natarajan level bowler now who is not worth the time. But will keep an eye going forward just like I am keeping an eye on any reverse swing by Pak bowlers post Klassen's comments.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Ashwin is the only player in cricket history who has admitted to deliberately chucking.
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It was in Asia cup 2014 to expose chuckers like Sunil Narine, Hazeez and Ajmal. He even copied the action of Narine and wore full sleeves to mimick him. It drew ICCs attention and then they came hard on chuckers. Ashwin was the whistle-blower actually and the reason the art of spin bowling is clean today.
 
Rajdeep said:
It was in Asia cup 2014 to expose chuckers like Sunil Narine, Hazeez and Ajmal. He even copied the action of Narine and wore full sleeves to mimick him. It drew ICCs attention and then they came hard on chuckers. Ashwin was the whistle-blower actually and the reason the art of spin bowling is clean today.
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I may rob a bank tomorrow to expose actual bank robbers.
 
Shaheen Afiridi is one of the good Pakistani bowlers in recent times. So, I understand it is hard for some of the pakistani fans to digest anyone questioning his bowling action. But we have to be sure that we are watching good cricket. If anyone is interested, pay attention to his bowling in the 2nd and 3rd ODIs vs SA.
 
Rajdeep said:
It was in Asia cup 2014 to expose chuckers like Sunil Narine, Hazeez and Ajmal. He even copied the action of Narine and wore full sleeves to mimick him. It drew ICCs attention and then they came hard on chuckers. Ashwin was the whistle-blower actually and the reason the art of spin bowling is clean today.
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Yes, he was making noise about the chuckers, but the authorities were not paying attention. So, he deliberately did it in a match and talked about it to the press. He was brave enough to bell the cats and the cleanup started from there.
 
ChennaiFan said:
Yes, he was making noise about the chuckers, but the authorities were not paying attention. So, he deliberately did it in a match and talked about it to the press. He was brave enough to bell the cats and the cleanup started from there.
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Sounds legit but the irony is off the charts
 
ChennaiFan said:
People say it is hyper extension in Bumrah's case. In any case, I agree he should be tested as well. It is better to come out clean than living in shadow of doubt.
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See I can respect this point of view.
By all means test Shaheen but for gods sakes let's test Bumrah too.

by the way my specsavers comment was just after I saw the highlights on sky and slowed down that bouncer and honestly couldn't see any bend in his arm
 
IMMY69 said:
See I can respect this point of view.
By all means test Shaheen but for gods sakes let's test Bumrah too.

by the way my specsavers comment was just after I saw the highlights on sky and slowed down that bouncer and honestly couldn't see any bend in his arm
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I didn't watch in slow motion. In the second ODI, some of his deliveries appeared as throwing. Luckily he didn't take wickets with those. Again in the third ODI, the pattern repeated. I was not so sure that he was chucking or not as I watched live on TV.
 
IMMY69 said:
See I can respect this point of view.
By all means test Shaheen but for gods sakes let's test Bumrah too.

by the way my specsavers comment was just after I saw the highlights on sky and slowed down that bouncer and honestly couldn't see any bend in his arm
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You are only saying this bcoz you are scared of Bumrah and the prospect of him being the greatest seamer of all time from Asia. So you want to somehow get Bumrah banned and if the price for it is to throw Shaheen under the bus so be it. Don't make it so apparent buddy
 
Rajdeep said:
You are only saying this bcoz you are scared of Bumrah and the prospect of him being the greatest seamer of all time from Asia. So you want to somehow get Bumrah banned and if the price for it is to throw Shaheen under the bus so be it. Don't make it so apparent buddy
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Which is basically what Ashwin did :viru
 
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