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Shadab Khan’s batting position in Limited Over Internationals

Showing his batting talent again. Well done.
 
Rayyman said:
Would not mind him batting at #6 ahead of Imad in ODIs.

Shaddy is better than Iftikhar.

But I am not sold on him in T20Is, he is not good enough.
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Who are you not sold on shadab or ifti? If you are saying ifti then I agree.
 
Shadab definitely showing some potential I reckon he should be replacing the old warhorses in malik and hafeez for wc.

Shadab to bat at no.4 after Haider ali who I think will make a great no.3
 
Shadab Khan's passion reminds me of the Shoaib Akhtar's days. Good for Pakistan cricket
 
Rayyman said:
Shadab is inconsistent but I’ll take him everyday of the week over Cha cha

They are competing for 2nd all rounder spot
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I think it’s the fault of our senior citizen in Shoaib and hafeez who have deprived players to have some batting practice when the match situation isn’t so bad. I’ve been quite impressed with shadab’s hitting and I reckon to play him at 4 or 5 in the wc won’t be bad.

Malik and hafeez i reckon will fail cause they always fail on the big stage and I’m not sold on chachu ifti either so in terms of my replacements I pick Umar Amin, Haider ali and Shadab Khan (however, I want to see Shadab keep up this good work).
 
Hasan123 said:
Performing in the PSL is different to international cricket.
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This doesn’t make sense. If performing in domestic games doesn’t matter how are you going to select players for national side? Just select them from u19s?

In PSL you face some of the best bowlers in the World so if you can perform here consistently you are certainly good enough for Pakistan.
 
IAJ said:
This doesn’t make sense. If performing in domestic games doesn’t matter how are you going to select players for national side? Just select them from u19s?

In PSL you face some of the best bowlers in the World so if you can perform here consistently you are certainly good enough for Pakistan.
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So you can say for certain that Shadab will be scoring comfortably off Starc, Cummins,Bumrah, and Boult?

By all means try Shadab at 4 in international cricket. I am just being cautious.
 
Shadab has a lot of work to do before he can bat in the middle order. This is evident by his ODI strike rate, which is currently under 70. This shows he doesn't have the game to score runs against international calibre bowlers.

Wahab Riaz has also scored a couple of 40+ scores in domestic T20 cricket batting in the middle order, so does that make him good enough to bat up the order for Pakistan's T20I side? Obviously not.
 
Last three games: 54 off 31 batting @ 5 position vs Karachi, 39 off 25 batting @ 4 position vs Quetta, and 52 off 29 batting @ 4 position. I'm eager to see how he does as a 4,5 batsman for the rest of the PSL. Assuming he does well throughout the tournament, then him playing the 4,5 position wouldn't be a bad idea for Pak.
 
This recent surge in his batting is after his stint in BPL and now in PSL he has not played any international cricket much in between so let’s see how he goes in internationals then we’ll be able to say something about T20WC
 
Would be nice to free up one of the middle order slots for him at 4,5 followed by Iftikhar, followed by Imad, and then bring another batsman in at 7/8 who can power hit
 
So far he been brilliant. However the problem with our youngsters is they can't keep their head clear. They go over the moon after 1-2 performances and want to ride on it for the rest of their lives.

Hasan Ali and Shadab have the same problem. So far Shadab been batting freely without any fear of getting out. When they play for pakistan they seem scared of losing their place and go in their shell. I am still not sure he 'll set the world on fire when he plays for pakistan again.
 
Shadab has been extremely elegant batting up the order, i'd go into the World Cup with this team:
Babar (C), Kamran (W), Hafeez, Malik, Shadab, Iftikhar (can change 5/6 with Shadab), Asif (might be good at 7/pinch hitter), Imad, Amir, Shaheen, Rauf. The bench would be Fakhar / Sharjeel, Khushdil, Wahab, Yamin / Hasnain / Tanvir.
 
Definitely an eye opener of a tournament regarding Shadab's batting. I think it would be pretty incredible if Shadab can become a legit all-rounder and basically replace Afridi. Feels like our team is lacking that genuine skill who can be a match winner with the ball and bat since guys like Afridi/Razzaq and Hafeez (in his earlier days).

I'd think at this point, Imad and Shadab will bat over Rizwan especially in late game situations.
 
Thunderbolt14 said:
Would be nice to free up one of the middle order slots for him at 4,5 followed by Iftikhar, followed by Imad, and then bring another batsman in at 7/8 who can power hit
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Yes. Gives us room for a free rider down the bottom

Babar
Sharjeel ( if he keeps improving this tournament- partly because of how he plays bounce)
Kami
Shadab
Iftikhar
Imad
Asif ( the free rider)
Hitting all rounder
Amir
Shaheen
3rd quick
 
Abdullah said:
He has always batted well in test match cricket and is not a player to bat in slog overs where he has normally got his chance in loi
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I am still cautious about how he would do against top international attacks.
 
Can he clear the long boundaries in Australia? Clearing 62m boundaries in Pindi is one thing..
 
Rayyman said:
Would not mind him batting at #6 ahead of Imad in ODIs.

Shaddy is better than Iftikhar.

But I am not sold on him in T20Is, he is not good enough.
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So far in PSL Shahdab has done much better than Uncle Iftikhar & Mohd Rizwan. He should be promoted into the middle order.
 
Irregardless if ISU win or lose tomorrow vs LQ, I hope Shadab continues his little scoring spree he's got going on here.
 
We need Shadab the batsman to help balance the side but more importantly we need his bowling, which looks a shadow of the bowler that came couple of years ago. No doubt he had work to do back then but atm he has no control and even less spin
 
He should concentrate on becoming a batting all-rounder because his bowling has been very poor recently. If he can consolidate his role as an attacking batsman in the middle order, then we can just keep his bowling as a bonus at best or rarely seen backup at worst.
 
He has talent, but when the pressure's on, he just can't bat. He's shown to be a very slow bat in LOI even though he can hit clear 6s at times. I hope he can turn into a decent no.8 bat first, but really shouldn't be batting above that. And if people say he's not a natural hitter and wasted down the order, then perhaps he should be batting even lower so he doesn't bat at all, it's not worth playing him in the position of a proper bat. And given his form with the ball has dropped, rather he just focus on that. Imad's proved a superior bat when it actually matters at 7.
 
Hasan123 said:
So you can say for certain that Shadab will be scoring comfortably off Starc, Cummins,Bumrah, and Boult?

By all means try Shadab at 4 in international cricket. I am just being cautious.
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Whenever Shadab has been given a long time to bat, he has scored,whether it's in test or ODI cricket.
 
Danyaalr01 said:
Whenever Shadab has been given a long time to bat, he has scored,whether it's in test or ODI cricket.
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Yes, I still remember his match-winning 4 (24) against Bangladesh in the Asia Cup when he came to the crease in the 20th over.
 
Mamoon said:
Yes, I still remember his match-winning 4 (24) against Bangladesh in the Asia Cup when he came to the crease in the 20th over.
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So you picked 1 instance. Bradman scored a duck in his last innings, so what's your point.
 
Danyaalr01 said:
So you picked 1 instance. Bradman scored a duck in his last innings, so what's your point.
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My point is that Shadab is a highly overrated player who is not a top/middle-order batsman by any means.
 
Shadab coming in to bat before the proper, specialist hitters isn't helping ISLU much.

Asif and Talat should get a chance to smash the ball because they're much better smashers of the ball.
 
Mamoon said:
My point is that Shadab is a highly overrated player who is not a top/middle-order batsman by any means.
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And he came to bat before Asif.what a selfless person:yuvi.....Guys calm down God forbid if he becomes captain of pak???
 
shamaan said:
So similar to what you get in psl
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Probably. Of course there is some variation between different stadiums but even the big grounds in Oz, for T20 they bring the ropes in closer than they do for TEst or even ODI. People say some BBL grounds look silly because the rope is 20m INSIDE the fence on some boundaries.
 
Damn.

Hitting excellent today. He keeps improving.

Though have to say, he's been served some pies as well, but the hitting ability is 10x better than Imad Wasim's.

Good stuff.
 
Shadab's batting is only a positive for Pakistan, and well done to Islamabad United camp for getting behind this decision.
 
Shadab is basically confirmed for the World T20 now. I would choose Umer Khan as the other spinner.
 
Shadab has been really impressive in the sense that he has hit big as well as rotated strike brilliantly.
 
He’s played well but the 60m sixes here would be caught in the deep in Australia. He’s still no power hitter.
 
Ellipsism said:
He’s played well but the 60m sixes here would be caught in the deep in Australia. He’s still no power hitter.
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He did send a few deep in the crowd today, nobody else have done it, including the foreigners.

Yes, boundaries are short.

And all of it doesn't automatically mean he'll become Rohit Sharma in international cricket.

But he has shown himself to be a reliable batter. Won't be a big hitter in intl cricket, a just a bit better than Imad Wasim.
 
Clearly backs himself more in batting than bowling plus he has already displayed remarkabke technique in tests on tours of SA and ENG
 
Ahmed216 said:
Clearly backs himself more in batting than bowling plus he has already displayed remarkabke technique in tests on tours of SA and ENG
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Averages 20 with the ball in T20s.

Those are legendary bowling figures.
 
Hawkeye said:
He did send a few deep in the crowd today, nobody else have done it, including the foreigners.

Yes, boundaries are short.

And all of it doesn't automatically mean he'll become Rohit Sharma in international cricket.

But he has shown himself to be a reliable batter. Won't be a big hitter in intl cricket, a just a bit better than Imad Wasim.
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I think it all depends on how much he is willing to hard work and improve. He has his basics in place except strike rotation may be against quality bowling
 
Shadab has great hand eye coordination, which is shown in his fielding. In his batting this allows him to pick the ball and react to it quicker, which means he premeditates a lot less.
 
It's worth giving him a go in bilaterals up the order. He has earned a chance.
 
Shadab Khan has really stepped up with the bat and this is great to see . People need to put personal agendas side . The guy can bat , bowl and field well, and captaining as well and he’s young and improving what else do we want !
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brilliant batting from Shadab Khan at PSL 5:<br><br>8 off 7 balls<br>52 off 29 balls<br>39 off 25 balls<br>54* off 31 balls<br>7 off 5 balls<br>77 off 42 balls<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL2020</a> <a href="https://t.co/f4DPCwvTF8">pic.twitter.com/f4DPCwvTF8</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1236243112445513730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2020</a></blockquote>
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Mamoon said:
My point is that Shadab is a highly overrated player who is not a top/middle-order batsman by any means.
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Lol, hitting sixes for fun in PSL and you compare him with Aamir and Riaz. Either this is pure hatred or you know nothing about batting.
 
MenInG said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brilliant batting from Shadab Khan at PSL 5:<br><br>8 off 7 balls<br>52 off 29 balls<br>39 off 25 balls<br>54* off 31 balls<br>7 off 5 balls<br>77 off 42 balls<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL2020?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL2020</a> <a href="https://t.co/f4DPCwvTF8">pic.twitter.com/f4DPCwvTF8</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1236243112445513730?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2020</a></blockquote>
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But but he is a tail-ender, these are fluke innings lol. Every one who understands a bit of batting can see that this guy had potential and can play proper cricketing shots. If he has the right attitude and work ethics that is a other discussion.
 
IAJ said:
Lol, hitting sixes for fun in PSL and you compare him with Aamir and Riaz. Either this is pure hatred or you know nothing about batting.
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Enjoy these false hopes against pathetic PSL bowling and fielding. I have seen all that I need to see regarding Shadab at the international level.
 
IAJ said:
Lol, hitting sixes for fun in PSL and you compare him with Aamir and Riaz. Either this is pure hatred or you know nothing about batting.
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He doesn't like Shadab and has made it very clear. Sort of personal.

IAJ said:
But but he is a tail-ender, these are fluke innings lol. Every one who understands a bit of batting can see that this guy had potential and can play proper cricketing shots. If he has the right attitude and work ethics that is a other discussion.
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Shadab can play cricketing shots, but he has to come up the order and build things from there.

Late order finishing - he struggles to hit the pacers in the last few overs. And it's not exclusive to him, others also struggle, like Imad Wasim.

PAK badly needs a proper finisher who can clobber the pacers right after coming on to the pitch.
 
Mamoon said:
Enjoy these false hopes against pathetic PSL bowling and fielding. I have seen all that I need to see regarding Shadab at the international level.
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He is far better than Asif and Fahim for sure.
 
He's batted well during this PSL. If he can keep this uo during the entirety of the tournament then him as a No.5 or No.6 or even a hitter at No.7 for the T20 World Cup but he needs to keep this up.
 
So a glorified tail-ender at the international level is batting like de Villiers in PSL, and then we are told that PSL has the best bowling among all the leagues.
 
Shadab shouldn't be in the team, he is nothing special. What I have seen of him, he should only be played against us and zimba brothers.
 
Mamoon said:
Enjoy these false hopes against pathetic PSL bowling and fielding. I have seen all that I need to see regarding Shadab at the international level.
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Are you referring to him outperforming both Azhar Ali and Haris Sohail with the bat in his 5 Test matches?
 
The kind of absurd opinions flying around on Shadab's batting and downplaying his performance in this PSL just because of biases and personal likes/dislikes is absolutely ludicrous!

He is the 2nd highest run scorer in this years PSL.
He has the highest average and the highest strike rate for the top 10 run scorers in this years PSL.

He has also played well in test matches against good teams, good attacks in tough conditions when most of our "actual batsmen" have failed . .

I am not saying he has become a great all rounder or whatever. But he has improved, its evident and you have to be delusional to not admit it . .

Criticism is good when its objective and devoid of emotional judgements! I have serious reservations about his bowling which is becoming more and more ineffective! but to read such opinions on his batting is insane . .
 
Junaids said:
Are you referring to him outperforming both Azhar Ali and Haris Sohail with the bat in his 5 Test matches?
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I am referring to Yasir scoring a Test hundred in Australia, when he was supposed to sit out for the superior Shadab.
 
I would bat him one down in T20 WC and give him the license to kill. Kid has all it needs to be a champ and needs to be backed up.

Kami - no other option at the moment
Babar
Shahdab
Haider Ali

Would be my Top 4 for the WC.
 
Mamoon said:
So a glorified tail-ender at the international level is batting like de Villiers in PSL, and then we are told that PSL has the best bowling among all the leagues.
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You have made a habit out of eating humble pies every now and then. Hit the treadmill before the WC so you are ready to be served a few more by Shadab.
 
IAJ said:
Lol, hitting sixes for fun in PSL and you compare him with Aamir and Riaz. Either this is pure hatred or you know nothing about batting.
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And for him pandya is second coming of sobers. He compliments/criticises a player based on which side of the border they are born.
 
NauV said:
The kind of absurd opinions flying around on Shadab's batting and downplaying his performance in this PSL just because of biases and personal likes/dislikes is absolutely ludicrous!

He is the 2nd highest run scorer in this years PSL.
He has the highest average and the highest strike rate for the top 10 run scorers in this years PSL.

He has also played well in test matches against good teams, good attacks in tough conditions when most of our "actual batsmen" have failed . .

I am not saying he has become a great all rounder or whatever. But he has improved, its evident and you have to be delusional to not admit it . .

Criticism is good when its objective and devoid of emotional judgements! I have serious reservations about his bowling which is becoming more and more ineffective! but to read such opinions on his batting is insane . .
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Brilliant post its just that posters dont like it when proven wrong so they have to find new excuses.
So the latest excuse is PSL bowling must be rubbish rather than giving young man credit for improving and being good in all three aspects of the game.
 
Ertugrul_Bey said:
I would bat him one down in T20 WC and give him the license to kill. Kid has all it needs to be a champ and needs to be backed up.

Kami - no other option at the moment
Babar
Shahdab
Haider Ali

Would be my Top 4 for the WC.
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A few things dude, props to Shadab for having the courage to come up the order and play with confidence. Despite [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] 's incomprehensible negativity, if the lad is scoring as much as he is, he'll atleast be partially effective at International level.

Now, I looked at your batting order and I suggest a few tweaks.

I absolutely don't want to select Kami, as he's WAY past his sell by date in internationals, but he should only he selected if bats at 6. Here me out:

Babar - Anchors the innings
Sharjeel- plays aggressive, so could get out early. Also keeps a left right combo at the top.
Haider - plays aggressive, so could get out early
Shadab- Plays like he did today
Imad- Shores up the innings at a decent strike rate plus keeps the left-right combo
Hafeez - Has to come in and smash
Kami - Has to come in and smash
Amir
Shaheen
Haris/Naseem
Zafar Gohar/Umer Khan

If we can find a good finisher, he would come after Kami, and u then don't play Zafar/Umer. That, I believe is a very balanced team
 
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