Shame on you England! SHAME!

[TalhaSyed]

I wonder how Moeen got the link to begin with lmao I thought Pak's record was meant to make them feel better, then again it must have surprised Root that the Ashes are their acid test

It was me Shaz! I sent the link to Moeen! It was me all along!!

Haha yea I had no idea why Paks abysmal record in Aus was brought up by the usual suspects. Has nothing to do with how England are struggling once again on a series down under after an immense amount of hype and talk.

 

[sully3]

Hate to spoil the party but what is Pakistan's record in Tests in Australia?

Our lot spend millions on PSL and waste plenty of money elsewhere yet can't put up a team that can actually win a Test in Australia.

But how often do Pakistani players tour away to Australia. Once in a decade maybe ? Just not enough experience on Aussie pitches.

To put it in context Pakistans greatest Test match batsman Younus Khan has toured Australia twice for test match series in his 18 years of playing international cricket for Pakistan hes only played 6 test matches in Australia.

That says it all why Pakistan struggle so bad against Australia, Younus played 6 matches there where as an Indian team will play a 5 test match series in Australia every 2/3 years.

 

[sully3]

Can someone tell me why Englands only express bowler Mark Wood isn't in the ashes team?

Mind boggling decision from the selectors

 

[shaz619]

It was me Shaz! I sent the link to Moeen! It was me all along!!

Haha yea I had no idea why Paks abysmal record in Aus was brought up by the usual suspects. Has nothing to do with how England are struggling once again on a series down under after an immense amount of hype and talk.

You must have caught him in Tru Burger lol his weakness, can't help going there even when he's trying to hide from the bear.

True, I expect more from England; it's not heartening to see them surrender every time but I hope they can triumph tomorrow

 

[Robert]

Can someone tell me why Englands only express bowler Mark Wood isn't in the ashes team?

Mind boggling decision from the selectors

Injured. But they could have brought Plunkett. The coach never leaves London, I think.

 

[Pakpak]

The amount of 5-0s that are starting to be handed out to England by Australia are downright embarrassing. Even at their worst they never get humiliated like this in England.

 

[pakistani pride]

Injured. But they could have brought Plunkett. The coach never leaves London, I think.

Plunkett cant bowl 90mph plus in tests. Wood maybe.

All teams struggle IN aus. They are formidable at home. Just look at Asian teams never ever they won a TEST series IN aus.

 

[Mamoon]

He's too inconsistent to be considered their undisputed high impact player because Mo have an equal number of MOM's as him while Root has more then both and his inconsistency is reflected in the A/R ranking he's always switching places with Mo, it's been a while since he did anything special but obviously in these conditions he'd have been very useful but there is enough quality in this England side to win without him, they just need to show more fight and quit being bottlers; in their first innings Overton top scored, that's nothing to do with Stokes! had the others showed up, perhaps they'd have their nose in front right now.

Very few all-rounders in history have consistently delivered in both disciples simultaneously. It is all about impact, and Stokes is the most impactful all-rounder in the world. He makes things happen, that is his quality.

Moeen has been unlucky with the bat in this series and I think a big score is round the corner. However, he will always be irrelevant with the ball in Australia. Stokes has been dearly missed because although he goes for runs, he knows how to take key wickets and the Australian pitches suit him.

 

[Saj]

Looks like this thread inspired them today.

Root will be looking for Shaz if they win

 

[KingKhanWC]

England could still collapse like a pack of cards in the first session.

Root and Mo could get them close and if they do it would be one of the great ashes comebacks.

 

[Saj]

But how often do Pakistani players tour away to Australia. Once in a decade maybe ? Just not enough experience on Aussie pitches.

To put it in context Pakistans greatest Test match batsman Younus Khan has toured Australia twice for test match series in his 18 years of playing international cricket for Pakistan hes only played 6 test matches in Australia.

That says it all why Pakistan struggle so bad against Australia, Younus played 6 matches there where as an Indian team will play a 5 test match series in Australia every 2/3 years.

One player doesn't make a team. Poor excuse to say Pakistan's poor record in Australia is down to YK not playing many matches there.

 

[shaz619]

Root will be looking for Shaz if they win

Not to worry, I've been good friends with Warner ever since he visited Brum back in 2013

 

[shaz619]

England could still collapse like a pack of cards in the first session.

Root and Mo could get them close and if they do it would be one of the great ashes comebacks.

If they can get through the first session without losing more then 1-2 wickets they can pull off a shock win, tough but not impossible.

 

[shaz619]

BT sport coverage is not on the level with sky but man they've been making big strides as far as sports are concerned in general, they've been doing a terrific job with Boxnation as well. It's great that the sky monopoly has a bloody nose but it would be nice to have this Test on FTA, the final day has been set up beautifully and this is the type of excitement which would attract casuals and give the game in England more exposure, can say the same for most elite sports in that regard to be fair.

 

[The_Odd_One]

England look terribly unprepared for the Ashes. Why is Bairstow, their second best batsman, batting so low? Who's idea was it to send Vince at #3?

 

[TalhaSyed]

You must have caught him in Tru Burger lol his weakness, can't help going there even when he's trying to hide from the bear.

True, I expect more from England; it's not heartening to see them surrender every time but I hope they can triumph tomorrow

Alas - after a day of decent cricket normality is restored...

 

[AMSS]

Is there any other team that makes such a show and dance about it devotion to test cricket with so little to show for it?

 

[wrongun]

England look terribly unprepared for the Ashes. Why is Bairstow, their second best batsman, batting so low? Who's idea was it to send Vince at #3?

Jonathan Agnew said Bairstow doesn't want to go up the order, likes being at 7 where he looks great but is under no pressure as it's always the top orders fault & he's only #7 so he can't be blamed. If he goes up the order he feels pressure to score and his game changes/doesn't cope.

Basically made it sounds like Bairstow bottles it & won't stand up & be one of the main men his team needs him to be. Instead their second best bat & a senior player now wants to hide down in the lower order where there are no expectations for him to set up or win games.

And Root will let him stay there. Imagine trying to tell Border or Waugh that you didn't want to take something on, it was too hard... You'd get put straight in no uncertain terms or be on the next plane home stamped never to play again.

 

[shaz619]

Alas - after a day of decent cricket normality is restored...

Don't know whether to laugh or cry....

 

[The_Odd_One]

Jonathan Agnew said Bairstow doesn't want to go up the order, likes being at 7 where he looks great but is under no pressure as it's always the top orders fault & he's only #7 so he can't be blamed. If he goes up the order he feels pressure to score and his game changes/doesn't cope.

Basically made it sounds like Bairstow bottles it & won't stand up & be one of the main men his team needs him to be. Instead their second best bat & a senior player now wants to hide down in the lower order where there are no expectations for him to set up or win games.

And Root will let him stay there. Imagine trying to tell Border or Waugh that you didn't want to take something on, it was too hard... You'd get put straight in no uncertain terms or be on the next plane home stamped never to play again.

Then he should be dropped for his selfishness. A batsman should be able to bat at any position if his team requires it.

Looks like a mentally weak player, gave up way too early even yesterday.

 

[shaz619]

Get paid in the millions, have the world's greatest facilities at Loughborough and an incredible domestic structure. Their set up is extremely professional and every player is looked after, more often then not if you are worthy, management will give you a long rope and back you to come good. Simply, there are ZERO EXCUSES for this PATHETIC showing in Australia.

England lack heart, bottle and mental toughness; these are the fundamental reasons for their shambolic performances down under. At least Australia always go down fighting when they tour England, the series are always very competitive; their players don't always benefit from bucket loads of experience in English conditions and nor are they always technically equipped to survive but despite that, they go down fighting.

England are just too posh to play cricket, never have I seen such a bunch of soft cricketer's before in my life. Shame on you England! SHAME!

Not sure why Pakistan has come into this. Firstly, their domestic set up is no where near as sophisticated as the one in England, nor are their players as well paid as the posh / soft English lot and the set up in general lacks professionalism it will be a while before they find success in AUS but despite the obstacles Pakistan will always punch above its weight. Anyhow the Ashes are meant to be the World Cup for England not Pakistan who tend to be measured by their feats against India. Also, England travel to AUS more frequently then Pak whilst the wickets there are not as alien to them as the ones in the subcontinent, AUS is as a big a test for Pakistan as much as the subcontinent is for the likes of AUS / Eng.

So lets get this out the way, England have not beaten Pakistan in a Test series home / away for 7 years! England were more recently destroyed by the Indians as well, AUS were destroyed by the Sri Lankans and the Pakistani's in 2014. Sure asian teams like Pak have struggled down under but this does put things into perspective.

It's quite pathetic, really. Despite all the resources, they have not had one period where they've dominated world cricket. Their culture breeds a bunch of a softies and their media a bunch of Desi Aunties ready to mourn at any given second. One loss to them is equivalent to a sign for doomsday, there's no coming back from it.

Surprised no one has bumped this thread, all these posts still apply. But this time, DOUBLE TRIPLE SHAME on you England!

 

[UN talkz]

Shame x300

 

[shaz619]

Root will be looking for Shaz if they win

The entire nation is looking for the England team right now mate

But they're no where to be found

 

[shaz619]

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