Shikhar Dhawan: Performance Watch

[Saurav]

He will fail in SA.

anyone will unless hes super good.atleast hes doing well here unlike Viru n Gauti

 

[Aman]

He will fail in SA.

Like 99% of other batsmen lol

 

[khalil1986]

No rutherford is.... 170 odd against a better attack...

He has a lot more potential and it was an excellent knock even if it was an extremely flat pitch also.

 

[Aman]

Whoa!!!
Century on debut that being the fastest of all time

That's why people say to experiment with youngsters, if we had continued with Sehwag he would have again got out after scoring a 30. Now we have found 2 decent openers apart from Sehwag n Gambhir, good signs.... New openers/ Kohli/ Pujara... if we can find 1 more young batsman to replace Sachin our TEST batting line up will be back to Fab 4 days

Fab 4 were great outside of India, I wouldn't jump to conclusions till they've actually played a series outside India.

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Re: Is Shikar Dhawan The Next Tendulkar?

Rutherford who?

England are nobodies....

A slaughter of a mighty Australia attack is a whole new level!!

 

[BaaliSoda]

No rutherford is.... 170 odd against a better attack...

Even that 170 came on a super flat road, don't forget that

 

[Bhaijaan]

Tom Moody ✔ @TomMoodyCricket
Congratulations / Badhai ho Shikhar Dhawan what an innings! Hold onto this form for the @SunRisers #IndvsAus

Nice touch there from Moody.

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

troll post

 

[Aman]

Even that 170 came on a super flat road, don't forget that

I'm just messing around with people who start labeling players after 1 game.

 

[Saurav]

lol stop trolling us Khan bhai

 

[AamchiMumbaikar]

^ I am just wishing Kiwi...

 

[Lethalweapon]

I will NEVER write off a leftie in SA.

 

[BaaliSoda]

I'm just messing around with people who start labeling players after 1 game.

Understood mate! I too was just having some fun

It is too early to predict the future of these new age batters, only time will tell.

 

[amlafan79]

Not world class as many suggested lol

if anything dhawan's inning today reminded me of jamshed..
specially some off side strokes
dhawan has good back foot game though but im sure he is equally bad against swing

 

[BaaliSoda]

Mr Khan Ji's yesterday Jinx(Troll) post worked to a certain extent (OZ Tail starts at No 5 Thread) hence he want to try some more of his luck by creating this thread, i guess

 

[Hitman]

troll post

Anyone with a brain can figure it out.

 

[Lethalweapon]

Fab 4 were great outside of India, I wouldn't jump to conclusions till they've actually played a series outside India.

A certain Ganguly outbatted his teammates few times in SA, . Saffers have a tradition of gifting lefties a foundation in their careers, :Gayle,hughes, north,Taufeeq umar,Gambhir have done well there. how good test batsman are these? Don't they get bashed by their own fans ,maybe barring Gayle.

 

[justarslan]

Great debut knock from young lad. Is Viru injured or dropped?

 

[Saurav]

I will NEVER write off a leftie in SA.

n thats because?

 

[ahmed778]

Like 99% of other batsmen lol

Fab 4 were great outside of India, I wouldn't jump to conclusions till they've actually played a series outside India.

Asad Shafiq didn't fail even though he was Young and inexperienced about SA Conditions.
Let's see what the Mighty Talented Young Indian Batsmen do in SA.
And saying that 90% do fail is not excuse to not perform a Pakistani Batsmen on his debut tour to SA performed i can't see what excuse can the Indian Batsmen put up.

 

[Aman]

Asad Shafiq didn't fail even though he was Young and inexperienced about SA Conditions.
Let's see what the Mighty Talented Young Indian Batsmen do in SA.
And saying that 90% do fail is not excuse to not perform a Pakistani Batsmen on his debut tour to SA performed i can't see what excuse can the Indian Batsmen put up.

It's not an excuse for pakistan... Most teams have struggled on SA pitches of late NZ, Aus and SL (despite both teams winning games) have failed as well on the most part. The only batting line up I can seeing any hope in SA is the English.

 

[cricketindiafan]

Great knock but much tougher tests await.

Also the Aussies were caught unawares by his onslaught, perhaps didn't plan much for him. Aggressive field set by Clarke also helped. Dhoni and many other captains would have put boundary riders right after first 3-4 4s.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Re: Sikhar Dawan

Asad Shafiq didn't fail even though he was Young and inexperienced about SA Conditions.
Let's see what the Mighty Talented Young Indian Batsmen do in SA.
And saying that 90% do fail is not excuse to not perform a Pakistani Batsmen on his debut tour to SA performed i can't see what excuse can the Indian Batsmen put up.

what is the avg of Shafiq in SA?

 

[kungfu90]

Anyway whats special about . He is ordinary batsman who scored runs on flat pitches in draws.

 

[adwords]

i like his moustache
"mucche ho to natthulal jaisi ho warna na ho" :amitabh

 

[sticky_wkt]

well done!

 

[ahmed778]

what is the avg of Shafiq in SA?

33.1, 1 Ton and 1 Half Century, Just Like Tendulkar who scored 1 Ton and 1 Half Century on his first Tour of SA and averaged 33.6 Too.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Re: Sikhar Dawan

34, 1 Ton and 1 Half Century, Just Like Tendulkar who scored 1 Ton and 1 Half Century on his first Tour of SA and averaged 34 Too.

LOL.Comparing a no body like Shafiq to Tendulkar?

Before that series Tendulkar had scored Tons in England and Australia.

Shafiq is not even fit to tie Tendulkar's shoelaces.

Shafiq is an avg batsman at best.

 

[BaaliSoda]

@cricketjoshila - Asad's stats in SA

3 test 199 runs aggregate best of 111 Avg 33.16

 

[ahmed778]

LOL.Comparing a no body like Shafiq to Tendulkar?

Before that series Tendulkar had scored Tons in England and Australia.

Shafiq is not even fit to tie Tendulkar's shoelaces.

Shafiq is an avg batsman at best.

Yes my point exactly.
Shafiq being an average Batsmen and being less experienced while playing in SA for the first time still had Stats as good as Tendulkar against a much better bowling attack than the one Tendulkar faced.

 

[Sandeep]

LOL.Comparing a no body like Shafiq to Tendulkar?

Before that series Tendulkar had scored Tons in England and Australia.

Shafiq is not even fit to tie Tendulkar's shoelaces.

Shafiq is an avg batsman at best.

Going OTT... He's not comparing, and he knows Shafiq's not so good as well.. 'Even Sachin didn't do anything special' was his point

 

[KPfan]

34, 1 Ton and 1 Half Century, Just Like Tendulkar who scored 1 Ton and 1 Half Century on his first Tour of SA and averaged 34 Too.

Sachin averaged 38.47, not 33.6

Asad averaged 33.16 not 34

Don't know from where you got the stats...


Also Sachin was a kid of 18 years of age...Asad on his debut in SA was almost 10 years older (27)...little unfair there...

 

[Gunner85]

Not world class as many suggested lol

Jamshed is the best young pakistani batsman out there.He is much better than shafiq.

 

[Sandeep]

Sachin averaged 38.47, not 33.6

Asad averaged 33.16 not 34

Don't know from where you got the stats...


Also Sachin was a kid of 18 years of age...Asad on his debut in SA was almost 10 years older (27)...little unfair there...

But difference in quality will bring them to the same scale!

 

[Leeon1994]

Another FTB in the making, Congrats

 

[Lethalweapon]

n thats because?

A certain Ganguly outbatted his teammates few times in SA, . Saffers have a tradition of gifting lefties a foundation in their careers, :Gayle,hughes, north,Taufeeq umar,Gambhir have done well there. how good test batsman are these? Don't they get bashed by their own fans ,maybe barring Gayle.

That's the answer.

 

[young guns]

Another FTB in the making, Congrats

hope he will get a coveted psl contract

 

[ahmed778]

Sachin averaged 38.47, not 33.6

Asad averaged 33.16 not 34

Don't know from where you got the stats...


Also Sachin was a kid of 18 years of age...Asad on his debut in SA was almost 10 years older (27)...little unfair there...

Not surprised to see people make up fake stats when defending their Hero.
Actually sorry i was Wrong,
Sachin Averaged only 25 on his debut Tour with 1 Ton. High Score of 111.

And he had almost 4 years of international experience when he played there he had already played on the Bouncy pitches of Australia as well.
Shafiq was less experienced than Sahcin played a better Attack than Sachin and also Had better Stats than Sahcin on his Debut Tour.

 

[Sandeep]

Another FTB in the making, Congrats

Always pleasure to have FTBs... When they score, they give you sheer joy!

 

[Lethalweapon]

Yes my point exactly.
Shafiq being an average Batsmen and being less experienced while playing in SA for the first time still had Stats as good as Tendulkar against a much better bowling attack than the one Tendulkar faced.

What is the basis of this assumption that the current attack is better? Being No. 1, Is it? they were a lot of allrounders in 1992 and taht attack was much faster than the current one.
Also,You conviniently forgot the Asia like pitch in that 2nd test ?

 

[Lethalweapon]

Not surprised to see people make up fake stats when defending their Hero.
Actually sorry i was Wrong,
Sachin Averaged only 25 on his debut Tour with 1 Ton. High Score of 111.

And he had almost 4 years of international experience when he played there he had already played on the Bouncy pitches of Australia as well.
Shafiq was less experienced than Sahcin played a better Attack than Sachin and also Had better Stats than Sahcin on his Debut Tour.

WRONG.Why leave out that test in 1993 ?
Get your facts right. there were 4 tests in that tour. Your stats are flawed.

 

[kungfu90]

Not surprised to see people make up fake stats when defending their Hero.
Actually sorry i was Wrong,
Sachin Averaged only 25 on his debut Tour with 1 Ton. High Score of 111.

And he had almost 4 years of international experience when he played there he had already played on the Bouncy pitches of Australia as well.
Shafiq was less experienced than Sahcin played a better Attack than Sachin and also Had better Stats than Sahcin on his Debut Tour.

Tofeeq Umar, Gambhir > Sachin, Shafiq and all. Based on their first SA tour.

 

[Amjid Javed]

I remember watching him demolish bowler after bowler during an under 19 world cup any years ago and thought the kid had some talent but between then and now his career just seem to stall. good to see him score so well on debut.

 

[KPfan]

Not surprised to see people make up fake stats when defending their Hero.
Actually sorry i was Wrong,
Sachin Averaged only 25 on his debut Tour with 1 Ton. High Score of 111.

And he had almost 4 years of international experience when he played there he had already played on the Bouncy pitches of Australia as well.
Shafiq was less experienced than Sahcin played a better Attack than Sachin and also Had better Stats than Sahcin on his Debut Tour.

My bad. Prolly looked at some other series stats. Wasn't the first one to make an error though and not the last one as pointed out by Lethalweapon.

 

[ahmed778]

What is the basis of this assumption that the current attack is better? Being No. 1, Is it? they were a lot of allrounders in 1992 and taht attack was much faster than the current one.
Also,You conviniently forgot the Asia like pitch in that 2nd test ?

Speed isn't everything it does not mean that 1 Bowling attack is better than the other.
This Attack of Steyn,Philander and Morkel is better than the Attack of Donald,McMillan and Mathews any way you look at it.
Oh really?
I don't think you quite know what an Asia Like pitch is i reccommend you turn on your T.V and watch the India vs Australia Match to see what an Asia Like pitch is.

 

[ahmed778]

My bad. Prolly looked at some other series stats. Wasn't the first one to make an error though.

Yes sorry i guess i misread the stats the first time.

 

[Saurav]

That's the answer.

I can give list of righties doing well there too

 

[ahmed778]

WRONG.Why leave out that test in 1993 ?
Get your facts right. there were 4 tests in that tour. Your stats are flawed.

Not my stats, Cricinfo's.

 

[Lethalweapon]

Speed isn't everything it does not mean that 1 Bowling attack is better than the other.
This Attack of Steyn,Philander and Morkel is better than the Attack of Donald,McMillan and Mathews any way you look at it.
Oh really?
I don't think you quite know what an Asia Like pitch is i reccommend you turn on your T.V and watch the India vs Australia Match to see what an Asia Like pitch is.

There were more bowlers in 1992, why miss them? Ever heard Brian Schultz?
your opinion will not make the current attack better.
That was a slow pitch . the current pitch is not slow , it is flat with bounce which is aiding the batters.

 

[Lethalweapon]

Not my stats, Cricinfo's.

You present 4 tests as 3. Your stats are fake. It was 1992-93 tour , you only showed 1992.

 

[Lethalweapon]

I can give list of righties doing well there too

LOL. Lefties list is a LOT bigger.

 

[Lethalweapon]

My bad. Prolly looked at some other series stats. Wasn't the first one to make an error though and not the last one as pointed out by Lethalweapon.

Can't you see ? [B]there were 4 tests in that tour.[/B]

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=326;type=series

check this , real stats.
SRT avg. is 33.66 not 25.

 

[ahmed778]

There were more bowlers in 1992, why miss them? Ever heard Brian Schultz?
your opinion will not make the current attack better.
That was a slow pitch . the current pitch is not slow , it is flat with bounce which is aiding the batters.

You forgot to mention the amount of seam and swing that Steyn and Philander were getting.
No i haven't heard of Brian Schultz there is no one named Brian Schultz his name is Brett Schultz not Brian Schultz and he didn't play in the matches in which Tendulkar got runs.

 

[Lethalweapon]

Not my stats, Cricinfo's.

1.You presented them wrongly.
2. Don't think SRT is KPfan's 'hero' who will bring fake stats , like you said.

 

[ahmed778]

You present 4 tests as 3. Your stats are fake. It was 1992-93 tour , you only showed 1992.

How can i fake the stats?


Go to Cricinfo open SRT's page and check his series by series records and the First series consists of 3 Tests according to Cricinfo not me.
And even if we do Include that match his average was 33 as good as Shafiq but he played a much easier attack than the one Shafiq played.

 

[Sandeep]

Back to the topic, Can Dhawan get to 200 by stumps??!!

 

[Amjid Javed]

dhiwan reminds me of a young ganguly. on asian tracks in shorter version of game he will take attacks apart for fun. when balls seaming around he may struggle!

seems this maybe true!

 

[ahmed778]

1.You presented them wrongly.
2. Don't think SRT is KPfan's 'hero' who will bring fake stats , like you said.

He did bring Fake stats, he said he averaged 38.
Even if we include that match he averaged 33.

 

[talha3]

India looks to have unearthed another potential world class batsman. If only we could trade one of them with one of our bowlers.

 

[Garuda]

^^ Love the burning effect

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Haven't watched it BUT sounds like an impressive knock, to score that much that quickly on your debut takes some doing

 

[Lethalweapon]

You forgot to mention the amount of seam and swing that Steyn and Philander were getting.
No i haven't heard of Brian Schultz there is no one named Brian Schultz his name is Brett Schultz not Brian Schultz and he didn't play in the matches in which Tendulkar got runs.

Yeah, I recalled another innings from Amre while mentioning Schultz.
I have seen those innings in 1992 (on video). It is your opinion , if you consider the current attack better.

 

[Sandeep]

India looks to have unearthed another potential world class batsman. If only we could trade one of them with one of our bowlers.

Maynot be World Class, but will put bad bowling in it's place

 

[Lethalweapon]

He did bring Fake stats, he said he averaged 38.
Even if we include that match he averaged 33.

Yup. That makes them similar.

Infact, forget the ton, Asad Shafiq's 50 in 1st test gives me hope for the tour.

 

[MR__KHAN__JI]

Anyway whats special about . He is ordinary batsman who scored runs on flat pitches in draws.

Is Dhawan not heading into the same league?

 

[Wasim_Waqar]

I've campaigned for this guy to be in for a long time. Ever since I saw him in 2006. Loving this knock.

 

[Lara400]

I might just create another thread on the lad, theres about fifty out there already!!

 

[KPfan]

lol, cut the stats fight you too..

 

[Saurav]

LOL. Lefties list is a LOT bigger.

maybe,but thats past.now they have Philander n Morkel who are great to lefties

 

[ahmed778]

Yeah, I recalled another innings from Amre while mentioning Schultz.
I have seen those innings in 1992 (on video). It is your opinion , if you consider the current attack better.

TBH, i know Tendulkar is a legend, but the SA Attack that Shafiq played is far superior to the one Tendulkar faced any way you look at it.
And i am not saying that that attack was bad just that the one Shafiq played was far superior.
Philander,Steyn and Morkel will go down as one of the best Fast Bowling attacks if they keep on performing like this.

 

[Scrolln]

TBH, i know Tendulkar is a legend, but the SA Attack that Shafiq played is far superior to the one Tendulkar faced any way you look at it.
And i am not saying that that attack was bad just that the one Shafiq played was far superior.
Philander,Steyn and Morkel will go down as one of the best Fast Bowling attacks if they keep on performing like this.

I wouldn't be so sure, i think the best batsman of the 1992-1993 tour averaged something around 45 (Jonty Rhodes) , and most of the batsmen had SR of between 25-40. It was extremely difficult for even SA batsmen to score runs on those pitches despite having to face gentle Indian trundlers. Its difficult to compare between eras..

 

[Scrolln]

Back to topic - Shikhar Dhawan looks damn good! I'm looking forward to his batting in SA. If he can manage an average of 30+ there, we might have a potential long term opener on our hands!

 

[IamIndian]

And from Dale Steyn.. my favorite cricketer

Dale Steyn ✔ @DaleSteyn62
I hear Shikhar is smoking it! So happy for him! U go my friend!!! #welldeserved

 

[H2O1]

Whoa!!!
Century on debut that being the fastest of all time

That's why people say to experiment with youngsters, if we had continued with Sehwag he would have again got out after scoring a 30. Now we have found 2 decent openers apart from Sehwag n Gambhir, good signs.... New openers/ Kohli/ Pujara... if we can find 1 more young batsman to replace Sachin our TEST batting line up will be back to Fab 4 days

I would like to see these batsman outside India that's very important thing.

 

[Lethalweapon]

seems this maybe true!

Ganguly was very good from 1996 - 2000 both home and away. Surprising to see the statement that he struggled away . That was after he became captain.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

And from Dale Steyn.. my favorite cricketer

Dale Steyn ✔ @DaleSteyn62
I hear Shikhar is smoking it! So happy for him! U go my friend!!! #welldeserved

One good thing I like about IPL.

 

[Bouncer]

Would someone like Shikhar Dhawan ever Impress Misbah and get to Open for Pak?

Guy has scored fastest debut 100 - But if he was Pakistani, would he ever have been able to impress Misbah and gotten a chance to play for Pak?

 

[Lethalweapon]

I would like to see these batsman outside India that's very important thing.

Agree, the FAB 4 or whatever played a LOT of away tests early in their career. Had difficult tours early, that benefitted them in the long term.. That also includes Sehwag to a lesser extent.

 

[IgnitedMind]

Wow....just got up and I am shocked....

Got to catch the highlights...

but this guy has been talented...i remember seeing him in U19 WC ...

 

[Kianig89]

The difference is our these types of debutant have a very short product life cycle ala Nazir......hameed lets see how along can Dhawan carry on @ Test Level...last time he played the ODi's vs WI was a flop