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Should Ahmed Shehzad and Kamran Akmal open in the limited-overs series vs West Indies?

This is what will probably happen

Kami gets beaten

Kami tries to pull

Kami cuts straight to point

Kami walks off looking like he is about to cry
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
This is what will probably happen

Kami gets beaten

Kami tries to pull

Kami cuts straight to point

Kami walks off looking like he is about to cry
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We're all too familiar with it. On the other end shehzad will be on 2 (13) and then try to slog one but mistime it only to be taken by mid off.
 
yes, Fakhar too.
if Kamran fails for 2-3 consecutive matches then Fakhar should get a chance.
 
Square Drive said:
Don't think many can complain now. :kp

Should they be brought back?
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Ahmed Shehzad I am ok with as long as his partner is someone more aggressive.

Kami definitely not ok. Inzi needs to make a stand that Kami will never be selected in Pak team while he is chief selector. Nobody after the convicted trio, has hurt Pakistan cricket more than Kami.
 
srh said:
Ahmed Shehzad I am ok with as long as his partner is someone more aggressive.

Kami definitely not ok. Inzi needs to make a stand that Kami will never be selected in Pak team while he is chief selector. Nobody after the convicted trio, has hurt Pakistan cricket more than Kami.
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As long as Kami never keeps wickets again I am ok. He has always been an okay batsman. It's his wicket keeping that has hurt Pak cricket a lot.
 
I'll never pick KAkmal again. It's his bad luck that he is over 35 now - but, that's life, you have to make it count at right time. He was given enough chances when age was at his side.

I'll open with Ahmed & Talat. One reason is the left-right combination; but the main reason is the potential of the pair - it can serve PAK for a decade. It could have been Babar & Talat as well, but there is no one better at 3. Also, Babar is a type of player who takes few overs to get going - he would have been perfect for opening in 90s & 2000s; but now, I think No. 3 is his best place.

One has to see what it needs to be seen in a batsman - that's beyond experience or age. If you are good enough, you are old enough. By the way - I'll not pick Fakhar, his game won't work in International. Had Imad not been there, may be he could have made a case as batting all-rounder; but don't see him succeeding as a top order batsman.
 
ODI:
Shehzad with Fakhar, Imran Butt should be considered as a backup.

T20:
Shehzad with Fakhar/Kamran, if openers are failing then Babar should be tried.

Test side:
Azhar with Sami/Imam/Fakhar
 
MMHS said:
I'll never pick KAkmal again. It's his bad luck that he is over 35 now - but, that's life, you have to make it count at right time. He was given enough chances when age was at his side.
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this does not matter in real life. Hafeez and Malik made comebacks in their mid-30s. Misbah is still in the squad after horrible performances and board loves him chairman wants him till 2018.
Make of that what you will.
 
Kamran should have been utilized as a specialist batsman long ago. He is a confidence player and poor keeping has negatively impacted his batting. It is no coincidence that his best batting performances have always coincided with his best keeping performances. In 2004-2005, he was great on both fronts, but the wheels came off between 2006 and 2008 where he struggled with both the gloves and the bat.

In 2009, he had a mini resurgence with the gloves and he was the highest scorer for Pakistan in all three formats. However, then Sydney happened early in 2010 and he hasn't recovered since. He is currently in peak form as a batsman and we should capitalize on it. He has had a great domestic season and people said that he will fail in the PSL because of the extra pressure, but he responded by ending up as the leading run scorer. He must be rewarded by Inzi The Revolutionary with a place in the ODI and T20 squads for the Caribbean tour.
 
Anyone is an upgrade on Azhar. Guy played a freakin maiden first over against Ireland. :facepalm:
 
But Sarfraz don't like backup keepers in squad. In one of his recent interviews, he clearly said that he does not like a backup keeper in shape of Rizwan in the squad.
 
No on Shehzad, I still think he needs to improve his strike rotation and I still can't take him seriously as a player.

Kamran perhaps, depending on if Sharjeel is available or not.

Also I like Azhar, but he needs to strictly play in Tests.
 
Shehzad will be back. Kamran should definitely be in the t20 side. Unsure about odis yet.
 
Never been a big fan of Akmal, mainly due to his keeping, but I don't know how can we deny him from making a come back, as batsman in LOC, if not as as wk/batsman. Yes he is 35, but not 43.

He has done everything humanly possible to earn a comeback.
 
cricketerB94 said:
But Sarfraz don't like backup keepers in squad. In one of his recent interviews, he clearly said that he does not like a backup keeper in shape of Rizwan in the squad.
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Kamran has openly said that he will play as a batsman
 
moghul said:
Never been a big fan of Akmal, mainly due to his keeping, but I don't know how can we deny him from making a come back, as batsman in LOC, if not as as wk/batsman. Yes he is 35, but not 43.

He has done everything humanly possible to earn a comeback.
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aFTER THE 100 HE HAS BOOKED THE TICKET TO WI

at least in the t20 maybe in the test side as well.
 
Kamran has failed in 3 out of 10 matches so far, which also shows why he averages 26 after hundreds of international games. Move on from him. Though, as I said, this 100 will haunt us.
 
I just do not trust Shehzad. I have supported him in the past but I do not see him doing well regularly against better bowlers. He will have strike rotation issues again.

Kamran? He has a 40% succes ratio. I don't know what else to say as we do not have many alternatives.
 
cricketerB94 said:
But Sarfraz don't like backup keepers in squad. In one of his recent interviews, he clearly said that he does not like a backup keeper in shape of Rizwan in the squad.
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Where was this interview? Do you have a link for it?
 
Big no to both of them. Are we still stuck in 2011 ?

Shehzad still has strike rotation issues. His feet are so static at the crease making him vulnerable to seam or swing.

And we've been through this routine with Kamran before. In his last ODI and T20I stints that followed a good domestic run, he averaged 16 and 14 respectively ! He'll be inevitably exposed by international class attacks.

We should invest in younger batsmen like Shahzaib Hasan, Khushdil Shah and Hussain Talat instead of recycling has beens - or in Shehzad and Kamran's case a never was.
 
Guys, Azhar has not retired from ODIs. There is space for one opener which should and will be Shehzad.

I think Kamran will get a chance in tests and T20s.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Guys, Azhar has not retired from ODIs. There is space for one opener which should and will be Shehzad.

I think Kamran will get a chance in tests and T20s.
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Azhar's position in the team is very weak without the armband. He is hanging by a thread, don't see him lasting more than a series.
 
Akmal, maybe, Shehzad, no. Shehzad's batting style is still the same, while it might fire a couple of times, it's not gonna consistently enough.
 
The_Odd_One said:
Guys, Azhar has not retired from ODIs. There is space for one opener which should and will be Shehzad.

I think Kamran will get a chance in tests and T20s.
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Sami Aslam has got the opening position covered.

No need for Kami.
 
Kami failed throughout the tournament folks. Dont think he has more than 2 innings of note to show. And he is 35.
 
Mamoon said:
Azhar's position in the team is very weak without the armband. He is hanging by a thread, don't see him lasting more than a series.
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Azhar might score some runs against WI and that will give him time until CT.
 
Shehzad and Kami will be back and they will flop like no tomorrow because international cricket is several times more competitive than PSL. After a couple of flop series the demands for dropping them grow louder and eventually Inzi will comply.

Fast forward to PSL 2018 and Kami and Shehzad again rule the roost in the tournament and the same fans who were just a few months prior calling for their heads would be drooling over the prospect of these two opening the batting for Pakistan.

Rinse and repeat.


You don't suddenly become a Tendulkar after being a Kami for all of your career.
 
Markhor said:
Big no to both of them. Are we still stuck in 2011 ?

Shehzad still has strike rotation issues. His feet are so static at the crease making him vulnerable to seam or swing.

And we've been through this routine with Kamran before. In his last ODI and T20I stints that followed a good domestic run, he averaged 16 and 14 respectively ! He'll be inevitably exposed by international class attacks.

We should invest in younger batsmen like Shahzaib Hasan, Khushdil Shah and Hussain Talat instead of recycling has beens - or in Shehzad and Kamran's case a never was.
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But sir you spare no opportunity at defending Inzi the revolutionary, and here you yourself don't have any confidence in him that he would opt for the younger lot instead of a 35 year old TTF.
 
Unfair to drop AZHAR as batsman from ODIs straight away after sacking as captain. Since his return to ODIs he always played under pressure as a captain opening batsman. Would like to give him a series or two to see how he is doing without the added pressure of being a captain.

Though both kamran and shehzad scored runs in this league still struggled with their same old weaknesses. Kamran for T20s and ODIs. Shehzad for ODIs only as a backup opener. As we comment about these two, selectors will go with hafeez the all rounder and it wouldn't surprise me at all.
 
What's the hype about fakhar zaman. Honestly, he's played 2 good innings but I don't see anything but slogs over midwicket or long on from him.

Hussain talat looks classy and looks t ease at the crease but too small a sample to judge.
As for Kami, his days are well and truly over. I just don't want to see him in Pak colours again. He's done enough damage.

Shehzad will be okay I guess as Sarfaraz will be the captain.
 
deems said:
What's the hype about fakhar zaman. Honestly, he's played 2 good innings but I don't see anything but slogs over midwicket or long on from him.

Hussain talat looks classy and looks t ease at the crease but too small a sample to judge.
As for Kami, his days are well and truly over. I just don't want to see him in Pak colours again. He's done enough damage.

Shehzad will be okay I guess as Sarfaraz will be the captain.
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Fakhar is not international material.
 
deems said:
What's the hype about fakhar zaman. Honestly, he's played 2 good innings but I don't see anything but slogs over midwicket or long on from him.

Hussain talat looks classy and looks t ease at the crease but too small a sample to judge.
As for Kami, his days are well and truly over. I just don't want to see him in Pak colours again. He's done enough damage.

Shehzad will be okay I guess as Sarfaraz will be the captain.
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novelty factor but we all know his skills level is way less than the likes of Shehzad,Umar Akmla,Kami even Shahzaib could do better. His innings reminded me of Awais Zia.
 
Mamoon said:
Fakhar is not international material.
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did you check his grip of the bat? It was left hand version of Wahab Riaz..how is he going to play the short pitch bowling. some clear technical faults in his technique.
 
You know watching Kamran Akmal he is so naturally gifted almost as if he is gliding the ball rather than hitting it such is his timing but at the same time for a wee guy has immense power, its tragic that he couldnt convert that, he could have been ATG but not to be, what a waste of talent both Ukmals. As well as they Kamran and shezad have been playing I would like to introduce younger players into the side.
 
MRSN said:
did you check his grip of the bat? It was left hand version of Wahab Riaz..how is he going to play the short pitch bowling. some clear technical faults in his technique.
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He also doesn't have the reflexes for fast bowling. A good player of spin and a decent hitter when the ball is in his arc, but that is not good enough to survive international cricket.
 
I have little hope from both of them however I can't think of any names that can do much better than these two. PSL was the opportunity to unearth some new names but apart from Fakhar, others didn't get consistent chances. I would rather still expend on Talat, Shahzaib and Fakhar than these two.
 
Mamoon said:
Fakhar is not international material.
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You said same thing for sharjeel khan as well.. For year you were against shehzad even ur signature said drop shehzad or suffer for another decade and I still remember how you were all in love with Fakhar zaman. You were the one who started boasting about him like 2 yrs ago when no one knew about him and suddenly he is not international material? Should your words be taken seriously ever Or its your fav time pass to jump from boat to boat.
 
todfod 11 said:
You said same thing for sharjeel khan as well.. For year you were against shehzad even ur signature said drop shehzad or suffer for another decade and I still remember how you were all in love with Fakhar zaman. You were the one who started boasting about him like 2 yrs ago when no one knew about him and suddenly he is not international material? Should your words be taken seriously ever Or its your fav time pass to jump from boat to boat.
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Opinions change with time especially in cricket as nothing is sure.

Many people doubted Sharjeel so that's not a sin. But tournaments like these have shown us that Shehzad, Kamran are one of the better ones in our domestic. I still do not like Shehzad for his tuk tuk but I can not deny that he has been consistent lately.

If you do not evaluate your opinion on some player after some time then you are not a fan, but a hater or a blind lover.
 
Prince of Pakistan said:
Opinions change with time especially in cricket as nothing is sure.

Many people doubted Sharjeel so that's not a sin. But tournaments like these have shown us that Shehzad, Kamran are one of the better ones in our domestic. I still do not like Shehzad for his tuk tuk but I can not deny that he has been consistent lately.

If you do not evaluate your opinion on some player after some time then you are not a fan, but a hater or a blind lover.
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Everyone has different opinions I believe.. For me its different I look at a player skills technique and attitude and then back him up.. Simple.. Now how his career graph goes is a different thing but I will back him up because I have believed in him... Just for example whatever I have seen of Hussain talat I feel he is a great player So I will back him up unless and untill he goes out of the equation..
And for shehzad Only thing I can say he has failed on international stage and he will keep on failing even if he scores a century every si gle match in domestic.
 
todfod 11 said:
Everyone has different opinions I believe.. For me its different I look at a player skills technique and attitude and then back him up.. Simple.. Now how his career graph goes is a different thing but I will back him up because I have believed in him... Just for example whatever I have seen of Hussain talat I feel he is a great player So I will back him up unless and untill he goes out of the equation..
And for shehzad Only thing I can say he has failed on international stage and he will keep on failing even if he scores a century every si gle match in domestic.
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I think the same as well. For me Shehzad still will have serious rotation issues against quality bowlers. But when he is one of your better ones in domestic then you cannot ignore him. Hopefully guys like Hussain Talat will over take his performances so the selectors will not be able to ignore him.

But yea if Shehzad avails his opportunity then that's good on him and I will change my opinion about him unlike others who will just wait till he falls so that they can open threads.
 
todfod 11 said:
You said same thing for sharjeel khan as well.. For year you were against shehzad even ur signature said drop shehzad or suffer for another decade and I still remember how you were all in love with Fakhar zaman. You were the one who started boasting about him like 2 yrs ago when no one knew about him and suddenly he is not international material? Should your words be taken seriously ever Or its your fav time pass to jump from boat to boat.
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First of all, I didn't say anything about Fakhar two years ago. In fact, I never had any opportunity to have a good look at his batting before this PSL. You are confusing me with some other poster.

Secondly, nothing is rigid and permanent in cricket. Things change with time, and if your opinion stays constant throughout, then it means that you have an agenda. Shehzad hasn't done well in international cricket so far and he has had several disciplinary issues, but he seems to have turned a corner. Why should he not be rewarded and appreciated, is not possible for him to change? Similarly, Sharjeel showed considerable improvement once Arthur started working with him. However, that is irrelevant now because he is likely to be banned.

As far as the signature is concerned, it wasn't my signature. It was kept by Strike Rate to mock me at a time when Shehzad was going through a mini purple patch in 2013-14, but I was dismissive of him because I could see the problems in his game and I knew that the wheels would come off soon, and they did. He was out of favor within a year and everyone started hating on him.

However, that hate soon reached an irritational level because even when he tried to work on those problems, people continued to diss him and downplayed every good performance of his in domestic cricket, which just shows the narrow-mindedness of most people and how loaded their comments are with agendas.

These days, another poster is using my quote on Yasir as his signature to mock me, because I said a year ago that he doesn't have the skills to do well overseas. After a couple of good games in England on dry pitches with some poor batting to aid him, people thought that my assessment was wrong. However, the NZ and Australia tours validated my point. He is simply unfit and doesn't know how to bowl defensively when the batsmen target him.

Most people just lack long-term vision and don't look at the bigger picture, and once the form an opinion, they refuse to budge from it even things change direction, because as I said, they have agendas and can't look beyond their personal love and hate for a given player.

If you want agenda-filled comments and rigid opinions, then you are free to ignore my posts and not take my views seriously because you won't get either of those things from my comments. I am not here to sell myself. I'm just another poster like you and dozens of others.
 
^ well said above.

Human's thinking evolves with time.. we should be flexible and open minded in our approach in life in general .. same goes for cricket.. opinions shouldn't be rigid.
 
Mamoon said:
First of all, I didn't say anything about Fakhar two years ago. In fact, I never had any opportunity to have a good look at his batting before this PSL. You are confusing me with some other poster.

Secondly, nothing is rigid and permanent in cricket. Things change with time, and if your opinion stays constant throughout, then it means that you have an agenda. Shehzad hasn't done well in international cricket so far and he has had several disciplinary issues, but he seems to have turned a corner. Why should he not be rewarded and appreciated, is not possible for him to change? Similarly, Sharjeel showed considerable improvement once Arthur started working with him. However, that is irrelevant now because he is likely to be banned.

As far as the signature is concerned, it wasn't my signature. It was kept by Strike Rate to mock me at a time when Shehzad was going through a mini purple patch in 2013-14, but I was dismissive of him because I could see the problems in his game and I knew that the wheels would come off soon, and they did. He was out of favor within a year and everyone started hating on him.

However, that hate soon reached an irritational level because even when he tried to work on those problems, people continued to diss him and downplayed every good performance of his in domestic cricket, which just shows the narrow-mindedness of most people and how loaded their comments are with agendas.

These days, another poster is using my quote on Yasir as his signature to mock me, because I said a year ago that he doesn't have the skills to do well overseas. After a couple of good games in England on dry pitches with some poor batting to aid him, people thought that my assessment was wrong. However, the NZ and Australia tours validated my point. He is simply unfit and doesn't know how to bowl defensively when the batsmen target him.

Most people just lack long-term vision and don't look at the bigger picture, and once the form an opinion, they refuse to budge from it even things change direction, because as I said, they have agendas and can't look beyond their personal love and hate for a given player.

If you want agenda-filled comments and rigid opinions, then you are free to ignore my posts and not take my views seriously because you won't get either of those things from my comments. I am not here to sell myself. I'm just another poster like you and dozens of others.
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Exactly as You said look for the long term prospect. So when we already know he will fail then Why go back to him again.. Actually his case is as same as Sami's. Sami had everything but was very rigid with attitude issues. He made inumerous come backs based on his domestic performance but did he get success at international level ?? Answers is NO Maybe he never worked on his game May b he had in his mind that he is a superstar.
Everyone backed him supported him but did he deliver??


Similarly shehzad will never succeed and then people will complain. They will blame the selectors coaches management as they doing it now as well.. People actually do have agendas may some people have agendas against player and similarly some people have agendas against everyone else coach selector ex players chairman and everyone except the player who has failed and failed for years now.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
This is what will probably happen

Kami gets beaten

Kami tries to pull

Kami cuts straight to point

Kami walks off looking like he is about to cry
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Kami begs the Pakistani people to give him "three (more) chances" as an opener.

Some of the Pakistani awaam, who are on full display here in all their glorious delusions, will start a campaign asking for him to be brought back.

The loop continues.
 
Shehzad should definitely be brought back. He's improved quite a bit. Kamran though really needs to retire.

It's funny because some of these same posters were hating on Inzi in the other thread because he keeps giving chances to TTFs.
 
todfod 11 said:
Exactly as You said look for the long term prospect. So when we already know he will fail then Why go back to him again.. Actually his case is as same as Sami's. Sami had everything but was very rigid with attitude issues. He made inumerous come backs based on his domestic performance but did he get success at international level ?? Answers is NO Maybe he never worked on his game May b he had in his mind that he is a superstar.
Everyone backed him supported him but did he deliver??


Similarly shehzad will never succeed and then people will complain. They will blame the selectors coaches management as they doing it now as well.. People actually do have agendas may some people have agendas against player and similarly some people have agendas against everyone else coach selector ex players chairman and everyone except the player who has failed and failed for years now.
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I don't know if he will fail again or not, which is why I willing to see him get another opportunity. I am seeing determination and focus in his game and attitude that wasn't present before, so I want to see how far he can go with it. If you think he will still fail, than that is your opinion, but I want to put him to test.
 
Kami definitely deserves a chance in T20s. He should be played as a pure batsman though, his keeping is terrible.
Shehzad is still the same garbage player he was and still suffers from the same weaknesses which brought about his downfall, don't see any reason why he should be preferred over a younger player. He has been given enough chances and has failed each time.
 
Bilal7 said:
Shehzad should definitely be brought back. He's improved quite a bit. Kamran though really needs to retire.

It's funny because some of these same posters were hating on Inzi in the other thread because he keeps giving chances to TTFs.
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goran said:
Kami definitely deserves a chance in T20s. He should be played as a pure batsman though, his keeping is terrible.
Shehzad is still the same garbage player he was and still suffers from the same weaknesses which brought about his downfall, don't see any reason why he should be preferred over a younger player. He has been given enough chances and has failed each time.
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Two different posters, two completely opposite opinions, whose more knowledgeable? Who stands corrected?

Goran, you win this clearly with all due respect, Kami will likely fail at the international level again but if you've actually watched PSL 17 and still prefer Shehzad to Kami something is definitely wrong here.
 
Babar and Kamran will open in T20Is, whilst Shehzad will partner Azhar in the ODIs.
 
Mamoon said:
I don't know if he will fail again or not, which is why I willing to see him get another opportunity. I am seeing determination and focus in his game and attitude that wasn't present before, so I want to see how far he can go with it. If you think he will still fail, than that is your opinion, but I want to put him to test.
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I will b morevthen happy if he proves me wrong.. in the end we want pakistan to do well.
 
Problem with T20 stats and performances is that it masks deficiencies one is labile to in ODIs.

If at all an Akmal has to open, it CAN be Umar but not Kamran. That too for T20s only. Neither of them is anymore an ODI material. Neither can withstand the sight of remaining overs in excess of number 15.

Ideally it should be Zeeshan Malik and Haris for ODIs.

Hussain Talat should be a regular and be our #6 in ODIs. With Shadab and Imad at #7 & 8.

Shehzad can replace Sami Aslam in Tests.
 
Kamran is determined and focused and has shouted his claim, he needs to be in the squad.

Question is does he know how to field and where? He shouldn't be keeping and if he gets to Keep what will Sarfi do?

Kamran should be opening for sure, ge has clearly worked hard
 
KAkmal should be restricted to t20s.

Shezzy boy and Azhar should open in ODIs. (Back to.old ages with Sharjeel not available)
 
No

It should be:
1. Azhar Ali
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam
4. Mohammad Hafeez
5. Shoaib Malik
6. Sarfraz Ahmed*+
7. Imad Wasim
8. Mohammad Amir
9. Sohail Khan
10. Wahab Riaz
11. Hasan Ali
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12. Ahmed Shehzad
13. Mohammad Rizwan
14. Usama Mir
15. Mohammad Nawaz
 
Eye_Done said:
Sharjeel and Kami should open
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Sharjeel is banned.

Azhar Ali
Ahmed Shehzad
Babar Azam
Sarfraz
Shoaib Malik
Shadab
Nawaz
Imad
Sohail
Aamir
Hasan

Others: Rumman, Asif Zakir, KAkmal, Mohammad Asghar
 
It should be:
1. Kamran Akmal
2. Fakhar Zaman
3. Babar Azam
4. Mohammad Hafeez
5. Shoaib Malik
6. Sarfraz Ahmed*+
7. Imad Wasim
8. Mohammad Amir
9. Shadab Khan
10. Wahab Riaz
11. Hasan Ali
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12. Ahmed Shehzad
13. Mohammad Nawaz
14. Usama Mir
15. Hussain Talat

Not ideal, but I'm keeping things realistic here.
 
It will happen. They might they do well against the windies and fail spectacularly at the CT. we will get new coach who will throw these clowns out for six months. They will excel in domestics and their ineptitude at international level will be forgotten and when recalled yet again they will play well against some mediocre competition and then fail against better teams. And pretty soon five years will go by in a flash with no new talent unearthed or invested in.
 
I know one person who is really excited to see Kamran Akmal return for the umpteenth time.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] you must be jumping with joy at the resurrection of a glorious career that in its prime saw someone average 25 odd.

Now at the twilight if it manages to average 20 odd...

Well what a find for Pakistan.
 
At least they are coming on back of a some very strong performance, unlike Misbah who is included only because SYK likes him.
 
How pathetic. We've lost our only batsman who had some capability to bat in accordance to the modern game. However, to be honest, I really feel like Ahmed Shehzad has worked hard on his game and also on his fitness. Now, not only is trying to avoid dot balls (from what I've seen in the recently concluded PSL) but also, I felt as if he's suddenly more capable of taking singles, running hard and being agile. So, if he can get those singles at the start of the game and not go on a dot ball chase, we might see a brilliant batsman in him.

As for Kamran Akmal, no problems with him playing quick. He rarely plays dots. He's the most suited batsman to the current form of the game, behind Sharjeel. However, his problem is, he rarely gets going - as we've seen in the past. But he's suddenly hit a purple patch and I can predict prosperous years for him ahead.

I'd rather have an out of form Kamran Akmal geting out quick and not playing dots instead of an Azhar Ali, taking the strike, surviving the new ball like its a test match and then getting out for a 35 ball 18. Or even a century of 110 balls. That's too slow and accelerating at the end is simply not good enough.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
I know one person who is really excited to see Kamran Akmal return for the umpteenth time.
[MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] you must be jumping with joy at the resurrection of a glorious career that in its prime saw someone average 25 odd.

Now at the twilight if it manages to average 20 odd...

Well what a find for Pakistan.
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Kamran should have been tried as a specialist opener long time ago, but we are not renowned for thinking out of the box. He has always been a confidence player, started his career with a bang but his batting declined as soon as his keeping got exposed. He had a mini resurgence in 2009 when he kept well and unsurprisingly top scored for Pakistan across all formats, but then Sydney happened.

Nonetheless, he is now going to play as a specialist batsman and will not be carrying the baggage of his poor keeping. He is in great form and it is the right time to capitalize on it. However, the slow Caribbean pitches will test his resolve; he likes a bit of pace and bounce in the wicket, so let's see how he handles it.
 
Kamran and Shehzad could not have chosen a worse series to come back into the team. The WI pitches will play to a score of 250 and that would be a winning score. I don't think Shehzad and Akmal would have SRs above 100 and people would be on their back for that.
 
Mamoon said:
Kamran should have been tried as a specialist opener long time ago, but we are not renowned for thinking out of the box. He has always been a confidence player, started his career with a bang but his batting declined as soon as his keeping got exposed. He had a mini resurgence in 2009 when he kept well and unsurprisingly top scored for Pakistan across all formats, but then Sydney happened.

Nonetheless, he is now going to play as a specialist batsman and will not be carrying the baggage of his poor keeping. He is in great form and it is the right time to capitalize on it. However, the slow Caribbean pitches will test his resolve; he likes a bit of pace and bounce in the wicket, so let's see how he handles it.
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Hilarious how you berate people for using excuses when talking about Amir and him not taking wickets... yet support Kamran and cite that he is a 'confidence player' and his keeping was holding him back.

I could understand if he has played well for us and had the potential to be better, but he is probably one of the worst batsman to ever play consistently for Pakistan, comparable with Afridi with the bat alone except at a considerably lower strike rate. Even Younis Khan has a better record than him. Despite the domestic form, it is silly to expect him at 35 years of age to perform considerably better than he did during his prime. Especially when there appears to be no visible improvement in his technique, strokeplay, fitness, temperament etc.

I know you love going against the popular opinion, but you should at least show consistency in your approach.
 
Neither Kamran or Shehzad would've been selected if it wasn't for Sharjeel and Latif's indiscretions.

The selectors were in a tight spot, but I wouldn't have picked either regardless as we know this story will end once these two face international class attacks.

But doesn't it speak to the atrocious standard of our domestic system that these two highly flawed players look like the second coming of Greenidge and Haynes in our FC and LA tournaments.
 
phoenix363 said:
Hilarious how you berate people for using excuses when talking about Amir and him not taking wickets... yet support Kamran and cite that he is a 'confidence player' and his keeping was holding him back.

I could understand if he has played well for us and had the potential to be better, but he is probably one of the worst batsman to ever play consistently for Pakistan, comparable with Afridi with the bat alone except at a considerably lower strike rate. Even Younis Khan has a better record than him. Despite the domestic form, it is silly to expect him at 35 years of age to perform considerably better than he did during his prime. Especially when there appears to be no visible improvement in his technique, strokeplay, fitness, temperament etc.

I know you love going against the popular opinion, but you should at least show consistency in your approach.
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Kamran is a proven performer who hasn't been consistent; Amir has achieved nothing in his career so far and is overrated at this point. Not interested in stats, Younis might have a higher average in ODIs but no one in his right mind would take Younis over Kamran in ODIs. The latter over the former 10/10 times.
 
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