Should IPL 2021 be Postponed Amid Rising Coronavirus Cases in India?

[naseem]

As I said previously, I think IPL should be postponed because it is not the right time when you look at the situation in India.

If the players feel it is time to leave, they will leave and BCCI will not stand in their way because they understand the situation.

Unfortunately, our fans refuse to understand and let go of their delusional mindset. Their theory that foreign players will risk their lives for $ and BCCI will threaten them and force them to stay has backfired spectacularly just like all other BCCI related theories.

However, our fans will never learn and will keep humiliating themselves only to end up with eggs on their faces.

Nobody here thinks that IPL force the players to play in time of pandemic...

It actually attracts the players to let go of their national duty and that too even before world cup eg A B De Villiers.....
This is again another story not related here...

BCCI would lost face if it forces a player to play it irrespective of situation.... Bcoz one day or the other it may come back 2 bite them......as in today's world nothing is private ...

 

[naseem]

The window is not for IPL but for international cricket.

The IPL window saves international cricket because if there is no IPL window, no international team will be able to play a series during IPL season with its full-strength players, which is it is necessary to have an IPL window.

IPL window to save international cricket..???
R u kidding..???
Window of 3 months to save international cricket...
Anyways hope world cricket don't bow down to this negative demand......

 

[street cricketer]

This is a brilliant post, you have got to the heart of the matter. Here in Australia we consider the UK and USA to be Failed States in terms of Coronavirus, but we also struggle to see why India failed to implement the same precautions as Vietnam.

Forget the expensive stuff that we do in Australia and New Zealand - genomic testing of every single positive case so that we know who infected whom.

There are cheap things which we did which poor countries like Vietnam did too, and which should be mandatory before you play sport at home:

1.Every single person with a headache, sore throat, cough or runny nose HAS to get tested.
2. They are not allowed to take public transport to the testing site, or be driven, or to share their vehicle. Anyone who has shared a vehicle with them joins them in quarantine for 14 days.
3. Testing sites are in every suburb of every town and city.
4. While you await your result, you are not allowed contact with any other person. You may have to be locked in a room in your home.
5. If you test positive, you are hospitalised even if you have no symptoms. And your contacts (home, work etc) are forcibly isolated from other humans for 14 days.
6. Any positive case has contact tracing of everywhere they have been for 14 days, and every person they have had contact with for 14 days. And those people are banned from contact with other people for 14 days, or until they have had 2 negative tests 10 days apart.

No cleaners.
No drivers.
No cooks.
No contact with ANYONE.

Because of this, Australia has had 1 Covid death in the last 6 months - and that was someone who caught it in the Philippines.

That is how you make a country safe for sport.

India has failed to take the care of its population that Vietnam has. Vietnam has a population of 96 million, and is poor, yet has had only 2833 cases and 35 deaths. Because they forcibly isolate contacts of suspected cases at army bases.

It baffles me why India ploughs on with hosting the IPL, because it is giving India a reputation across the cricket world of being a country with brutal indifference towards the suffering of its own people. Every day that the IPL continues, the reputation of India as a nation and the IPL as a brand gets more and more damaged.

Did these measures happen in Australia or Vietnam?

Seems a bit impractical to enforce here and probably only possible in authoritarian countries.

 

[Mamoon]

Nobody here thinks that IPL force the players to play in time of pandemic...

It actually attracts the players to let go of their national duty and that too even before world cup eg A B De Villiers.....
This is again another story not related here...

BCCI would lost face if it forces a player to play it irrespective of situation.... Bcoz one day or the other it may come back 2 bite them......as in today's world nothing is private ...

Plenty do. Go through this thread.

De Villiers’ situation has nothing to do with IPL. He had a fall out with CSA because of the quota system. He has been available for selection since the 2019 World Cup but South Africa have decided to move on.

All the top players are still playing for their countries and no one has retired for IPL money. Again, when it comes to delusion thinking and come up with high fantasy stories, our fans have no match.

 

[Mamoon]

IPL window to save international cricket..???
R u kidding..???
Window of 3 months to save international cricket...
Anyways hope world cricket don't bow down to this negative demand......

It is not that hard to understand.

If there is no window for IPL and the likes of Australia, England and New Zealand play each other during IPL, what will happen?

The likes of Smith, Warner, Cummins, Maxwell, Stokes, Bairstow, Morgan, Archer, Butter, Williamson, Boult, Jamieson etc. will opt out of international duty and choose to play in IPL.

As a result, it is necessary for IPL to have a window because it protects the international teams and doesn’t make the top players choose between IPL and international cricket.

If PSL, which is a third rate copy of IPL, gains the resources to attract the best players in the world, it will also get a window.

However, at this point, PSL and other leagues do not have the money to convince the top players in the world to play, so they don’t have their own windows.

Although I think the situation might change because of The Hundred since ECB have very deep pockets and a lot of pull.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Now that some players have started to pull out of IPL, some IPL fans have started saying "look BCCI didn't threaten them, they are leaving on their own" rather than talking about the bio secure bubble and why players are losing confidence in that. I can see more players quitting IPL in the next coming days.

 

[90MPH]

My opinion is the IPL should be temporary suspended.

Why ? Because there is a catastrophe happening in the country..

Not because the players are at huge risk, though even that it only takes one person to breach it to spread such a virus like wildfire.

For me It just doesn’t feel right that this tournament should be happening right now when so many are suffering and can’t get into hospital because of lack of beds or worse because there is no oxygen.

The IPL can wait till next month until at least it dies down a bit. Even PSL shouldn’t be played till the cases have gone way down - June itself is far too early.

However it’s up to the Indian government and BCCI - if they want to carry on and the fans want it then that’s their decision to make.

 

[Thanos]

Now that some players have started to pull out of IPL, some IPL fans have started saying "look BCCI didn't threaten them, they are leaving on their own" rather than talking about the bio secure bubble and why players are losing confidence in that. I can see more players quitting IPL in the next coming days.

So you think Ashwin left because he lost confidence in bio bubble.
How can you be sure that Zampa & Richardson left because they lost confidence in bio bubble OR because they've little confidence in India's current medical facilities in case they get virus. OR it's just that they morally felt wrong playing cricket in this tough time?

 

[naseem]

It is not that hard to understand.

If there is no window for IPL and the likes of Australia, England and New Zealand play each other during IPL, what will happen?

The likes of Smith, Warner, Cummins, Maxwell, Stokes, Bairstow, Morgan, Archer, Butter, Williamson, Boult, Jamieson etc. will opt out of international duty and choose to play in IPL.

As a result, it is necessary for IPL to have a window because it protects the international teams and doesn’t make the top players choose between IPL and international cricket.

If PSL, which is a third rate copy of IPL, gains the resources to attract the best players in the world, it will also get a window.

However, at this point, PSL and other leagues do not have the money to convince the top players in the world to play, so they don’t have their own windows.

Although I think the situation might change because of The Hundred since ECB have very deep pockets and a lot of pull.

So by ur logic a 3 month window where there will be no international bilateral series or matches....but what if if that country happens to be srilanka Bangladesh Pakistan ... Not all kiwis play IPL....Not all Lankans play IPL.....
So 3 months of unforced lockdown on the likes of Sibley Foakes Fin Allen Conway Guptil Babar Rizwan Karunaratne Tamim Mehdi Wood .....and who knows who.......for sake of a few......this narrow mindedness is what classifies IPL and those who r supporting it in pandemic......

Hope it's clear now

 

[naseem]

So you think Ashwin left because he lost confidence in bio bubble.
How can you be sure that Zampa & Richardson left because they lost confidence in bio bubble OR because they've little confidence in India's current medical facilities in case they get virus. OR it's just that they morally felt wrong playing cricket in this tough time?

It's about mental state...it's about stress it's about the fear of unknown......it's about fear of not meeting ur near ones soon....
Most ppl can't relate 2 it though even with all the 6 Infinity stones

 

[in_cutter]

Exactly. If the players feel unsafe they will leave, and the franchises respect their right to do so.

Sadly, some of our posters here think that these players will take bullets for IPL money.

However, we should not be surprised that these posters have been left red-faced as usual. Whatever they say backfires in spectacular fashion.

The jealously and bitterness over IPL is too great for us to think rationally and use our common sense.

Man, don’t you get tired of posting your anti-Pakistani agenda? Nobody is ‘jealous’: Get over yourself.

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

Man, don’t you get tired of posting your anti-Pakistani agenda? Nobody is ‘jealous’: Get over yourself.

There is definitely clear bitterness on part of some Pakistani fans that BCCI is able to organize IPL superbly and has had no biosecure bubble breaches despite Covid raging across the country whereas PCB was not able to successfully organize PSL despite Pakistan doing pretty well in terms of covid at the time the tournament wa shelf.

 

[Mamoon]

So by ur logic a 3 month window where there will be no international bilateral series or matches....but what if if that country happens to be srilanka Bangladesh Pakistan ... Not all kiwis play IPL....Not all Lankans play IPL.....
So 3 months of unforced lockdown on the likes of Sibley Foakes Fin Allen Conway Guptil Babar Rizwan Karunaratne Tamim Mehdi Wood .....and who knows who.......for sake of a few......this narrow mindedness is what classifies IPL and those who r supporting it in pandemic......

Hope it's clear now

Nothing is stopping small teams like Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh from playing matches during IPL season.

Pakistan is currently playing its new arch rival Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka is playing Bangladesh.

New Zealand home season ends before IPL season anyway, so it does not impact them.

 

[Coolcapri]

stop the IPL temporary, Use all the resources and ground for patient treatment,

Make makeshift hospitals in the grounds.

BCCI & all private big wigs needs to get the resources required by states privately,

Also why Indian Govt ask twitter to block true suffering stories/pics,

If people don't highlight the issue how those will be resolve.

Still BJP is looking after self interest and trying to block any coverage put them in bad light no matter how much true it is. Pathetic.

 

[Rajdeep]

IPL final is at the end of may which is still a month to go. Considering the situation, I dont think even mighty IPL can hold on for so long. So chances of it getting cancelled soon is very strong. But if somehow BCCI can pull this one off and complete IPL successfully, they must be credited as the most able sporting body in the entire world.

 

[Mr Crickekter]

T20 World Cup in India , Time to change venue

I think to cancel IPL or not its the internet matter of Indians.And most people of india are happy to continue it.
But considering the alarming situation in India due to COVID 19 Crisis i think it's the time for ICC to think whether to play T20 world cup in India or not.
Also all cricket boards of world should think about it.After all lives of players and others matters the most..
So all nations participating in the T20 world cup should put pressure on ICC to shift this event from India.

 

[Rajdeep]

I think to cancel IPL or not its the internet matter of Indians.And most people of india are happy to continue it.
But considering the alarming situation in India due to COVID 19 Crisis i think it's the time for ICC to think whether to play T20 world cup in India or not.
Also all cricket boards of world should think about it.After all lives of players and others matters the most..
So all nations participating in the T20 world cup should put pressure on ICC to shift this event from India.

I will make it easy for you. There wont be a T20 world cup this year.

 

[someone21]

So you think Ashwin left because he lost confidence in bio bubble.
How can you be sure that Zampa & Richardson left because they lost confidence in bio bubble OR because they've little confidence in India's current medical facilities in case they get virus. OR it's just that they morally felt wrong playing cricket in this tough time?

Because they have the “luxury” to leave. There are millions of daily wagers to still have to work. Nothing special about these IPL players.

Ash left because probably his own family are affected in some ways. While the 2 foreigners left because they fee they can be disallowed to Australia in case of their country completely bans people from India.

There are many foreign players with their families, and many people livelihood depends on it, not just the players.

 

[Thanos]

It's about mental state...it's about stress it's about the fear of unknown......it's about fear of not meeting ur near ones soon....
Most ppl can't relate 2 it though even with all the 6 Infinity stones

You are jumping trains without looking at destination.
BVB specifically said that players are leaving because they lost confidence in bubble and I responded asking how he can be sure that players are leaving for that particular reason only.

 

[Mamoon]

Man, don’t you get tired of posting your anti-Pakistani agenda? Nobody is ‘jealous’: Get over yourself.

Of course there is jealousy. IPL has become bigger than Pakistan cricket itself without any contribution from Pakistan players.

The success of IPL forced us to come up with our own third rate, cheap version called PSL where we have collected retired legends and minnow level foreign players, and then we tell each other that the standard of bowling is best in the world.

IPL has achieved parity with international cricket. It is a bigger deal than bilateral LOI cricket between non-big 3 teams.

Apart from the fans of their respective sides, no one cares about Pakistan vs Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka vs Bangladesh when IPL is going on.

Teams like Mumbai Indians and Chennai Super Kings have more value than international teams like Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, West Indies, Zimbabwe, Afghanistan and Ireland.

These days, Limited Overs cricket is all about the ICC tournaments + IPL + big 3 bilaterals.

Series between teams like Pakistan, Sri Lanka and even South Africa at this point are irrelevant.

 

[Thanos]

I think to cancel IPL or not its the internet matter of Indians.And most people of india are happy to continue it.
But considering the alarming situation in India due to COVID 19 Crisis i think it's the time for ICC to think whether to play T20 world cup in India or not.
Also all cricket boards of world should think about it.After all lives of players and others matters the most..
So all nations participating in the T20 world cup should put pressure on ICC to shift this event from India.

ICC has already said that it has backup plan ready if WT20 needs be shifted from India.

 

[Mr Crickekter]

ICC has already said that it has backup plan ready if WT20 needs be shifted from India.

That's great..
But this should happen as soon as possible..
So that all teams will know it and plan accordingly.

 

[The cricket enthusiast]

That's great..
But this should happen as soon as possible..
So that all teams will know it and plan accordingly.

Not UAE please..
England much better

 

[Junaids]

Did these measures happen in Australia or Vietnam?

Seems a bit impractical to enforce here and probably only possible in authoritarian countries.

Australia and New Zealand and Vietnam and Taiwan and Singapore.

This virus is easy to eradicate at zero expense if you aggressively use isolation and quarantine.

And Western Australia consequently has the world’s strongest economy. With Queensland in third place.

India is in ruins because they didn’t do what Vietnam did.

 

[naseem]

Nothing is stopping small teams like Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh from playing matches during IPL season.

Pakistan is currently playing its new arch rival Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka is playing Bangladesh.

New Zealand home season ends before IPL season anyway, so it does not impact them.

As far as I know NZ last played in March and their season goes till March....they even tour Asia in May June.......also Srilanka Zimbabwe Ireland Pakistan Afghanistan plays cricket not gully danda....

So 2 forcefully stop them from playing international cricket is not moral....

England might agree but what if 100 experiment fails...

What if many players like Starc move away from IPL....for safety security and to be with family......does world cricket still be cruel to them and to lots of lots of fans.....

IPL may be gold standard but it should not come at a cost of international matches.....today they ask for 3 months window tomorrow they might want half a year window ....

Then...???...

Better to act prudently now and stop this ****.....

 

[cricket4all]

People asking for postponement of IPL is not due to jealousy but concern and the overall situation for playing cricket is not appropriate.

Regardless, about people banging on about jealousy here, well if there is anyone jealous then so what. It’s human nature for emotions and feelings, and people have a right to feel how they want lol. Jealousy can happen over different things by all.

So the jealousy nonsense isn’t the issue here but the lives and well being of the people suffering from Covid, helping them and controlling the spread. Cricket is not appropriate right now and can be played later.

 

[Mr Crickekter]

Of course there is jealousy. IPL has become bigger than Pakistan cricket itself without any contribution from Pakistan players.

The success of IPL forced us to come up with our own third rate, cheap version called PSL where we have collected retired legends and minnow level foreign players, and then we tell each other that the standard of bowling is best in the world.

IPL has achieved parity with international cricket. It is a bigger deal than bilateral LOI cricket between non-big 3 teams.

Apart from the fans of their respective sides, no one cares about Pakistan vs Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka vs Bangladesh when IPL is going on.

Teams like Mumbai Indians and Chennai Super Kings have more value than international teams like Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, West Indies, Zimbabwe, Afghanistan and Ireland.

These days, Limited Overs cricket is all about the ICC tournaments + IPL + big 3 bilaterals.

Series between teams like Pakistan, Sri Lanka and even South Africa at this point are irrelevant.

Na there is a difference between a club/ league team and an National team.
No matter how much wealth these leagues with generate.. still a national team is something which gives you recognition as a player, which introduces you to the world.e.g if there would have not been South African National team,then who would have heard of Devillers,Miller,Rabada.

 

[Savak]

Completely socially irresponsible behaviour by the BCCI. Paisa is not everything in life.

 

[Mr Crickekter]

Not UAE please..
England much better

Yes England could be a better option

 

[naseem]

You are jumping trains without looking at destination.
BVB specifically said that players are leaving because they lost confidence in bubble and I responded asking how he can be sure that players are leaving for that particular reason only.

Yup having low confidence in bubble is a cause too..if not them.but their family member definitely trembling with fear ...esp the news they r getting from india the visuals are quite fearfull alone

 

[naseem]

Na there is a difference between a club/ league team and an National team.
No matter how much wealth these leagues with generate.. still a national team is something which gives you recognition as a player, which introduces you to the world.e.g if there would have not been South African National team,then who would have heard of Devillers,Miller,Rabada.

Sorry I would bet many many fans would love international matches over this mickey mouse masala leagues.....esp true cricket fans....

 

[Rajdeep]

Australia and New Zealand and Vietnam and Taiwan and Singapore.

This virus is easy to eradicate at zero expense if you aggressively use isolation and quarantine.

And Western Australia consequently has the world’s strongest economy. With Queensland in third place.

India is in ruins because they didn’t do what Vietnam did.

Bro, this elongated isolation and quarantine sounds very good but dont work in a country like India. There are millions of daily wage workers who if dont go out and work cant feed their family. So its a case of either die with corona or die hungry.

Only Mumbai's population is bigger than combined polulation of Australia & NewZealand. So India cant implement what western Australia or Queensland is doing.

 

[street cricketer]

Australia and New Zealand and Vietnam and Taiwan and Singapore.

This virus is easy to eradicate at zero expense if you aggressively use isolation and quarantine.

And Western Australia consequently has the world’s strongest economy. With Queensland in third place.

India is in ruins because they didn’t do what Vietnam did.

How do you, say for example, ensure that a person with sore throat doesn't take public transport when there are literally thousands of people with such symptoms in India and a vast majority of them are daily wage workers who don't have the means to travel in their own vehicle or even a taxi for that matter..

 

[Thanos]

Yup having low confidence in bubble is a cause too..if not them.but their family member definitely trembling with fear ...esp the news they r getting from india the visuals are quite fearfull alone

The "could be the reason" list is long. But that's not what my question was there.
Anyway Ieave it.

 

[Thanos]

Sorry I would bet many many fans would love international matches over this mickey mouse masala leagues.....esp true cricket fans....

Depends on teams playing.

 

[naseem]

The "could be the reason" list is long. But that's not what my question was there.
Anyway Ieave it.

Assume ur brother is playing in MLS....Where a 2nd wave of a similar pandemic has broken.....thousands are dying without treatment ..wouldn't u be worried or tell ur brother to come back.....bcoz u r hearing u r country may cancel all flights to and from that affected nation.......

 

[naseem]

Sorry I would bet many many fans would love international matches over this mickey mouse masala leagues.....esp true cricket fans....

The SL WI T20s....were very competitive that held recently....
Also WI NZ ones......Bd Nz ODI matches were good.....SA V PAK Tests and ODIs r quite good....who would not like to see Babar drives against Rabada Nortje....Rizwan Heroics in tests vs same bowling attack.....
Also Fakhar smashing 193..

Cricket is not miopic and only related to Jadeja bashing a random Harshal....

Like Ganguly 's vision his thinking has become miopic too sad to say this......

 

[naseem]

Depends on teams playing.

The SL WI T20s....were very competitive that held recently....
Also WI NZ ones......Bd Nz ODI matches were good.....SA V PAK Tests and ODIs r quite good....who would not like to see Babar drives against Rabada Nortje....Rizwan Heroics in tests vs same bowling attack.....
Also Fakhar smashing 193..

Cricket is not miopic and only related to Jadeja bashing a random Harshal....

Like Ganguly 's vision his thinking has become miopic too sad to say this......

 

[Thanos]

Assume ur brother is playing in MLS....Where a 2nd wave of a similar pandemic has broken.....thousands are dying without treatment ..wouldn't u be worried or tell ur brother to come back.....bcoz u r hearing u r country may cancel all flights to and from that affected nation.......

Ohh man. You really not getting the point. All reasons that you or any other posters have mentioned are valid like sympathy, morally etc. (except where some said IPL money and ground should be used to treat patients)
Even if there is no covid, a player leaving because he felt homesick is also valid for me. That's why I said list of could be reason has no ending.

But that is not what I was asking to BVB.
Hence you please leave it because you are taking it to other direction.

 

[wrongun]

Thanks for the reply. That last paragraph is exactly why it's hard to test more in the subcontinent, where generally any disaster is seen as a conspiracy by the west. People in general don't like to get tested for a variety of reasons and think they can manage any fever at home. It's only after things hit the roof that many visit the hospital. So I think it's impractical to expect the western rates of testing in the subcontinent unless you conduct a mass exercise of mandatory covid testing in the population.

I agree. The logistics involving infrastructure, # of health workers per population, budget possibilities, trust of govt by population, compliance rates and population numbers are all very, very different. India is so crowded that contact tracing isn't really possible wide scale- it's several orders of magnitude more difficult just through the nature of population density- I've been to India a number of times. It's a culture shock vs our spaces available in oz.

Each country has to chart it's own course. Oz or NZ are more comparable in size & technology and infrastructure and all those factors to Taiwan, Singapore or Denmark etc.

South Asian countries have a different set of issues. How well they did or didn't do I can't say- we've seen USA/UK have also some of the worst or most bungled responses for long periods.

There is still some anti vaxxer/conspiracy stuff here but it's 95% media noise vs 95% actually people complying in reality. That said, India people have some HUGE historical reasons not to trust their govt with vaccines & public health & so on.

 

[Junaids]

Bro, this elongated isolation and quarantine sounds very good but dont work in a country like India. There are millions of daily wage workers who if dont go out and work cant feed their family. So its a case of either die with corona or die hungry.

Only Mumbai's population is bigger than combined polulation of Australia & NewZealand. So India cant implement what western Australia or Queensland is doing.

How do you, say for example, ensure that a person with sore throat doesn't take public transport when there are literally thousands of people with such symptoms in India and a vast majority of them are daily wage workers who don't have the means to travel in their own vehicle or even a taxi for that matter..

The same applies in Vietnam. And small places like the Pacific Islands.

The government had to intervene to guarantee a minimum income for daily wage workers so that they didn’t have to go to work in an infectious state.

In fact, even in Australia the government had to introduce JobKeeper, an initiative which ensured that people whose jobs became unviable due to Covid (eg travel agents) were given $3000 per month by the government to keep them in work even if there was no work to be done.

We keep hearing how the Indian economy has advanced and become powerful. But India don’t seem to have the economic capacity to pay daily wage workers through a pandemic, unlike economic superpowers like Vietnam and Rarotonga.

That is not a misprint. The government in Rarotonga pays $280 per week Covid wage support to ensure that nobody would have to be a daily wage worker in a pandemic. Sure, it’s only $14,560 per year. But in a pandemic it’s enough to keep the sick at home if an outbreak occurs.

It’s a weird situation if India can’t afford to do that (to keep the population alive) but boasts of huge cricket riches.

It just seems shamefully ostentatious and disrespectful to the masses to host the world’s highest paying cricket tournament at a time when you claim to be too poor a country to be able to afford to have a Covid subsidy to prevent the sick from going to work and spreading death.

That’s why the IPL is viewed as such a sick idea this year.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Western Australian Premier Mark McGowan has just given a furious press conference and condemned Australian players in the IPL.

His state has just endured a three day lockdown due to some imbecile going to India to get married and bringing back the virus, and infecting two innocent families.

Countless weddings in Perth - best estimate around 500 - had to be cancelled this long weekend due to the reckless traveller’s “need” to get married in India.

McGowan has set the tone now in Australia: players returning from the IPL will be closely scrutinised in case they get the virus in transit on their way home from the “bubble” and if they test positive their future as sportsmen in this country will be very bleak indeed.

Can you post a source for this claim where McGowan mentioned IPL and also thst Australian players in IPL will have a bleak future in Australia?

 

[naseem]

 

[Last Monetarist]

As someone that has recovered from the coronavirus (fortunately the mild form) recently, I can definitely see the argument that the cricket potentially provides a balm of comfort to people that are suffering. It evokes a sense of normalcy and convention amidst misery and general hopelessness.

When one is in isolation and trapped in a room, it can potentially have a huge impact on mental health and psychological well-being. It's also been observed that there is a risk of trauma suffering and incidence of depression among survivors. In this context, if cricket plays a small role (however minute) in helping people cope with the pandemic, I can support the continuation of the tournament.

However, I also strongly believe that the BCCI need to play a bigger role in battling the pandemic by, for example, partnering with healthcare providers and donating a portion of the earnings to set up vaccine centres across India. They can't continue to operate in a metaphorical bubble while misery rages on outside.

 

[cricketjoshila]

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International media has no stake in India. The leftist media targets Modi and the western media gleefully shows suffering of a non white former colony.

This pandemic will be over, but India will stay and those who were rubbing their hands in glee during India's tough days, will be answered.

Right now we are more concerned about taking care of our own country and dont need advise of foreigners.

 

[Junaids]

Can you post a source for this claim where McGowan mentioned IPL and also thst Australian players in IPL will have a bleak future in Australia?

Watch the press conference - it’s on YouTube. He specifically states that leaving the country to play cricket at the height of a pandemic is unnecessary and indefensible.

At this stage the anger is mainly against the Australian Indian who went to India to get married and brought Covid back with him. But I’m saying that any Aussie cricketer who tests positive on his return - the return journey is not bubble-protected - will probably not be safe to live in Australia.

Australians have made sacrifices to beat this virus, and do not appreciate people endangering them in order to get rich.

 

[iiqbal]

Man, don’t you get tired of posting your anti-Pakistani agenda? Nobody is ‘jealous’: Get over yourself.

Maybe he is getting paid for it. Maybe they have anti-pakistani cricket whatsapp group. From where he daily come up with new theory against Pakistan cricket team and nation.

 

[Junaids]

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International media has no stake in India. The leftist media targets Modi and the western media gleefully shows suffering of a non white former colony.

This pandemic will be over, but India will stay and those who were rubbing their hands in glee during India's tough days, will be answered.

Right now we are more concerned about taking care of our own country and dont need advise of foreigners.

Interesting. So why was this the main headline in my Israeli newspaper yesterday?



It strikes me that there is an Indian elite which completely fails to recognise that this outbreak is universally blamed upon the Indian government, or that the continuation of the IPL is leading the tournament to suffer incredible brand damage.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

International media has no stake in India. The leftist media targets Modi and the western media gleefully shows suffering of a non white former colony.

This pandemic will be over, but India will stay and those who were rubbing their hands in glee during India's tough days, will be answered.

Right now we are more concerned about taking care of our own country and dont need advise of foreigners.

Are you for real? You take everything personally and try to project it as India vs Rest of the World. People who are dying are real. When the pandemic gets over those who died won't return. Have some shame please and don't indulge in point scoring.

 

[90MPH]

International media has no stake in India. The leftist media targets Modi and the western media gleefully shows suffering of a non white former colony.

This pandemic will be over, but India will stay and those who were rubbing their hands in glee during India's tough days, will be answered.

Right now we are more concerned about taking care of our own country and dont need advise of foreigners.

There is no anti-Indian agenda, especially on the Covid issue as this has affected everyone in the world.

If anything most “foreigners” like here in England have been lobbying the UK government via social media to send assistance as soon as possible because the situation has become evidently so desperate - this was only because foreign media like BBC and Sky News have been highlighting the disaster as their top news bulletin.

I’m sure India will get out of it soon but no one is “rubbing their hands” and it’s sad you would think this is happening.

 

[Thanos]

As someone that has recovered from the coronavirus (fortunately the mild form) recently, I can definitely see the argument that the cricket potentially provides a balm of comfort to people that are suffering. It evokes a sense of normalcy and convention amidst misery and general hopelessness.

When one is in isolation and trapped in a room, it can potentially have a huge impact on mental health and psychological well-being. It's also been observed that there is a risk of trauma suffering and incidence of depression among survivors. In this context, if cricket plays a small role (however minute) in helping people cope with the pandemic, I can support the continuation of the tournament.

However, I also strongly believe that the BCCI need to play a bigger role in battling the pandemic by, for example, partnering with healthcare providers and donating a portion of the earnings to set up vaccine centres across India. They can't continue to operate in a metaphorical bubble while misery rages on outside.

Sorry but no one will give you importance since you don't fit the agenda. Here people talks about those covid patients only who are in hospital or looking for bed outside hospital or worse. Thousands of people who are covid positive and in home quarantined are simply ignored here because if they say they want IPL to continue as it gives some relief in this tough time, it won't fit their agenda.

Some people even have done research that how miniscule level (compared to whole country) of testing used in IPL is responsible for killing people.
Everyone knows that the best people can do to flatten the covid curve is to stay home.
However posters here simply ignore the point that IPL indirectly stopping the spread by keeping millions of people at home for 4 hours daily.

The only valid reason of stopping IPL is either on moral grounds or when players pull out.

 

[OldWarHorse]

Really want the tournament to go on now that it has begun. There are livelihoods at stake. The BCCI has done a commendable job so far keeping things tight, but can understand the overseas players wanting to leave. Their families would be worried.


Coming to that, I had specifically mentioned in this thread that IPL should be not be compared to year long European football leagues. Their players actually live where they play, they dont have the stress of staying alone so far away in a separate corner of the world and fear being trapped if something goes wrong. Its too much mentally and some players performances have shown that.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Is IPL still going on?

How can players even think of playing cricket when people are literally dying on streets due to lack of medical facilities(mainly oxygen).

BCCI with all the money and power could’ve done something for the nation, but no let’s PLAY IPL. I’m done with IPL and Indian cricket for good. BCCI has to be most heartless organization.

Thank you to all the people around the world specially our neighbours in Pakistan who have been sending love and well wishes( even offered to help despite having limited resources) to people of India. I really wish for once it brings peace between the two nations.

Anyone who thinks IPL or any entertainment is acceptable when there is major catastrophic folding in front of our eyes is fine, needs to get their head check. #ShutDownIPL

 

[Kroll]

Is IPL still going on?

How can players even think of playing cricket when people are literally dying on streets due to lack of medical facilities(mainly oxygen).

Because we've been told that it's only Delhi and bits of Maharashtra that are adversely affected so its all good.

 

[Thanos]

Is IPL still going on?

How can players even think of playing cricket when people are literally dying on streets due to lack of medical facilities(mainly oxygen).

BCCI with all the money and power could’ve done something for the nation, but no let’s PLAY IPL. I’m done with IPL and Indian cricket for good. BCCI has to be most heartless organization.

Thank you to all the people around the world specially our neighbours in Pakistan who have been sending love and well wishes( even offered to help despite having limited resources) to people of India. I really wish for once it brings peace between the two nations.

Anyone who thinks IPL or any entertainment is acceptable when there is major catastrophic folding in front of our eyes is fine, needs to get their head check. #ShutDownIPL

Yeah right. There are home isolated covid positive people who fear for their life daily and pray to god that their medical condition don't get worse.
They too should get their mental treatment along with covid treatment, if they wish IPL to continue.
Right?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Because we've been told that it's only Delhi and bits of Maharashtra that are adversely affected so its all good.

Someone in this thread mentioned that they are going to play next couple of matches in Delhi.

 

[hitthestump]

Ashwin, Zampa, Richardson pulled out of IPL due to covid. And I am sure more players will follow in coming days.
Your theory of BCCI threatening players to not leave IPL mid way didn't even last one day after posting.

Sorry but these two were small fry. The IPL doesn't suffer at all if they leave, neither Zampa or Richardson were even in playing XI's. If anything it suits the BCCI to have a few nobodies go home to feign compassion while the majority stay behind.

We'll wait and see if big players will voluntarily leave, or if local Indian players who don't have the status of Ashwin will leave. BCCI will subtly make sure they don't dare to.

 

[CanadianG00se]

Yeah right. There are home isolated covid positive people who fear for their life daily and pray to god that their medical condition don't get worse.
They too should get their mental treatment along with covid treatment, if they wish IPL to continue.
Right?

If you think IPL is only way to kill your time at home under isolation then I stand by my statement. You do need to get your head check!

 

[CanadianG00se]

Because we've been told that it's only Delhi and bits of Maharashtra that are adversely affected so its all good.

Gujarat is also struggling very badly. People have nowhere to go. Yesterday alone there were more than 476 corpses at Kanpur crematorium alone, while govt reports 2600 deaths nationwide. As per some western journalist posted in India, daily covid deaths in India maybe around 25-30K a day.

In Gujarat my relatives sent me a video of a old man(grandpa’s mate) died on streets while waiting to get oxygen cylinder for himself. He literally drop dead on pavement. Worst part is, no one even came to his rescue in fear of catching covid. That is just one of many cases happening daily in India.
I’m just shocked at Indian players(exception to Ash) showing no remorse to current situation in India(perhaps too much a** kissing) while overseas players are having second thought about continuing IPL.
Mr Virat ‘Worlds most marketable cricketer’ Kohli is busy promoting Puma on tweeter than raising awareness about current situation. I just lost all respect for them idiots. Never supporting them again even if they play for India.

I hate IPL to the core now.

 

[Kroll]

As the face, voice and brand of Indian cricket as well as an IPL stalwart, perhaps its time for Virat Kohli to share his thoughts.

The platform has been laid for him to make a stand either way and show his true greatness more than any cricketing achievement could.

 

[CanadianG00se]

As the face, voice and brand of Indian cricket as well as an IPL stalwart, perhaps its time for Virat Kohli to share his thoughts.

The platform has been laid for him to make a stand either way and show his true greatness more than any cricketing achievement could.

I doubt he have courage to do that.

He is busy promoting RCB and Puma cricket while his hometown Delhi is burning in fire. Tells you about his character

 

[Kroll]

Gujarat is also struggling very badly. People have nowhere to go. Yesterday alone there were more than 476 corpses at Kanpur crematorium alone, while govt reports 2600 deaths nationwide. As per some western journalist posted in India, daily covid deaths in India maybe around 25-30K a day.

In Gujarat my relatives sent me a video of a old man(grandpa’s mate) died on streets while waiting to get oxygen cylinder for himself. He literally drop dead on pavement. Worst part is, no one even came to his rescue in fear of catching covid. That is just one of many cases happening daily in India.
I’m just shocked at Indian players(exception to Ash) showing no remorse to current situation in India(perhaps too much a** kissing) while overseas players are having second thought about continuing IPL.
Mr Virat ‘Worlds most marketable cricketer’ Kohli is busy promoting Puma on tweeter than raising awareness about current situation. I just lost all respect for them idiots. Never supporting them again even if they play for India.

I hate IPL to the core now.

So sad to hear bro, hope your relations are okay and get through this and all others in same situation.

 

[Junaids]

Gujarat is also struggling very badly. People have nowhere to go. Yesterday alone there were more than 476 corpses at Kanpur crematorium alone, while govt reports 2600 deaths nationwide. As per some western journalist posted in India, daily covid deaths in India maybe around 25-30K a day.

In Gujarat my relatives sent me a video of a old man(grandpa’s mate) died on streets while waiting to get oxygen cylinder for himself. He literally drop dead on pavement. Worst part is, no one even came to his rescue in fear of catching covid. That is just one of many cases happening daily in India.
I’m just shocked at Indian players(exception to Ash) showing no remorse to current situation in India(perhaps too much a** kissing) while overseas players are having second thought about continuing IPL.
Mr Virat ‘Worlds most marketable cricketer’ Kohli is busy promoting Puma on tweeter than raising awareness about current situation. I just lost all respect for them idiots. Never supporting them again even if they play for India.

I hate IPL to the core now.

It’s terribly sad.

India is a cricketing superpower and the IPL is a well run tournament.

Unfortunately the ineptitude of its government has left a pandemic running wild, and we all know that upwards of 20,000 people are dying every day.

Now is no time to be playing sport, and everyone outside India recognises that the IPL is continuing as a means of distracting the public’s attention so that they don’t focus on the fact that their government has failed its most basic duty, to keep them alive.

It is obscene that cricket in India continues while the nation burns. Ultimately people are people whatever their nationality, and the contempt that continuing the IPL shows to the dead, the dying and the sick serves only to ruin the reputation of both India and the IPL.

 

[Firebat]

A poll has been added to this thread about whether you think IPL 2021 should be postponed or not.

Vote in it and give your opinion.

 

[naseem]

International media has no stake in India. The leftist media targets Modi and the western media gleefully shows suffering of a non white former colony.

This pandemic will be over, but India will stay and those who were rubbing their hands in glee during India's tough days, will be answered.

Right now we are more concerned about taking care of our own country and dont need advise of foreigners.

It is about Human lyf...I know from The beginning where ur allegiance is......how can a doctor be a blind supporter ??

How can a doctor be so insensitive..???

It's one of the prime Australian newspaper and it's the reality in bengal every second person is covid positive... International community is showing their support and r providing helping hand unlike many so called blind insensitive people like u who seek entertainment in this time of crisis...

Just imagine every Australian playing in IPL...how r they feeling now...how their family member is feeling now.... These visuals will definitely create fear in their mind....

 

[Thanos]

If you think IPL is only way to kill your time at home under isolation then I stand by my statement. You do need to get your head check!

Don't worry about my mental health. I've already made myself very clear multiple times in this thread that if IPL needs to be postponed it should be done on moral grounds.
However I wonder about your mental status if you feel live action of any sports can be matched by movie, tv show. Or news channels which are showing corona related news only and creating panic among all people. Including those who are covid positive and isolated at home.
Not to mention people categorically ignore the fact that millions of people sit at home for 4 hours daily, watch matches and IPL indirectly making people stay at home and stopping the spread.

I wonder you still getting my point so let me make easy for you.
People have different opinions on this, but it actually shows your mental status when you ask others to get their head check only because they don't agree to your opinion.

 

[gazza619]

IPL being conducted currently shows a state of mind.

A state of mind which says we dont give a damn about human lives.

 

[someone21]

IPL being conducted currently shows a state of mind.

A state of mind which says we dont give a damn about human lives.

Lol, so now those watching IPL, don't care about human lives? It's plain jealously and utter nonsense from you.

It's a showbiz, and there is a choice for both players and fans to play/watch IPL. Yet, many poor people don't have a choice and have to continue their livelihood even in this pandemic. That should be the concern.

Watching or not watching IPL will not help neither worsen anything.

 

[Last Monetarist]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I love the <a href="https://twitter.com/IPL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IPL</a> as much as any cricket fan, but it seems so terribly wrong for it to continue given the Covid catastrophe that’s currently occurring in India. People are dying faster than runs are being scored for crying out loud.</p>— Gary Lineker &#55357;&#56473; (@GaryLineker) <a href="https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/1386696747242639360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Lol, so now those watching IPL, don't care about human lives? It's plain jealously and utter nonsense from you.

It's a showbiz, and there is a choice for both players and fans to play/watch IPL. Yet, many poor people don't have a choice and have to continue their livelihood even in this pandemic. That should be the concern.

Watching or not watching IPL will not help neither worsen anything.

Yeah [MENTION=131470]gazza619[/MENTION] and others are jealous that more people are dying in India than any other place.

 

[MP2011]

I doubt he have courage to do that.

He is busy promoting RCB and Puma cricket while his hometown Delhi is burning in fire. Tells you about his character

Kohli is the most hollow celebrity we have.
All he cares about is his Insta followers and moolah he earns from it from each of his Insta post.

Despite having such a fan following, he hasn't said a single word about sufferings of people, says a lot about his character.

 

[UzmanBeast]

I think it should be postponed.

If something happens to a player, it could leave a very bad image of the league.

It's best to preserve human life and perhaps use the revenue earned to support the fight against COVID in India.

 

[sharmaji]

There are times when one is ashamed of the country or rather, the government running the country. Today I feel that about my country.

Not just IPL, but the ongoing Bengal elections, recently concluded Kumbh Mela, absolute unpreparedness in terms of Oxygen supply, vaccination and life-saving-drug availability, the callousness with which leaders and people roamed around as if Corona is over and the insistence that lockdown cannot be imposed because it would affect economy.. It is harrowing watching the news in India.

At the least, they should stop IPL immediately and post-pone it for a later day. I don't understand why it is not being done. How insensitive can these politicians and BCCI people be?

On a side note, Trump underestimated and mismanaged Corona in 2020 and paid the price, got kicked out of White House. Modi is doing the same in 2021. He will also be punished by the people. But meanwhile several innocent people will unfortunately die due to these leaders' egos and foolishness. Sorry for bringing politics into this thread.

It’s terribly sad.

India is a cricketing superpower and the IPL is a well run tournament.

Unfortunately the ineptitude of its government has left a pandemic running wild, and we all know that upwards of 20,000 people are dying every day.

Now is no time to be playing sport, and everyone outside India recognises that the IPL is continuing as a means of distracting the public’s attention so that they don’t focus on the fact that their government has failed its most basic duty, to keep them alive.

It is obscene that cricket in India continues while the nation burns. Ultimately people are people whatever their nationality, and the contempt that continuing the IPL shows to the dead, the dying and the sick serves only to ruin the reputation of both India and the IPL.

 

[KingKhanWC]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I love the <a href="https://twitter.com/IPL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@IPL</a> as much as any cricket fan, but it seems so terribly wrong for it to continue given the Covid catastrophe that’s currently occurring in India. People are dying faster than runs are being scored for crying out loud.</p>— Gary Lineker �� (@GaryLineker) <a href="https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/1386696747242639360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The point.

IPL might be a good distraction for some esp the BJP but surely due to the serioiuness of the situation, the IPL should be suspended to show empahty for those who are infected and dying?

 

[Last Monetarist]

The Australian, who is being tested three times a day, said he has faith in the bio-bubble created for the IPL.

https://indianexpress.com/article/s...pl-2021-covid-19-bio-bubble-comments-7289967/

If the players are being tested thrice a day, then it's a colossal waste of testing resources. The BCCI should at a minimum donate double that number of kits to testing centres in each of the cities where the tournament is being hosted.

 

[IMMY69]

52 passengers on a plane from India to Hong kong tested positive on arrival even though their initial test was negative.

That's scary

 

[silentkiller187]

The problem is you can’t even trust the tests now, 52 out of 188 passengers on a flight from Delhi to Hong Kong tested positive on arrival after testing negative in India, seems like they need to close the borders ASAP otherwise they will become a importer of COVID. Makes me worry about all the Indians that rushed back to the uk before fridays deadline so they didn’t have to quarantine, going to become super spreaders and force this country into another lockdown?

 

[Ahmad-GERMANFC]

The funny thing to me is that the ‘keep IPL going since it provides a distraction to the poor suffering from Covid’ crowd actualky believe that the poorest parts of Indian society have their own bedrooms with TVs where they can isolate and watch IPL

 

[Last Monetarist]

The funny thing to me is that the ‘keep IPL going since it provides a distraction to the poor suffering from Covid’ crowd actualky believe that the poorest parts of Indian society have their own bedrooms with TVs where they can isolate and watch IPL

What about the significant number people that have television sets? It's utterly narrow-minded to underestimate the redeeming power of sport in people's lives. It's also a deliberate failure to understand the cultural value of cricket to India.

Sure there will be a lot of people that find the IPL a gaudy display of excess and greed, which isn't inaccurate even in pre-pandemic years, however, what utility do these people get if the tournament is postponed? It doesn't alleviate the problem of the pandemic in any tangible sense, beyond token moralizing. Unless there's a country-wide curfew in place, it's also a deliberate omission to disregard the possibility that people that are staying indoors to watch the cricket are curbing the spread of the disease.

The point in favour of postponement that is truly compelling relates to the concern over the risk of shortage of testing kits. The BCCI should, for once, think of the wider good and invest in procuring testing kits and donating them around the country. In addition, they should also commit to invest in activities geared to fighting the pandemic: such as establishing a coronavirus relief fund for families that have been affected; and investing in vaccine supplies, oxygen tanks, and PPE equipment for healthcare staff.

Of course, it goes without saying that the continuation of the tournament is utterly dependent on the sanctity of the bubble. Player safety should not be jeopardized at any cost.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Watch the press conference - it’s on YouTube. He specifically states that leaving the country to play cricket at the height of a pandemic is unnecessary and indefensible.

At this stage the anger is mainly against the Australian Indian who went to India to get married and brought Covid back with him. But I’m saying that any Aussie cricketer who tests positive on his return - the return journey is not bubble-protected - will probably not be safe to live in Australia.

Australians have made sacrifices to beat this virus, and do not appreciate people endangering them in order to get rich.

So nowhere did McGowan say that cricketers playing in the IPL will have a bleak future. Its your claim.