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Should Khurram Manzoor be given an extended run in LOIs?

No he shouldnt be selected based on this one good innings but he is much better than shehzad because at least he shows intent
 
Tweeted this before the game:

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If anything it just highlights the disparity between international cricket and our domestic. The players just aren't technically/mentally ready for the step up.
 
Lool if carries on like this in the next 3 games he could easily be selected for the Odis against England. :inzi
 
People shouldn't confuse ODIs and T20s. Manzoor has very good list A stats and could be worth giving a shot in ODIS if he keeps performing
 
I don't know why people are trolling Khurram Manzoor on consistent basis. He has a fantastic listA record. Avgs 48 in 110 games at a SR of 80. These are a lot better numbers than Shahzad's.
 
Abdul said:
I don't know why people are trolling Khurram Manzoor on consistent basis. He has a fantastic listA record. Avgs 48 in 110 games at a SR of 80. These are a lot better numbers than Shahzad's.
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does selectors track List A 1-day and T20 matches stats separate?
 
One good innings against a poor bowling attack and everyone is crying for Manzoor to be selected. We will never learn as a nation and we will always remain behind because of these impulsive decisions.
 
Yanna_Rascala said:
One good innings against a poor bowling attack and everyone is crying for Manzoor to be selected. We will never learn as a nation and we will always remain behind because of these impulsive decisions.
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Errm...NO ONE will be crying for Khurram!
 
youngsta beauties Nawaz, Babar-e-Azam failed. But this man put his head down and despite the hate grenades being thrown his way by the resident hate brigade, he has scored runs today like a man on a mission.

iA he gets selected for ODIs, deserves it more than some so-called youngster beauts. Karachi ki shaan, Pakistan ki pehchaan, Khurram Manzoor.
 
Even I a TV viewer know Manzoor is not a T20 player but rather a test or ODI player. Even his domestic record says this.

Plus a blind can see he was setup to fail in T20 to bring Shahzad back. Him scoring in those conditions after a comeback in the team after months, would have been a miracle.
I am not advocate of him being selected since I believe thier are better players than him as openers, but justice was not done with him either.
 
A lot of haters have been owned today and rightfully so.

People need to realize that the Khurram we saw in t20s is a different beast in ODIs.

It's like the Jaws shark on land vs it under water. On land you can kick it and run away provided you are quick.

In the water you are dead.

Khuri in ODIs is like a shark in water, it is his domain.

I hope he makes it in ODIs, we need an opener like him in the team who isn't afraid of bowlers and puts fear in them.

He even dazzled Steyn. Steyn was saying gandi baatein to him but he blew him a kiss and Steyn shut up.

Does anyone have highlights of his innings from today? @#Greenroar [MENTION=137997]Abdullah[/MENTION]

Need these kind of characters with big personalities in the team.

IMO an ODI squad like this would be a treat:

1) Sallu
2) Khurri
3) Moha
4) Shobby
5) Babar
6) Kami+
7) Yamin
8) Nawaz
9) Amir
10) Hassan
11) Sohail
 
He is a must for eng tour. What a player.

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everything one needs to know about his game is on display in the asia cup. he played every match. guys like these are king at domestic level.
 
Should be kept away from t20s but in Odis if he keeps scoring at domestic level he has a good chance of being selected. Judging on the Pakistan cup his only competition seems to be Sami Aslam, Salman butt, and fakhar. His strike rate is much better nd he is scoring hundreds.
 
He is crap couple of good innings on flat highways don't mean anything.. He is a TTF I hope he fails in remaining Matches

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Professor said:
People shouldn't confuse ODIs and T20s. Manzoor has very good list A stats and could be worth giving a shot in ODIS if he keeps performing
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Yes. Most people on the board seem to get this by now. Hopefully the selectors will too.
 
I hate the fact that he is scoring centuries for fun and the "talented" and "hyped" batsmen are struggling to cross 50.

I hope Inzi doesn't select him
 
Syed1 said:
I hate the fact that he is scoring centuries for fun and the "talented" and "hyped" batsmen are struggling to cross 50.

I hope Inzi doesn't select him
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Yeah, sad state of affairs really. But he needs to be given credit where due. T20's are different to ODI's. It would be unfair if he does not get a shot in ODI's for Pakistan.
 
Syed1 said:
I hate the fact that he is scoring centuries for fun and the "talented" and "hyped" batsmen are struggling to cross 50.

I hope Inzi doesn't select him
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I hope Inzi understands that a batsman can be good at ODIs but bad at T20Is.
 
Khurram Manzoor has to be selected for ODI team

I remember Mohammad Hafeez was out of the team for so long then in one domestic tournament he performed way better than anybody else and forced the selectors to select him. And from then on he has been in the team.

I can see same thing happening with Khurram Manzoor now. The guy is playing at a way above level than anybody else and is forcing the selectors with his game to select him. Khurram Manzoor has to be selected for ODI team now.
 
I agree. He may have a flawed technique, but if a batsman scores so prolifically in domestic matches then he must be given a chance in the appropriate format. The pitches in the Asia cup were also quite difficult to bat on for the top order batsmen. At the very least, he is a positive player. You have to reward him for these performances. The issues with his technique is due to a deeper problem within our domestic setup and coaches.
 
Deserves a run in ODIs. Should definitely replace Shehzad who will lose us many games if not dropped soon
 
Manzoor is on fire. Him getting dropped for the t20 World Cup must have given him extra motivation. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if he is selected for LOI series against England. :manzoor
 
Pete Rose said:
everything one needs to know about his game is on display in the asia cup. he played every match. guys like these are king at domestic level.
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What did Rohit Sharma do in the Asia Cup? Top order batsmen were dropping like flies in that tournament because of the conditions. Khurram is not a world beater, and is definitely technically flawed, but that one tournament is not enough to end his international career. That whole tournament was very painful and I am also guilty of taking some of that pain and anger out on Khurram, but he deserves a shot in the ODI side.
 
He's another Shafiq

Will always suck at international cricket, even though Shafiq is doing well in the Test format but that is because he's playing in the UAE (take him out and watch)

But then you look at domestic cricket, he's performing and the likes of Sami are too but at a bit of slower level

Still rather see Sami given the opportunity because he has years and years to improve
 
I have a geniune question to OP - What is with you and your love of the worst players that Pakistan cricket has? Sharjeel, Butt, Manzoor - the list just goes on and on.
 
I think he is not cut for International level, and Sharjeel is a timid character as well, so Sami Aslam and Fakhar Zaman are the way forward.
 
I would take him over shehzad but he is not international standards he scored most of the runs on the leg side but should be given a go in some odis
 
I judge what I see on international level and he is not international quality at all. Anyway this is another troll thread.
 
ZaynM said:
I have a geniune question to OP - What is with you and your love of the worst players that Pakistan cricket has? Sharjeel, Butt, Manzoor - the list just goes on and on.
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From the above mentioned Sharjeel is atleast better than Shehzad in T-20's.

But yeah Fakhar and Sami are the best bet for ODI's.
 
People are deluded if they think Khurram can perform like this in english conditions where the balls swings a mile and the new bunch of england bowlers all bowl at 90mph
 
sully3 said:
People are deluded if they think Khurram can perform like this in english conditions where the balls swings a mile and the new bunch of england bowlers all bowl at 90mph
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Please tell me you arent talking about Topley and co :danish
 
I am not sure who is the worst batman to come out of Pakistan: Manzoor or Umar Amin?
 
Manzoor and jamshed started their odi career with a bang ....jamshed is down and out but manzoor can still make it.... if plays well then definitely desrve a go for the England series
 
naseem said:
Manzoor and jamshed started their odi career with a bang ....jamshed is down and out but manzoor can still make it.... if plays well then definitely desrve a go for the England series
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Nasir was allowed to play international cricket even though he had some glaring technical faults in his batting. By the end of his 2nd year in international cricket every bowler had found out he simply could not play the ball outside off and will edge it in a matter of minutes. he's a walking wicket at that level
 
I hear a lot of complaints about the guy, and I was one of the guys since seeing his failures in Tests made it a huge NO for ODIs, but if he carries on like this then for sure. People will complain when you don't select your best batsmen who have scored the most runs yet the same people have political views about said chosen player. What happened to picking people on merit?

So far we have a few openers wanting 1 opening slot, along with Azhar Ali, so it'll be tough for everyone but if anyone of Fakhar, Sami or Manzoor get chosen then I wouldn't be too disappointed
 
Move away from those who have failed. We have seen enough internationally to know who is a domestic bully, and who falters when the bright lights and cameras are on.
 
People who say that he can play ODIs but not T20s are making error of judgment because they are looking at his stats only and not looking at his batting.

He has fundamental technical errors in his batting which will not disappear in ODI cricket. He did not fail in T20s because he cannot bat in T20s, but because the conditions of the Asia Cup were terrible for batting, and he has a clear weakness on the fourth stump line, i.e. The Corridor of Uncertainty.

Almost 90% of his dismissals are caught WK/slip.

The format doesn't matter, if you bowl to him there and if there is something in the pitch, he will struggle.

However, he's dynamic player and a good stroke-maker. On flat wickets, he can be very handy in both ODIs and T20Is.

Before getting written off completely, he should be allowed to fail on flat wickets in Limited Overs.
 
manzoor will go tuk tuk in odis as well. Not as bad as our current lot but still wont be anywhere close to a solution and given his age there is no point in persisting with him
 
He should be given a chance in Sharjeel's absence. Sharjeel was a gamble and so is Manzoor, when it comes off, it comes off
 
The problem with him is that once he gets his chance he will not bring his "domestic king" swagger to international cricket.
Quite the kitten when facing the big boys much like the rest of the Pakistan players.
 
Pete Rose said:
The problem with him is that once he gets his chance he will not bring his "domestic king" swagger to international cricket.
Quite the kitten when facing the big boys much like the rest of the Pakistan players.
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what's the point of domestic cricket if you're not gonna reward the good performers, Pakistan needs an aggressive opener right now and Khurram is consistently scoring quickly as an opener.
He was never given a proper run in Odis.
You are Azhar Ali fan maybe that's why you dont want Khurram but rather watch the Azhar tuk-tuk.
 
Citizen4 said:
what's the point of domestic cricket if you're not gonna reward the good performers, Pakistan needs an aggressive opener right now and Khurram is consistently scoring quickly as an opener.
He was never given a proper run in Odis.
You are Azhar Ali fan maybe that's why you dont want Khurram but rather watch the Azhar tuk-tuk.
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i dont its about one player or the other: my view has always been that this squad has too much sameness: ahzar, shehzad, hafeez, malik, sarfaraz, babar.
i dont think khurrum was going to get a look in and its better that he comes after the CT. we will be playing easier opposition on easier pitches: thats literally hafeez's career - no shame in that.
 
Khurram should never play international cricket again. One of the most limited batsmen to ever play international cricket... he can be a domestic bully as long as he wants.
 
Pete Rose said:
i dont its about one player or the other: my view has always been that this squad has too much sameness: ahzar, shehzad, hafeez, malik, sarfaraz, babar.
i dont think khurrum was going to get a look in and its better that he comes after the CT. we will be playing easier opposition on easier pitches: thats literally hafeez's career - no shame in that.
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Inzi dont care about Khurram anyways. He was excellent in the last Pakistan cups, scored 100 off 70 and 120 off 90. Was ignored back then for Odis, will be ignored this year too.
Inzi has even ignored Yamin who is some very good quickfire runs in the lower order.

Inzi is the biggest hypocrite, he says in the interviews about our 80s brand of cricket and keeps selecting tuk-tuk players instead of aggressive players.
 
Sarfarazian92 said:
Except Khurram Manzoor becomes an inferior version of Shehzad when he wears the green jersey.
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his best format is ODI, he was never given a proper chance. Are we just gonna assume that good performers are gonna fail and just stick with tuk tuk openers?
Aggressive openers will definitely fail in half matches but they'll give us a good start in the rest of the half matches.
 
Citizen4 said:
his best format is ODI, he was never given a proper chance. Are we just gonna assume that good performers are gonna fail and just stick with tuk tuk openers?
Aggressive openers will definitely fail in half matches but they'll give us a good start in the rest of the half matches.
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He is same as Shehzad. Aggressive in domestics, but tuk tuk at international level.
 
Rayyman said:
He is same as Shehzad. Aggressive in domestics, but tuk tuk at international level.
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Shehzad was never this aggressive, Khurram has played several knocks with very high strike rate, Shehzad never plays with that high strike rate.

But it doesn't matter, Inzi doesn't want aggressive players, Yamin was ignored, Khurram was ignored, Fakhar warmed the bench in WI.
Inzi wants tuk-tuk delight nothing else.
 
If we are gonna go with hack I'd rather pick a crazy one than a timid one. Likes of zia and Naved malik. Let's see how this Farhan kid does as well, maybe a trip to bangladesh beckons
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
If we are gonna go with hack I'd rather pick a crazy one than a timid one. Likes of zia and Naved malik. Let's see how this Farhan kid does as well, maybe a trip to bangladesh beckons
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why not select hacks who are performing in the domestics as well? Khurram and Fakhar deserve to play Odis.
 
Khurrum produces many knocks like this where he simply slaughters the bowlers.

Shehzad never does this. Shehzad is best is a strike rate of 100. When was the last time Shehzad brutalized bowlers? Can you remember?

Nope! Becuase it has never happened
 
Citizen4 said:
why not select hacks who are performing in the domestics as well? Khurram and Fakhar deserve to play Odis.
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Fahkar yes, I hope he opens in the ct

But Khurram has never convinced me, and at his age I'd rather focus on someone else. I know zia and Malik are old as well but at least we know how they will play .

I agree with others that khurram will be like Shezhad. Shezhad has a great strike rate in domestic cricket. In the 90s if you take out his odi stats
 
His weaknesses have always been exploited a level above. These are misleading performances. He's done this many times in the past as well. You don't get supremely flat tracks like in Pakistan anywhere else.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Fahkar yes, I hope he opens in the ct

But Khurram has never convinced me, and at his age I'd rather focus on someone else. I know zia and Malik are old as well but at least we know how they will play .

I agree with others that khurram will be like Shezhad. Shezhad has a great strike rate in domestic cricket. In the 90s if you take out his odi stats
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those who are saying he is the same as Shehzad are factually wrong.
Shehzad never had such hig strike rate in a whole tournament, he had around 100 at best.
Khurram had the strike rate of 135 in the last Pakistan cup, Shehzad had 100 odd.
Even in the current Pakistan cup, Khurram has the highest strike rate right now among the top scorers, 133.
I think people have just made up their minds without the factual knowledge and watching the matches where he scored.

The most aggressive players in this tournament so far are Yamin 108 runs at the SR of 145, then Khurram 203 runs at the SR of 133. Both were ignored by selectors who cry about our 80s brand of cricket and keep selecting tuk tuks and garbage like Umar Akmal.
 
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