Should Polygamy be legalized as well?

[uberkoen]

So, after the legalisation of homosexual marriage in the U.S (Other Western countries had already legalized this a while back) and with all this focus on the human right of marriage equality

Do you think the fight ends with same-sex marriage?

What are your opinions on legalizing consensual adult polygamy?

The legalisation of homosexual marriages in the U.S is backed by the notion that he definition of marriage is plastic and just like heterosexual marriage is no better or worse than homosexual marriage, marriage between two consenting adults is not inherently more or less “correct” than marriage among three (or four, or six) consenting adults. Would you agree?

 

[Liberty]

If all parties are consenting then why should the state apparatus intervene in each individuals natural right to decide who they want to share their bodies with and the number of consenting individuals in any particular arrangement. In my opinion, it is an extension, if not progression of what has currently been "legalized".

 

[Lords]

Though there is no connection between gay marrige and polygamy but just for the sake of it and to be fair if you are going to allow polygamy then also allow polyandry

 

[PCP_1]

Any vice law is a religious law and should not exist in a secular soceity.

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

I think polygamy, incest, beastality. All should be allowed. Because they come under the umbrella of universal love. Why would i judge anyone if they love their sister or their dog or more than 1 woman?

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

I find it hilarious when the same people speak against incest or polygamy when they use the tag of universal love for gay marriage.

 

[shaykh]

With incest there are issues of a power dynamic...

If a brother and sister wanna get married then I don't see the problem...if it's a mother and son then it's questionable...you have questions of grooming etc...

With polygamy there is absolutely no issue at all...it should be legal...Muslims are ahead on that one...

Polyandry then should also be an option...

The issue surrounding the legality of bestiality is one of consent...how can you marry an animal when you have no way of determining whether the animal agrees to the union ...

 

[PCP_1]

With incest there are issues of a power dynamic...

If a brother and sister wanna get married then I don't see the problem...if it's a mother and son then it's questionable...you have questions of grooming etc...

With polygamy there is absolutely no issue at all...it should be legal...Muslims are ahead on that one...

Polyandry then should also be an option...

The issue surrounding the legality of bestiality is one of consent...how can you marry an animal when you have no way of determining whether the animal agrees to the union ...

Muslims are ahead in polygamy if we just take males into consideration.

Also with beatiality we can look for little gestures, like the dog wagging its tail, cat purring etc for consent.

 

[Deosai]

Why can't people just be content with heterosexual monogamous marriage.

 

[PCP_1]

Why can't people just be content with heterosexual monogamous marriage.

The same reason people weren't content with just inventing the wheel.

 

[Madplayer]

Why can't people just be content with heterosexual monogamous marriage.

Because forbidden fruit is the sweetest. Even if its rotten.

 

[Deosai]

On a second though, I think polygamy could be legalized in countries where females outnumber males by a large margin and in countries where the male-to-female ratio is skewed more towards men, then polygamy should be outlawed.

 

[PCP_1]

Because forbidden fruit is the sweetest. Even if its rotten.

Well, thats subjective.

 

[11ShadyBrothers]

With incest there are issues of a power dynamic...

If a brother and sister wanna get married then I don't see the problem...if it's a mother and son then it's questionable...you have questions of grooming etc...

With polygamy there is absolutely no issue at all...it should be legal...Muslims are ahead on that one...

Polyandry then should also be an option...

The issue surrounding the legality of bestiality is one of consent...how can you marry an animal when you have no way of determining whether the animal agrees to the union ...

If mother and son love each how are we to question their 'universal love'?

Polyandry alongwith polygamy should be legal if its between consenting partners.

I say everything related to sex should be legal if its consensual because who we are to question universal love? You can bang your darn plant if you wish so. Who we are to judge?

 

[Saqs]

One downside the government may see from legalising this is the amount of false cases that will turn up for the purposes of seeking immigration visas etc. It may open the floodgates of a whole lot of headaches.

 

[uberkoen]

On a second though, I think polygamy could be legalized in countries where females outnumber males by a large margin and in countries where the male-to-female ratio is skewed more towards men, then polygamy should be outlawed.

Why is that? Along with polygamy, Polyandry would also be legalized which would allow females to have more than one husband as well and so it could work in both situations.

 

[Deosai]

Why is that? Along with polygamy, Polyandry would also be legalized which would allow females to have more than one husband as well and so it could work in both situations.

while we're at it, lets also legalize inter-species marriage

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Any vice law is a religious law and should not exist in a secular soceity.

Does that mean there is no secular state in the world today? How about Greenland where the eskimos live? Might be less chance of vice laws there I reckon.

 

[Thivagar]

One downside the government may see from legalising this is the amount of false cases that will turn up for the purposes of seeking immigration visas etc. It may open the floodgates of a whole lot of headaches.

This.

 

[JaDed]

I think its a fair analogy as its with "consent".So Polyandry as already mentioned can also be legalized.

 

[PCP_1]

Does that mean there is no secular state in the world today? How about Greenland where the eskimos live? Might be less chance of vice laws there I reckon.

I doubt that the Eskimo really care about this. They're probably busy inventing a 100 new words for ice.

 

[Laal]

As long as its between consenting adults it should be legalized.

 

[Madplayer]

Well, thats subjective.

Lots of things about the topic at hand are.

 

[Fallen King]

As long as its between consenting adults it should be legalized.

That. This is extremely important. When i read facebook the comments of members in relating to the widespread of the celebrating of homosexuality, the first thing people asked is for the approval of pedophile practice scared the crap out of me, and majority supported that - the very same were waging its wars against homosexual people.

I pray it doesn't come to this. What a time has come!

 

[srh]

slippery slope

 

[Lurker_Ind]

If 2 consenting adults want to marry, they should. Who cares if they are into men or women? Everyone deserves happiness

None of our business. Its their private lives.

People equating same sex marriage to incest or Pedophile is ridiculous. Incest can cause mentally challenged kids. Hence should be outlawed. No explanation needed for Pedophile cases.

 

[MenInG]

Utah's state Senate has voted unanimously to decriminalise polygamy among consenting adults.

Under current laws, anyone found to have multiple spouses could face up to five years in prison.

Proponents of the bill argue it would remove the secrecy surrounding communities which practise polygamy and allow victims to report abuse. But critics warn it could empower abusers.

The bill still needs to be approved by the state's House of Representatives.

Under the proposal, having more than one spouse - or bigamy - would be considered a misdemeanour, on a par with a traffic violation.

Mores serious crimes, such as coerced bigamy, would be treated as a felony.

About 30,000 people are thought to live in polygamous communities in Utah, according to the Associated Press.

The state is home to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, also known as the Mormon Church, which accepted polygamy in its early history before banning it in 1890.

Mormon founder 'had up to 40 wives'
It now excommunicates anyone who practises polygamy but a number of fundamentalist Mormon offshoots continue to do so.

While plural marriage is illegal under Utah's constitution, officials in the state have largely chosen not to prosecute those involved.

In 2001, polygamist Tom Green became the first man to be convicted of bigamy in more than half a century over his marriage to five women. He was later also sentenced for child rape after one of his wives became pregnant when she was 13 years old.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51562737

 

[Ronaldo7]

why is polygamy a problem for those who agree with homosexuality?

Unless the first wife doesn't allow it, i don't see a problem with this one

 

[KingKhanWC]

Mormon founder 'had up to 40 wives'

This is just greed.

How can he remember all their names?

But yes it should be legal, why not?

 

[minamino]

No, it should not be. I have experience of someone close to me marrying twice and there is no reason it should be legalized.

 

[Ronaldo7]

No, it should not be. I have experience of someone close to me marrying twice and there is no reason it should be legalized.

what about homosexuality?

 

[JaDed]

why is polygamy a problem for those who agree with homosexuality?

Unless the first wife doesn't allow it, i don't see a problem with this one

What’s common between polygamy and homosexuality?

Monogamy, Polygamy
—-
Heterosexuality, homosexuality

 

[Ronaldo7]

What’s common between polygamy and homosexuality?

Monogamy, Polygamy
—-
Heterosexuality, homosexuality

Homosexuality is a lot worse than Polygamy in my view and as we're talking about the first wife/husband agreeing, then what is the problem?

 

[sweep_shot]

It shouldn't be illegal. If someone can afford to marry multiple times and wives are fine with it, it should be legal.

 

[from_da_lost_dim3nsion]

I am all for it . What 1,2,3 or 4 consenting adults do in their bedroom should not be anybody's concern . Thing is that western economy does give significant tax breaks to married people . they'll have to write a new tax law to to accommodate for more than 2 people getting married. Maybe cap saving or something .

 

[Bigboii]

Only thing that gov should be intefering in is cousin marriage cause of the health problems other than that gov has no right to interfere in people's business

 

[Local.Dada]

Even it were legal who in their right mind would want multiple wives

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

yes its not the government's business what consenting adults do. However if polygamy is legal so should polyandry.

 

[sweep_shot]

Even it were legal who in their right mind would want multiple wives

I would love to have multiple beautiful wives but it is kind of financially unsustainable. Also, women nowadays have too much demands.

 

[Thomaskutty]

Unless the first wife doesn't allow it, i don't see a problem with this one

Why would any wife agree to it and have no problem with it? The only way she'll agree to it is through emotional manipulation, subtle threats of leaving her etc.. while pretending she is fine with it.

Anyone who advocates for polygamy here is basically a pervert and just revealing their fantasies.

 

[Itachi]

Homosexuality is a lot worse than Polygamy in my view and as we're talking about the first wife/husband agreeing, then what is the problem?

This "agreeing" could be forced upon. Sometimes agreeing can only be the option.

 

[hafeezrocks]

Why would any wife agree to it and have no problem with it? The only way she'll agree to it is through emotional manipulation, subtle threats of leaving her etc.. while pretending she is fine with it.

Anyone who advocates for polygamy here is basically a pervert and just revealing their fantasies.

And anyone who advocates for Homosexual relations and gay marriage is a deviant sicko who fantasizes about sticking it up in weird places.

 

[JaDed]

It shouldn't be illegal. If someone can afford to marry multiple times and wives are fine with it, it should be legal.

Hmm , so you would be ok if your wife ever says she wants another husband?

 

[CricketCartoons]

Hmm , so you would be ok if your wife ever says she wants another husband?

Both polygamy and polyandry should be legal. Not the business of the state what form of relationships consenting adults have.

 

[sweep_shot]

Hmm , so you would be ok if your wife ever says she wants another husband?

Woman can't handle multiple men but men can handle multiple women. Simple.

Women can act tough all they want but they have certain limitations set by God.

Both men and women should understand and accept where they belong.

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Why would any wife agree to it and have no problem with it? The only way she'll agree to it is through emotional manipulation, subtle threats of leaving her etc.. while pretending she is fine with it.

Anyone who advocates for polygamy here is basically a pervert and just revealing their fantasies.

some women would rather be a second wife to a rich man than being the only wife of a guy working at a gas station.

some women would rather be a second wife to someone who looks like Hritish roshan rather than be the only wife of someone who looks like Johnny Lever.

As for why the first wife would agree, well you can ask before you marry her if she fine with you taking a second wife. In the Nikkahnama if you don't want your husband to be allowed a second wife you can remove that right.


As for the threatening to leave her, well a man has a right to end the marriage if he wants. Same right a women does. There is no shame or stigma in divorce. So a first wife might want to stay married for the $$$$.

 

[minamino]

Why would any self respecting woman allow her husband to marry someone else?

 

[Thomaskutty]

And anyone who advocates for Homosexual relations and gay marriage is a deviant sicko who fantasizes about sticking it up in weird places.

There is a difference between advocating for gay marriage (which I oppose) and actually criminalising homosexuality, the latter is a private consensual relationship that is nobody's business, not yours or mine or the government's.

 

[Rafa]

Why would any self respecting woman allow her husband to marry someone else?

Okay lets legalize it for non-self respecting women then who may have no problems with it.

No self respecting women should be selling her body for financial gains but a lot of women do it and its legal.

Why are you so insecure ? Are you a woman whose afraid that her Husband would bring another wife ?

 

[liam26]

Lol Look at these confused leftists/liberals, they prefer to justify everything under the sun by playing the "consenting adults " card however they have a problem with people marrying two or more partners with mutual consent of all parties.

Ideally, Marriage should only be a traditional Union between One Man and One Woman but now since you have have thrown Gay, Lesbian, Tranny, Gender Fluid and every other abnormality into the mix then whats the problem if some people prefer to have multiple wives or husbands ? Dont try to pick and choose between what you think is better for the society, lets consenting adults decide for themselves as you have been proudly advocating.

 

[Itachi]

Woman can't handle multiple men but men can handle multiple women. Simple.

Women can act tough all they want but they have certain limitations set by God.

Both men and women should understand and accept where they belong.

Its actually opposite biologically speaking.

Women can handle multiple peak moments whilst men can have only one within a short time period and if he could achieve it, then he's a rare breed.

In the construction of human body as built by nature, your assumptions are factually wrong.

 

[sweep_shot]

Its actually opposite biologically speaking.

Women can handle multiple peak moments whilst men can have only one within a short time period and if he could achieve it, then he's a rare breed.

In the construction of human body as built by nature, your assumptions are factually wrong.

I didn't mean it that way.

I meant like women are unlikely to handle multiple men in terms of getting along and other stuffs. Women are very emotional as we all know (with occasional exceptions).

 

[Nikhil_cric]

If polygamy is acceptable, then so should polyandry. Can't support one and then reject the other.

 

[JaDed]

Woman can't handle multiple men but men can handle multiple women. Simple.

Women can act tough all they want but they have certain limitations set by God.

Both men and women should understand and accept where they belong.

Well what if husband agrees, then you have no issue as you said in your post about polygamy.. so similar in this case as well..?

 

[Ronaldo7]

Why would any wife agree to it and have no problem with it? The only way she'll agree to it is through emotional manipulation, subtle threats of leaving her etc.. while pretending she is fine with it.

Anyone who advocates for polygamy here is basically a pervert and just revealing their fantasies.

And anyone who advocates for gay marriage just wants one up?
huh?

And anyone who advocates for trans people wants their d**k cut off?#

what an idiotic thing to say

was expected from a guy named kutty

 

[Ronaldo7]

People need to accept men and women are different.

A woman can't handle 4 men but a man can handle 4 women.
Those are just the facts

You can b-ch about it all you want but that won't change the reality

 

[Ronaldo7]

People need to accept men and women are different.

A woman can't handle 4 men but a man can handle 4 women.
Those are just the facts

You can b-ch about it all you want but that won't change the reality

Having said that, if the husband agrees then who gives a s-t.
Let your wife have 4 husbands.

 

[Local.Dada]

There is some serious misogyny in this thread.

Unless you live in some remote village or you are stuck in some medieval role play, those days of women just being treated as war loot or sitting in a corner and cooking and raising kids is over.

Marriage is a 50-50 partnership between man and a woman not a stamp collection where a guy collects multiple women.

I think people who are dreaming of multiple beautiful wives have probably gotten that from some internet fantasies if you get what I mean. Marriage is lot more than just what happens at night.

Unbelievable that some of the folk live in western democracies

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

People need to accept men and women are different.

A woman can't handle 4 men but a man can handle 4 women.
Those are just the facts

You can b-ch about it all you want but that won't change the reality

Why can't a woman handle 4 men?

 

[Ronaldo7]

Why can't a woman handle 4 men?

one of the major factors is that a woman cannot have 4 kids at the same time from different men
While a man can have a kid with 4 wives at the same time.

If you understand what i mean.

There would be some logistic problems

but as i said before, if the husband allows it then who am i to judge

i'm neither gonna have 4 wives neither is my wife gonna have 4 husbands so it doesn't really matter to me tbh

 

[Bigboii]

one of the major factors is that a woman cannot have 4 kids at the same time from different men
While a man can have a kid with 4 wives at the same time.

If you understand what i mean.

There would be some logistic problems

but as i said before, if the husband allows it then who am i to judge

i'm neither gonna have 4 wives neither is my wife gonna have 4 husbands so it doesn't really matter to me tbh

Yeah if they are adults and are not hurting anyone, gov shouldn't interfere in anyone's buisnes no matter how freaky everything sounds

 

[Local.Dada]

Yeah if they are adults and are not hurting anyone, gov shouldn't interfere in anyone's buisnes no matter how freaky everything sounds

Where does one draw the line here when it comes to the so called “freaky” stuff you are referring too?

Such freaky stuff goes on behind a lot of closed doors but marriage is regulated by the government/constitution and comes with a lot of legalities.

Polygamy is no different from child marriage and other crap that happens.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

one of the major factors is that a woman cannot have 4 kids at the same time from different men
While a man can have a kid with 4 wives at the same time.

If you understand what i mean.

There would be some logistic problems

but as i said before, if the husband allows it then who am i to judge

i'm neither gonna have 4 wives neither is my wife gonna have 4 husbands so it doesn't really matter to me tbh

Yes, but in the modern world, many people choose not to get married, let along have kids, so from that aspect a woman could have as many partners as she wants. She could even include a few women in there to stay on trend.

 

[Bigboii]

Where does one draw the line here when it comes to the so called “freaky” stuff you are referring too?

Such freaky stuff goes on behind a lot of closed doors but marriage is regulated by the government/constitution and comes with a lot of legalities.

Polygamy is no different from child marriage and other crap that happens.

Marriage shouldn't be regulated that's my point as long as people are adults and there are no health problems (like inbreeding) everything is fine it's society and person's choice in what they want thier relationships should be like

 

[Ronaldo7]

Where does one draw the line here when it comes to the so called “freaky” stuff you are referring too?

Such freaky stuff goes on behind a lot of closed doors but marriage is regulated by the government/constitution and comes with a lot of legalities.

Polygamy is no different from child marriage and other crap that happens.

how is polygamy similar to child marriage?

bruv, you're giving me autism with these b-s comparisons

 

[Local.Dada]

how t-f is polygamy similar to child marriage?

bruv, you're giving me autism with these b-s comparisons

Same as in a medieval and outdated practice that has no place in the modern society.

As far as giving someone autism, do you even know what it means?

 

[Ronaldo7]

Same as in a medieval and outdated practice that has no place in the modern society.

As far as giving someone autism, do you even know what it means?

so let me get this straight, you think homosexuality should be allowed but not polygamy?

 

[Bigboii]

so let me get this straight, you think homosexuality should be allowed but not polygamy?

Technically speaking homosexuality is also a very old idea from Spartans,Greeks, roman so should it be not allowed either cause it's archaic (I just hate how this guy picking and choosing stuff that he agrees with without actually providing logical explanation)

 

[Local.Dada]

so let me get this straight, you think homosexuality should be allowed but not polygamy?

I have no opinions on homosexuality. If there is concrete scientific evidence and not just some ancient mumbo jumbo I can see why it is allowed. Also the arguments against it seem to be that it is a sexual perversion and the arguments for it seem to be science based that it is a natural process. I don’t understand it from either sides both as a perversion or from the science behind it, so I will not comment.

As far as Polygamy goes if you have a perversion of wanting multiple partners then there are ways to accomplish the desired without having to actually marry.

Can you imagine how much immigration fraud can happen if this were allowed? What is stopping a guy or gal to have a business arrangement and take on 10 spouses just to get them a visa?


Anyway it’s a dumb argument that has no place in 2020 or when you are living in a modern democracy.

 

[Itachi]

how is polygamy similar to child marriage?

bruv, you're giving me autism with these b-s comparisons

Should bestiality be allowed when the animal in concern and the person both wants it? It is legalized in many states but should it be promoted since human is a social animal at the end of the day.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Technically speaking homosexuality is also a very old idea from Spartans,Greeks, roman so should it be not allowed either cause it's archaic (I just hate how this guy picking and choosing stuff that he agrees with without actually providing logical explanation)

This is true.
It was especially prevalent in Ancient Greece

 

[Ronaldo7]

Should bestiality be allowed when the animal in concern and the person both wants it? It is legalized in many states but should it be promoted since human is a social animal at the end of the day.

Firstly, the animal can't talk so we can't agree ask for its consent. You can ask for consent in humans but not animals

Secondly, that is not we are discussing here

 

[jnaveen1980]

If more women talk about having multiple husbands this topic will go in the opposite direction lol.

 

[Itachi]

Firstly, the animal can't talk so we can't agree ask for its consent. You can ask for consent in humans but not animals

Secondly, that is not we are discussing here

That's a flawed argument. How do you take consent from a mute person?

 

[Bigboii]

That's a flawed argument. How do you take consent from a mute person?

You can only ask grown adults thier consent that's why animals and minors are not included when someone is talking about "consent" that's why underage sex is rape cause they can't cons(stop tuisting the damn argument)

 

[DeadBall]

I didn't mean it that way.

I meant like women are unlikely to handle multiple men in terms of getting along and other stuffs. Women are very emotional as we all know (with occasional exceptions).

You seem to have an exceptional amount of information about women for someone who has never intimately been with one.

 

[Ronaldo7]

That's a flawed argument. How do you take consent from a mute person?

I’m sure a mute person knows sign language so they can use that to communicate

If they are mute and don’t have any way of communicating then obviously they shouldn’t be getting married

 

[James]

Both polygamy and polyandry should be legal. Not the business of the state what form of relationships consenting adults have.

Yep....agree.

Speaking just on my own behalf, I wouldn’t wish to be one of several husbands to the same wife - in fact both polygamy and polyandry strike me as very odd ideas personally - but if consenting adults want to construct their relationship in such a way, and they are entirely comfortable with the rules being more open, then it’s really up to them.

 

[JaDed]

Yep....agree.

Speaking just on my own behalf, I wouldn’t wish to be one of several husbands to the same wife - in fact both polygamy and polyandry strike me as very odd ideas personally - but if consenting adults want to construct their relationship in such a way, and they are entirely comfortable with the rules being more open, then it’s really up to them.

Thing is they can be in multiple relationships -Polyamorous, just not married, how would you tax em?
I think it’s going to be a legal struggle in such cases.

 

[CricketCartoons]

Yep....agree.

Speaking just on my own behalf, I wouldn’t wish to be one of several husbands to the same wife - in fact both polygamy and polyandry strike me as very odd ideas personally - but if consenting adults want to construct their relationship in such a way, and they are entirely comfortable with the rules being more open, then it’s really up to them.

I would like to be one of the few husbands of the same wife. Being a single husband puts too much pressure in providing for the wife's never ending demands. Also a good solution for love triangles.