Should Polygamy be legalized as well?

[sweep_shot]

Well what if husband agrees, then you have no issue as you said in your post about polygamy.. so similar in this case as well..?

Women having multiple husbands is like Chris Martin scoring a Test century. It just doesn't make sense.

Take off your feminism glass and look at the reality.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Women having multiple husbands is like Chris Martin scoring a Test century. It just doesn't make sense.

Take off your feminism glass and look at the reality.

People just don’t want to accept the fact that men and women are different.

All this feminism is annoying

 

[JaDed]

Women having multiple husbands is like Chris Martin scoring a Test century. It just doesn't make sense.

Take off your feminism glass and look at the reality.

Nothing about feminism here ,just asking your opinion about consent, which you were ok with if wife allowed, just asking in same situation if husband allows..

 

[Bigboii]

Thing is they can be in multiple relationships -Polyamorous, just not married, how would you tax em?
I think it’s going to be a legal struggle in such cases.

I think you can only tax married couples as one, other than that they just file individual taxes so I don't think this should be a big deal and all of the people who are married can file taxes with their kids as one unit(depending on if they live in the same house)

 

[Thomaskutty]

As for why the first wife would agree, well you can ask before you marry her if she fine with you taking a second wife. In the Nikkahnama if you don't want your husband to be allowed a second wife you can remove that right.

Say for instance, your daughter is about to marry someone who says at the nikkahnama he'll take 3 more wives later and she agrees, would you agree to it or think the guy is a creep ?

 

[Thomaskutty]

Say for instance, your daughter is about to marry someone who says at the nikkahnama he'll take 3 more wives later and she agrees, would you agree to it or think the guy is a creep ?

Same question to other polygamy supporters on the thread like [MENTION=149383]Ronaldo7[/MENTION] [MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

 

[sweep_shot]

Same question to other polygamy supporters on the thread like [MENTION=149383]Ronaldo7[/MENTION] [MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

If wife says yes then yes!

If you are a straight male and you are not fine with polygamy, something is wrong with you.

 

[James]

I would like to be one of the few husbands of the same wife. Being a single husband puts too much pressure in providing for the wife's never ending demands. Also a good solution for love triangles.

I can’t imagine you alone struggling to satisfy your wife’s wants and needs, [MENTION=136588]CricketCartoons[/MENTION]. I imagine that you regularly exceed her expectations.

In my case I would say that I meet the expectations most of the time, with an occasional exceed.

 

[Bigboii]

If wife says yes then yes!

If you are a straight male and you are not fine with polygamy, something is wrong with you.

Not everything is about sex dude, palgamyist relationships are almost always never good and life just becomes painful cause no man or woman want thier partner to be in a relationship with another partner, that's just human nature and it creates jealousy in the household.
I support people's right to be in palgamyist relationship but saying that someone is not straight if he doesn't support palgamyist relationship is OTT tbh

 

[sweep_shot]

Not everything is about sex dude, palgamyist relationships are almost always never good and life just becomes painful cause no man or woman want thier partner to be in a relationship with another partner, that's just human nature and it creates jealousy in the household.
I support people's right to be in palgamyist relationship but saying that someone is not straight if he doesn't support palgamyist relationship is OTT tbh

Yeah. Of course!

Accepting polygamy and declining polygamy both should be fine. Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly.

 

[Itachi]

If wife says yes then yes!

If you are a straight male and you are not fine with polygamy, something is wrong with you.

I'll state the opposite.

One gf is too hard to handle.

One wife will be much harder.

Multiple wives will be impossible. All there is, there will be closet cheating right and left in the facade i.e. Polygamy.

 

[Ronaldo7]

Same question to other polygamy supporters on the thread like [MENTION=149383]Ronaldo7[/MENTION] [MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

Firstly, i don’t think you can have marry 3 women at the same time as you don’t know whether you can financially support them equally. So you marry only one at first.

Secondly, it would be my hypothetical daughter’s choice if she allows her husband to have a second wife later in her marriage then who am i to criticise her?

Also have you never wondered why Islam doesn’t allow more than 4 wives at one time?
You’re so quick to criticise islam but you missed this point.

If the motive was just to have pleasure, why does islam ban marrying more than 4 at one time?

 

[Ronaldo7]

I'll state the opposite.

One gf is too hard to handle.

One wife will be much harder.

Multiple wives will be impossible. All there is, there will be closet cheating right and left in the facade i.e. Polygamy.

That’s your opinion not a universal fact

 

[Itachi]

That’s your opinion not a universal fact

Ask the married people here. I am sure they will agree.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Same question to other polygamy supporters on the thread like [MENTION=149383]Ronaldo7[/MENTION] [MENTION=141306]sweep_shot[/MENTION] [MENTION=43583]KingKhanWC[/MENTION]

It would be up to my daughter. It may be normal for you decide what women do but in my household women are the rulers, the queens, they decide and we support.

 

[minamino]

I wouldn’t let my son in law marry another woman whilst he’s married to my daughter. I hate polygamy, I would rather never have a daughter than having a son in law who marries twice.

 

[Thomaskutty]

It would be up to my daughter. It may be normal for you decide what women do but in my household women are the rulers, the queens, they decide and we support.

Here's what I would do .. criticise my daughter and advise her to file for divorce from Mr.Creepy and get the hell out of there. Obviously the decision is solely hers but I would let her know my opinion. As would most nomal fathers.

But if you're pretty content with her being used like an object with 3 other women, well then that's your thing.

 

[Pakistanian]

In a free secular society all consenting adults should be able to do what they want. Marriage in the west is essentially a government sanctioned contract and like any contract it should be pliable and anybody and any number of people should be able to enter the contract. In Utah they're already considering legalizing polygamy cause of the huge Mormon community however I support this entirely from a libertarian/classical liberal perspective.

I personally am not a fan of polygamy and believe in strict monogamy but that's personal and personal views shouldn't be imposed on other or dictate public policy.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/utah-lawmakers-seek-to-decriminalize-polygamy-11582239510

 

[Ronaldo7]

Ask the married people here. I am sure they will agree.

There are quite a few men with multiple wives so they probably don’t agree

 

[Gharib Aadmi]

Say for instance, your daughter is about to marry someone who says at the nikkahnama he'll take 3 more wives later and she agrees, would you agree to it or think the guy is a creep ?

It would be my daughters decision. My concern would be his financial status. If he could afford it and my daughter was fine with it i would have no problem.

With that said i prefer monogamy but i feel consenting adults should do what they want.

 

[Itachi]

There are quite a few men with multiple wives so they probably don’t agree

Look at the interviews of those wives.... That ain't a marriage. That's an institution where they are afraid to come out due to years of oppression which has destroyed their self confidence to break a marriage.

 

[ahmedzee]

I would like to be one of the few husbands of the same wife. Being a single husband puts too much pressure in providing for the wife's never ending demands. Also a good solution for love triangles.

Oh wow!
Well may I suggest that if polyandry isn't legal, who cares. You can still marry a wife and be a cuckold. It should give you the same feeling of pride that your wife has multiple partners isn't it? Definitely a great solution for love triangle. What do you think?

 

[Ronaldo7]

Look at the interviews of those wives.... That ain't a marriage. That's an institution where they are afraid to come out due to years of oppression which has destroyed their self confidence to break a marriage.

That can be with any single marriage. Not a polygamy only risk.

Also, No one forced them to marry.
it was their choice so they knew the

 

[hafeezrocks]

I wouldn’t let my son in law marry another woman whilst he’s married to my daughter. I hate polygamy, I would rather never have a daughter than having a son in law who marries twice.

As if you are Bada Vladimir Putin who can make his son in law dance to his tunes. How can you stop it? Abduct him, kill him or capture him in Chains during the wedding day? If Miya, Biwi agree you can do nothing.

 

[andy0204]

If Iam financial healthy and my wife agrees then I have no problem to have 2 wives.

 

[liam26]

Look at this Stud with 5 Wives, looks like a Happy Family to me. What kind of Sick Bigot would oppose such a lovely union of Six people.

If anyone thinks he cannot afford more than one woman then its upto him. Marry one woman or dont marry at all, remain single, die alone who cares ? Just because you are incapable of something doesnt mean every other man is the same. Or maybe its the jealousy that since I cannot afford to have more than one wife, I would oppose another mans right from seeking it.

 

[OMB]

Outcry over South Africa's multiple husbands proposal

A proposal by the South African government to legalise polyandry - when a woman has more than one husband at the same time - has led to howls of protest from conservative quarters.

This does not surprise Professor Collis Machoko, a renowned academic on the topic.

The objections are "about control," he told the BBC. "African societies are not ready for true equality. We don't know what to do with women we cannot control."

South Africa has one of the world's most liberal constitutions, embracing same-sex marriages for all and polygamy for men.

Businessman and TV personality Musa Mseleku - who has four wives - is among those opposed to polyandry.

"This will destroy African culture. What about the children of those people? How will they know their identity?" asks Mr Mseleku, who stars in a South African reality TV show about his polygamous family.

"The woman cannot now take the role of the man. It's unheard of. Will the woman now pay lobola [bride price] for the man. Will the man be expected to take her surname?"

Secret unions
Prof Machoko researched polyandry in his country of birth - neighbouring Zimbabwe. He spoke to 20 women and 45 co-husbands who practised it, even though such marriages are socially taboo and not legally recognised.

"Polyandry, because it is shunned by parts of society, has been forced underground. The secrecy is similar to the one found in freemasons," he said.

"When confronted by somebody whom they do not trust or do not know, they even deny that such a marriage exists. All this is because of fear of reprisals and persecution."

The participants in Prof Machoko's study all lived separately but were committed to the polyandrous union and were open about it among themselves.

"One wife nourished the idea of wanting to be a polyandrous woman when she was in grade six [aged around 12 years] after learning about how the queen bee in a hive hosts many bee co-husbands," the professor said.

When she was an adult she started having sex with multiple partners who were all aware of each other.

"Four of her current nine co-husbands were in that first group of boyfriends."

In polyandry, the woman often initiates the relationships, and invites the husbands to join her union. Some pay the bride price, others opt to contribute to her livelihood. She has the power to remove a co-husband if she believes he is destabilising her other relationships.

Prof Machoko said love was the main reason the men he interviewed said they had agreed to be co-husbands. They did not want to risk losing their wife.

Some men also referred to the fact that they did not satisfy their wives sexually, agreeing to the suggestion of a co-husband to avoid divorce or affairs.

Another reason was infertility - some men consented to the wife taking another husband so that she could have children. In this way, the men "saved face" in public and avoided being stigmatised as "emasculated".

Clerics upset
Prof Machoko said he was unaware of polyandrous marriages in South Africa. Nevertheless, gender rights activists have asked the government to legalise such unions in the interest of equality and choice, as the law currently permits a man to take more than one wife.

Women's Legal Centre
We cannot reject law reform because it challenges certain patriarchal views in our society"
Charlene May

Their proposal has been included in a document - officially known as a Green Paper - that the government has released for public comment as it embarks on the biggest overhaul of marriage laws since white-minority rule ended in 1994.

"It's important to remember that this Green Paper sets to uphold human rights and we cannot lose sight of that," said Charlene May, an advocate at the Women's Legal Centre, a law firm that fights for women's rights.

"We cannot reject law reform because it challenges certain patriarchal views in our society."

The document also proposes giving legal recognition to Muslim, Hindu, Jewish and Rastafarian marriages.

While this has been largely welcomed by the communities concerned, the proposal to legalise polyandry has been condemned by clerics who hold seats in parliament.

The leader of the opposition African Christian Democratic Party (ACDP), Reverend Kenneth Meshoe, said it would "destroy society".

"There will come a time when one of the men will say, 'You spend most of the time with that man and not with me' - and there will be conflict between the two men," he added.

For his part, the leader of the Islamic Al-Jamah party, Ganief Hendricks, said: "You can imagine when a child is born, more DNA tests will be needed to discover who the father is."

'Children of the family'
As for Mr Mseleku, he urged South Africans not to take the principle of equality "too far".

"Just because something is in the constitution that does not mean it will be good for us."

Asked why it should be any different for women, given he had four wives, he replied: "I've been called a hypocrite because of my marriages but I'd rather speak now than be silent.

"All I can say it that this is un-African. We cannot change who we are."

But Prof Machoko said polyandry was once practised in Kenya, the Democratic Republic of Congo and Nigeria, and it is still practised in Gabon, where the law allows it.

"With the arrival of Christianity and colonisation the role of the woman became diminished. They were no longer equal. Marriage became one of the tools used to establish hierarchy."

Prof Machoko said concerns about children born from a polyandrous union were rooted in patriarchy.

"The question of children is an easy one. Whatever children are born from that union are the children of the family."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-57548646

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

I wouldn't go into the legal aspect of polygamy. But from a personal point of view, polygamous marriages never bring peace to family lives. In most cases it absolutely destroys the first family in the house. A stranger coming into your house replacing your mother is probably one of the most humiliating & painful incidents you can face in your personal life.

 

[OMB]

I wouldn't go into the legal aspect of polygamy. But from a personal point of view, polygamous marriages never bring peace to family lives. In most cases it absolutely destroys the first family in the house. A stranger coming into your house replacing your mother is probably one of the most humiliating & painful incidents you can face in your personal life.

According to some posters, if the first wife (or the first husband) is ok with second marriage and further subsequent marriages, this then its not an issue.

 

[guna]

In an Islamic country, Polygamy must be allowed by default. It is halal according to the religion.

In a non-Islamic country, it should be banned. We already have severe shortage of women in most south asian countries.

 

[ishtiaq_ctg]

According to some posters, if the first wife (or the first husband) is ok with second marriage and further subsequent marriages, this then its not an issue.

You'll find only handful of women who will be ok with polygamy in the modern world. Children in the house would also despise the marriage in most cases. Husband would get to have some fresh actions with a new partner but at the cost of destroying the peace of the house & mentally destroying the first family.