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Should Shahid Afridi have mentioned Kashmir at the toss?

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Ironical Anurag Thakur is the one to say the guy has been spitting garbage from the day he got the job.

Also Lala has freedom of speech similar to next time or last time Bangladeshi players mention "Freedom fighter and Independence 1971" stuff ,we can merge the thread to get a better understanding.
 
b.lesner said:
i bet you Pakistani cricket team is more popoular in kashmir than in pakistan itselt not only me all my collage friends watch pakistan domestic cricket.
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I first heard about babar azam's talent almost 4-5 years ago from a friend of mine here. There was no mention of him on even PP then.
 
It's really a story about nothing.

Many Kashmiris do support Pakistan, maybe because they don't like the fact they are surrounded by one of the most complex heavily militarised zones in the World. Afridi just stated a truth that maybe bitter to swallow.

In any case it's just sport, why do some Indians get so sensitive about it ??

If Bangladeshis or Afghans support India over Pakistan I wouldn't care. It's not a war ffs.
 
sully3 said:
Maybe India has forgotten about their Kashmiris but we haven't
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Dont worry bro, Pakistan will never get an inch of Indian kashmir. .. Anyway now back to the topic I dont see any issue in what Afridi said here, what just cause ppl get offended he doesn't have a right to his opinion ????? Give me a break... Mashrafe Mortaza said he dedicated a win to the freedom fighters which shows bengalis have not forgotten for all the atrocities their people were subjected to... part of life move on stop the crying..
 
Feroz Rawther said:
Some people here are defending Afridi. but ... i have a doubt. On the same yard stick a Virat kohli fan was imprisoned in Pakistan for ten years or so for keeping Indian flag with him .Isn't it double standards?
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Don't know what happened to the poor chap. Punished to rot in jail for 10 years for raising an Indian flag at his home.
 
Tomorrow again huge support for Pakistan from Kashmir in stadium
 
Yatoo said:
Tomorrow again huge support for Pakistan from Kashmir in stadium
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And outside stadium i.e. in Kashmir. Even though people are disappointed with the performances of the team, still nobody misses a ball of a Pakistan match.
 
shaaik said:
No boy I know this coz I am a kashmiri.

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Yeah sure you are. Half Pakistanis are Kashmiris on forums. Surprisingly having met many Kashmiris I dont find this trend in real life
 
cricketjoshila said:
But Kashmiris have played for the Indian team.
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Many Indians and Pakistani have played for England,Australia, New Zealand, s.Africa etc.

If you're suggesting no Kashmiri has played for Pakistan then I can't neither confirm it or deny it.
 
Indiafan said:
Yeah sure you are. Half Pakistanis are Kashmiris on forums. Surprisingly having met many Kashmiris I dont find this trend in real life
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I really don't who kashmiris have you met in real life. Let me break it for you 99% of kashmiris support PCT may be you u hv met someone from that 1%.

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shaaik said:
I really don't who kashmiris have you met in real life. Let me break it for you 99% of kashmiris support PCT may be you u hv met someone from that 1%.

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People who have not visited Kashmir know more about it than the people who actual visit the place and talk more often to actual people of Kashmir. :)

The support was imagined in 65 and 99 too. Still some lessons are not learnt.
 
anakin said:
People who have not visited Kashmir know more about it than the people who actual visit the place and talk more often to actual people of Kashmir. :)

The support was imagined in 65 and 99 too. Still some lessons are not learnt.
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What lessons are you talking about if I may ask ?

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www787 said:
Many Indians and Pakistani have played for England,Australia, New Zealand, s.Africa etc.

If you're suggesting no Kashmiri has played for Pakistan then I can't neither confirm it or deny it.
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Add to that no Baloch has played for Pakistan either..
 
Well it's kind of like saying a lot of Muslim Indians are here to support Pakistan :)

It's totally different if an Indian Captain touring Australia says that they have a lot of support in the crowd thanks to expats.
 
shaaik said:
I really don't who kashmiris have you met in real life. Let me break it for you 99% of kashmiris support PCT may be you u hv met someone from that 1%.

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anakin said:
People who have not visited Kashmir know more about it than the people who actual visit the place and talk more often to actual people of Kashmir. :)

The support was imagined in 65 and 99 too. Still some lessons are not learnt.
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I know someone who has spoken to an Indian Army officer. He told him that the place where he was posted, there were Pak flags posted all over the place.
 
Fire Bird said:
I know someone who has spoken to an Indian Army officer. He told him that the place where he was posted, there were Pak flags posted all over the place.
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There are no 2 ways about it..like I said 99% of us support paksitan.

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Why not? It was evident that kashmiri fans were there to support pakistan.
 
CaptainPak said:
Well it's kind of like saying a lot of Muslim Indians are here to support Pakistan :)

It's totally different if an Indian Captain touring Australia says that they have a lot of support in the crowd thanks to expats.
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Kashmiri muslims is the right word.
 
street cricketer said:
Kashmiri muslims is the right word.
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I have heard Hyderabadi muslims support Pakistan back in the 90s. Don't know if it was because India sucked in the 90s and they needed to rally behind what they saw as their second team or they were just being anti-India. My childhood friend who is a muslim who is pro-India BTW once told me wouldnt it be funny if we held up a Pakistan flag during a Indo-Pak game. It would be nice if we held both India and Pakistan flags but I thought that was a little strange. You wouldn't see me hold a Nepal flag when India and Nepal play each other. Also a BD coworker who is a nice guy once told me BDeshis liek India more than Pak but he was supporting Pak in a match over Ind. Things get a bit murky when their religion is involved.
 
Feroz Rawther said:
this is why i called these absolute double standards. On one side a guy is jailed for 10 years for hoisting the national flag of a political rival country just as if he has committed a murder.
On the other side Afridi mentioned Kashmir support despite him being well aware of the
fact that Kashmir is such a sensitive issue between the 2 countries. Yet when some indians are criticising Afridi, here several PAK ppers are defending Afridi.

If this is double standard , then i don't know what to call it.


As with your other claims, you shall believe what ever you want. i am not going into details of that because of the sensitiveness of the issue though i thoroughly reject a lot of your claims.
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It is not hidden to anyone the way India has occupied and killed innocent people of Kashmir

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Deewana said:
It is not hidden to anyone the way India has occupied and killed innocent people of Kashmir

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And you are saying Pakistan Army and their pashtun "freedom fighters" in 1947 are nice guys here. Remember long before India made its move into Kashmir, Pakistan funded a Pashtun-heavy tribal fighters into Kashmir (which was then independent and neutral to both Ind and Pak) in 1947. They severely targeted the hindu and sikh communities for ethnic cleansing). Even then Nehru didnt react. Nehru deployed his forces only after the Kashmiri King fearing this threat signed to India. Not saying thats a good thing for Kashmir but dont tell me India is evil and Pakistan is the good guy here.
 
Fire Bird said:
I have heard Hyderabadi muslims support Pakistan back in the 90s. Don't know if it was because India sucked in the 90s and they needed to rally behind what they saw as their second team or they were just being anti-India. My childhood friend who is a muslim who is pro-India BTW once told me wouldnt it be funny if we held up a Pakistan flag during a Indo-Pak game. It would be nice if we held both India and Pakistan flags but I thought that was a little strange. You wouldn't see me hold a Nepal flag when India and Nepal play each other. Also a BD coworker who is a nice guy once told me BDeshis liek India more than Pak but he was supporting Pak in a match over Ind. Things get a bit murky when their religion is involved.
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Indian muslims supporting Pakistan are a minority.
 
Useless discussion going on in this thread. Should move it to TP section if this is the way posters want to discuss it.
 
Lot of support for pak I was in the stadium there were lot of chants jeetega Bhai jeetega Bhai pak jeetega and mostly kashmiris were present in the stand where I was sitting about 90 % were Kashmiris
 
Deewana said:
It is not hidden to anyone the way India has occupied and killed innocent people of Kashmir

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OOH.... what a feeling of sadness for the plight of people of Kashmir... Man... just read what 'Fire Bird' has messaged w.r.t the history of Kashmir.or google it.
Even after India & Pakistan got independence in 1947 ,Kashmir remained an
independent nation ruled by Hari singh. That means Kashmir's people had started to lead a peaceful , free life with out any problems or unrest in the
independent nation of Kashmir after the long periods of unrest and instability caused by British rule and partition in neighbouring India ,Pak etc. It was then that PAK army for some reasons attacked kasmir.

Now ... people like you are crying that Indian army killed innocent people in Kashmir and that KASMIR needs to be freed from India and made an independent nation to restore the normal life in Kasmir.but the irony is that Kashmir was an independent nation in 1947 at the first place till PAK
army invaded it and started the seeds of long term turmoil in the region.

So much for your claim of peaceful life and freedom for the people of Kasmir.
i would call it 'crocodile tears' at its very best.
 
Feroz Rawther said:
OOH.... what a feeling of sadness for the plight of people of Kashmir... Man... just read what 'Fire Bird' has messaged w.r.t the history of Kashmir.or google it.
Even after India & Pakistan got independence in 1947 ,Kashmir remained an
independent nation ruled by Hari singh. That means Kashmir's people had started to lead a peaceful , free life with out any problems or unrest in the
independent nation of Kashmir after the long periods of unrest and instability caused by British rule and partition in neighbouring India ,Pak etc. It was then that PAK army for some reasons attacked kasmir.

Now ... people like you are crying that Indian army killed innocent people in Kashmir and that KASMIR needs to be freed from India and made an independent nation to restore the normal life in Kasmir.but the irony is that Kashmir was an independent nation in 1947 at the first place till PAK
army invaded it and started the seeds of long term turmoil in the region.

So much for your claim of peaceful life and freedom for the people of Kasmir.
i would call it 'crocodile tears' at its very best.
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Ha ha ha .. I just don't know what to say to you .. do you even hv an idea what u r talking about buddy ???

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shaaik said:
Of course not. I was talking about J&k's population. I hope it helps to calm down now.

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Isn't this what we are talking about ??

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When Pakistan was apprehensive of touring India because of safety concern then why would you give such statement which are likely to stirr up/irk our nationalist groups.

As a captain, your job is to win matches on Field and be as politically correct as possible off it.
 
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I don't know why the Indians are getting so heated.

My friends from the Kashmir valley attended the game with their fellow Kashmiris in large numbers. I have pictoral evidence but obviously can't use on here without their permission.

Move on.
 
Non issue imo. Kashmiris can support whoever they want and apparently it makes no difference . The hearts of Kashmiris are not gonna win you matches against India Lala :) :srini
 
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Feroz Rawther said:
OOH.... what a feeling of sadness for the plight of people of Kashmir... Man... just read what 'Fire Bird' has messaged w.r.t the history of Kashmir.or google it.
Even after India & Pakistan got independence in 1947 ,Kashmir remained an
independent nation ruled by Hari singh. That means Kashmir's people had started to lead a peaceful , free life with out any problems or unrest in the
independent nation of Kashmir after the long periods of unrest and instability caused by British rule and partition in neighbouring India ,Pak etc. It was then that PAK army for some reasons attacked kasmir.

Now ... people like you are crying that Indian army killed innocent people in Kashmir and that KASMIR needs to be freed from India and made an independent nation to restore the normal life in Kasmir.but the irony is that Kashmir was an independent nation in 1947 at the first place till PAK
army invaded it and started the seeds of long term turmoil in the region.

So much for your claim of peaceful life and freedom for the people of Kasmir.
i would call it 'crocodile tears' at its very best.
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You are Pretty much clueless is what i can say.

Either that or Very convenient of you , good sir , to leave out facts like the stand still agreements which were signed with Pak . lol.
 
Wasim_Waqar said:
Well, there's one of my friends. Shaiik Dar from Srinagar! Nice to see you on here bro; it's green lantern here :)
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Hey wow... is it really you ?? I was think to invite you here on PP but glad u already here ..

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Madplayer said:
You are Pretty much clueless is what i can say.

Either that or Very convenient of you , good sir , to leave out facts like the stand still agreements which were signed with Pak . lol.
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from both your's and shaaik's comments i do not get any thing other than blind
emotion's like 'clueless', 'do you even hv an idea' etc etc. If you have idea about
'facts like the stand still agreements which were signed with Pak' then post them
 
He thanked Mohali crowd and Kashmir both.

Afridi is a hero.

Kashmiris, Punjabis, Gujratis, we all love you in unison.
 
Talks about Kashmir, talks about Kolkata, and then you are playing at Mohali where the crowd has been quite friendly it seems to the Pakistan team and no mention of them !
 
LOL he then has the audacity to thank BCCI right after Kashmir and he said "Kashmir" in such an accentuated way.

This guy clearly has no more f's to give

Love him
 
As a Lala fan, I feel let down that he didn't even mention the Mohali crowd for their support.

He must be under tremendous pressure to prove his loyalty to Pakistan. :(
 
Majid Khan said:
Talks about Kashmir, talks about Kolkata, and then you are playing at Mohali where the crowd has been quite friendly it seems to the Pakistan team and no mention of them !
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From what i noticed majority of local mohali Punjabi crowd was supporting nz and aus. Kashmiri on the other side traveled to Mohali to support Pak
 
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