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Shahid Afridi mentioned Kashmir whilst speaking to Ramiz Raja at the toss.

Should he have mentioned Kashmir?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Loud cheers from the crowd greet Shahid Afridi who smiles and says "There are a lot of people here for Kashmir as well" <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NZvPAK?src=hash">#NZvPAK</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/wt20?src=hash">#wt20</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/712272365267382273">March 22, 2016</a></blockquote>
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:)) Cue Pakistani fans who were hating on him for his Indian love statement queuing up to shower garlands on him now.

Afridi speaks whatever comes to his head and that's why some of us are fans of the guy.

Regarding his statement, he stated the facts:

Rameez: Seems you have fan following here in Mohali
Afridi: Yes, lot of people here from Kashmir as well and I want to thank the people in Calcutta, they really supported us.
 
simon619 said:
What did he say?
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cricket.mad said:
In what context did he mention it?
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Ramiz asked him about the large support for Pakistan in Mohali sinc ethe crowd was cheering when Ramiz mentioned Afridi's name.

Afridi responded by saying that the team has got great support in Mohali & a lot of people have also travelled down from Kashmir. He also went on to the say the team received great support in Kolkata....

.....however, I apparently have an agenda which I try to promote so you may wanna wait for someone else to verify these and/or correct these statements :msd
 
Don't thing there was anything in it to be honest. Pretty sure he meant "from Kashmir" too.
 
As far as guesses go (and this is a guess) I feel it was deliberate. His ham handed attempt to play to the galleries- Pakistani galleries this time.
 
Just trying to win the people and Media of Pakistan back after his "More love in India" comment ..
 
Just stated the fact.

Lots from occupied Kashmir are there cheering for Pak.
 
TalhaSyed said:
Ramiz asked him about the large support for Pakistan in Mohali sinc ethe crowd was cheering when Ramiz mentioned Afridi's name.

Afridi responded by saying that the team has got great support in Mohali & a lot of people have also travelled down from Kashmir. He also went on to the say the team received great support in Kolkata....

.....however, I apparently have an agenda which I try to promote so you may wanna wait for someone else to verify these and/or correct these statements :msd
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Am not sure what is wrong with those statements, yes Afridi is not always careful with his words but am not sure what's the error in what he said there
 
There are couple of people with placards saying "With Love from Kashimr" , "We are here for Afridi"...and posters here thought Kashimiri's came to support Pakistan team :)))
 
I saw a fan who had a sign that said they came from Kashmir to support Afridi. So Afridi was right when he pointed out that a lot of fans from occupied Kashmir are supporting Pakistan.
 
I remember people here going nuts when Mashrafee mentioned "Freedom fighters" lol.
 
Bakasura said:
There are couple of people with placards saying "With Love from Kashimr" , "We are here for Afridi"...and posters here thought Kashimiri's came to support Pakistan team :)))
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What country is Afridi from? Are you really going to deny that a lot of people from Kashmir support Pakistan's cricket team?
 
Professor said:
What country is Afridi from? Are you really going to deny that a lot of people from Kashmir support Pakistan's cricket team?
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You should hd and saying we came seen how Gayle is supported in Bangalore..here 2 people holding placard saying we came for afridi doesn't mean many kashmiris flown to Mohali to support Pakistan..
 
Now the Men in Green will be welcomed at the airport by the Qoum and result of the tournament will be forgotten.

Genius ploy by Lala.
 
When was the last time Afridi said something pre or post match and it wasn't the headline news? :13:

This guys surely knows how to remain in lime light :D
 
He said nothing wrong IMO.


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Eid for kashmir then.. Afridi is the most popular player here.
 
I don't get what the big deal is?

Making a mountain out of a mole hill.

Masala news stuff from PP
 
Why wouldn't? Kashmir is a Pakistani territory and part of Pakistan, it is nice to see a legend acknowledging the people of Pakistan in a country that is illegally occupying it.
 
People's champ. :)

Lala standing up for the Kashmiris who have been given a poor treatment by the Indians honestly.
 
www787 said:
Why wouldn't? Kashmir is a Pakistani territory and part of Pakistan, it is nice to see a legend acknowledging the people of Pakistan in a country that is illegally occupying it.
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But Kashmiris have played for the Indian team.
 
Nothing wrong. Just as Masfrafe Mortaza's freedom fighter comments was not wrong.

I am sure those who think Afridi's comments aren't wrong also believe that what Mortaza said was fine.


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sundries said:
Occupied Kashmir .. Have people come from Muzzafarabad also :p ..
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Rightarmfast said:
Didnt know people from pakistan occupied kashmir were present in the match
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Pakistanis and Kashimiris call Indian-held Kashmir as the occupied Kashmir.

You can ask all the occupied kashmiris here on this forum, or go to the valley yourself. Yes, I know Indian media doesn't call it as occupied for obvious reasons.
 
Sidilicious said:
Nothing wrong. Just as Masfrafe Mortaza's freedom fighter comments was not wrong.

I am sure those who think Afridi's comments aren't wrong also believe that what Mortaza said was fine.


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Both are different IMO. Mashrafe was referring to something totally political - Afridi just acknowledged the Kashmiri crowd that's physically present there and CHEERING for them!

He didn't make any political comment.
 
Looking forward to hearing Javed Miandad's opinion now. Has Lala salvaged himself?
 
Hawkeye said:
Both are different IMO. Mashrafe was referring to something totally political.
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So this was apolitical ?!

A few days ago he said many Indians support/love him...Why not acknowledge all of them as a whole rather than people from a specific part only ? Does he now mean to say that other Indians dont support him ?
 
Abhilash93 said:
So this was apolitical ?!

A few days ago he said many Indians support/love him...Why not acknowledge all of them as a whole rather than people from a specific part only ? Does he now mean to say that other Indians dont support him ?
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Did you hear the huge crowd's roar when Rameez started talking to Afridi at the toss?

The crowd is CHANTING Afridi Afridi.. all are from Kashmir. He had to acknowledge it.
 
http://www.ibnlive.com/cricketnext/...ir-have-come-to-support-pakistan-1219920.html

Mohali: On the backfoot after his team's loss to arch-rivals India in Kolkata last week, Pakistan captain Shahid Afridi chose to raise an unexpected controversy - raking up Kashmir, of all things - before the start of a World T20 here on Tuesday.

Asked by former Pakistan cricket captain and now commentator Rameez Raja if he and his team had support from the crowds here, Afridi said that "a lot of people are here for Kashmir".

"It seems you have a bit of fan following here in Mohali," Raja remarked after Afridi lost the toss in the match against New Zealand.

"Ya, a lot of people, a lot of people are here from Kashmir as well. And I want to thanks people of Kolkata, they really support us as well," Afridi said at the Punjab Cricket Association stadium here on Tuesday evening just before the start of the Pakistan vs New Zealand group match.

Afridi had found himself in the midst of a controversy a few days back when he stated that the Pakistani cricket team got more love in India than in Pakistan. The statement led to Afridi's criticism in Pakistan, especially from former cricketers like Javed Miandad.
Pakistan was beaten by India at Kolkata's Eden Gardens ground on Saturday.
 
He should have said there are aliens in the crowd who are here to support Pakistan ( can't say kashmiri as people on PP will create a thread on it to bash him)!


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So what if he said Kashmir? I thought Kashmiris support Pakistani team and that's not a secret.
 
BCCI secretary warns Shahid Afridi over issuing political statements

NEW DELHI: Indian cricket’s secretary Anurag Thakur on Wednesday warned Pakistan T20 captain Shahid Afridi to avoid giving political statements, the Press Trust of India reported.

Thakur, who is secretary Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI), took note of Afridi’s statement during the toss of the crucial World T20 tie between Pakistan and New Zealand in Mohali.

“We have a lot of support today. A lot of people from Kashmir have also come to support us,” Afridi had said, prompting the BCCI secretary to go public in condemnation of his words.

“To give a statement like that is not politically correct,” Thakur said, adding: “A player should stay away from all this. That’s the reason why he was criticised in Pakistan.”

The BCCI secretary referred to Afridi’s previous comments of “getting more love in India” that drew sharp criticism from former cricketers and people back home.

Meanwhile, after suffering a defeat against the Kiwis, Afridi indicated at calling it a day when Pakistan face Australia on March 25.

Pakistan lost to New Zealand by 22 runs. Batting first, the Kiwis posted a mammoth 180 to be chased down in 20 overs.

The challenge proved to be insurmountable for the Pakistan team, which ended their run-chase with just 158 on the board for the loss of five wickets.

With the victory, the Black Caps secured a berth in the semi-finals of the World T20, making them the first team to qualify.

http://www.dawn.com/news/1247454/
 
What did he say that offended the poor BCCI ??

A story about nothing.
 
London_Lahori said:
So why is the BCCI secretary giving political statements like this one?
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Do we know he was wearing his BCCI hat at the time? Maybe he took it off and put on his government hat before making this statement? Then removed it and put his BCCI hat back on?
 
Like they have oppressed Kashmiris for the last 50 years now they want players not to even state facts and appreciate people travelling from another city to come watch pakistan play.


What this women is doing is stopping Pakistan from attracting the occupied Kasmir crowd because the Indian government knows the Kashmiris will come out in the thousands and support Pakistan over any other team in the WC including India.
Kashmiris won't ever forget what Pakistan has done for them, how many wars we have started for them with India, a country with much larger resources and man power then Pak, yet we have always stood up for our Kashmiri brothers.
 
He was just stating a fact

Even in the Kolkata games many Kashmiri transplants were cheering for Pakistan
 
This is a total farce, I hope the Lodha Committee report js implemented both in letter and spirit. Such ultra nationalists should not be a part of our game.
 
If you are in india, then you got to respect it's rule and boundaries.

Afridi did violate this simple concept.

A Pakistani in india should avoid talking about kashmir.
 
Itachi said:
If you are in india, then you got to respect it's rule and boundaries.

Afridi did violate this simple concept.

A Pakistani in india should avoid talking about kashmir.
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What "rule" is there?

Isn't it part of free speech?

Afridi didn't ask the Kashmiris to start the rebellion or something. Take a chill pill BCCI and nationalists
 
Itachi said:
If you are in india, then you got to respect it's rule and boundaries.

Afridi did violate this simple concept.

A Pakistani in india should avoid talking about kashmir.
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It wasn't a political statement, he just commented that Pakistan had a lot of support including some fans from Kashmir. BCCI if anything is showing it's own pettiness and habit of indulging in cross border politics.
 
If Pakistan & India play a match in Mir purchase Cricket stadium AJK and Virat says after toss that Umar Daraz has come to support me than will it be a politically incorrect statement ?
 
Nothing wrong in afridis statement..after all we are a democracy and democracy clearly allows others to air their views.no need to be so sensitive and it's a open fact that kasmiris support pak cricket team over India. .
 
BCCI doesn't hold authority over Afridi.
He works under PCB not BCCI
BCCI should have asked that to PCB to stop him, as usual BCCI thinks they can bully anyone they want even if they are Pakistan players
 
London_Lahori said:
So why is the BCCI secretary giving political statements like this one?
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I don't know if it's an honest question or snarky comment but let me try to respond..... The tournament is being played in India ...... So the event is being managed by BCCI for ICC.

The last thing this tournament needs is a political controversy if a captain and a very popular player is stirring the emotions of a few "patriots" or "fringe" groups which ever way you look at it.

The BCCI wants an incident and hassle free tournament and things like this some times can cause problems
 
sportsmen over the years have made political statements. its not like not making such statements seems to convince india to resume bilaterlal relations so might as well pakistanis speak their mind. what can BCCI do? NOTHING! except saying they wont play Pakistan which they dont at this time anyway...

how can a foreign board official warn a player that does not even belong to his country. its more like saying Stewie warned Trump this morning or Nawaz Sharif for having bad hair. big pile of whoopdy effing doo!
 
No one has criticised him over this statement in Pakistan. No need to look deep into it. Mind your own business Thakur or I shall call Gabbar.
 
Itachi said:
If you are in india, then you got to respect it's rule and boundaries.

Afridi did violate this simple concept.

A Pakistani in india should avoid talking about kashmir.
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So there's a rule barring freedom of speech in Indian democracy?

Any ways all What happened was that the interviewer said that the crowd is cheering for you a lot and Pakistan seems popular and he replied that it's been great and he knows some people from Kashmir also came to watch us and would like to thank the crowd in Kolkata too
 
Itachi said:
If you are in india, then you got to respect it's rule and boundaries.

Afridi did violate this simple concept.

A Pakistani in india should avoid talking about kashmir.
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You guys have suppressed the Kashmiri voice for so long you think you can tell people from other countries not to speak on the issue.

Maybe India has forgotten about their Kashmiris but we haven't
 
Itachi said:
If you are in india, then you got to respect it's rule and boundaries.

Afridi did violate this simple concept.

A Pakistani in india should avoid talking about kashmir.
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Damn, never knew this is a banned statement in India's rules and boundaries :))
 
I (wrongly) thought that Afridi's job was to win on the Cricket Pitch and not to start a revolution on Indian Streets, o well!
 
Pakistan cricketer Shahid Afridi has caused an uproar in India for saying that a lot of support for their team at the World T20 comes from Kashmiris.

Afridi was responding to commentator Ramiz Raja who said "it seems you have a bit of fan following here in Mohali" during Pakistan's match on Tuesday.

"Yes, a lot of people, a lot of people are here from Kashmir as well," Afridi said on live television.

India and Pakistan have fought two wars and a limited conflict over Kashmir.

The region is claimed by both countries in its entirety.

Indian media channels have highlighted Afridi's statement as "provocative" and the secretary of India's cricket board, Anurag Thakur, has also criticised him.

"To give a statement like that is not politically correct. A player should stay away from all this," he was quoted as saying by the Press Trust of India news agency.

The arrival of the Pakistani cricket team for the World T20 was delayed after Islamabad asked to have the venue of its India match shifted from Dharamsala over concerns for the safety of their players.

Before coming to India, Afridi drew criticism in Pakistan for saying the team received "more love in India than back home".

One Pakistani tweeter in Lahore, Faraz, joked about it at the time, saying that Afridi would be next criticised for not mentioning Kashmir or meeting separatist leaders - something which Pakistani leaders or diplomats are often expected to do when they visit India.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-35879866
 
Bakasura said:
You should hd and saying we came seen how Gayle is supported in Bangalore..here 2 people holding placard saying we came for afridi doesn't mean many kashmiris flown to Mohali to support Pakistan..
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Really ... he pretty much stated the obvious. There were lot of people from kashmir in the ground cheering for pakistan, most of them students, who study in Punjab, delhi and other adjacent areas.


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im from indian occupied Kashmir no one asked for my views [MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] [MENTION=138379]#GreenRoars[/MENTION] very sad :((
 
i bet you Pakistani cricket team is more popoular in kashmir than in pakistan itselt not only me all my collage friends watch pakistan domestic cricket.
 
Well what he said is true.I was present in the stadium there were lot of kashmiris present in the stadium and chanting jeetaga Bhai jeetega Pakistan jeetega lot of love for pak team
 
Some people here are defending Afridi. but ... i have a doubt. On the same yard stick a Virat kohli fan was imprisoned in Pakistan for ten years or so for keeping Indian flag with him .Isn't it double standards?
 
Extremely unprofessional from Afridi. If nothing else, he should realize what a mental midget he is under pressure, so why put more stress upon oneself with indulgent stupidity.
 
shaaik said:
Really ... he pretty much stated the obvious. There were lot of people from kashmir in the ground cheering for pakistan, most of them students, who study in Punjab, delhi and other adjacent areas.


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And you know this sitting in Pakistan?
 
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