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Should Shan Masood retain his Test captaincy after back to back series defeats?

Should Shan Masood retain his Test captaincy after back to back series defeats?

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He entered the arena with great pomp and was supposed to be the salvatore of Pakistan's Test woes but unfortunately as a captain he has made some unfavorable records for himself. As Pakistan skipper he would be the first player to lose all of his first 5 Tests (If Bangladesh triumphs tomorrow) even the ones at home turf. So Shaheen Shah Afridi got dismissed as a T20I captain after one bad series against New Zealand but the question is whether Shan would suffer the same fate? Provided that he is on verge of losing the 2nd Test series as captain.

So what do you guys think is Shan Masood a goner or will he bounce back as a good skipper in future?
 
I think Pakistan need new leadership in Test.

Make Saud Shakeel or Rizwan the captain maybe.
 
Mamoon said:
Worst cricketer in Pakistan history.
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One of the.*

But yes it’s difficult to recall someone as terrible as Shan at batting.

Imam ul Haq, Ahmed Shehzad from recent times are also terrible but not as terrible as Shan.

Imran Farhat maybe is close.
 
Hawkeye said:
One of the.*

But yes it’s difficult to recall someone as terrible as Shan at batting.

Imam ul Haq, Ahmed Shehzad from recent times are also terrible but not as terrible as Shan.

Imran Farhat maybe is close.
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No one is close when you look at the number of matches he has played. Imam and Shehzad are/were comfortably better than him. Farhat too.
 
PCB needs extra credit for Pakistan recent results and performances.

Some of their achievements

1) Recalling a failed player not only back into the team, but as captain

2) Overseeing the decline of Shaheen from world class to trundler.

3) Ensuring there is limited spinning options available in all formats

4) Inviting retired players back into the team

5) Developing Shadab from part time bowler to top order batsmen
 
Knowing Pak in general be it politicians actors cricketers the more incompetent you are Masood will be rewarded with odi captaincy.
 
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YousafTheBeast said:
Look on the bright side, he’s stopping Rizwan from being the captain👀
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This is a bigger problem

The longer Rizwan is kept out of the firing line, the longer he will continue to have unaccountable performances and build this false sense of perception that he is a great leader who is being unfairly treated.

Make this guy the captain now, let’s get this over and done with. He won’t ever leave us until he hasn’t had his full tassali of besti
 
DeadlyVenom said:
He should see out the rest of the season.
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I agree. We have burnt bridges with Babar and Shaheen. Sarfaraz is past his best. Rizwan is hated as if he is Benjamin Netanyahu’s front man. Saud Shakeel is not ready.

This only leaves Shan as the choice for now.
 
gazza619 said:
Incorrect. He is better than Azam Khan.
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Azam Khan on his day is a destructive batsman.

Tears apart the bowlers, specially spinners.

Shan can’t do anything, even in league cricket.
 
He doesn't perform and he isn't a good strategic captain.

Should have never been made captain in the first place but Pakistani cricket is something else.
 
Hawkeye said:
One of the.*

But yes it’s difficult to recall someone as terrible as Shan at batting.

Imam ul Haq, Ahmed Shehzad from recent times are also terrible but not as terrible as Shan.

Imran Farhat maybe is close.
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Those three are easily better than him and none of them were ever even considered for Captaincy. Ahmed Shahzad has a test of Average of 40 but he last played 7 years ago. I don't know which is more baffling Shan getting the captaincy or Shan being in the side with his long record of non-performance.
 
Hawkeye said:
Azam Khan on his day is a destructive batsman.

Tears apart the bowlers, specially spinners.

Shan can’t do anything, even in league cricket.
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The trouble is that Azam Khan’s day only comes in mickey mouse leagues. We saw what a disgrace he was in international cricket.
 
kingusama92 said:
He doesn't perform and he isn't a good strategic captain.

Should have never been made captain in the first place but Pakistani cricket is something else.
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And some fans were comparing Shan with the famous England skipper Mike Brearley. Only resemblance being Mike Had a very low batting average. But Brearley was a People person who got the most out of his players, a great tactician of Cricket. And a Captain who had a very impressive Test winning record (unlike now, in his time the majority of tests ended in draws). Shan Masood is none of those, under him the infighting has gotten worse. His tactics are poor and his results are worse.
Shan is one for the history books and that too for infamy
 
After this series loss it's highly likely he will be axed. Losing to BD at home is plain embarrassing. Though I can't say the possibility of Babar being reinstated is much better either
 
gazza619 said:
I agree. We have burnt bridges with Babar and Shaheen. Sarfaraz is past his best. Rizwan is hated as if he is Benjamin Netanyahu’s front man. Saud Shakeel is not ready.

This only leaves Shan as the choice for now.
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Shan needs to be dropped from the side, he is turning 35 next month (he is not some youngster who is still learning ). Give Huraira & Kamran Ghulam a chance. We need a new Captain and Saud Shakeel might be the compromise candidate. However why is Rizwan hated? apart from his T20 strike rate (& that he replaced Sarfaraz on merit), what exactly is wrong with him?
 
cricketAXEpert said:
Shan needs to be dropped from the side, he is turning 35 next month (he is not some youngster who is still learning ). Give Huraira & Kamran Ghulam a chance. We need a new Captain and Saud Shakeel might be the compromise candidate. However why is Rizwan hated? apart from his T20 strike rate (& that he replaced Sarfaraz on merit), what exactly is wrong with him?
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yeah why are people after Rizwan for no justified reason?
 
I had hopes for Saud but after seeing his mental midgetness on display I’m not sure he can handle captaincy, nor is he even established enough to take it on. The test team needs some big changes and I would advocate for an acting captain while we give some new players a chance for a few series to see if they can establish themselves long term i.e. Ghulam, Sahibzada, Amin, etc.
 
Rana said:
Yeah let me entertain this question seriously like I have been doing since 2019…




















Oh wait no, I haven’t been able to get my argument across to the deaf before, don’t see how it makes any difference now.
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I like though. It kinda wakes up my brain cells.
 
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The Bald Eagle said:
He entered the arena with great pomp and was supposed to be the salvatore of Pakistan's Test woes but unfortunately as a captain he has made some unfavorable records for himself. As Pakistan skipper he would be the first player to lose all of his first 5 Tests (If Bangladesh triumphs tomorrow) even the ones at home turf. So Shaheen Shah Afridi got dismissed as a T20I captain after one bad series against New Zealand but the question is whether Shan would suffer the same fate? Provided that he is on verge of losing the 2nd Test series as captain.

So what do you guys think is Shan Masood a goner or will he bounce back as a good skipper in future?
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The guy is well connected with his father a higher up in PCB and Pakistan social circles. Even we Indians know about his parchis. He is not going anywhere
 
With him being the captain, Pakistan stamped mediocrity on their cricket, Ramiz stooge was harping the unlimited benefits of Shan being the skipper
 
Saud has failed again otherwise would have been tempted to give him the reins and rebuild fresh team by inducting Kamran Ghulam, Hurraira, etc.
Or should we recall Umar Amin as captain. Lol.
 
His days should be outnumbered as a batter first. Captaincy is not even a talk here.
 
mon858 said:
Saud has failed again otherwise would have been tempted to give him the reins and rebuild fresh team by inducting Kamran Ghulam, Hurraira, etc.
Or should we recall Umar Amin as captain. Lol.
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Back saud, ghulam, Hirraira and others.

These are your top domestic performers and have the right attitude to improve.

I'd back babar if he actually bothered to improve rather then having every batting coach complain on him
 
If Babar was still captain and Pakistan would have lost, the usual deluded folks would have told us that Pakistan would have easily won with a captain like Masood.
 
Back-to-back series defeats have put Pakistan's Test captain Shan Masood under scrutiny, raising questions about his leadership and the team's overall performance.

First, he lost an away series against Australia 3-0, and now this humiliating 2-0 clean sweep against Bangladesh for the first time ever that too at home.

With pressure mounting, the big question on everyone's mind is: should Shan Masood retain his Test captaincy or is it time for a change?
 
He should be axed. His captaincy was horrendous and sorry but a whitewash against Bangladesh at home is unpardonable.
 
When you are over 30 and you still don't know whether to declare or not, you should do yourself a favour and step down, for your own good to be honest.
 
but but I’m a fan of his captaincy.

But but what a captain.

But but he is the most improved batsman since 2019.

But but Pakistan needs an educated and articulate captain.

But but Babar’s captaincy is holding the team back.

But but Masood is the captain Pakistan has needed since 2022.

:klopp
 
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Zaka Ashraf should be held accountable for the damage he has done.

Shan needs to step down and should be dropped.

Babar should come in for 2 more years.
 
Retain him for the next series.

Let the coaching staff bed in and work with players and identify a future captain.
 
Everything about Masood projects mediocrity.

His batting, his body language, his facial expressions, his malnourished physique.

He is a loser through and through. The worst cricketer in Pakistan history. A complete failure.

He is essentially a poor man’s Ramiz Raja, but to be fair to Ramiz, he has played some knocks in his career that are well and truly beyond the capability of Masood.
 
If any dignity left he should man up and resign from captaincy, because that's for sure he is in the team only as captain
 
Masood as captain has been awful. Shanto trumped him in every aspect of captaincy.
 
This loser should resign

Worst captain ever and worst test batsman in Pakistan history to play 35+ test matches
 
If babar azam can retain for 1000 years . Shan should be given 2 years
 
sweep_shot said:
He should lose captaincy.

Maybe make Shakeel or Rizwan the captain.
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I'm not convinced on Rizwans fitness for the long form captaincy. He seems to act on impulse a lot and sometimes test cricket needs a cool mind to weather storms.

We are in a real rut and have no options.

I think we need to tolerate Shan for a bit.
 
Shan won't get into any of the test teams as a batter. Not even in a single one.

How on earth is he captain? It's beyond any logic.
 
There is no upside with Shan anymore and he has to go.

The only possible optimistic case for his captaincy was that maybe he would average around 35-40 for a 2 year stint so that guys like Shakeel could be prepared for the captaincy instead of being thrown into deep end.

He has shown now that he remains the 25-30 avg batter he always was and Pak Test team have anyway reached lowest depth by losing home series to Bangla. So, might as well try Shakeel as captain against Eng. At this stage there are zero expectations of this team so even a young captain will get decent rope.
 
Well for one, he articulated the defeat both in the 1st and 2nd Tests perfectly in English.
Bet for that alone PCB will retain him.
 
The funny thing is the confidence this guy has while giving interviews. Time and time again he's mentioned stuff like 'start of home season', '9 matches.....'.

He is fully entrusted to lead the team irrespective of anything and will gladly resign after that. It's literally saying he's gladly taking his turn as skipper.
 
Some people will not like it but he is replaced I would go with Rizwan he is more or less consistent compare to the other batsmans in the team.
 
Hawkeye said:
Azam Khan on his day is a destructive batsman.

Tears apart the bowlers, specially spinners.

Shan can’t do anything, even in league cricket.
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Seriously Azam khan. One of worst cricketers ever Pak have allowed to play the game of cricket. He should join sumo or wrestling.. Even in gully cricket if there is a bowler to bounce him like wood he will have his throat slit or a head injury
 
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I think, he is not a bad captain - definitely decent compared to Babar. However, he is a specialist batsman & quite ordinary in his core (only) role - it’s not easy for a batting captain to lead a struggling side; even more difficult if he is Masood’s class as batsman. For example, Shanto is quite a decent block as Captain, but his nick name in BD cricket circles is “Lord Shantu”…. for that guy averages 29 in Test….similar to Shan.

Have said it many times - PCB must appoint a bowler/all-rounder as Captain so that he can lead the side without added pressure of failure.

Won’t have taken him in my XI, but looks like Agha is a permanent member in Test XI & to his credit guy is punching well above his weight - average over 40 with bat is more than enough to be a specialist bat for PCT, on top a decent block with ball & a brilliant catcher.

Why not him? At least he can take pressure off the batsmen, try his best and he should be an automatic choice in the XI for now; at the right age bracket at well.

Ideally, PAK’s long term 3 format Captain could have been Shadab, but he wasted himself by allowing his bowling to decline.
 
Other than not having third slip there was not a lot he could do with these resources. Pakistan was never known to win matches due to "brilliant captiancy". Mostly due to maverick performances. It is all about having everyone on the same page. I say "leadership" rather than "captaicy".
 
No captain can (or should) retain the position whilst the team is losing and your own form is poor.

He might have scraped it if either the side was winning and he wasn’t performing or if the side was losing but he was scoring heavily.
Neither of these criteria are fulfilled and therefore he has to go.

He was cut some slack in the Aus series because Pakistan never do well there, but losing 2-0 to BD at home is poor.

Whoever is passed the poisoned chalice of Pakistani Test captaincy must be worthy of his place in the team.
Nasser Hussain wrote about this in his autobiography— when his own form was poor, and he was berating the batsmen for a poor performance, one of them piped up …” any chance of you scoring a few Skip ?”.

The authority comes performing as a player.
 
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He has been blanked 5/0 home and away , surely this Shanball is not working heck even Imam is better than him atleast he can score big hundreds once in a blue moon unlike 40 ball 30 Shan
 
Untenable. You don't survive results like this as captain.

Even if you make tactical mistakes, runs as a batting captain buys goodwill and Shan, much like his international career, hasn't made enough.

Infact IU's data analyst Rehanul Haq posted on X that we have the worst performing Top 4 since the start of 2023. Obviously Abdullah and Babar's form has been horrid too.

The question is how will PCB react ? Mohsin Naqvi makes big statements about major surgery and how he's unafraid to make bold decisions yet he retained Babar after the T20 World Cup horrorshow. Will he bottle this decision too ?
 
Hawkeye said:
Azam Khan on his day is a destructive batsman.

Tears apart the bowlers, specially spinners.

Shan can’t do anything, even in league cricket.
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Do they call burgers bowlers in Pakistan ? And is Spinners as good as McD ?
 
He shouldn't be playing as a batsman. Not sure why the discussion about captain spot.
 
cricketAXEpert said:
Shan needs to be dropped from the side, he is turning 35 next month (he is not some youngster who is still learning ). Give Huraira & Kamran Ghulam a chance. We need a new Captain and Saud Shakeel might be the compromise candidate. However why is Rizwan hated? apart from his T20 strike rate (& that he replaced Sarfaraz on merit), what exactly is wrong with him?
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He is hated cos Rana doesnt like him ... lol
 
Mamoon said:
Everything about Masood projects mediocrity.

His batting, his body language, his facial expressions, his malnourished physique.

He is a loser through and through. The worst cricketer in Pakistan history. A complete failure.

He is essentially a poor man’s Ramiz Raja, but to be fair to Ramiz, he has played some knocks in his career that are well and truly beyond the capability of Masood.
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Woah! Hold your horses man, Rana Saab ka bhoor aa gya aap mein?
 
Was very disappointed with Shan's captaincy this series.

However Gillespie has publicly backed him and Masood in his press conference was unphased which means he has been given assurances behind the scenes by the PCB that he will continue in the role. Listening to his press conference was a breath of fresh air, spoke excellent English, with clarity and answered questions honestly. Had gotten sick and tired of listening to paindu Babar's crap for 5 years.

Regardless Shan Masood will definitely have a bright future as a commentator, broadcaster like Bazid Khan once his playing days are over. He has already worked as a pundit for some British tv channels in the UK.
 
Savak said:
Was very disappointed with Shan's captaincy this series.

However Gillespie has publicly backed him and Masood in his press conference was unphased which means he has been given assurances behind the scenes by the PCB that he will continue in the role. Listening to his press conference was a breath of fresh air, spoke excellent English, with clarity and answered questions honestly. Had gotten sick and tired of listening to paindu Babar's crap for 5 years.

Regardless Shan Masood will definitely have a bright future as a commentator, broadcaster like Bazid Khan once his playing days are over. He has already worked as a pundit for some British tv channels in the UK.
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But his job is not to give english lessons. His job is to score runs and lead his team well.
 
Buffet said:
But his job is not to give english lessons. His job is to score runs and lead his team well.
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Agreed. If the PCB is appointing him because of his English PR skills then just give him the job of official spokesperson of the Pakistan team and remove him from the playing eleven and captaincy.
 
Savak said:
Agreed. If the PCB is appointing him because of his English PR skills then just give him the job of official spokesperson of the Pakistan team and remove him from the playing eleven and captaincy.
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+1

Having good speaking skills is surely a plus but primary job is batting and leading the team. Now, I don't see much in his batting and if you can't make the XI as a player then captain spot shouldn't be up for discussion. First discussion should be for a spot as a player.
 
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