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Should the 2019 World Cup have been shared between England and New Zealand?

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World Cup comes every four years for teams to even come to the final is an achievement in itself.

So, if two teams tie clearly it means that both teams are on par with each other. So, ideally the World Cup should be shared. Your thoughts?
 
Cricket lover 27 said:
World Cup comes every four years for teams to even come to the final is an achievement in itself.

So, if two teams tie clearly it means that both teams are on par with each other. So, ideally the World Cup should be shared. Your thoughts?
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Its the world cup sharing it would make the whole tournament pointless
 
It should've been since the super over was tied as well.

Instead of boundaries it should've been wickets lost
 
I dont understand this stupid rule of boundaries.
Should have been shared.Kiwis deserved it.
 
NZ must be wondering,

How to make logics with the way they have been robbed of the WC?

Shattered absolutely!!!
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
World will recognize them.

It's what counts.

It's what will be written in history books.

Better to accept it bhai.

What cannot be cured has to be endured.
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Imagine if this was India in place of NZ..What would have been scenes all round the country..
 
Ab Fan said:
Imagine if this was India in place of NZ..What would have been scenes all round the country..
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Riots.

ICC websites would have been hacked.

Social media sites been hacked.

Ruthless trolling.

We would have made them cry with our jungly behavior. :))
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
World will recognize them.

It's what counts.

It's what will be written in history books.

Better to accept it bhai.

What cannot be cured has to be endured.
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ICC should go to hell, they are only a money maker machine. us fans wont recognized it at all. this WC will always be remember as having a controversial winner.mark my words.its not a clear cut victory.
 
Shouldve done another super over, isnt that the most logical..
 
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Don't blame england. NZ choked big time. Boult lost the game for NZ. Two pin point Yorkers in the last over and why would you bowl a slower ball for a six? What about that catch where he waited too long before throwing it to Guptill? Can't score a 2? He didn't even hit it or place it. The pity is both teams had a chance to win the world cup with 3 required of 2 balls. They couldn't close it out.
 
Poseidon said:
ICC should go to hell, they are only a money maker machine. us fans wont recognized it at all. this WC will always be remember as having a controversial winner.mark my words.its not a clear cut victory.
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Calm down. Who's gonna play and who's gonna watch if there is no money. Rules are the same for everyone. There is a reason why boundaries scored are a criteria. Cricket is entertainment and boundaries entertain people. NZ have themselves to blame. Their best bowler Boult choked
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Riots.

ICC websites would have been hacked.

Social media sites been hacked.

Ruthless trolling.

We would have made them cry with our jungly behavior. :))
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And to add up- All the T. V sets were destined to be broken.. News reporters would have bashed ICC all the way, strikes and ICC posters burnt, Oh My God..!!!!

They might have changed the rules their itself, lol.. Imagining the impact.:))
 
It's frustrating enough when after 5 days of cricket a Test match gets drawn and their is no winner - particularly when it's a tightly fought game.

It would be so much worse to have 7 weeks of cricket and then a shared World Cup trophy.

NZ were extremely unlucky, but England - in particular Stokes and Butler - played insanely well.
 
TalhaSyed said:
It's frustrating enough when after 5 days of cricket a Test match gets drawn and their is no winner - particularly when it's a tightly fought game.

It would be so much worse to have 7 weeks of cricket and then a shared World Cup trophy.

NZ were extremely unlucky, but England - in particular Stokes and Butler - played insanely well.
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Games are not tied every day. In the history of World cup finals this is the first time it has.
 
Great final and happy england won

But no team plays their innings with the number of boundaries they have hit in mind
You can be conscious of how many wickets youre down e.g. with D/L but never in any game is any team keeping a track of boundaries hit

And whats wrong with running 2s in 2 balls versus hitting a 4 and then a dot ball. Both are just as good, players rotating strike should be encouraged..

Another super over should have been played
 
hamzie said:
Shouldve done another super over, isnt that the most logical..
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TalhaSyed said:
It's frustrating enough when after 5 days of cricket a Test match gets drawn and their is no winner - particularly when it's a tightly fought game.

It would be so much worse to have 7 weeks of cricket and then a shared World Cup trophy.

NZ were extremely unlucky, but England - in particular Stokes and Butler - played insanely well.
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Another super over.

Do it till someone wins.

Even more fair.
 
Ab Fan said:
And to add up- All the T. V sets were destined to be broken.. News reporters would have bashed ICC all the way, strikes and ICC posters burnt, Oh My God..!!!!

They might have changed the rules their itself, lol.. Imagining the impact.:))
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Hahahahaha...yeah.
 
Shared WC doesn't make sense. There should be one winner. Congratulations, England.
 
Heck, i would take even Group stage rankings over the no. of boundaries criteria. That one just doesn’t make any sense.
 
dildilpak said:
Heck, i would take even Group stage rankings over the no. of boundaries criteria. That one just doesn’t make any sense.
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Number of boundaries is stupid. I agree.

England would've won with group stage ranking anyway (England were 3rd and NZ were 4th).
 
Haven't feel sad when pak lost to India in 2007 t20 final because India won that game properly but today feel really sad for nz that over throw and boundry rule deprived therm the world cup
 
IMO the rule should be to have another super over with the other team batting first and have it continued till the winner is decided. Like in football, if the teams are level on penalties after the first five penalties, they continue having penalties until they are not level anymore
 
faizanj said:
IMO the rule should be to have another super over with the other team batting first and have it continued till the winner is decided. Like in football, if the teams are level on penalties after the first five penalties, they continue having penalties until they are not level anymore
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It would take too long. One super over is enough. If still tie, use NRR.
 
sweep_shot said:
Number of boundaries is stupid. I agree.

England would've won with group stage ranking anyway (England were 3rd and NZ were 4th).
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I know England would have won anyway, but at the very least the group ranking criteria would have made some sense. I dont understand how can you apply entire match boundary rule to judge a tied superover
 
Ab Fan said:
And to add up- All the T. V sets were destined to be broken.. News reporters would have bashed ICC all the way, strikes and ICC posters burnt, Oh My God..!!!!

They might have changed the rules their itself, lol.. Imagining the impact.:))
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Yes the rules would have been Changed on the field and ganguly would have jumped from the commentry box and ran to pitch to change the rules
 
dildilpak said:
I know England would have won anyway, but at the very least the group ranking criteria would have made some sense. I dont understand how can you apply entire match boundary rule to judge a tied superover
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They had to use a criteria. And usually this tie-breaker is insignificant. And NZ came out knowing that they had to score 16 runs or they'd lose. End of story.
 
sweep_shot said:
Number of boundaries is stupid. I agree.

England would've won with group stage ranking anyway (England were 3rd and NZ were 4th).
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Actually, England would've won by almost any criteria. Head to Head in group, group ranking, boundaries hit. The only criterion that would've won it for NZ is wickets lost. But I agree that boundary count is a stupid rule.
 
Aman said:
We lost a WC on boundaries that's ****ing pathetic.
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Its Karma and tough luck bro. All of your luck during group staged got equalized in final. I mean what are the odds of ball hitting Stokes bat and going for four.
 
Like I said before no team really stand out from each this WC other which is why you have a tie even after super over.
 
There has to be a winner if a full game is played. But the boundary rule is pathetic. Would love someone from the ICC to explain why they decided that was a fair way to decide a winner.
 
No one stopped New Zealand from hitting more boundaries. The rules were the same for both teams.

England deserve to win not just today but based on everything they have done over the last four years.
 
Mamoon said:
No one stopped New Zealand from hitting more boundaries. The rules were the same for both teams.

England deserve to win not just today but based on everything they have done over the last four years.
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Literally won because of a dumb rule.

If the rules made sense we'd be world champions.
 
Mamoon said:
No one stopped New Zealand from hitting more boundaries. The rules were the same for both teams.

England deserve to win not just today but based on everything they have done over the last four years.
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Disagree on bold part ! you have ranking system for that ,They deserve title because they played better in WC period
 
Mamoon said:
No one stopped New Zealand from hitting more boundaries. The rules were the same for both teams.

England deserve to win not just today but based on everything they have done over the last four years.
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The most tainted win in the history of cricket for England.
 
i dont buy this it will be too long **. it should carry on super overs till winner, look at wimbeldon today carried on till there was winner in epic tie break!!!

at most the game might go on another few overs but who cares they have flood lights and it was making the best tv in cricket sports ever,

I think the real winner today is channel 4 in england got the greatest game in cricket history for free!!! lolol
 
Aman said:
Literally won because of a dumb rule.

If the rules made sense we'd be world champions.
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I can understand your feeling brother. It's hard to find logic really on what went wrong with you guys today.. But eventually the result is what it is. One has to accept it and make peace with.

The logic that NZ should be hitting more boundaries is absolutely absymal and illogical really..
 
Ab Fan said:
I can understand your feeling brother. It's hard to find logic really on what went wrong with you guys today.. But eventually the result is what it is. One has to accept it and make peace with.

The logic that NZ should be hitting more boundaries is absolutely absymal and illogical really..
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Dude, wickets is common sense... boundaries? ***?

This is such ** and the ICC should feel embarrassed to see a world champion decided like this, especially a team which was very lucky to become champions.
 
and if they will do this stupid oundaries rule etc why even bother with super over etc just give it to england
or nz if it was old rules of less wkts lost....
 
Madplayer said:
The most tainted win in the history of cricket for England.
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The contrary I think.

The most lion-hearted World Cup win. They were in the dumps four years ago, they revamped their squad and played smashing cricket for 3 years. In the World Cup they had a stutter, but they recovered and produced incredible performances under pressure.

You can call it tainted if you wish, but you cannot deny the fact that England have completely obliterated the notion that they are chokers and bottlers. This is one of the must clutch teams in ODI history. What they have done in this World Cup under pressure is the stuff of gods.
 
Aman said:
Dude, wickets is common sense... boundaries? ***?

This is such ** and the ICC should feel embarrassed to see a world champion decided like this, especially a team which was very lucky to become champions.
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it should go on like in tennis till you have winner, or just use group standings and dont even bother with super over...lol
 
Mamoon said:
The contrary I think.

The most lion-hearted World Cup win. They were in the dumps four years ago, they revamped their squad and played smashing cricket for 3 years. In the World Cup they had a stutter, but they recovered and produced incredible performances under pressure.

You can call it tainted if you wish, but you cannot deny the fact that England have completely obliterated the notion that they are chokers and bottlers. This is one of the must clutch teams in ODI history. What they have done in this World Cup under pressure is the stuff of gods.
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dude it was pure luck in the end nz got that 6 over throw freak of nature you will never likely see repeated again....and england still didnt legitimately beat them lol

I am happy for england as after pak I support them and I had money on them but they didnt win it properly in my eyes, and to call it the lion hearted win, you must be smoking something strong lolol
 
Mamoon said:
The contrary I think.

The most lion-hearted World Cup win. They were in the dumps four years ago, they revamped their squad and played smashing cricket for 3 years. In the World Cup they had a stutter, but they recovered and produced incredible performances under pressure.

You can call it tainted if you wish, but you cannot deny the fact that England have completely obliterated the notion that they are chokers and bottlers. This is one of the must clutch teams in ODI history. What they have done in this World Cup under pressure is the stuff of gods.
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This is the biggest fluke in the history of sport and will never be beat. How are you going to explain this one after going on for years about Pakistan in the CT in 2017
 
Aman said:
This is the biggest fluke in the history of sport and will never be beat. How are you going to explain this one after going on for years about Pakistan in the CT in 2017
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mamoon is the biggest hypocrite on here. If pak won like this he would be going on about the fluke for years.....lol England were given the trophy by default and played better than nz over tournament for sure. but today nz won it for me. If I was england captain today I would give my winning medal to Kane as a gesture of respect!
 
If Super over is tied ICC should use bowl out (which was used in 2007 world t20 group stage match ind vs pak)
bowl out just like a penalty shootiut will never end in a tie it can go on until we have a Winner
uts illogical but at least less dumb than boundary count
 
Yup absolutely - but we should still have a winner.

After 7 weeks of cricket to simply say the World Cup would be shared wiould have been such an anti-climax
 
What are people smoking? Sharing a world cup trophy in your most prestigious tournament would be a death blow to the game. It is imperative that a winner is awarded otherwise the whole thing would be a exercise in futility.
 
sensible-indian-fan said:
Another super over.

Do it till someone wins.

Even more fair.
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Yup absolutely! I'm not convinced the "most boundaries" rule is a good way of deciding the winner and another super over would have made sense - but it would have been horrendous if after everything that's gone down in the last 2 weeks the cup was simply shared between both teams
 
It should be shared .

After 50 overs in a final , either have best of three final , or share the Trophy. These kind of most wickets lost , most boundaries etc are stupid gimmicks.
 
No. Sharing it makes no sense at all. We would then have two world champions:ma
 
Would England have complained if they lost on wickets? Makes more sense than boundaries.

Feels like we've been royally screwed.
 
Hell no.

If it's shared, the value of it just increases coz there's not just one team who's claimed it.

The 2002 ct trophy technically has been won by two countries but when people discredit it as there was no one winner.
 
Aman said:
Would England have complained if they lost on wickets? Makes more sense than boundaries.

Feels like we've been royally screwed.
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You were crying about how NZ didn't even deserve to be in the final and how your batting is weak etc etc.

Now suddenly you think they were deserving winners... :)))
 
There's no logic behind boundaries being a suitable metric to determine which team out of the 2 was superior on the day.

Wickets would have been more appropriate or their previous head to head.

Given it was a final it is an absolutely heartbreaking way to lose.
 
They should have just had another over....

This doesn't take away from Englands win...but I do agree with those stating the boundary rule is so arbitrary...

Imagine if in a Football World Cup final...it's level after 5 penalties...and then the ref awards the World Cup to the side that had more shots on goal in the game...
 
For me both England and NZ are joint winners.
 
Aman said:
Would England have complained if they lost on wickets? Makes more sense than boundaries.

Feels like we've been royally screwed.
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Nah Butler isn't Mushy. You have best complete bowling attack in tournament. However batting wasn’t good enough.

Also, if it didn't rain India would’ve chased 239 with eyes closed as ball wouldn’t have swung as much.

Still anyway NZ is a top team with only like 5 mil population.
 
England would never share it. They would think they won the World Cup even before it started.

The bludgeoning England of the past 4 years did not win this WC however.
 
England fluked it today.
Most of the batters choked it ( except stokes ) and even he had two incredible slices of luck without which he was not getting it done.
Terrible not to be chasing 241, it wasn't ragging square or anything like that, just needed to bat sensible.
Very very fortunate today. Unlucky NZ, but England were the best team in the Tournament. But the final should really be about what happens in the final
 
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Laws are stupid. One boundary four = 4 singles. Why is boundary getting precedence. Most illogical. Number of wickets make more sense.
 
Very sore, bad loser [MENTION=132954]Aman[/MENTION]. Some sad comments to read.

Learn some lessons from your team and your captain. They ooze decency and class.
 
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