Should the Niqab be banned in public?

[Indiafan]

Yes so a murderer covers his face with a burka so it's the burka's fault. )

Do you want scarfs, wolly hats, ski masks, balaclavas and any type of cloth which can cover your face including socks if wrapped correctly to be banned?

Are you a closest nudist?

Actually most of the things you mentioned are banned in most senitive placed if they cover the face. The difference is that people are comfortable removing all of those, if asked to. On the other hand, a woman wearing a niqab might not be comfortable removing it.

 

[mahout]

Niqab should never be banned, its freedom of expression and its beautiful.

A husband can just have one picture on his office desk - that should take care of all four of them.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Has it been banned in Afghanistan yet? Please report Myrmidion, memamia and international secular friends of the nation.

 

[Robert]

lol. Don't worry the old bill can ask to see your face if society is in great danger. In your mind everyone should show their face all the time, day or night, hot or cold just in case the old bill is looking for Jack the Ripper. You do come out with some serious foolishness but it's highly amusing.

Lol. You haven't read my several contributions to this thread, have you?

 

[bobwoolmersarmy]

the perpetrator of this hideous crime wore a niqab

surely it is a hinderance to police in the identification of the cuplprit ?

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...olds-no-hate-towards-perpetrator-8483639.html

Did acid attack girl, 20, throw burning liquid on HERSELF?



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...aims-researched-similar-incidents-attack.html

 

[KingKhanWC]

Actually most of the things you mentioned are banned in most senitive placed if they cover the face. The difference is that people are comfortable removing all of those, if asked to. On the other hand, a woman wearing a niqab might not be comfortable removing it.

I guess you have spoken to all women who wear it.

Women who wear it travel on planes, they have to show it. If it's not totally necessary then they may feel it's not needed to show their face.

You haven't read my several contributions to this thread, have you?

I have that's the problem.

Good watch.

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[chacha kashmiri]

They need to ban super hero conventions first, only then can we as a people move forward

 

[mahout]

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will there ever be a woman in niqab on tv saying she is oppressed and would like the niqab to be banned, when the punishment for apostasy in her religion is death, I guess not.

 

[chacha kashmiri]

will there ever be a woman in niqab on tv saying she is oppressed and would like the niqab to be banned, when the punishment for apostasy in her religion is death, I guess not.

Why would she wear the niqab if she thought it was equal to oppression

Thats like someone kissing another man on tv, if they're not homosexual, just to prove they're pro homo

 

[Robert]

Is there any way to put a given PPer on "Ignore" so you cannot see his posts?

 

[s28]

Most people have this thing called a brain which they can use to filter / censor stuff they don't want to see. Personally Trollert I put most of your posts through a 'Troll-filter' to 'de-troll' them. Nothing much is left after that.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Is there any way to put a given PPer on "Ignore" so you cannot see his posts?

I know mahout's posts in this thread are awful BUT give him a chance, he might get better

 

[s28]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4909762/Old-pal-is-charged-over-acid-burn-girl.html

 

[HamzaSaeen]

If a woman doesn't choose to wear, then there is no problem. Why such a big problem if she chooses to wear? I don't get it. This is Equality and Freedom at its very best.

 

[Garuda]

The problem is not the dress but the intention.

But there is a difference here. If someone comes to my office or place wearing a ski mask, it gives his intention clear that he is there for a crime. You do not see common people wearing masks. One can't roam around with masks on his face without raising doubts. He may use it at the exact time of crime.

Nikaab on the other hand is used by common people. So it's easy access to the criminal till he finishes his intended work.

 

[oyei]

^^ how many muslim criminal wearing burka have robbed you?

 

[pakistanalltheway]

Should The Niqab Be Banned In Public

The problem is not the dress but the intention.

But there is a difference here. If someone comes to my office or place wearing a ski mask, it gives his intention clear that he is there for a crime. You do not see common people wearing masks. One can't roam around with masks on his face without raising doubts. He may use it at the exact time of crime.

Nikaab on the other hand is used by common people. So it's easy access to the criminal till he finishes his intended work.

No offence but that is a lame argument . Do you want hoodies banned too ? I know they don't cover you face or better yet do you want bandanas banned as well .

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

The problem is not the dress but the intention.

But there is a difference here. If someone comes to my office or place wearing a ski mask, it gives his intention clear that he is there for a crime. You do not see common people wearing masks. One can't roam around with masks on his face without raising doubts. He may use it at the exact time of crime.

Nikaab on the other hand is used by common people. So it's easy access to the criminal till he finishes his intended work.

If it's a security risk then perhaps India should consider a ban. Each country needs to look at it's own internal threat risk.

 

[Indiafan]

If there is an argumnt to ban burkhas, security will not be one of the reasons. Its not like burkha clad criminals are running riot. The number of such crimes are minuscle

 

[Garuda]

^^ how many muslim criminal wearing burka have robbed you?

Read again my post before replying.

No AK 47 ever shot me. Does that mean I will feel comfortable someone carrying it while entering my house ?

 

[Garuda]

If it's a security risk then perhaps India should consider a ban. Each country needs to look at it's own internal threat risk.

True. Again, the burqa is not a security risk.

It's about criminal who wants to use it to hide himself. If the security agency of the country/place/office feel they can be attacked by using that disguise, they have a reason.

In India I do not think anyone has felt the risk. So why ban it?

 

[Gilly]

How do we know they are women, they could be men and want to hide their faces because muslims dont believe in gay partners. People just assume that its women under there but dont really know.

 

[in_cutter]

Should The Niqab Be Banned In Public

Colombia: Defrocked 'Nuns' Found With Drugs

The young women were asked to step to one side when they arrived at their destination because, police captain Oscar Davila said, they seemed nervous and the fabric did not look right.
The hunch was correct and police found more than 4lb of cocaine (2kg) strapped to the legs of each woman.
The women - none of whom was a nun - apparently burst into tears on being caught.
They told officers they had been forced to carry the drugs because of financial hardship.
The women were arrested and detained on drug trafficking charges.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

This may reignite this debate again in the UK. Still can't see high end London stores enforcing a ban though as a lot of their summer business will be from very wealthy, holidaying Arab ladies possibly dressed like this.

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Selfridges robbery: 'Men in burkas' in 'smash and grab'

Six men armed with axes have carried out a "smash-and-grab" raid at London's Selfridges department store.

Police said the robbers, reportedly dressed in burkas, smashed glass cabinets to steal high value watches.

Two suspects were later arrested when they came off a moped and members of the public stopped them fleeing.

The store in Oxford Street tweeted no-one was hurt in Thursday's robbery. The value of the stolen watches has yet to be established.
'Kicking and screaming'

Police said the men fled the shop on mopeds and motorbikes ridden by associates.

Matthew Carrozo said he heard a moped crashing just under a mile away from Selfridges and saw one man dressed in full motorcycle gear while a second man dressed in a burka fell on to the ground.
The scene of a smash and grab robbery in Selfridges, The value of the stolen watches has yet to be established

The 28-year-old, who was on the corner of Goodge Street and Charlotte Street, said he then saw a man run out from a nearby pizza restaurant and pin down one of the two people who were on the vehicle.

"Someone noticed a bag had fallen off the moped and that it had opened and a bunch a watches fell out," he said. "The duffle bag was full of watches and jewellery."

"The first guy pegged it down Charlotte Street and then he was held to the ground as other people were getting involved. He really put up a struggle.
Brave actions

"When cops turned up they put him in the back of a van and he was kicking and screaming," said Mr Carrozo.
Police, medics and passers-by around a man who came off a moped One of the arrested men was taken to hospital

Det Ch Insp Andy Noyes said: "I'd like to thank those members of the public who stepped in and detained our two suspects.

"Their quick thinking and brave actions have helped our investigation."

One of the arrested men remains in hospital with a fractured leg and the other is in police custody.

Sally Boazman, who was in Selfridges when the raid happened, said: "Suddenly I saw hundreds of people running to the door.

"It was a real panic situation."

DCI Noyes said: "This was a brazen robbery, and appears to have been well planned and thought through.

"Fortunately no-one was injured. The store was very busy and this will have been a shocking thing for people to witness."

The raid took place 30 minutes before the department store was due to close at 21:00 BST.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22811466

 

[LooneyReturns]

Banned should be people who tell women how to dress . Wear a fan if that makes you look hot .

 

[SpiritOf1903]

Banned should be people who tell women how to dress . Wear a fan if that makes you look hot .

Depends on what ones interpretation is of 'telling' In Turkey, that country of great 'revolution' [lol], wearing a headscarf was banned in public buildings.

Now, simple laws have brought out 'secularists'/kemalists [anti-religionists - Islam] who want to rejuvenate the Ataturk manifesto and sideline Islam, despite it being vastly appreciated by most of the population.

In Tunisia, we had the wretched social media viral - very much a virus - where the 'feminists', an odd and hotch-potch movement, similar to 'gay pride', similar to other feminism movements going on in Eastern Europe. Eastern Europe also has the most thriving red-light districts; but they're creating wealth and that's obviously a good thing, if you're an ardent capitalist, that is, where morality has no place.

How does the niqab affect you personally, OP ?, and surely it is xenophobia if you're pandering to ill-advised and often antagonistic media frenzy ?.

 

[Black Zero]

it should be banned even in private...

 

[DoosraTeesra]

Niqab takes away all the confidence women may have. They are totally left on the mercy of male companions.

How many women do you see who uses niqab are successful businesswomens are socially active. Almost Nil

 

[TAK]

Should The Niqab Be Banned In Public

i see that gang that raided selfridges recently were wearing this type of identity suppressing garment

 

[Radiance Of Australis]

For the last time and for the love of God, please stop dictating what women should wear or what they shouldn't. I wear a scarf and honestly I do not care if the woman next to me is in a shorts, regular jeans or a whole burqa.

Also, I understand the security reason for considering restrictions on burqa but no clothing should be banned outright.

ALSO, to call for a ban because you think it is 'hideous' or it 'enslaves' woman and try to support your argument by USING the security excuse is pathetic. You don't get to decide what a woman wears in society, you cannot generalize all women by claiming it enslaves them. You CANNOT speak for everyone, not even the supposed 'majority' (that you claim).

 

[Kwremb]

For the last time and for the love of God, please stop dictating what women should wear or what they shouldn't. I wear a scarf and honestly I do not care if the woman next to me is in a shorts, regular jeans or a whole burqa.

Also, I understand the security reason for considering restrictions on burqa but no clothing should be banned outright.

ALSO, to call for a ban because you think it is 'hideous' or it 'enslaves' woman and try to support your argument by USING the security excuse is pathetic. You don't get to decide what a woman wears in society, you cannot generalize all women by claiming it enslaves them. You CANNOT speak for everyone, not even the supposed 'majority' (that you claim).

Agree

 

[Uzi]

Should The Niqab Be Banned In Public

For the last time and for the love of God, please stop dictating what women should wear or what they shouldn't. I wear a scarf and honestly I do not care if the woman next to me is in a shorts, regular jeans or a whole burqa.

Also, I understand the security reason for considering restrictions on burqa but no clothing should be banned outright.

ALSO, to call for a ban because you think it is 'hideous' or it 'enslaves' woman and try to support your argument by USING the security excuse is pathetic. You don't get to decide what a woman wears in society, you cannot generalize all women by claiming it enslaves them. You CANNOT speak for everyone, not even the supposed 'majority' (that you claim).

Spot on. Should never be banned. Let women decide what they want to wear.

 

[Gabbar Singh]

Looks like even the Police are suspecting this 'crime' has been faked.

Well done to those who didn't fall for it. But shame on those who will grasp on anything to troll about Islam. Maybe they should have a good look at themselves.

http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/Society/article1220360.ece

Did acid attack girl, 20, throw burning liquid on HERSELF?



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...aims-researched-similar-incidents-attack.html

Nope, it wasn't faked - the matter is now in court.

A jealous university student threw sulphuric acid over her friend in an attack inspired by the horrific assault on Katie Piper, a court today heard.

Mary Konye, 21, disguised herself in an Islamic veil showing only her eyes, and followed Naomi Oni home in East London before allegedly dousing her in the corrosive acid.

Ms Oni, 21, who worked at Victoria’s Secret lingerie shop, suffered horrific burns on her face and chest, lost her hair and eyelashes and was left scarred for life in the alleged attack on December 30 2012.

Snaresbrook Crown Court heard that Konye, who was studying business and finance at Hertfordshire University, had been close friends with Ms Oni since secondary school.

But she was envious of the shop worker’s good looks, and the pair had rowed in the past leading Konye to attack her with acid previously, it is alleged.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...red-horrific-assault-Katie-Piper-jealous.html

 

[KingKhanWC]

How do we know they are women, they could be men and want to hide their faces because muslims dont believe in gay partners. People just assume that its women under there but dont really know.

Should all face covering be banned now? Millions will start to cover the face in soon.

Or shall we still only ban Muslim women who want to cover their face?

 

[GBK_Fan]

Geez!! What a time to bump this thread

 

[KingKhanWC]

Geez!! What a time to bump this thread

A great time.

Lets see if all those who were anti niqab due to security reasons would also support the banning of fase masks for security reasons? It's more likely some paranoid person who has no money, lost his/her job, will wear a face mask and commit crime.

Your view now?

 

[Thomaskutty]

Or shall we still only ban Muslim women who want to cover their face?

Facemasks are being used now as part of a health emergency. The Niqab is dehumanising piece of clothing and should be called out for being exactly that. I agree with Boris Johnson's description of it in his article, for which is was panned.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Facemasks are being used now as part of a health emergency. The Niqab is dehumanising piece of clothing and should be called out for being exactly that. I agree with Boris Johnson's description of it in his article, for which is was panned.

This is your opinion.

You miss the point like Modi with a hole in his head.

Both people are covering their faces, are they both not security issues whatever their reasoning. Do you not think crime will spike when people lose jobs?

I will bump this when I read people with masks loot or steal.

 

[Nadeemp]

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Should all face covering be banned now? Millions will start to cover the face in soon.

Or shall we still only ban Muslim women who want to cover their face?

What a comparison . Shocking .. and sit down please

 

[sweep_shot]

I don't see any issue with Niqab. Banning it will be stupid.

It is not like it is giving us a disease or anything. It is a symbol for modesty.

 

[shaykh]

On the subject of security I am quite surprised that there hasn't been a terror attack during this outbreak...seems IS are also self isolating...

 

[KingKhanWC]

What a comparison . Shocking .. and sit down please

In terms of security, this is a good comparison. Please explain why it's not? If you can....

On the subject of security I am quite surprised that there hasn't been a terror attack during this outbreak...seems IS are also self isolating...

According to the news, IS have said to its followers to stay away from Europe so they dont get infected lol.

You will see many attacks in the UK in the summer, when people get hungry after losing jobs, the far right will start their attacks. Its not IS we need to worry about in the UK.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Lol, but face coverings are banned in France. The French have made a fool of themselves, yet again.

 

[Robert]

A great time.

Lets see if all those who were anti niqab due to security reasons would also support the banning of fase masks for security reasons? It's more likely some paranoid person who has no money, lost his/her job, will wear a face mask and commit crime.

Your view now?

It’s a false equivalence. You are conflating a National medical emergency with a social/cultural debate about whether women hiding their faces is acceptable in an open and free society.

 

[saeedhk]

What a time to bump the thread!There is no equivalence between the two. Very childish attempt!

 

[KingKhanWC]

It’s a false equivalence. You are conflating a National medical emergency with a social/cultural debate about whether women hiding their faces is acceptable in an open and free society.

Im not equating, just pointing out an irony.

However emergency or not, covering the face was a security risk, surely it's more now as more people are covering and crime will spike.

Also it was told , it's disrespectul for someone covering their face to speak to others, it's not now.

 

[Nadeemp]

Im not equating, just pointing out an irony.

However emergency or not, covering the face was a security risk, surely it's more now as more people are covering and crime will spike.

Also it was told , it's disrespectful for someone covering their face to speak to others, it's not now.

How are you equating the two. Your foolishness has been pointed out by a few people here ON THIS SUBJECT

 

[Slog]

Niqabs scary man

Kkwc grasping at straws again tho. Nothing new

 

[KingKhanWC]

Niqabs scary man

Kkwc grasping at straws again tho. Nothing new

It was just to point out irony, dont get too serious as always lol.

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I think KKWC has made a valid point tbh. Personally I used to feel quietly hostile to seeing a woman in a niqab, now I would probably be wondering if it offers them some protection from the virus.

 

[Robert]

Im not equating, just pointing out an irony.

However emergency or not, covering the face was a security risk, surely it's more now as more people are covering and crime will spike.

Also it was told , it's disrespectul for someone covering their face to speak to others, it's not now.

Wouldn't call it irony exactly.

Crime is going to spike because people are scared as the epidemic takes hold.

I have not seen anyone wearing a face mask. They don't work anyway. They are designed to stop dust and smoke, not virus particles.

 

[InziRules]

I don't see why wearing letterboxes should be allowed

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

I don't see why wearing letterboxes should be allowed

They are still allowed in the UK, and I would think most wearers are probably feeling pretty smug about it with all the bugs flying around, so I definitely can't see that changing during these letterbox-wearing times.

 

[Vegitto1]

The main argument, and the strongest argument in my opinion, against the niqab was that it poses a security risk. It is important to understand that niqab is seperate from the burka and head-scarf.

head-scarf only covers your hair leaving the face visible. Niqab would always accompany a head-scarf and covers the face, leaving the eyes exposed. It is or may be worn with normal clothes.

The Burka is a black piece of garment which covers you from head to ankle and you cannot tell whether the person wearing it is a man or woman hence is real security risk.

I have no problems with the other two. If niqab is a security risk then so is a dust-mask. If niqab is socially unacceptable then so are multiple facial tattoos and piercings. You cannot simply pick and choose.

 

[InziRules]

I don't think anyone but the Taliban supporters have an issue with face tattoos

 

[Vegitto1]

I don't think anyone but the Taliban supporters have an issue with face tattoos

Lol, who makes up these rules? surely it is subjective. I remember a time not too long ago that you wouldn't get a decent job due to tattoos and visible facial piercings. I guess at one point everyone was a Taliban supporter.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Wouldn't call it irony exactly.

Crime is going to spike because people are scared as the epidemic takes hold.

I have not seen anyone wearing a face mask. They don't work anyway. They are designed to stop dust and smoke, not virus particles.

Im sure you have now.

Sure its for a different reason, nobody is denying this obvious point. However to all those posters who want the niqab banned? Simple question.

Do you still want it banned when every Tom, Dick and Susan is wearing masks covering their face? Or should it be allowed until this virus disappears?

 

[Local.Dada]

Im sure you have now.

Sure its for a different reason, nobody is denying this obvious point. However to all those posters who want the niqab banned? Simple question.

Do you still want it banned when every Tom, Dick and Susan is wearing masks covering their face? Or should it be allowed until this virus disappears?

People are wearing masks because not only it protects them but people around them. Also no one is enjoying wearing them. It’s unavoidable under the current circumstances.

Are you telling me the whole concept of the niqab was designed for the same purpose with science attached to it? If then shouldn’t men be wearing them too?

 

[Nadeemp]

Im sure you have now.

Sure its for a different reason, nobody is denying this obvious point. However to all those posters who want the niqab banned? Simple question.

Do you still want it banned when every Tom, Dick and Susan is wearing masks covering their face? Or should it be allowed until this virus disappears?

The two things have nothing in common. Can’t believe u bumped the thread to discuss the two

 

[Nadeemp]

People are wearing masks because not only it protects them but people around them. Also no one is enjoying wearing them. It’s unavoidable under the current circumstances.

Are you telling me the whole concept of the niqab was designed for the same purpose with science attached to it? If then shouldn’t men be wearing them too?

It’s insane that I have to state that

 

[KingKhanWC]

People are wearing masks because not only it protects them but people around them. Also no one is enjoying wearing them. It’s unavoidable under the current circumstances.

Are you telling me the whole concept of the niqab was designed for the same purpose with science attached to it? If then shouldn’t men be wearing them too?

The two things have nothing in common. Can’t believe u bumped the thread to discuss the two

lol. Did you read my post.

Try again with glasses please.

"
Sure its for a different reason, nobody is denying this obvious point"

My question is simple.

Do you still want it banned when every Tom, Dick and Susan is wearing masks covering their face? Or should it be allowed until this virus disappears?

Seems you are struggling to answer, no surprise.

 

[Local.Dada]

lol. Did you read my post.

Try again with glasses please.

"
Sure its for a different reason, nobody is denying this obvious point"

My question is simple.

Do you still want it banned when every Tom, Dick and Susan is wearing masks covering their face? Or should it be allowed until this virus disappears?

Seems you are struggling to answer, no surprise.

Let me simplify it for you niqab is not a substitute for face masks. So yes niqab should still be banned,

However masks are a no brainer given the current scenario.

2 different things.

If the people wearing niqab till now want to start wearing masks in the future as a fashion statement or because of being germaphobic either ways that’s alright.

 

[ManFan]

Let me simplify it for you niqab is not a substitute for face masks. So yes niqab should still be banned,

However masks are a no brainer given the current scenario.

2 different things.

If the people wearing niqab till now want to start wearing masks in the future as a fashion statement or because of being germaphobic either ways that’s alright.

So, a piece of clothing (fashion) is only appropriate when it has a scientific purpose attached to it?

The Chinese and other Asians have been wearing face masks for a while now and it had become a fashion of some sort BEFORE the virus.

Of course, now they can point to their critics and say there are practical benefits as well. Sort of like denim jeans for cowboys.

People want freedom of expression as long as it covers their beliefs. But when it comes to another, they always find an excuse.

 

[Nadeemp]

So, a piece of clothing (fashion) is only appropriate when it has a scientific purpose attached to it?

The Chinese and other Asians have been wearing face masks for a while now and it had become a fashion of some sort BEFORE the virus.

Of course, now they can point to their critics and say there are practical benefits as well. Sort of like denim jeans for cowboys.

People want freedom of expression as long as it covers their beliefs. But when it comes to another, they always find an excuse.

The niqab does not serve any scientific purpose according to the Quran.

 

[saeedhk]

I have been reading something like on FB and Insta by our Pakistani Mujahids:

‘Evil Europe banned the burqa but with Allah’s will all Europeans are wearing burqas now -alluding to masks worn during the current epidemic. Mashallah!’

 

[Robert]

lol. Did you read my post.

Try again with glasses please.

"
Sure its for a different reason, nobody is denying this obvious point"

My question is simple.

Do you still want it banned when every Tom, Dick and Susan is wearing masks covering their face? Or should it be allowed until this virus disappears?

Seems you are struggling to answer, no surprise.

You’re not comparing like with like. Firstly very few people are wearing masks, secondly the veils do not protect against infection and thirdly masks don’t cover the hair.

 

[KingKhanWC]

You’re not comparing like with like. Firstly very few people are wearing masks, secondly the veils do not protect against infection and thirdly masks don’t cover the hair.

lol

It’s seems people can’t answer a simple question.

For the 4/5th time It’s not a comparison . I’ll try again

Should the niqab be banned while others are being advised to wear masks ? Yes or no ? I don’t need to repeat answer . Yes or no will
Do ???

 

[KingKhanWC]

I have been reading something like on FB and Insta by our Pakistani Mujahids:

‘Evil Europe banned the burqa but with Allah’s will all Europeans are wearing burqas now -alluding to masks worn during the current epidemic. Mashallah!’

Don’t read your posts much but aren’t you advocating everyone wears a mask ? lol

Perhaps if they designed a mask niqab you’d be jumping with joy ?

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

You’re not comparing like with like. Firstly very few people are wearing masks, secondly the veils do not protect against infection and thirdly masks don’t cover the hair.

Veils do protect against infection, or to be more accurate, they will stop the spread to other people by containing spit or breath to the person wearing it. There is even advice that people going outside should wear any form of cloth covering if they can't get hold of a mask and it will help.

I have never been a fan of veils and am on record criticising the niqab on this forum, but needs must, and in today's climate, no one will give a monkeys about a woman wearing a veil.

 

[saeedhk]

Don’t read your posts much but aren’t you advocating everyone wears a mask ? lol

Perhaps if they designed a mask niqab you’d be jumping with joy ?

Why would I wear it? A mask is for health reasons whike the niqab is for religious reasons. Your arguments are very poor I’m afraid.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Veils do protect against infection, or to be more accurate, they will stop the spread to other people by containing spit or breath to the person wearing it. There is even advice that people going outside should wear any form of cloth covering if they can't get hold of a mask and it will help.

I have never been a fan of veils and am on record criticising the niqab on this forum, but needs must, and in today's climate, no one will give a monkeys about a woman wearing a veil.

Many of them wear gloves too, along with the long black apron, pretty good PPE.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Why would I wear it? A mask is for health reasons whike the niqab is for religious reasons. Your arguments are very poor I’m afraid.

Never suggested you wear it, I'd be scared too!

Let me try again.

Would it be ok for a women dressed in a Niqab if the face covering was a mask instead of cloth? Or would you still like it banned?

Btw it's not religous but cultural. I assume you comment on all womens fashion from various cultures.

 

[Robert]

lol

It’s seems people can’t answer a simple question.

For the 4/5th time It’s not a comparison . I’ll try again

Should the niqab be banned while others are being advised to wear masks ? Yes or no ? I don’t need to repeat answer . Yes or no will
Do ???

Purple.

There you go. A nonsense answer to a nonsense question.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Purple.

There you go. A nonsense answer to a nonsense question.

So you would like women to take off a piece of cloth covering the face because it's religous and replace it with a mask because it's not.

What about all the huge security concerns? This was raised in big debates, walking ino banks etc. But now you can walk anywhere (banks closed) with masks, balaclavas, zipped hoodies, gloves, big robes etc.

The irony is just brilliant.

 

[sweep_shot]

I personally think banning niqab doesn't increase safety because terrorists don't do terrorism in niqab.

Terrorists generally attack with no face covering. Even if they have something, it is generally balaclava or something similar.

So, banning niqab is really pointless.

 

[Local.Dada]

So you would like women to take off a piece of cloth covering the face because it's religous and replace it with a mask because it's not.

What about all the huge security concerns? This was raised in big debates, walking ino banks etc. But now you can walk anywhere (banks closed) with masks, balaclavas, zipped hoodies, gloves, big robes etc.

The irony is just brilliant.

Let me put it this way

Taking a prescribed pain killer under unavoidable circumstances is not the same as taking these narcotics as recreation.

Similarly wearing a veil is a symbol of a medieval and outdated custom and is seen some what as an oppressive symbol, wearing a mask is something you are doing out of necessity. How you don’t see the difference is beyond me.

Now if you are implying that an old veil/ niqab lying around the house are being used as a masks I see that as being resourceful and creative as long as they are being worn for hygienic purposes.

Read it a couple of times before you reply

 

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Similarly wearing a veil is a symbol of a medieval and outdated custom and is seen some what as an oppressive symbol, wearing a mask is something you are doing out of necessity. How you don’t see the difference is beyond me.

Symbolism is always subjective.

I know many guys who wear hoodies and love to conceal themselves.

Some people may choose to be private and they don't want to be noticed. That's all.

 

[Local.Dada]

Symbolism is always subjective.

I know many guys who wear hoodies and love to conceal themselves.

Some people may choose to be private and they don't want to be noticed. That's all.

If I wear a hoodie I do it from choice not because my religion tells me to dress a certain way to avoid getting whatever.

 

[sweep_shot]

If I wear a hoodie I do it from choice not because my religion tells me to dress a certain way to avoid getting whatever.

So, you want to see niqab banned but not hoodie. Nice.

Funny thing is, a lot of crimes are done wearing hoodies and not niqab. Let's ban hoodies then.

 

[Local.Dada]

So, you want to see niqab banned but not hoodie. Nice.

Funny thing is, a lot of crimes are done wearing hoodies and not niqab. Let's ban hoodies then.

Are you serious? Not the just the crime aspect but you realize that women roaming around looking like a tent in the 21st century is neither a fashion statement or a symbol of liberation right?