Should Umar Amin open for Pakistan in the ODI format?

[sadida97]

Umar amin has had a brilliant Pakistan cup with scores of 111, 29 and 56.

He averaged 99 at a strike rate of 100.

Pakistan is in deep need of an opener, especially in the shorter formats.

Should Umar Amin be given a chance as an opener in the ODI format ?

 

[Square Drive]

Fakhar and Hafeez should open, with Amin as a backup.

Enough of this Azhar, Shehzad, Kamran mediocrity.

 

[ChinMusic]

umar amin is def the lad to look forward to.. he is confident n mature with a brain in his head, unlike the akmals.. def shld open and shld open with fakhar

 

[ExpressPacer]

Should definitely be in the mix. Need to get rid of Shehzad, Hafeez and Akmal(s) ASAP!

 

[Hasan123]

I wouldn't be upset with him opening. I'll take him over Azhar and Kamran.

 

[Syed1]

Should definitely be in the squad primarily because we lack left-hand batsmen in the middle order (or the opening slot)


Fakhar deserves it more as an opener. Amin can slot in at four in place of Hafeez who should be pushed into his natural place of opener or pushed out of the team.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

He should be in the squad as the third opener with Fakhar Zaman and M Hafeez being the primary ones.

 

[sadida97]

Should definitely be in the squad primarily because we lack left-hand batsmen in the middle order (or the opening slot)


Fakhar deserves it more as an opener. Amin can slot in at four in place of Hafeez who should be pushed into his natural place of opener or pushed out of the team.

Haris at four and amin as an opener ?

 

[Da_Future_Knick]

Babar at 3 followed by haris at 4 and Amin at 5.

Babar
Haris
Amin
Akmal
Imad
Shadab
Sohail
Amir
Hassan.

Let Sarfraz open with Fakhar.

 

[ExplicitAI]

Wouldn't mind giving him one last go, can be handy with the ball too. Another failure from Amin then send him to the wilderness.

 

[Ami]

Irrelevant post.
Need to select him first, then we can talk about his selection.

 

[Ami]

*slot in the batting order.

 

[Arsalan Pro]

He himself should think about playing as an opener, given that most of the players in the middle order pick themselves up for starting XI.

 

[sadida97]

Babar at 3 followed by haris at 4 and Amin at 5.

Babar
Haris
Amin
Akmal
Imad
Shadab
Sohail
Amir
Hassan.

Let Sarfraz open with Fakhar.

y
I'd rather play him as an opener, because he likes to play in the upper order:

1-Sharjeel Khan (hopefully he is innocent)
2-Umar Amin
3-Babar Azam
4-Haris Sohail
5-Sarfaraz Ahmed
6-Shoaib Malik
7-Imad Wasim
8-Shadab Khan
9-Mohammad Amir
10-Junaid Khan/Sohail Khan
11-Hassan Ali

 

[ahsanimtiaz53]

No umar amin

Umar amin has had a brilliant Pakistan cup with scores of 111, 29 and 56.

He averaged 99 at a strike rate of 100.

Pakistan is in deep need of an opener, especially in the shorter formats.

Should Umar Amin be given a chance as an opener in the ODI format ?

Shahibzada Farhan and Sami Aslam have performed wonderfully in the Pakistan Cup, which is why they should be a better choice in the future. Hahris Sohail is continuing to fail and I don't think Pakistan should waste their time hoping he gets better. Sami and Sahibzada are the way to go. For opening especially

 

[Citizen4]

Amin, Khurram, Sahibzada, I'd take anyone just get rid of the TTFs in the team

 

[Ellipsism]

Amin, Khurram, Sahibzada, I'd take anyone just get rid of the TTFs in the team

Khurrum?

 

[Citizen4]

Khurrum?

yes, Khurram, the guy who scored the fastest hundred of the Pakistan cup this year and has been playing aggressive innings as an opener since last year or so.

Don't even try to tell me about his flaws or technique.

I'd take him over TTF's that Inzi has selected to open.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Cant be any worse than shehzad and azhar , Plus we get to see those silky drives.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Amin
Akmal
Babar
Haris
Malik
Sarfraz
Yamin
Shadab
Amir
Hasan
Another quick

 

[Ellipsism]

yes, Khurram, the guy who scored the fastest hundred of the Pakistan cup this year and has been playing aggressive innings as an opener since last year or so.

Don't even try to tell me about his flaws or technique.

I'd take him over TTF's that Inzi has selected to open.

We're better off investing in younger talent that have the potential and mental game to succeed at the highest level and not these domestic bullies that neither have the potential nor the eagerness required.

Khurrum's game has already been broken down on this forum countless times and thus I won't going into detail but I will say that he doesn't have the capability to score against top quality attacks.

Funny you mention T&TF and Khurrum in the same sentence.

 

[sadida97]

Shahibzada Farhan and Sami Aslam have performed wonderfully in the Pakistan Cup, which is why they should be a better choice in the future. Hahris Sohail is continuing to fail and I don't think Pakistan should waste their time hoping he gets better. Sami and Sahibzada are the way to go. For opening especially

what ???? haris scored 2 50s and a hundred in 5 matches.... dont know what ur on about! We all saw how sami played in England, he just isn't good enough against pace...

 

[sadida97]

We're better off investing in younger talent that have the potential and mental game to succeed at the highest level and not these domestic bullies that neither have the potential nor the eagerness required.

Khurrum's game has already been broken down on this forum countless times and thus I won't going into detail but I will say that he doesn't have the capability to score against top quality attacks.

Funny you mention T&TF and Khurrum in the same sentence.

What do you think about the Idea of Amin opening ? did he impress you in this pakistan cup ?

 

[Ellipsism]

What do you think about the Idea of Amin opening ? did he impress you in this pakistan cup ?

Unfortunately didn't get to see him bat this tournament.

I don't mind the idea of Amin opening but I would like to first see him perform at a higher level, such as 'A' tours.

 

[Citizen4]

We're better off investing in younger talent that have the potential and mental game to succeed at the highest level and not these domestic bullies that neither have the potential nor the eagerness required.

Khurrum's game has already been broken down on this forum countless times and thus I won't going into detail but I will say that he doesn't have the capability to score against top quality attacks.

Funny you mention T&TF and Khurrum in the same sentence.

lol Khurrum was not even given a proper run in the ODIs whish is his best format and he has changed his game anyone who has watched him can tell that, he is more aggressive now. Khurram is a TTF? based on what? almost a decade ols record of 7 ODIs he played before he established himself in List A cricket where he has one of the best ever records and he was not given a chance later, or those 3 T20s in Asia cp where he himself was shocked by the decision of selectors that he is selected without playing Psl.
No young opener is capable of scoring at a high strike rate from the word go right now.
Selectors have given numerous chances to TTFs and they failed miserably so the guys in form deserve to be selected in place if them.
A supreme failure like Shafiq got 60 ODIs just because he is aesthecially pleasing when he is in form, and he ended up with an average of 24 ans SR of 67 after the experiment of 60 ODIs. So dont even try to bring u technique when our best opener of the last few year was labeled a leg side hack before he proved moat of the people like yourself wrong.
Of course feel free to disagree and go on with your favorite pessimism and uneducated guesses and kneejerk reactions when you havent even watched him bat.

 

[sadida97]

lol Khurrum was not even given a proper run in the ODIs whish is his best format and he has changed his game anyone who has watched him can tell that, he is more aggressive now. Khurram is a TTF? based on what? almost a decade ols record of 7 ODIs he played before he established himself in List A cricket where he has one of the best ever records and he was not given a chance later, or those 3 T20s in Asia cp where he himself was shocked by the decision of selectors that he is selected without playing Psl.
No young opener is capable of scoring at a high strike rate from the word go right now.
Selectors have given numerous chances to TTFs and they failed miserably so the guys in form deserve to be selected in place if them.
A supreme failure like Shafiq got 60 ODIs just because he is aesthecially pleasing when he is in form, and he ended up with an average of 24 ans SR of 67 after the experiment of 60 ODIs. So dont even try to bring u technique when our best opener of the last few year was labeled a leg side hack before he proved moat of the people like yourself wrong.
Of course feel free to disagree and go on with your favorite pessimism and uneducated guesses and kneejerk reactions when you havent even watched him bat.

Asia cup.

 

[Ellipsism]

lol Khurrum was not even given a proper run in the ODIs whish is his best format and he has changed his game anyone who has watched him can tell that, he is more aggressive now. Khurram is a TTF? based on what? almost a decade ols record of 7 ODIs he played before he established himself in List A cricket where he has one of the best ever records and he was not given a chance later, or those 3 T20s in Asia cp where he himself was shocked by the decision of selectors that he is selected without playing Psl.
No young opener is capable of scoring at a high strike rate from the word go right now.
Selectors have given numerous chances to TTFs and they failed miserably so the guys in form deserve to be selected in place if them.
A supreme failure like Shafiq got 60 ODIs just because he is aesthecially pleasing when he is in form, and he ended up with an average of 24 ans SR of 67 after the experiment of 60 ODIs. So dont even try to bring u technique when our best opener of the last few year was labeled a leg side hack before he proved moat of the people like yourself wrong.
Of course feel free to disagree and go on with your favorite pessimism.

Funny you lament me as being wrong as I was one of the few that said Sharjeel had more potential than the leg-side hacking he was demonstrating against SL. I wasn't even at the forum the time, so how would you know? Investigating skills, huh.

The requirements of the game are not a text book technique but rather the mastery of your own technique, something Khurrum at the ripe age of "31" still hasn't achieved.

What form has Khurrum demonstrated? A bit of bullying against an attack consisting of an over the hill Sami, Imran Khan and Waqas Maqsood- some form to pummel these guys eh.

Weak off side game and weak against lateral movement. Thanks but no thanks.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Sami should be our regular test opener.. give him a year and he will start scoring a lot of hundreds.

 

[MenInG]

Stop getting personal with each other or more posts will be deketed

 

[ask_analyse_act]

Umar amin played as an opener once under dave/misbah in SA against SA...did well against the new ball against philander and tsotsobe where the regular opener shehzad scored a duck and shafiq gone for 1... I still remember his pull shot for six against philander with pure timing and zero power..why wasnt he given another chance as an opener when hafeez was labelled and stamped as steyn's bunny... ODI: http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/685735.html

He likes to open which he said in an interview discussing about his u19 days of cricket where he left the position to his junior ahmed shehzad back then, and promised to not give again or let the team down when gets an opportunity again to open for pakistan.. indeed his cricinfo profile say so that he prefers to open

Umar Amin cricinfo profile: Playing role Top-order batsman "Since 2007, the left-handed Umar Amin has been among the most-talked about batting prospects for a future middle order without Younis Khan and Mohammad Yousuf, even if he prefers opening himself" http://www.espncricinfo.com/pakistan...er/288211.html

Four tests in ENGLAND at the age of 20 and then never return lol while his seniors are feasting runs in UAE... Also hard done by in tests too...

 

[pakistanigoneaussie]

Amin is the kind of player that you suspect will do a manzoor and be quite timid in international cricket.

However given the lack of options id have him if Sharjeel gets banned. Similarly I reckon we should try Farhan against SL in odis as well. I think he is the kind of player that Flower and Micky need to superwise right now, rather than being left to rot in domestic cricket

Fahkar should stay in the mix as well

 

[babajee]

BUMP.

Looked fluid today as he gained confidence. Seems like he would be better than Imam.

 

[Railu Katta]

BUMP.

Looked fluid today as he gained confidence. Seems like he would be better than Imam.

Yes let's replace a guy who scored a debut 100 and then another 40+ in his 3rd game with a mental midget.

 

[babajee]

Yes let's replace a guy who scored a debut 100 and then another 40+ in his 3rd game with a mental midget.

Still not convinced by Imam

and secondly it seems like he has matured.

 

[Mr Brummie]

I think at this stage we should continue with Fakhar and Azhar Ali. The left and right combination is good. Azhar Ali averages 39 albeit at a low strike rate, but he is reliable, steady and can handle the pressure in conditions where the ball is moving around. Azhar put in good performances in the Champions Trophy and deserves the opening slot. I have no issues with Umar Amin being a back up plan, but we may discover some more exciting openers in next year’s PSL.

 

[The_Odd_One]

Yes, will be better than Azhar and Shehzad. Can even replace Imam unless he starts scoring at a better SR.

 

[Extra_Cover]

Agreed, Amin is ideally a top order bat. I can see the partnership between him and Fakhar prospering.

 

[hadi123]

I don't think there's room for him as an ODI opener. Fakhar and Imam were successful against SL and Azhar Ali will come back after his injury. No need for 4 openers in a squad. He's fine in T20s

 

[Syed1]

I don't think there's room for him as an ODI opener. Fakhar and Imam were successful against SL and Azhar Ali will come back after his injury. No need for 4 openers in a squad. He's fine in T20s

Jury is still out on Imam, its not like he has locked down his spot for the next 2 years on the back of one century against minnows Sri Lanka, but he is nepotistic selection so we never know how long he will continue to be selected even if there is no performance.

Azhar Ali is the exact opposite of what we need in a LOI opener.

 

[Extra_Cover]

Jury is still out on Imam, its not like he has locked down his spot for the next 2 years on the back of one century against minnows Sri Lanka, but he is nepotistic selection so we never know how long he will continue to be selected even if there is no performance.

Azhar Ali is the exact opposite of what we need in a LOI opener.

Amin should be the backup opener in the squad. Imam and Azhar are both similar mould players, with them in the team it will be difficult for the team to rack up scores of 300 plus. In NZ, we need scores of 300+ on those small grounds.

Amin likes pace on ball and I reckon he would enjoy batting in NZ conditions and prosper there.

 

[shah_1]

Umin should replace Hafeez if professor fails his bowling test.

 

[DRsohail]

[MENTION=79064]MMHS[/MENTION] inzi did it a a beautiful way and now imam has semented his place bay bashing minnow.amin is out though he deserves it and should have been in odi for Azhar ali.

 

[Arham_PakFan]

Amin should play at 4,if he does get a spot in the XI,but Babar has made the no.3 spot his own and Haris should slot in at 4.Sarfraz should ideally bat at 5 but we have Malik there.

I have my doubts on Amin.When he last played,back in 2013-2014,he looked like a mental midget.Played decently yesterday,so deseves an extended run in T20I’s.If he does well,should get into the ODI squd.

 

[another drop catch]

Imam should be first choice opener (fully deserved) with Azhar as back up . . . . . . . .
Still not conviced by Amin's style of play but he can be used as backup for hafeez @ no.4
Harris should be dropped from 16 man squad till he improve his fitness
once Harris gains full fitness then he should replace both of them