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Three militants and a soldier were killed on Saturday in a gunfight in south Kashmir's Pulwama district, while six civilians died after forces opened fire on protesters in subsequent clashes in the area.

The gunfight broke out in Kharpora Sirnoo village after the government forces launched a cordon-and-search-operation following a tip-off about the presence of militants.

An army spokesman in Srinagar said that three militants and a soldier were killed in the gunfight.

The identities of the slain militants were being ascertained, said a police officer.
Sources said that six civilians were killed after forces opened fire on protesters near the site of the gunfight.

The slain civilians were identified as Shahbaz Ali, resident of Monghama village, Suhail Ahmad of Bellow, Liyaqat Ahmad from Parigam, Murtaza of Prichoo, Amir Ahmad Palla of Ashminder and Abid Hussain Lone of Kareemabad.

Source: https://www.greaterkashmir.com/news...illed-in-pulwama-gunfight-clashes/306263.html
 
Civilian toll reaches 7 now.

Abid Hussain, one of those killed, was an MBA return from Indonesia who had come to visit his family. He leaves behind his Indonesian Wife and a 3 month old child.
 
More than 200 injured. Many critically. Pulwama hospital in dire need of blood.
 
Pulwama killings: JRL calls for three-day shutdown, ‘Badam Bagh chalo’ on Monday

Joint Resistance Leadership (JRL) on Saturday called for a three-day shutdown and mourning in Kashmir against the killings of seven civilians and three militants in southern Pulwama district.
“From today onwards for three days mourning and complete protest strike will be observed all across,” said the Mirwaiz on Twitter.

“Bullets and pellets rain! As Govt of India has decided to kill Kashmiri’s through its #ArmedForces who control us,JRL and people will march towards Badami Bagh Army cantonment on Monday 17 Dec to ask GOI to kill all of us at one time rather than killing us daily,” he said, in another tweet.

Three militants and an army soldier were killed in a gunfight in Kharpora Sarnooi village, while seven civilians died after the forces opened fire on protesters in subsequent clashes.

Source: https://www.greaterkashmir.com/news...utdown-badam-bagh-chalo-on-monday/306272.html
 
This happened near my home and I Lost my three friends today at the hands of blood thirst army. Please kill us all once so we will be free from this trauma. Our life has been made hell.
 
m.shah said:
This happened near my home and I Lost my three friends today at the hands of blood thirst army. Please kill us all once so we will be free from this trauma. Our life has been made hell.
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Thats what Mirwaiz is saying. “Bullets and pellets rain! As Govt of India has decided to kill Kashmiri’s through its #ArmedForces who control us,JRL and people will march towards Badami Bagh Army cantonment on Monday 17 Dec to ask GOI to kill all of us at one time rather than killing us daily,” Mirwaiz Umar Farooq

Wont it be better if they nuke us once and for all? It would be in everybody's interests.
 
m.shah said:
This happened near my home and I Lost my three friends today at the hands of blood thirst army. Please kill us all once so we will be free from this trauma. Our life has been made hell.
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By the way, really sorry for your loss. 3 friends in one day. Oh God, oh God!
 
Madplayer said:
Thats what Mirwaiz is saying. “Bullets and pellets rain! As Govt of India has decided to kill Kashmiri’s through its #ArmedForces who control us,JRL and people will march towards Badami Bagh Army cantonment on Monday 17 Dec to ask GOI to kill all of us at one time rather than killing us daily,” Mirwaiz Umar Farooq

Wont it be better if they nuke us once and for all? It would be in everybody's interests.
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It will be much better if they kill us all at once that will be easy than this daily pain.
 
hisham_ashraf said:
This has become unbearable now.So sorry for your loss.I am lost for words..
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A father is going out to bring milk for three month old daughter shot dead.. A boy shot dead was not being identified. Meanwhile a person in the crowd casually came to see the face of martyer and fainted saying "ye chu me nechu".. He is my son.
 
m.shah said:
A father is going out to bring milk for three month old daughter shot dead.. A boy shot dead was not being identified. Meanwhile a person in the crowd casually came to see the face of martyer and fainted saying "ye chu me nechu".. He is my son.
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This breaks my heart.Yuta zulm.
 
m.shah said:
Thanks bro.. It was a massacre and so many are critical.
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There are several others critically injured. All shot with pellets and bullets in the head, chest and abdomen area. I pray to God that the toll doesnt rise any higher.
 
I wonder how long it will be before the authorities start putting out news that all the casualties were militants?
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
I wonder how long it will be before the authorities start putting out news that all the casualties were militants?
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and it will be at that stage when some of usual posters will emerge to defend this atrocity....
 
m.shah said:
This happened near my home and I Lost my three friends today at the hands of blood thirst army. Please kill us all once so we will be free from this trauma. Our life has been made hell.
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Sorry for your loss, condolences.
 
m.shah said:
A father is going out to bring milk for three month old daughter shot dead.. A boy shot dead was not being identified. Meanwhile a person in the crowd casually came to see the face of martyer and fainted saying "ye chu me nechu".. He is my son.
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read up on malcolm x, take inspiration from him
 
The murder of civilians is most unfortunate, the trigger happy soldiers/paramilitary/police deserve to face the law for their crimes. Unfortunately in India uniformed people are placed on a pedestal and tough questions are avoided in spite of overwhelming evidence of human rights violations in Kashmir, Central India and North East. In a civilized country there should be harsh punishment in such cases but India is far from civilized, a typical 3rd world country with law breaking citizens running amok. Soldiers are drawn from the same population and exhibit all the negative traits that are common among the wider population at large.

Btw another feather in the cap for Modi government, their all out reckless approach in Kashmir, forced political turmoil and alienation of the youth of the valley has taken us back to the 90s. Now the people are more alienated than ever before. Also high time Hindutva extremists realize that their cow violence, targeting of minorities, hate speeches and extremism will have amplified ramifications in Muslim majority Kashmir. What may catch them votes in some some place will make people in some other place hate the nation more than ever before. Kashmiris are more insecure and scared/panicky now, especially after the events post 2014.

And when will we realize that people can't be ruled over against their wishes for eternity? It may take 100 years, 1000 years, 2000 years but at some point the inevitable will occur, this is what history teaches us. Even the most powerful of empires haven't ruled over an unwilling populace forever. It is up to us whether we should allow more bloodshed over many years or take the painful but necessary step to part ways, thus bringing the partition saga to a final logical conclusion.

Gorbachev saved untold misery and potentially millions of lives by dissolving the USSR, he is seen as a traitor among certain circles but what he did was the right thing. I hope India produces a similar leader who can take the correct decision to solve the problem for once and for all. Better to have referendum now so that the suffering (all sides) ends, let Kashmiris decide their own destiny and after that let them own up to their decision. Hope Pakistan also joins in to start the due (referendum) process as per UN guidelines, ordinary Kashmiris have become pawns in this complex game involving more than 1 faction. Pakistan too needs to own up to its mistakes (like supporting cross border terror, propping up radicalization in the valley, political one-upmanship), course correct and be ready to follow the UN process in true spirit.
 
This is very sad man :-( Military and Militancy needs to be removed Kashmir. Guns won't take this issue anywhere. It has to be resolved by dialogue. No more civilian, militant, military or police killings. Resolve it in a civilised way.
 
Cycle of violence will continue until India see's the wisdom in leaving the valley. Blaming Pak will achieve nothing. Cheap Indian threats of doing this or that too Pak are ven more laughable. At the end of the day it's the Indian army and people of IoK that are dying.
 
Swashbuckler said:
The murder of civilians is most unfortunate, the trigger happy soldiers/paramilitary/police deserve to face the law for their crimes. Unfortunately in India uniformed people are placed on a pedestal and tough questions are avoided in spite of overwhelming evidence of human rights violations in Kashmir, Central India and North East. In a civilized country there should be harsh punishment in such cases but India is far from civilized, a typical 3rd world country with law breaking citizens running amok. Soldiers are drawn from the same population and exhibit all the negative traits that are common among the wider population at large.

Btw another feather in the cap for Modi government, their all out reckless approach in Kashmir, forced political turmoil and alienation of the youth of the valley has taken us back to the 90s. Now the people are more alienated than ever before. Also high time Hindutva extremists realize that their cow violence, targeting of minorities, hate speeches and extremism will have amplified ramifications in Muslim majority Kashmir. What may catch them votes in some some place will make people in some other place hate the nation more than ever before. Kashmiris are more insecure and scared/panicky now, especially after the events post 2014.

And when will we realize that people can't be ruled over against their wishes for eternity? It may take 100 years, 1000 years, 2000 years but at some point the inevitable will occur, this is what history teaches us. Even the most powerful of empires haven't ruled over an unwilling populace forever. It is up to us whether we should allow more bloodshed over many years or take the painful but necessary step to part ways, thus bringing the partition saga to a final logical conclusion.

Gorbachev saved untold misery and potentially millions of lives by dissolving the USSR, he is seen as a traitor among certain circles but what he did was the right thing. I hope India produces a similar leader who can take the correct decision to solve the problem for once and for all. Better to have referendum now so that the suffering (all sides) ends, let Kashmiris decide their own destiny and after that let them own up to their decision. Hope Pakistan also joins in to start the due (referendum) process as per UN guidelines, ordinary Kashmiris have become pawns in this complex game involving more than 1 faction. Pakistan too needs to own up to its mistakes (like supporting cross border terror, propping up radicalization in the valley, political one-upmanship), course correct and be ready to follow the UN process in true spirit.
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I fully agree at the end we are loosing our young generation. We are loosing our gems like look at Dr Manan wani he was such a genius genocide of Kashmiris make him took the extreme step but was killed within no time. It is about time that india realises the situation of kashmir and allow space for referendum. Hell even wipe out the laws like AFSPA and PSA but knowing Indian govt they don't give any value to our lives. Kashmir has become a vote bank for them. If only our fain was felt by common Indian people things would have not been such bad.
 
Josh said:
This is very sad man :-( Military and Militancy needs to be removed Kashmir. Guns won't take this issue anywhere. It has to be resolved by dialogue. No more civilian, militant, military or police killings. Resolve it in a civilised way.
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The truth is if kashmir issue is solved Indian government will lose its vote Bank otherwise it don't take any genius to understand the ground reality of kashmir.
 
PakLFC said:
Cycle of violence will continue until India see's the wisdom in leaving the valley. Blaming Pak will achieve nothing. Cheap Indian threats of doing this or that too Pak are ven more laughable. At the end of the day it's the Indian army and people of IoK that are dying.
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Exactly bro
 
Kishan Singh Rathore from Rajasthan got martyred before sending the 3 militants to Jahannum.
Om Shanti.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PulwamaMassacre?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PulwamaMassacre</a>,Bullets and pellets rain!As Govt of India has decided to kill Kashmiri’s through its <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ArmedForces?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ArmedForces</a> who control us,JRL and people will march towards Badami Bagh Army cantonment on Monday 17 Dec to ask GOI to kill all of us at one time rather than killing us daily..</p>— Mirwaiz Umar Farooq (@MirwaizKashmir) <a href="https://twitter.com/MirwaizKashmir/status/1073851853094428672?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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that's why the BJP remaining in power is a blessing in disguise, because as if the 10 000s of deaths weren't enough, it'll teach to the "Sheikh Abdullah's" that as a Muslim-majority region you can't live under Hindu ideologues, whereas the Congress with its so called "Indian nationalism and diversity" somehow finds local collaborators - with BJP these same peoples would lose all semblance of credibility.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Strongly condemn killing of innocent Kashmiri civilians in Pulwama IOK by Indian security forces. Only dialogue & not violence & killings will resolve this conflict. We will raise issue of India's human rights violations in IOK & demand UNSC fulfil its J&K plebiscite commitment</p>— Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) <a href="https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status/1074291793775218689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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m.shah said:
This happened near my home and I Lost my three friends today at the hands of blood thirst army. Please kill us all once so we will be free from this trauma. Our life has been made hell.
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Sorry for your loss.
 
Swashbuckler said:
The murder of civilians is most unfortunate, the trigger happy soldiers/paramilitary/police deserve to face the law for their crimes. Unfortunately in India uniformed people are placed on a pedestal and tough questions are avoided in spite of overwhelming evidence of human rights violations in Kashmir, Central India and North East. In a civilized country there should be harsh punishment in such cases but India is far from civilized, a typical 3rd world country with law breaking citizens running amok. Soldiers are drawn from the same population and exhibit all the negative traits that are common among the wider population at large.

Btw another feather in the cap for Modi government, their all out reckless approach in Kashmir, forced political turmoil and alienation of the youth of the valley has taken us back to the 90s. Now the people are more alienated than ever before. Also high time Hindutva extremists realize that their cow violence, targeting of minorities, hate speeches and extremism will have amplified ramifications in Muslim majority Kashmir. What may catch them votes in some some place will make people in some other place hate the nation more than ever before. Kashmiris are more insecure and scared/panicky now, especially after the events post 2014.

And when will we realize that people can't be ruled over against their wishes for eternity? It may take 100 years, 1000 years, 2000 years but at some point the inevitable will occur, this is what history teaches us. Even the most powerful of empires haven't ruled over an unwilling populace forever. It is up to us whether we should allow more bloodshed over many years or take the painful but necessary step to part ways, thus bringing the partition saga to a final logical conclusion.

Gorbachev saved untold misery and potentially millions of lives by dissolving the USSR, he is seen as a traitor among certain circles but what he did was the right thing. I hope India produces a similar leader who can take the correct decision to solve the problem for once and for all. Better to have referendum now so that the suffering (all sides) ends, let Kashmiris decide their own destiny and after that let them own up to their decision. Hope Pakistan also joins in to start the due (referendum) process as per UN guidelines, ordinary Kashmiris have become pawns in this complex game involving more than 1 faction. Pakistan too needs to own up to its mistakes (like supporting cross border terror, propping up radicalization in the valley, political one-upmanship), course correct and be ready to follow the UN process in true spirit.
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Pakistan has nothing to do with this. Since the late nineties to this day the Pakistani government has asked for cooperation, conciliation, negotiation and diplomacy at every turn. They have gone to the UN, even had certain plans supported by the US and UK. All this and the Indian government has repeatedly turned them down.

Read your history and politics.
 
barah_admi said:
Pakistan has nothing to do with this. Since the late nineties to this day the Pakistani government has asked for cooperation, conciliation, negotiation and diplomacy at every turn. They have gone to the UN, even had certain plans supported by the US and UK. All this and the Indian government has repeatedly turned them down.

Read your history and politics.
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Are you denying Kashmir specific cross border terror and terror training camps in your side of Kashmir? How can Pakistan be an innocent party here?

I don't need to read history, politics. Perhaps you need to be less biased.
 
enkidu_ said:
that's why the BJP remaining in power is a blessing in disguise, because as if the 10 000s of deaths weren't enough, it'll teach to the "Sheikh Abdullah's" that as a Muslim-majority region you can't live under Hindu ideologues, whereas the Congress with its so called "Indian nationalism and diversity" somehow finds local collaborators - with BJP these same peoples would lose all semblance of credibility.
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Interesting way to look at things - on one hand you say that a BJP government = more dead Kashmiris and then you say it's a blessing in disguise. That's a sad way to treat your so called Kashmiri brethren, as political pawns who you don't mind seeing killed as long as it furthers your political cause. You are really no different to the right wing nutters in India who also see the Kashmiris as pawns.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I totally support Imran Bhai! I have always maintained the same. Justice must be delivered, Kashmiris must get to decide their future. <a href="https://t.co/oZdITYh6y2">https://t.co/oZdITYh6y2</a></p>— Shahid Afridi (@SAfridiOfficial) <a href="https://twitter.com/SAfridiOfficial/status/1074305391922700289?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 16, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Gabbar Singh said:
Interesting way to look at things - on one hand you say that a BJP government = more dead Kashmiris and then you say it's a blessing in disguise. That's a sad way to treat your so called Kashmiri brethren, as political pawns who you don't mind seeing killed as long as it furthers your political cause. You are really no different to the right wing nutters in India who also see the Kashmiris as pawns.
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BJP, Congress, etc whatever comes = dead Kashmiris, it's that simple, but at least BJP/Hindu nationalists openly own it because of its ideology, while the Congress will sugarcoat it in a hundred ways. At least with BJP the very very very few aiming to remain within the federation will get automatically sidelined. Ofc ideally no Kashmiri should get hurt let alone die, but you can't expect this under Hindu authority.
 
Argument:

What are you guys doing near the encounter sites?

Response:

Where do you think these encounter sites are? In JP Duttas films?
These encounter sites are where we live.These sites are our homes. Where should we be if not there?In our homes, our neighbourhoods? #KashmirBleeds
 
UN talkz said:
Argument:

What are you guys doing near the encounter sites?

Response:

Where do you think these encounter sites are? In JP Duttas films?
These encounter sites are where we live.These sites are our homes. Where should we be if not there?In our homes, our neighbourhoods? #KashmirBleeds
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What about helping militants and throwing stones?
 
Sachin136 said:
What about helping militants and throwing stones?
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This is a request to all Indian brothers over here, when you know nothing about what's happening in Kashmir, it's better to not talk about it rather than posting nonsense.

Infants are being killed here and maimed by pellets, a father who gets out to buy milk for his 3 year old son doesn't return, instead his dead body returns. Teens are being killed, massacres happen everyday, no one "picked gun or was 'helping militants' in 2008, 2010 or 2016, but they were still killed, thousands were killed, women gang raped by Indian Army, In 2008 people protested against rape and murder of Asiya and Neelofar by Army, no one was throwing stones, no one was a militant, they were still killed.

Today in 2012 Nirbhaya thing happened, whole India was on steets protesting, no one was killed, no one was even seriously injured, in fact a policeman was killed by protesters in Delhi, when Kashmiris did same in 2008 or when they protested against Kunan Poshpora Mass Rape case when Indian Army raped 47 women in a village, they got bullets and bullets, they were massacred as if it is some video game.
 
Sachin136 said:
What about helping militants and throwing stones?
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The killings did not happen at the encounter site. Army had already killed militants and they were leaving the village and on their way to camp were pelted with stones as naturally people were angry as army killed militants. Still army could have totally avoided the killings and should have refrained from firing bullets directly. Sick minded tertorist in uniforms
 
UN talkz said:
This is a request to all Indian brothers over here, when you know nothing about what's happening in Kashmir, it's better to not talk about it rather than posting nonsense.

Infants are being killed here and maimed by pellets, a father who gets out to buy milk for his 3 year old son doesn't return, instead his dead body returns. Teens are being killed, massacres happen everyday, no one "picked gun or was 'helping militants' in 2008, 2010 or 2016, but they were still killed, thousands were killed, women gang raped by Indian Army, In 2008 people protested against rape and murder of Asiya and Neelofar by Army, no one was throwing stones, no one was a militant, they were still killed.

Today in 2012 Nirbhaya thing happened, whole India was on steets protesting, no one was killed, no one was even seriously injured, in fact a policeman was killed by protesters in Delhi, when Kashmiris did same in 2008 or when they protested against Kunan Poshpora Mass Rape case when Indian Army raped 47 women in a village, they got bullets and bullets, they were massacred as if it is some video game.
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Excellent post and thank you for being the one to do it.
 
UN talkz said:
This is a request to all Indian brothers over here, when you know nothing about what's happening in Kashmir, it's better to not talk about it rather than posting nonsense.

Infants are being killed here and maimed by pellets, a father who gets out to buy milk for his 3 year old son doesn't return, instead his dead body returns. Teens are being killed, massacres happen everyday, no one "picked gun or was 'helping militants' in 2008, 2010 or 2016, but they were still killed, thousands were killed, women gang raped by Indian Army, In 2008 people protested against rape and murder of Asiya and Neelofar by Army, no one was throwing stones, no one was a militant, they were still killed.

Today in 2012 Nirbhaya thing happened, whole India was on steets protesting, no one was killed, no one was even seriously injured, in fact a policeman was killed by protesters in Delhi, when Kashmiris did same in 2008 or when they protested against Kunan Poshpora Mass Rape case when Indian Army raped 47 women in a village, they got bullets and bullets, they were massacred as if it is some video game.
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I love this post.There is one thing though which I have realized, no matter how well you explain,no matter how many proofs/facts you provide in your post, they (Indians) will never understand it.They are ignorant and hypocrite.They know nothing about this issue, they don't know how we live our lives here yet they will act as they know everything.Yim gayi khar jamaat
 
UN talkz said:
This is a request to all Indian brothers over here, when you know nothing about what's happening in Kashmir, it's better to not talk about it rather than posting nonsense.

Infants are being killed here and maimed by pellets, a father who gets out to buy milk for his 3 year old son doesn't return, instead his dead body returns. Teens are being killed, massacres happen everyday, no one "picked gun or was 'helping militants' in 2008, 2010 or 2016, but they were still killed, thousands were killed, women gang raped by Indian Army, In 2008 people protested against rape and murder of Asiya and Neelofar by Army, no one was throwing stones, no one was a militant, they were still killed.

Today in 2012 Nirbhaya thing happened, whole India was on steets protesting, no one was killed, no one was even seriously injured, in fact a policeman was killed by protesters in Delhi, when Kashmiris did same in 2008 or when they protested against Kunan Poshpora Mass Rape case when Indian Army raped 47 women in a village, they got bullets and bullets, they were massacred as if it is some video game.
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There do exist some Indians (both muslims and non muslims) who seriously sympathises with your cause and loss of lives but are helpless as we have no power rest in our hands. Our whole population is 1.3 billion, humanity is not lost on everyone...
 
Swashbuckler said:
Are you denying Kashmir specific cross border terror and terror training camps in your side of Kashmir? How can Pakistan be an innocent party here?

I don't need to read history, politics. Perhaps you need to be less biased.
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I have not stated any personal opinions.

What this thread is about has nothing to do with Pakistan. No Pakistani soldier forced an Indian soldier to shoot civilians. Can you prove me wrong?
 
The OIC General Secretariat Condemns the Killing of Innocent People in Jammu and Kashmir
Date: 16/12/2018

The General Secretariat of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) expressed strong condemnation of the killing of innocent Kashmiris by Indian forces in Indian-occupied Kashmir (IOK) where direct shooting at demonstrators in Pulwama region claimed the lives of a number of innocent citizens and injured others.

The OIC General Secretariat condemned this terrorist act and called upon the international community to play its role in order to reach a just and lasting solution to the conflict in Kashmir, in accordance with the relevant international resolutions adopted by the OIC and the UN Security Council, and fulfill the aspirations of the Kashmiri people.

The General Secretariat expressed condolences to the families of the innocent victims who lost their lives as a result of this wicked terrorist act and wished the wounded prompt recovery.

https://www.oic-oci.org/topic/?t_id=20403&t_ref=11630&lan=en
 
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