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So, Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan were not the problem in our T20I side?

Rizwan is never in contention for the WC squad.... Babar's name is circulating though...
 
topspin said:
In case you missed my last post.

Here you go:

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Post in thread 'Karachi Kings (204/4) crush Multan Sultans (117) by 87 runs in match 20 of PSL X'

Rana said:
So what now? He is a Harmison already?
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Better than him already with the potential to become M.Asif 2.0 if he works on his seam deliveries more.

Look at Post 100

Not only did you see he's already surpassed Harmison, you also claimed he would be Asif 2.0.
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Bro this is like Will Sutherland aggressively calling out Rizwan to retire for this bloke :ROFLMAO:

He had to go into hiding after this
 
Rana said:
Bro this is like Will Sutherland aggressively calling out Rizwan to retire for this bloke :ROFLMAO:

He had to go into hiding after this
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@Muhammad Saad

I am still waiting for your acceptance and perhaps more importantly your rationale on how Ubaid Shah has already surpassed Steve Harmison.
 
Rizwan time in t20 team is pretty much over

I don't think he will be considered for future in t20

So should focus on odi and tests

Same goes for Babar it will be his last T20 WC
 
shah9425 said:
Rizwan time in t20 team is pretty much over

I don't think he will be considered for future in t20

So should focus on odi and tests

Same goes for Babar it will be his last T20 WC
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Hoping it's memorable one
 
Kianig89 said:
Will like to know what are Pakistan's PP avg score post RizBar?

also the W/L post RizBar specially excl. minnows?
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What was the first game that both of them found themselves out of the team? you have to remember too we have played a lot of garbage teams at home in that period
 
GudduBadmash said:
What was the first game that both of them found themselves out of the team? you have to remember too we have played a lot of garbage teams at home in that period
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14/4 in PP I remember exactly, yes since that jodi got broken we've been thumped 4/0 by India , though successfully defeated SL Zim & Aus E.
 
RIZWAN was a culprit, however even bigger culprits were brought back and ran the team into the ground!

Bigger losers are:

Shadab
Nawaz
Faheem
Usman K
Salman Ali Agha

Hogging half the team. Can’t win with them in the team.
 
Sachin fan said:
Werent you losing to the likes of USA with Rizbar in the team? So things have improved surely.
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Farhan strikes at 115 vs SENA+India. of course you are doing bhangra over that as an Indian fan. Pak reached SF in 2021 and F in 2022. Looks like Super 8 in 2026 so hardly an improvement. 2024 had some bad luck with the rain even if the USA game was a lowpoint thanks to choker Amir and big mouth Imad.
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Farhan strikes at 115 vs SENA+India. of course you are doing bhangra over that as an Indian fan. Pak reached SF in 2021 and F in 2022. Looks like Super 8 in 2026 so hardly an improvement. 2024 had some bad luck with the rain even if the USA game was a lowpoint thanks to choker Amir and big mouth Imad.
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Babar’s batting was awful in that match
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Farhan strikes at 115 vs SENA+India. of course you are doing bhangra over that as an Indian fan. Pak reached SF in 2021 and F in 2022. Looks like Super 8 in 2026 so hardly an improvement. 2024 had some bad luck with the rain even if the USA game was a lowpoint thanks to choker Amir and big mouth Imad.
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Babar has a strike rate of 87 in power plays, the slowest among all batsmen who have ever played t20s.
 
Sachin fan said:
Werent you losing to the likes of USA with Rizbar in the team? So things have improved surely.
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That was an anomaly , also the loss was more due to bowlers than batsmen , and how have we improved now.
Under this regime we've played 5 x real pressure games 4 with India and 1 with Eng.

If you don't know , We've lost all 5 in a thrashing way.
 
Kianig89 said:
That was an anomaly , also the loss was more due to bowlers than batsmen , and how have we improved now.
Under this regime we've played 5 x real pressure games 4 with India and 1 with Eng.

If you don't know , We've lost all 5 in a thrashing way.
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We have lost these games because of Rizwan. He did not allow our talented youngsters to flourish.
 
Wasim Ghulam said:
Rizwan is garbage t20 player who tries to hack everything on leg side. A miserable failure in Aus conditions , Nothing changed since 2022 T20 wc in Aus and we witnessed that in BBL
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You mean a miserable failure in T20
In Aus conditions I hope? Because yes agreed he is poor in Australia in the shorter format but absolutely gun in the longer formats
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
Ok but why couldn't Amer bowl a half decent super over? Why did Rauf choke? Why did hero Imad ice cool finisher with all his bongeeyaan in TV shows choke vs India chasing 120?
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Your whataboutism is a nice cop out.

Tell me why Babar couldn't perform vs USA.

Why has Babar not performed in a single moment since that fluke India game chasing 152 and the fact you will keep milking it for the next 15 years.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Your whataboutism is a nice cop out.

Tell me why Babar couldn't perform vs USA.

Why has Babar not performed in a single moment since that fluke India game chasing 152 and the fact you will keep milking it for the next 15 years.
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If anyone questions the performances of players not named babar and Rizwan it's whataboutism.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
Your whataboutism is a nice cop out.

Tell me why Babar couldn't perform vs USA.

Why has Babar not performed in a single moment since that fluke India game chasing 152 and the fact you will keep milking it for the next 15 years.
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What cop out? Who can perform in every game? Why is Farhan pathetic vs Sena and India? If you are depending on Babar to bail you out vs USA that says it all.

Who won WC semi final 2022 for us? Remember?
 
RizwanT20Champ said:
What cop out? Who can perform in every game? Why is Farhan pathetic vs Sena and India? If you are depending on Babar to bail you out vs USA that says it all.

Who won WC semi final 2022 for us? Remember?
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Bhai 4 Saal hogaye.

Don't keep leeching and flogging a dead horse.
 
They were not. It was the lack of quick scorers. Unlike others these two were able to consolidate an innings and super consistent as well. Instead of ditching them Pakistan should have built a team around them with quick scorers and pinch hitters and allrounders. Have one of them at the top and the other in the middle. A team can afford 2 consolidators if they are reliably consistent. Yes their consistency wont come at the required rr/sr often but that's the job of other batters. They don't have to worry about losing wicket and try and dominate the bowlers while these 2 give them able support at the other end.
 
None of them were going at a higher sr but these two atleast were scoring consistently dunno why they got more hatred than other tuk tuks who couldn't score as much
 
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