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South Africa (181/3) defeat England (179) comprehensively by 7 wickets to advance to semi-finals of ICC Champions Trophy 2025

Why are both of batsman playing with 50 strike rate ??

Ohh they lost 6 Wickets by playing the 6 RPO so back to the basic cricket

:kp
 
What inner Rizwan? Is he batting left handed or with his eyes closed for England?

He might as well be cause they has a Pakistan like collapse. Actually more so their own doing as they could've tried slowing down earlier when they lost the first 3 wickets.

This here is the flag ship team of the brand of cricket that you've been advocating. Yet they're struggling and are also out of the tournament like us.
 
England can still comeback as a great force in LOIs. They are not a bad team but they have wrong players who can't play ODIs. They just need to kick few players out, bring new proper players like Banton in the system again who can play 50 over cricket unlike Salt the slogger, bits & pieces Liam Livingstone, Overton etc.
 
Why are both of batsman playing with 50 strike rate ??

Ohh they lost 6 Wickets by playing the 6 RPO so back to the basic cricket


:kp

Looking at the score they didn't exactly go ballistic to get out. I think in Tests it works because field is more attacking. in LOIs with slightly defensive field sets they lose their plot.
 
Aandhi aaye

Toofan aye

Lekin Pakistan ko phir bhi baja dain ghe
So basically we're garbage, but not as garbage as Pakistan? :ROFLMAO:

Good to know you have such high standards. From World Champions to comparing your team with Pakistan and Bangladesh :rabada2

I just hope that koi aandhi ya toofan England ko finally aik match jita dey kisi din.
 
England need to bring back Sam Bilings back & make him ODI Captain Will Jacks & Ollie Pope should also be part of ODI Squad
 
Other teams: 'We will score 210-220 by the 40th over and accelerate in the last 10.'

England: 'Hopefully we will play out 40 overs today.'
 
Yeah they lost 6 wickets

Not 0 wickets like Pakistan who still bat at this sr
Pakistan is rubbish team so that is very low standards

Take NZ example when they lost the 3 early wickets against Pakistan in 1st match then build a partnership by scoring 4-5 run per overs.

At the end overs they smashed pakistan bowlers because they had wicket in the hand.

You have to respect the conditions .
:kp
 
England need to bring back Sam Bilings back & make him ODI Captain Will Jacks & Ollie Pope should also be part of ODI Squad
Exactly

Top class players are still not featuring.

Will Jacks
Sam Curran
Sam Billings

Even the current players are very good, they are just mentally shot atm
 
Ironically in the entire CT only the matches involving England looked decent. England vs Afghanistan and ENgland vs Australia. Rest of the matches were one-sided.
 
This is like watching 90s Pamela Anderson for you isn’t it?

Whether it's Baywatch or Rescue hi-surf, the concept hasn't changed. Similarly in cricket you gotta play out 50 overs, the basics haven't changed
 
I wish England would have been oncourse for atleast 270. Would have liked to see Klaasen bashing English bowlers again.
 
They can bring anyone but if they have to Play same brainless cricket than nothing will be changed.

:kp
Oh bhai what brainless cricket ?

This is a 350 track. They don’t care to settle for 270-280! You are better off shot out for 150 on a track like this if your going to score below par! That’s how they want to play, ya tou win hai ya tou ghar jao! No learn!
 
Oh bhai what brainless cricket ?

This is a 350 track. They don’t care to settle for 270-280! You are better off shot out for 150 on a track like this if your going to score below par! That’s how they want to play, ya tou win hai ya tou ghar jao! No learn!
Salt , Smith , brooks, And Livingston all were threw away their wickets by playing brainless cricket .

They can only score 330+ if they have wickets in the hand .

:kp
 
The nerve of khites to complain about such a small number of games in the upcoming psl season when they don't turn out at all for big cricket matches involving two major teams.

PCB should curtail their investment in Cricket in this city and focus more on smaller cities.
 
You shouldn't be taking shots at Afghanistan considering they just beat you. Demolished England in the World Cup too.
Why don’t you specify what you mean by other teams then?

Puttar you ain’t winning a debate with me on white ball cricket and how to play it. Believe that!
 
159/7 in 32 overs. Run-rate: 5.04.

Agar insanon ki tarah shuro se iss run-rate pe khel liya hota tou shyd abhi 7 wickets na giri hoti.
 
Lowest average for an England top order batter (1-3) in an ICC ODI event

5.5 - Derek Randall, ICC WC 1979
6.0 - Jason Roy, ICC CT 2017
8.0 - Jamie Smith, ICC CT 2025
9.0 - Gary Ballance, ICC WC 2015
10.0 - Phil Salt, ICC CT 2025

*Min 3 inns
 
Why don’t you specify what you mean by other teams then?

Puttar you ain’t winning a debate with me on white ball cricket and how to play it. Believe that!
Shhh...win a match first :rabada

If my team was on a 6 match losing streak (soon to be 7) and struggling to play out 50 overs, I wouldn't be talking about how much better they are than a worse team. Where is this confidence coming from exactly?

Also, no team is looking for white-ball lessons from a team that has lost 18 of their last 25 matches.
 
Buttler has played a maiden over against Maharaj. Wow

Andhi aa gyi , toofan bhi aa gya but why is Buttler not playing the agressive cricket

:kp
 
Shhh...win a match first :rabada

If my team was on a 6 match losing streak (soon to be 7) and struggling to play out 50 overs, I wouldn't be talking about how much better they are than a worse team. Where is this confidence coming from exactly?

Also, no team is looking for white-ball lessons from a team that has lost 18 of their last 25 matches.
If you can’t shh after the consisten Zalalat you have been advocating for, then don’t tell others to shhh.
 
@mominsaigol why are you so hurt with England losing? Just to support your fearless leader?

I was starting to appreciate you as a poster as you're indulging in a variety of different topics. Yeh chamchagiri kab choro ge?
 
His career sr is 115

That’s Babar and Rizwan’s combined sr in this tournament
I never compared Buttler to Rizwan/ Babar because Buttler is better limited over player.

Problem is the England batsman approach . they have to Stop Playing the brainless cricket

:kp
 
If you can’t shh after the consisten Zalalat you have been advocating for, then don’t tell others to shhh.
What's funny is that when it comes to Pakistan cricket team you love to open your mouth, share your opinions and be critical. BUt when it comes to critiquing this rubbish England ODI side you decide to bend over backwards to defend mediocrity.
 
Shhh...win a match first :rabada

If my team was on a 6 match losing streak (soon to be 7) and struggling to play out 50 overs, I wouldn't be talking about how much better they are than a worse team. Where is this confidence coming from exactly?

Also, no team is looking for white-ball lessons from a team that has lost 18 of their last 25 matches.
Don't wanna engage with you and rana, just found this comment very interesting and wanted to give my take on it.

team that has lost 18 of their last 25 matches.

The issue with England is that their treating all formats as one and the same = All 3. As a result you have players who just don't understand formats.

Phil Salt is just not an odi player by any means. 32 avg and 114 sr is good for a t20 player but for an odi opener it's just okay. He's out of form atm but his peak isn't that good. Even the likes of Travis would loves dominating off the get go avg 40+ in odi.

Ben duckett is probably their only all format player atm. Root himself just isn't that good in odi. He functioned well in 2019 when all he had to do was rotate and everyone could bash but overall he's always had a terrible conversion rate in odi. 90% of the time 50 to 60 is his ceiling.

Brooks is useless in whiteball unless you play on a pitch where spin is non existent. Livingstone is also a t20 player only.

Jamie smith is not a no 3 so no idea what England were even trying to do their. He's not a good new ball player unless he's well settled in tests. In tests he gets out anytime he walks in and the new ball is available right off the bat.

To top it off their pace bowling atm is worse then even Pakistan. Their spin department is better only due to Adil rasheed but he's one man.
 
What's funny is that when it comes to Pakistan cricket team you love to open your mouth, share your opinions and be critical. BUt when it comes to critiquing this rubbish England ODI side you decide to bend over backwards to defend mediocrity.
How do you know I don’t critique other teams?? And what is your issue if I Tunn ke rakh Pakistan more? I’m allowed to be extra critical of whoever I want!
 
@mominsaigol why are you so hurt with England losing? Just to support your fearless leader?

I was starting to appreciate you as a poster as you're indulging in a variety of different topics. Yeh chamchagiri kab choro ge?
why are you so hurt with England losing?

Wait? Where did you get this from? I dont like england bhai, their an arch rival to Australia 🤣.

I was just commenting on how Butler pulling a rizwan is a dumb comment. Rizwan isn't a chase master or a rescuer like Miandad 🤣.

England is a pathetic team atm, why would anyone want to actively support such a team? Rn their probably the most dissapointing team in world cricket with the exception of Pakistan and Bangladesh who are more dissappinting.

I was starting to appreciate you as a poster as you're indulging in a variety of different topics

Thanks, but again, idk where you got the whole me being hurt on england losing lol. Ive started to hate this team which is kinda sad as in 2019 i use to fear them and was deeply upset when aus got eliminated by these guys
 
South Africa captain Aiden Markram is off the field with a hamstring injury, and will bat if necessary.

Heinrich Klaasen is leading the side in his absence. If only England were batting well, that could actually have been significant.
 
How do you know I don’t critique other teams?? And what is your issue if I Tunn ke rakh Pakistan more? I’m allowed to be extra critical of whoever I want!
Arey bhai thori si tou self-reflection karlay? All the time you are calling out posters for defending mediocre Pak players. And yet here you are defending mediocre England players and this garbage England ODI team. Do you really have no sense of self-awareness?
 
I have seen Buttler occasionally bat like this in the IPL as well. Very slow for 17 overs and explode. Chris Gayle is another guy who bat like this for 7 or 8 overs then suddenly explode if he still around.
 
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