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South Africa are chokers!
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Final starts..
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Maybe South Africa deliberately taking matches down the wires just to strike out their name from the chokers list
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We need to make a new thread called SA are nail biters.
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Really impressed by leadership and tactics of Aidem Markram. He could arguably be the best captain currently.
This SA team has potential to win the Cup under him.
This SA team has potential to win the Cup under him.
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People need to stop pushing this choker narrative. The current crop of South African players, except a few, have no contribution to the choker tag.
They are a fresh group of players who don’t deserve to be put down because of their predecessors. De Kock is probably the only player left in this squad with scars from the past, but even he laid them to the rest in the previous World Cup where he batted fabulously.
It is not surprising to see South Africa overcome the choker mentality after moving on from players like De Villiers, Amla, Faf, Duminy, Steyn, Morkel, Philander etc.
They are a fresh group of players who don’t deserve to be put down because of their predecessors. De Kock is probably the only player left in this squad with scars from the past, but even he laid them to the rest in the previous World Cup where he batted fabulously.
It is not surprising to see South Africa overcome the choker mentality after moving on from players like De Villiers, Amla, Faf, Duminy, Steyn, Morkel, Philander etc.
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De kock choked on the sf vs aus
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Every time South Africa lose a match they will be erroneously referred to as chokers.
That's not the case. They do not have divine right to win that only they can throw away. Sometimes they will come up against better teams and in many cases they won't be favourites for the match.
An example of choking in this tournament for instance would be like Haris Rauf and Amir against the USA.
That's not the case. They do not have divine right to win that only they can throw away. Sometimes they will come up against better teams and in many cases they won't be favourites for the match.
An example of choking in this tournament for instance would be like Haris Rauf and Amir against the USA.
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I heard Imran Tahir mention that while they play best Cricket and are unbeatable throughout the whole tournament. In knockout matches he seem to think that mentally South Africans can't handle the pressure. He seems to think that they don't have the same passion and emotionality attached which you see among other teams.
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SA have not choked yet and won very close matches this tournament. Can this be their year?
It could be.
It also depends upon which team they're facing in the semis.
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He has probably “choked” less than Kohli, Rohit, Bumrah etc. have, but no one would view them as chokers. It is all about narratives. SA don’t have enough fans to fight their case and shape their narratives and drive their agendas.
Gilchrist choked in 7 semifinals but his team carried him to the final almost every time and gave him a second chance at redemption.
People put too much stock into these silly narratives. De Kock is a magnificent cricketer - one of the best WK batsmen of all time and the best SA have produced to date.
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De kock choked in the 2014 sf vs ind, 2015 sf vs nz and the 2023 sf. He has never performed in an icc knockout match while kohli and bumrah have been motm in icc knockouts.
Barring the 23 wc, he has also failed in every icc event. He is a world class batsman but a choker too
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He has failed in ICC knockouts but he has only been in 3 to be fair.
Kohli hasnt choked more than him. He has performed in at least 6 ICC KO's.
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They will choke right into the semi finals 
I feel a bit bad for South Africa. They first got the choker label after the 1992 World Cup and that was very unfair. They were knocked out because of the most ridiculous rain rule in history.
Unfortunately for them, they seemed to let it get to them and over the course of time it got steadily worse to the double mishap in 1999. After that unfortunately they were gone. They started to believe it.
2003 was not even a choke, it was dumb with a DLS calculation failure. But it added to it.
You’d think they’d get over it, but unfortunately every World Cup they have legacy players that have suffered the previous “choke”.
Hoping for the best
Unfortunately for them, they seemed to let it get to them and over the course of time it got steadily worse to the double mishap in 1999. After that unfortunately they were gone. They started to believe it.
2003 was not even a choke, it was dumb with a DLS calculation failure. But it added to it.
You’d think they’d get over it, but unfortunately every World Cup they have legacy players that have suffered the previous “choke”.
Hoping for the best
I don't think so.They will choke right into the semi finals
They're gonna win against Afghanis.
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Let's hope South Africa choke as they have already lost three wickets in the chase of 148 in the first Test against Pakistan
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don't think it was a choke some credit to bowling too
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There is something at stake for them. If they lose this they could jeopardize their chances.
Exactly my thoughts. They didn't gift wickets.
This isn't a choke so far by any means.
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there was some good bowling display by the Pakistan bowlers
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Let’s hope too. SA is not going hard and hence Pakistan is still in the game.
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Dinesh Karthik heavily criticized the South African team after their defeat against New Zealand in the Champions Trophy semifinal while speaking on a sports media outlet:
“I want to state it on record. New Zealand annihilated South Africa; it was as simple as that. They were not in the game. I thought South Africa would get close and put pressure on them.”
“That’s what you expected from South Africa. This is a meek surrender. They were not in the game so early. You can’t turn up to a semifinal feeling happy to be there. Play like a champion team. You can always back yourself to get 90 in the last ten in the back end, or 85. But you cannot have 140. Even in T20, it is hardly done. With fewer wickets in hand and a slightly older ball, it is next to impossible.”
“I want to state it on record. New Zealand annihilated South Africa; it was as simple as that. They were not in the game. I thought South Africa would get close and put pressure on them.”
“That’s what you expected from South Africa. This is a meek surrender. They were not in the game so early. You can’t turn up to a semifinal feeling happy to be there. Play like a champion team. You can always back yourself to get 90 in the last ten in the back end, or 85. But you cannot have 140. Even in T20, it is hardly done. With fewer wickets in hand and a slightly older ball, it is next to impossible.”
