Pakistan need to rethink there strategy before WC , they need to look at India , and use two specialist spinners in middle order
The 2 spinners also need to be good, we did it with ashwin and jaddu before trying kulcha look how that went.
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Pakistan need to rethink there strategy before WC , they need to look at India , and use two specialist spinners in middle order
Agree. Really dissapointedQuite a surrender to be honest, was expecting better fight. By no means 240 should be such walk in the park at Newlands under light.
The 2 spinners also need to be good, we did it with ashwin and jaddu before trying kulcha look how that went.
Quite a surrender to be honest, was expecting better fight. By no means 240 should be such walk in the park at Newlands under light.
Pakistan need to rethink there strategy before WC , they need to look at India , and use two specialist spinners in middle order
Anyway this game is up time to go home
Do you think Imam making a century off 120/130 balls would have been sufficient - it was more about not scoring 30 more runs between overs 20-40 and loosing too many wickets so the charge in the final 10 overs fell 20 runs short. Why do you live in the past where you think an anchor innings is the solution. Look at the top teams - they play their shots from the start (England, India) - you just have to be smart and be able to rotate the strike and not eat up dots and hit a boundary every other over. If there are weaker bowlers in between you can go for a couple 20 run overs and completely push the pressure on the bowlers
you didn't expose anything, you did a poor job at defending umar akmal as our best batsman and match winner.
and look what happened, imam left early and you barely touched 250 let alone 350... tryna blame him for not getting more runs when he's the only reason you were posting good totals to begin with
asif ali at 6 is not the solution.
although i think umar can be better at 4 than hafeez.
you were correct about rizwan btw.
looked good in the pakistan A matches but looked quite poor here.... thought he would have worked on his game
not sure what the issue is, looked all at sea.
the difference was imam, if he had scored runs and kept one end from falling... they would have been able to score a better total.
imam fails and they fall like dominos.
lol at shadab at 7 19(42).
i think i mentioned to you imad would be much better at 7
No improvement in bowling either - I start to question Azhar Mahmood, I have never seen Shadab bowl a perfect length in any of his matches thus far.
If its not the coaches then we must get rid of players that dont show an attitude or execution to learn. They can continue to play domestic T20 leagues and stay happy. Never going to become big players.
Imam isn't the solution, neither difference. Today, PAK had excellent platform at 108/2 or so at 5+... then 4-5-6, made like 60 of 110; had Imam been there (Or Sarfraz instead of Rizwan), that 108/2 would have been 78/2 and 240 ending at 210. What PAK is missing is Umar Akmal at 5, unpopular comment, but he is the only solution, but obviously he has to be fit & focused. These Imam, MoHa, Malik, Haris, Sarfraz ... are just number cruncher - there is only one batsman Babar, and I give BoD to Fakhar - at least if the guy plays 50 balls, he'll get a 50, and if he can play 100 balls, he'll often win the game.
Some of the PAK posters here should look back their posts in last 3 days and it was poetic justice for boasting this Batting & Bowling line up among top 4 in world ..... more importantly that middle order![]()
How can Shadab be smiling rn?
Don't they feel any sort of guilt or dejection at such below par performances.
As a fan i feel miserable,they should atleast pretend to be downcast,such cheery smiles are hard to digest![]()
I agree Umar Akmal, Fakhar Zaman and Babar Azam play their shots and appear to play the modern game these other batsmen will just try to accumulate runs for their own stats and saving their own spots.
Also, it may be that these three are very talented and have the ability to create shots and not rely on bowlers to bowl full or short (waste high)
Do you think Imam making a century off 120/130 balls would have been sufficient - it was more about not scoring 30 more runs between overs 20-40 and loosing too many wickets so the charge in the final 10 overs fell 20 runs short. Why do you live in the past where you think an anchor innings is the solution. Look at the top teams - they play their shots from the start (England, India) - you just have to be smart and be able to rotate the strike and not eat up dots and hit a boundary every other over. If there are weaker bowlers in between you can go for a couple 20 run overs and completely push the pressure on the bowlers
Please take hatric
For me, Rv Dussen is MoS - his best 2 efforts gone unnoticed, one for Amla special and one for Andile's game of life; but guy has been rock solid, scored vital runs and has been cool under pressure. Brilliant Test No. 3 in prospect and he should have been in Test series long back.
So Umar at 5 will sort our middle order woes?
Rv dussen dhoni
You have to take a chance - might work, might not; but these 3 at 4-6 are certain to fail in WC. None of them were ever world class, neither can play under pressure and very much single dimensional/predictable.
This match completely exposed Pakistan's middle order.
Hafeez still has some utility I feel coming in after the 25th over.
Relax man. It's just a game. 5th game was a dud but the others were very close. Pak youngsters can hold their heads high. Malik should just leave. He cost Pak 2 games. the third one and this
Umar Akmal has been out of the side for way too long. For a team lacking firepower his non stop exclusion in the last 4 years is frankly extremely criminal now
Imam isn't the solution, neither difference. Today, PAK had excellent platform at 108/2 or so at 5+... then 4-5-6, made like 60 of 110; had Imam been there (Or Sarfraz instead of Rizwan), that 108/2 would have been 78/2 and 240 ending at 210. What PAK is missing is Umar Akmal at 5, unpopular comment, but he is the only solution, but obviously he has to be fit & focused. These Imam, MoHa, Malik, Haris, Sarfraz ... are just number cruncher - there is only one batsman Babar, and I give BoD to Fakhar - at least if the guy plays 50 balls, he'll get a 50, and if he can play 100 balls, he'll often win the game.
Some of the PAK posters here should look back their posts in last 3 days and it was poetic justice for boasting this Batting & Bowling line up among top 4 in world ..... more importantly that middle order![]()
Rubbish absolutely rubbish. A team of mental midgets being coached by mindless stupidly aggresive coach, a captain who has nothing but expletives to say to his own players. Dissappointing.
India trashed this SA team 4-1 and Pakistan is going to lose 3-2. India is trashing a full strength NZ in NZ while Pakistan lost 5-0. Makes for very depressing reading and shows that the rankings of the respective teams don't lie. For far too long we have carried players who choke in crunch games, need to move on after the 2019 WC.
Not surprising. This Pak team cannot play under pressure.
All this is true, but even as an Indian I have to tell you... in English conditions, with a motivated Amir bowling, the Indian top order can collapse along with the rest of the batting. Happened in Asia Cup (though India won that match) and happened in CT. I really don't have much faith in Rohit and Dhawan negotiating Amir in English conditions, hope I am proven wrong.
Fakhar scoring 40+ is also ominous for India if it means he has figured out his problems.
Amir has major fitness issues which he is trying to hide or delay so he does not miss out on World CUp and PSL pay day.
No way can a bowler suddenly regress from 135-145 to 125-135 in a matter of of six months. He should go under the knife and come back fully fit this current Amir will not trouble namabia let alone India.
I think a bit differently. I believe Amir is simply not motivated unless it is a very big game, like a WC game against India. He just doesn't care for the "smaller" games. Maybe it is his strategy to not wear out his body bowling in the "smaller" games.
I think Amir (followed by Fakhar and Azam) remain the best bet for Pakistan to finally win one against India in the WC.
So the Asia cup games against India weren't important?
Imam isn't the solution, neither difference. Today, PAK had excellent platform at 108/2 or so at 5+... then 4-5-6, made like 60 of 110; had Imam been there (Or Sarfraz instead of Rizwan), that 108/2 would have been 78/2 and 240 ending at 210. What PAK is missing is Umar Akmal at 5, unpopular comment, but he is the only solution, but obviously he has to be fit & focused. These Imam, MoHa, Malik, Haris, Sarfraz ... are just number cruncher - there is only one batsman Babar, and I give BoD to Fakhar - at least if the guy plays 50 balls, he'll get a 50, and if he can play 100 balls, he'll often win the game.
Some of the PAK posters here should look back their posts in last 3 days and it was poetic justice for boasting this Batting & Bowling line up among top 4 in world ..... more importantly that middle order![]()
Umar Akmal is no longer the best batsman but if he proves form in the PSL and fitness, he would be an ideal replacement for Malik in the team and bat at 4 instead of Hafeez (who can come in at 5).
Imam bottled it today, today was the day where he could afford to score a ton at 85-90 SR. 3rd ODI was a 340+ pitch.
My view on Asif Ali is neutral because he was dropped prematurely when he was always going to struggle on slow pitches against spin. But he is a gifted striker against pace who bats better when there’s more pace on offer from the surface. At present he doesn’t warrant a place in the XI but if he was persisted, so he could develop his ability to rotate strike and thus build an innings he would have been more or less the finisher we’ve been crying out for. I don’t see any other better hitting options and the problem with this batting unit is the sheer abundance of accumulators.
Well when he is scoring Pakistan is winning matches and actually managed to score 300 for a change. With Imam we've actually been able to chase something more than 250, if Imam wasn't holding his end together then they would have collapsed as evident in the 2nd ODI and 5th ODI.
After Imam and Babar Pakistan doesn't have any batsman that can hold one end and keep the score ticking. The examples are there for you to see.
I don't know why you fail to understand the impact Imam has had in this series, there is a reason he won man of the series and someone like Van Der Dussen didn't (who also scored a sh!t ton of runs).
I don't remember Umar Akmal having as big of an impact that Imam has had so far. Umar played 116 ODIs and he was only impact in his first year or so.
Only in Pakistan would a player who is not in side became the solution when at one point he was a part of the problem. If he wasn't the solution then, how the hell is he going to be the solution NOW?
His MoS was undeserved - you don't give MoS from losing side, when there is a batsman instrumental in winning the series. SAF had been a great host and they honored a young cricketer.
Coming Imam, as I said he has time in his hand to prove me wrong, and he has the backing to be confident of not being dropped for whatever he does (otherwise after Test series, he shouldn't be in ODI team - now, this ODI series will be used as a reference to pick him in next Test series), so good luck to him - won't mind if he really makes it count after being picked with that sort of domestic records.