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South Africa vs Pakistan | 4th ODI | Johannesburg | Jan 27, 2019 | South Africa innings Thread

Any chances for Sarfraz not to come back until his batting is fine enough again?
 
The problem with Pakistani cricket are many but one is a pattern with us and that is that we do not win crucial moments.

In this game, South Africa are 29/2, FAF is struggling and having to resort to take chances, plays an aerial shot and a difficult but catchable chance is dropped by Shadab. Next over FAF takes out two boundaries and the pressure is back on Pakistan.

29/3 after ten overs in a possibly rain curtailed match changes the whole dynamic. The next batsman coming in has to wait for a few overs before breaking free and that is the same time when the spin is going to be in play meaning a few quick overs could possibly just go there. All of a sudden, it's 17 overs and the score is around 55 and extra pressure on the batting team.

We just don't seem to win mini moments and that's why our cricket has been struggling for quite some time now.
 
mickey needed to remember you also have abbas in the squad
Abbas is not an option for LOI cricket.

PPers getting their wishes come true this game. No Sarfraz as captain, check. Amir not given the new ball, check. And they are still whining :)))
 
Abbas is not an option for LOI cricket.

PPers getting their wishes come true this game. No Sarfraz as captain, check. Amir not given the new ball, check. And they are still whining :)))

that doesn't mean you don't give him a shot, especially when you have 4 left armers in the XI
 
PAK can chase 300 ish target today. Babar should enjoy batting here, unless he gets out early.
 
PAK pacers, in fact the entire team looking like demotivated, disengaged, clueless and directionless without someone constantly keeping their character in check with verbal guidance.


What's wrong with Amir? Doesn't he have any motivation to perform or he is just finished.
 
The problem with Pakistani cricket are many but one is a pattern with us and that is that we do not win crucial moments.

In this game, South Africa are 29/2, FAF is struggling and having to resort to take chances, plays an aerial shot and a difficult but catchable chance is dropped by Shadab. Next over FAF takes out two boundaries and the pressure is back on Pakistan.

29/3 after ten overs in a possibly rain curtailed match changes the whole dynamic. The next batsman coming in has to wait for a few overs before breaking free and that is the same time when the spin is going to be in play meaning a few quick overs could possibly just go there. All of a sudden, it's 17 overs and the score is around 55 and extra pressure on the batting team.

We just don't seem to win mini moments and that's why our cricket has been struggling for quite some time now.

I think while what you describe is generally true, I think today it hasn’t felt like we let it slip away. Would have definitely been good to dismiss Du Plessis, but it wasn’t exactly a howler.
 
that doesn't mean you don't give him a shot, especially when you have 4 left armers in the XI
We can't go for a left-field choice this close to the World Cup. Only place we have is for a tear-away quick who impresses in the PSL. I'm hoping either of Naseem Shah or Muhammad Musa have a good chance to showcase their talent.
 
I think while what you describe is generally true, I think today it hasn’t felt like we let it slip away. Would have definitely been good to dismiss Du Plessis, but it wasn’t exactly a howler.

It is the deadest pitch of the whole tour.
We should be happy we got 2 for 20.
 
We can't go for a left-field choice this close to the World Cup. Only place we have is for a tear-away quick who impresses in the PSL. I'm hoping either of Naseem Shah or Muhammad Musa have a good chance to showcase their talent.

it doesn't hurt to try though when you know usman isn't good enough.

haven't heard of mohammad musa and last i checked naseem shah was recovering from injury.

we don't need to carry another injury prone cricketer, haris and irfan (wc 2015) have done enough damage.
 
Shinwari is utter tripe. So so pathetic. How did he even get another game?!
 
Im getting a feeling Amla bhai will score another slowish hundred and hand over the match to Pakistan. :hasan
 
I think while what you describe is generally true, I think today it hasn’t felt like we let it slip away. Would have definitely been good to dismiss Du Plessis, but it wasn’t exactly a howler.

It's not about howlers, it's the moments of brilliance that matter.

As I type that, Shadab has missed another run-out opportunity for Amla too. Good to great teams do not do that, Ponting and Symonds have won matches from the field doing run outs, even in last match despite all their trash fielding, Andele's catch of Hafeez was vital and possibly the difference between 317 and 340.

These are fine margins but that's how international cricket is. And we just don't do enough to actually be considered as a good team.
 
What's wrong with Amir? Doesn't he have any motivation to perform or he is just finished.

I think, he is upset not being given new ball. Obviously, this is a decision taken long back, but he might haven't accepted that. Was bowling well in 1st over, then not sure why went to do fancy staff with seem position. Still, best bet for WC plan, may be after that he should be forced to retire from ODI, because I don't see him surviving till 2023, that too in IND. The blunder PCB did after 2011 & 2015, has to be corrected after 2019 - brutally purge anyone over 29, for pacers make it 25.
 
He has basically allowed amla and faf to settle after the early pressure built by shaheen.
 
the bowling combo of pak is all wrong..in overseas conditions u cant have 3 spinners
 
He's been a really embarrassing commentator in recent times.

Really doesn’t deserve to be selected given his attitude towards doing even the most basic amount of research. The complaints about bazid droning might be valid, but still he knows the game in Pakistan. If not bazid, then the psl guys need to look for new voice talent. That’s how it works. It’s just not sustainable that we not rameez, wasim (equally clueless), Amir Sohail (heavy breather from a crank call), bazid (excellent understanding of Pakistan’s game, but needs more work on delivery)
 
Amir shaheen hasan and junaid

This should be our fast bowling for world cup

We have to play hasan. He is most comfortable with he old ball.
Even Imad is more threatening with the new ball, but we need people to bowl I. The middle with shadab
 
Really doesn’t deserve to be selected given his attitude towards doing even the most basic amount of research. The complaints about bazid droning might be valid, but still he knows the game in Pakistan. If not bazid, then the psl guys need to look for new voice talent. That’s how it works. It’s just not sustainable that we not rameez, wasim (equally clueless), Amir Sohail (heavy breather from a crank call), bazid (excellent understanding of Pakistan’s game, but needs more work on delivery)

rameez has been commentating for the past 16 or 17 years, he's not going anywhere and i hope he doesn't.

he's awesome
 
How pivotal of a player he was. He was basically half the team. Reason they won the series in India, reason they got to the Semi’s in WC and so much more!

Can't agree more...and may be the first time South Africa not favourite going into the World Cup..Bowling still world class but fragile batting lineup..still clueless against quality spin attack...
 
Junaid is better than shinwari for sure. Dont know why our bowlers are hell bent on wobbly seam and bowling short.
 
Pak should be able to chase 300 quite easily. Rain and DL might favour them . 330-350 it's a different story.
 
Junaid is better than shinwari for sure. Dont know why our bowlers are hell bent on wobbly seam and bowling short.

You have to bend your back to get the ball up delivery after delivery and they don’t have fitness for that.
 
Chasing with Mr. Duckworth Lewis around will be not easy for Pakistan
Need to restrict Africa under par...South Africa construct inning beautiful in the last match while chasing ..Faf is very underrated captain..
 
So fun to watch this match and be able to focus on the right things instead of getting irritated over the yelling of Sarfraz.
 
I hope someone like Zafar Gohar/Irfan Khan has a stellar PSL otherwise spinners other than Shadab are trash and not wicket taking options.
 
Chasing with Mr. Duckworth Lewis around will be not easy for Pakistan
Need to restrict Africa under par...South Africa construct inning beautiful in the last match while chasing ..Faf is very underrated captain..

Pakistan will lose wickets regularly
 
I honestly under estimated South African batting prowess this series. espicially ODI;s, even without ABDV they are not as bad as I thought.
 
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