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So who do you think should get on the plane to England for the proteas? Mine would be

Faf du plessis (c)
Quinton De Kock
Reeza Hendricks
Aiden Markram
Rassie van der dussen
JP Duminy
David Miller
Dwayne Pretorius
Wian Mulder
Andile Phehlukwayo
Imran Tahir
Tabraiz Shamsi
Kagiso Rabada
Dale Steyn
Lungi Ngidi
 
So who do you think should get on the plane to England for the proteas? Mine would be

Faf du plessis (c)
Quinton De Kock
Reeza Hendricks
Aiden Markram
Rassie van der dussen
JP Duminy
David Miller
Dwayne Pretorius
Wian Mulder
Andile Phehlukwayo
Imran Tahir
Tabraiz Shamsi
Kagiso Rabada
Dale Steyn
Lungi Ngidi

Can't go with only 3 specialist fast bowlers, who will all be in the starting lineup and hence, there will be no one on the bench.

Hashim Amla needs to play, can't be dropped for the WC which will be his last most probably.

My Team and Squad would be:

Aiden Markram
Quinton De Kock(Wk)
Hashim Amla
Faf Du Plessis(C)
JP Dumminy
David Miller
Andile Phelukwayo
Dale Steyn
Kagiso Rabada
Imran Tahir
Lungi Ngidi

Bench:

RV Der Dussen
Dwaine Pretorius
Tabraiz Shamsi
Anrich Nortje
 
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Can't go with only 3 specialist fast bowlers, who will all be in the starting lineup and hence, there will be no one on the bench.

Hashim Amla needs to play, can't be dropped for the WC which will be his last most probably.

My Team and Squad would be:

Aiden Markram
Quinton De Kock(Wk)
Hashim Amla
Faf Du Plessis(C)
JP Dumminy
David Miller
Andile Phelukwayo
Dale Steyn
Kagiso Rabada
Imran Tahir
Lungi Ngidi

Bench:

RV Der Dussen
Dwaine Pretorius
Tabraiz Shamsi
Anrich Nortje

Mulder and Phehlukwayo are as good as specialist bowlers.
And Amla is past it , Hendricks would be a much better option.
 
1. Quinton de Kock
2. Hashim Amla
3. Aiden Markram
4. Faf du Plessis
5. David Miller
6. JP Duminy
7. Andile Phelukwayo
8. Dale Steyn
9. Lungi Ngidi
10. Kagiso Rabada
11. Imran Tahir

12. Tabraiz Shamsi
13. Rassie van der Dussen
14. Heinrich Klaasen
15. Reeza Hendricks/ Anrich Nortje
 
Mulder and Phehlukwayo are as good as specialist bowlers.
And Amla is past it , Hendricks would be a much better option.

Mulder and Phelukwayo aren't specialist bowlers for me, atleast for a team like South Africa, even Faheem Ashraf is a better bowler than them. No team can go with such scarce resources of fast bowlers for a long event like WC where injury can happen any time and there should be a player ready, used to the conditions replacing him with the exact same role. What has Mulder done to be the first choice backup bowler? I would take any proper Fast bowler in South Africa in place of him for their WC Team.

With the retirement of AB De Villiers, Hashim Amla is a necessity. You can't take a new squad to the WC, there should be some experience.
 
Doesn't matter who they play. They don't have a chance this time. Might as well discuss SL/AFG/BD chances
 
De Kock
Amla
Van Der Dussen
Faf
Miller
JP
Andile
Morris
Ngidi
Rabada
Tahir

Hendricks
Steyn
Shamsi
Petrious


Main issue is choosing 2 out of 3 of Amla, Markham, and Hendricks. Amla will go on seniority basis. Hendricks doesn’t deserve to be dropped. Ideally Steyn wouldn’t be picked as he is not great in ODIs but we know he will be selected. Also Norjte is injured so doesn’t leave SA anytime to try someone else in place of Steyn.

Still a very good squad.
 
So who do you think should get on the plane to England for the proteas? Mine would be

Faf du plessis (c)
Quinton De Kock
Reeza Hendricks
Aiden Markram
Rassie van der dussen
JP Duminy
David Miller
Dwayne Pretorius
Wian Mulder
Andile Phehlukwayo
Imran Tahir
Tabraiz Shamsi
Kagiso Rabada
Dale Steyn
Lungi Ngidi

Pretty much, except Amla for Mulder and maybe Nortje for Pretorius or even Shamsi, if he is fit (with Duminy back and their main bowlers injury prone I think they will opt for the extra pacer).
 
Quinton DeKock
Hashim Amla
Faf Du Plessis
JP Duminy
Rassie Van Der Dussen
David Miller
Dwayne Pretorius
Chris Morris
Dale Steyn
Kagiso Rabada
Imran Tahir

Aiden Markram/Reeza Hendricks
Lungi Ngidi
Andile Phehlukwayo
Tabraiz Shamsi
 
Mulder and Phelukwayo aren't specialist bowlers for me, atleast for a team like South Africa, even Faheem Ashraf is a better bowler than them. No team can go with such scarce resources of fast bowlers for a long event like WC where injury can happen any time and there should be a player ready, used to the conditions replacing him with the exact same role. What has Mulder done to be the first choice backup bowler? I would take any proper Fast bowler in South Africa in place of him for their WC Team.

With the retirement of AB De Villiers, Hashim Amla is a necessity. You can't take a new squad to the WC, there should be some experience.

Well I agree that the fast bowling resources are slim, but there are no other options left for them. The likes of Anrich Nortje , Sipamla etc are quite raw and inexperienced.
Besides, Pretorius and Mulder looked pretty good whenever given a chance, especially Pretorius. He is a bhuvi type bowler, who will be effective in England. And Phehlukwayo is a smart bowler and has all the variations but most importantly picks Wickets.

And coming to Amla, he is not a dynamic odi player anymore as he was until 2015. Anyways, Reeza Hendricks performed well whenever he opened with Qdk. I don't think Amla is going to play the world cup.
 
Doesn't matter who they play. They don't have a chance this time. Might as well discuss SL/AFG/BD chances

What makes you think that they have no chance? They have a much much better team than Pakistan. And If Pakistan's chances are discussed here everyday, why can't SAF be?
 
What makes you think that they have no chance? They have a much much better team than Pakistan. And If Pakistan's chances are discussed here everyday, why can't SAF be?

They don't have a much better team than Pakistan. The only 2 teams that are MUCH better than Pakistan are England and a full strength Australia. India and NZ may get better but the difference is not that big. As for RSA, their ODI team has been weakened after the retirements of AB and Morne and Amlas decline hasn't helped either. If it weren't for D/L, the result of the recent series could just as easily have been 3-2 in PAK's favour. Besides even if they do have the semis , considering their history of chokes at the knockout stages, I think we an safely rule them out.
 
They don't have a much better team than Pakistan. The only 2 teams that are MUCH better than Pakistan are England and a full strength Australia. India and NZ may get better but the difference is not that big. As for RSA, their ODI team has been weakened after the retirements of AB and Morne and Amlas decline hasn't helped either. If it weren't for D/L, the result of the recent series could just as easily have been 3-2 in PAK's favour. Besides even if they do have the semis , considering their history of chokes at the knockout stages, I think we an safely rule them out.

Not too weak a squad, but I agree, losing an ATG is never easy.

In regards to the bolded: Only a fool would think SA will win this WC. However, we all know it's just a matter of time before we do... :faf
 
Not too weak a squad, but I agree, losing an ATG is never easy.

In regards to the bolded: Only a fool would think SA will win this WC. However, we all know it's just a matter of time before we do... :faf

Your team had a damn good chance to win in 2011 - man for man that was the strongest team in the World Cup. I didn't rate rate SA in 2015 nor do I rate them now. Just don't have enough players who can make an impact.
 
They don't have a much better team than Pakistan. The only 2 teams that are MUCH better than Pakistan are England and a full strength Australia. India and NZ may get better but the difference is not that big. As for RSA, their ODI team has been weakened after the retirements of AB and Morne and Amlas decline hasn't helped either. If it weren't for D/L, the result of the recent series could just as easily have been 3-2 in PAK's favour. Besides even if they do have the semis , considering their history of chokes at the knockout stages, I think we an safely rule them out.

Disagree.

Rabada , Ngidi , Steyn, Tahir are miles apart in quality from whoever we put forward.

Qdk, Markram, FAF, JP, RVD , Miller are comfortably better than our TTF brigade of
Malik, Sarfu, MoHa etc. Even a finished product like Amla is better than Imam/Haris IMO. Only Babar can get into their side.

And why would you just assume that SAF will choke again. Everything has a first time. By that logic, even India shouldn't be considered as favourites like they're now , because they too have choked in the knockouts of the past four ICC events.
 
I'm a big fan of Hash but I must admit he is having a horrible time of it and might only make it to the WC squad because of Reputation and the fact that Reeza Hendricks wasted many opportunities to grab that place vacated by Amla. If you check Reeza's stats, esp in ODIs, he averages some 25, which is way too big a gamble to take for proteas selectors by selecting a youngster averaging 25 over a veteran like Hashim who brings in loads of experience.

Also, Amla has failed mainly in Tests and T20s (domestics), but his last ODI series against Pakistan wasn't too bad, he still managed a century and a Half century in that series.

South Africa missed a trick by not trying out more batsmen who could have taken Amla's place, However, Markram is a sure shot selection ahead of Amla in the playing eleven.

Proteas Squad might look something like this:

F Du Plessis, A Markram, De Kock, R Van der Dussen, D Miller, JP Duminy, A Phelukwayo, D Steyn, K Rabada, L Ngidi, I Tahir, H Amla, D Pretorious, A Nortje, T Shamsi
 
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I hope they surprise everyone this time around.They are not favorites this time like they have been previous times.Their bowling is very good and batting is not that bad.They can easily make the semis.
 
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