Sri Lanka A v Pakistan A | 2nd u/o Test | Colombo | 13-16 Aug 09

[hur rizvi]

SL A 31/5
abdurrehman 2 maidens 2 wkts 2/0

 

[Ali888]

Excellent stuff from Pakistan A bowling unit.

Credit to Talha and Wahab who have been very consistent against both Australia A and Sri Lanka A.

 

[IAJ]

Finally some luck also going in Pakistans favour. The wicket must have been very damp after the rain and our bowlers have taken full advantage of that. Looks like good captaincy as well.
Talha, masood, riaz and Abdur Rehman all in good shape and fighting hard for CT-places.

 

[Mercenary]

Between Talha and Wahab, Wahab is ready but Talha has more potential.

The worrying news about Talha is that after a poor series against Aus A he has dropped the changes to his action and returned to the one where he leans back before release. It may get him wickets at the lower levels but he will struggle against international sides

 

[Juggernaut]

Between Talha and Wahab, Wahab is ready but Talha has more potential.

The worrying news about Talha is that after a poor series against Aus A he has dropped the changes to his action and returned to the one where he leans back before release. It may get him wickets at the lower levels but he will struggle against international sides

Agreed that Wahab is ready ... i think he has a good chance to even make the CT squad ... by the way Merc how do you know that he's reverted back to his original action? if its true thats not great news ... i was so happy when i saw he picked up 5/79 in the first innings

 

[Mercenary]

I've been in touch with some of the touring party

 

[Juggernaut]

I've been in touch with some of the touring party

the old action means he's likely to be injured more often? does it reduce/improve his effectiveness? i mean whats the whole deal with it ?

 

[Xoib]

Talha injured.

 

[dblock]

Talha injured.

Does look like it only bowled 4.1 overs.

 

[IAJ]

This is so typical Pakistan, why can't we finish up the tail or lower order batsmen quickly? SL were 30/5 at one stage and now they are 143/5.
These things happend with the first team in SL also. In first match Murali got 30+ runs and in the last game Bandara and co shared a partnership of 70 runs for the 9th wicket.

 

[Mercenary]

the old action means he's likely to be injured more often? does it reduce/improve his effectiveness? i mean whats the whole deal with it ?

Talha is a mess when it comes to actions. There's three that i know of...

First Action - This action got him injured repeatedly and would've ended his career. In fact at one point they thought it had.

Second Action - This is the one we saw in the test vs Sri lanka. It was an awful action with a stutter before release and leaning back when letting go of the ball.

Third Action - This is the action that bowling coaches at the NCA under the supervision of Aamir Sohail helped Talha to develop but Talha was never comfortable with it.

Talha has gone back from action 3 to action 2.

 

[Juggernaut]

Talha is a mess when it comes to actions. There's three that i know of...

First Action - This action got him injured repeatedly and would've ended his career. In fact at one point they thought it had.

Second Action - This is the one we saw in the test vs Sri lanka. It was an awful action with a stutter before release and leaning back when letting go of the ball.

Third Action - This is the action that bowling coaches at the NCA under the supervision of Aamir Sohail helped Talha to develop but Talha was never comfortable with it.

Talha has gone back from action 3 to action 2.

Thanks for clearing that up Merc ... sorry if you're getting annoyed with my questions ... but I don't understand all this talk of potential if the guy's action is so poor that it could end his career before its started

Ok he's not comfortable with his third action so he goes back to action number 2 ... if number 2 doesn't get him injured and he maintains his effectiveness then its all good right ... but if it reduces his effectiveness then the lads back to square one really ... work out a whole new action again and then play some cricket with it to see if it works

 

[Wassixpakistani]

Between Talha and Wahab, Wahab is ready but Talha has more potential.

The worrying news about Talha is that after a poor series against Aus A he has dropped the changes to his action and returned to the one where he leans back before release. It may get him wickets at the lower levels but he will struggle against international sides

Merc , If you care about the future of our cricket then you will definitely adivse and force him to revert to the new action.
Please do this , Talha is a amazing prospect for us and we don't him to get ruined .

 

[Juggernaut]

Merc , If you care about the future of our cricket then you will definitely adivse and force him to revert to the new action.
Please do this , Talha is a amazing prospect for us and we don't him to get ruined .

Its not Mercs responsibilty mate ... its upto the coaches surrounding him ... but I understand you're sentiments

 

[Wassixpakistani]

Talha is a mess when it comes to actions. There's three that i know of...

First Action - This action got him injured repeatedly and would've ended his career. In fact at one point they thought it had.

Second Action - This is the one we saw in the test vs Sri lanka. It was an awful action with a stutter before release and leaning back when letting go of the ball.

Third Action - This is the action that bowling coaches at the NCA under the supervision of Aamir Sohail helped Talha to develop but Talha was never comfortable with it.

Talha has gone back from action 3 to action 2.

If talha was uncomfortable with the 3rd one , Why didn't NCA help him develop a 4rth One , Surely the Options aren't limited ;/ . They can take help from Waqar as well .

 

[Khabri420]

SL "A" 229/9, Pakistan "A" should be able to wrap this up relatively soon and chase down the target, barring a collapse.

 

[Khabri420]

And there it is SL "A" 229 all out. Abdur Rehman picks up a 5fer.

Pakistan "A" require 68 to win. Should be straightforward enough

 

[Ali888]

should finish it today even allowing for batting collapse

 

[Wassixpakistani]

I still have nightmares about the Pak/Sl first test..........If these guys chase down the target then the nightmare will be gone forever .

 

[hur rizvi]

Talha is injured not a great news for pakistan

 

[Wassixpakistani]

Talha is injured not a great news for pakistan

serves the idiot right issed: , Who the heck told him to revert to his injury prone Action . It was his wish to get injured and it is fulfilled .

 

[hur rizvi]

only 20 minutes to go match cant finish now unless BHANJAS go beserk

 

[Juggernaut]

Ideally we should win by 10 wickets ... Khurram and Umar should see us through ... well done Wahab Riaz in this series aswell ... 11 for 267 in 4 innings ... an average of 24.27 ... good stuff ... i'd say Ahmed Shehzad probably the standout batsman ... a 50 odd and a 96 ... but ofcourse Umar Amins 150+ was awesome as well

 

[Ali888]

only 20 minutes to go match cant finish now unless BHANJAS go beserk

50 mins left according to Cricinfo and they should be able to invoke extra half hour

 

[Khabri420]

Would be nice to see some fireworks here

 

[Wassixpakistani]

Manzoor with a boundary .

 

[Xoib]

Ideally we should win by 10 wickets ... Khurram and Umar should see us through ... well done Wahab Riaz in this series aswell ... 11 for 267 in 4 innings ... an average of 24.27 ... good stuff ... i'd say Ahmed Shehzad probably the standout batsman ... a 50 odd and a 96 ... but ofcourse Umar Amins 150+ was awesome as well

had 18 sticks in Aus, so a combined effort of 29 wickets in 11 outings pretty good figures that too against decent class bat.

 

[Wassixpakistani]

Khurram looks good enough to grab the Test Opener Spot for good . The question is , who will be he's partner ?.

 

[Extreme Pace]

5 wickets for Abdur Rehman as well, left arm off spin bowler. Pakistani batsmen, particularly Yusuf should practice against him.

 

[hur rizvi]

50 mins left according to Cricinfo and they should be able to invoke extra half hour

I told you match has finished in 20 mins

at STUMPS
pak 14/0

 

[pakcricketfan]

Talha is a mess when it comes to actions. There's three that i know of...

First Action - This action got him injured repeatedly and would've ended his career. In fact at one point they thought it had.

Second Action - This is the one we saw in the test vs Sri lanka. It was an awful action with a stutter before release and leaning back when letting go of the ball.

Third Action - This is the action that bowling coaches at the NCA under the supervision of Aamir Sohail helped Talha to develop but Talha was never comfortable with it.

Talha has gone back from action 3 to action 2.

so many changes in his action...poor guy!
if action #2 is likely to get him injured, why did he go back to it!! Surely, he wouldn't want to get injured and out of the scenes
Talha's been with the NCA for so long and still hasn't found his proper action!

 

[Juggernaut]

I told you match has finished in 20 mins

at STUMPS
pak 14/0

good to see they saw out the 20 minutes ... show the same amount of concentration in the first half hour of tomorrow so that you get set and win this by 10 wickets hopefully

 

[hur rizvi]

good to see they saw out the 20 minutes ... show the same amount of concentration in the first half hour of tomorrow so that you get set and win this by 10 wickets hopefully

Hopefully the weather doesnt turn back on us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Juggernaut]

Hopefully the weather doesnt turn back on us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

they got in 25 overs today ... if they get the same amount tomorrow then 53 runs in 25 overs is very very possible ... for some reason with the decent form Khurram and Umar have shown i'm confident we'll win this without a wicket lost

 

[Mercenary]

so many changes in his action...poor guy!
if action #2 is likely to get him injured, why did he go back to it!! Surely, he wouldn't want to get injured and out of the scenes
Talha's been with the NCA for so long and still hasn't found his proper action!

Action 2 isnt an imjury risk, its completely inefficient. He pauses before his jump which kills the momentum generafed from his runup then he leans backwards when releasing the ball which reduces the speed he could be bowling at.

 

[Inswinger]

Action 2 isnt an imjury risk, its completely inefficient. He pauses before his jump which kills the momentum generafed from his runup then he leans backwards when releasing the ball which reduces the speed he could be bowling at.

Is that the action he was bowling with during his Test debut? Waqar really ripped that action on the air.

 

[hur rizvi]

Good victory for pakistan A team !!!!!!!

 

[Wassixpakistani]

The seniors should learn from these guys . Always make sure the target is below 100 when chasing for victory .

 

[Wassixpakistani]

Is that the action he was bowling with during his Test debut? Waqar really ripped that action on the air.

Yep Action 2 is the very same action he was bowling with at his debut . In my opinion the injury serves him right for reverting back to this action , sure the 3rd was one uncomfortable but it was for his own good .

I am extremely disappointed with him.

 

[Extreme Pace]

Some Tour Stats

Umer Amin 198 runs @ 66.00
Ahmed Shezad 161 runs @ 40.25
Khurram Manzoor 117 runs @ 29.25
Faisal Iqbal 102 runs @ 34.00


Wahab Riaz 11 wickets @ 24.27
Mohammad Talha 9 wickets @ 26.44
Abdur Rehman 6 wickets @ 19.16
Fahad Masood 4 wickets @ 47.50

 

[Wassixpakistani]

Some Tour Stats

Umer Amin 198 runs @ 66.00
Ahmed Shezad 161 runs @ 40.25
Khurram Manzoor 117 runs @ 29.25
Faisal Iqbal 102 runs @ 34.00


Wahab Riaz 11 wickets @ 24.27
Mohammad Talha 9 wickets @ 26.44
Abdur Rehman 6 wickets @ 19.16
Fahad Masood 4 wickets @ 47.50

Thanx Man
With stats like those Wahab has now assured a comeback call . Umer Amin will likely get a test cap soon , Shehzad is also looking good.

 

[Juggernaut]

Some Tour Stats

Umer Amin 198 runs @ 66.00
Ahmed Shezad 161 runs @ 40.25
Khurram Manzoor 117 runs @ 29.25
Faisal Iqbal 102 runs @ 34.00


Wahab Riaz 11 wickets @ 24.27
Mohammad Talha 9 wickets @ 26.44
Abdur Rehman 6 wickets @ 19.16
Fahad Masood 4 wickets @ 47.50

First of all well done Pakistan A on the win

Khurram's been a real let down on this tour. It was his opportunity to show the selectors that he can cut it in test cricket. His performances have been poor except for one 50.

Umar Amin has been solid but has also had just one big score. I still think that Amin needs more time. Especially because he's shown form on this tour but in Australia he was poor. Few more tours for him I think.

Wahab Riaz has done really well. Not only here but in Australia he's exceeded my expectations. He has a really good chance now to be atleast selected for all the major squads. If anyone will come back/make the national squad he will.

 

[Extreme Pace]

Ok, combining the stats of the series against Australia A and Sri Lanka A to get a better judgement of players.


Most Wickets

Wahab Riaz 22 wickets @ 24.96
Abdur Rehman 12 wickets @ 33.67
Mohammad Talha 12 wickets @ 35.92
Fahad Masood 8 wickets @ 35.38
Mohammad Hafeez 5 wickets @ 29.20
Naveed Arif 5 wickets @ 65.40
Azhar Ali 4 wickets @ 25.75


Most Runs

Umar Akmal 283 runs @ 94.33
Umer Amin 262 runs @ 37.43
Azhar Ali 251 runs @ 41.83
Sarfraz Ahmed 223 runs @ 44.60
Fahad Iqbal 163 runs @ 32.60
Ahmed Shezad 161 runs @ 40.25

 

[Wassixpakistani]

Wahab you beauty , He certainly showed signs of improvement .

 

[IAJ]

Ok, combining the stats of the series against Australia A and Sri Lanka A to get a better judgement of players.


Most Wickets

Wahab Riaz 22 wickets @ 24.96
Abdur Rehman 12 wickets @ 33.67
Mohammad Talha 12 wickets @ 35.92
Fahad Masood 8 wickets @ 35.38
Mohammad Hafeez 5 wickets @ 29.20
Naveed Arif 5 wickets @ 65.40
Azhar Ali 4 wickets @ 25.75


Most Runs

Umar Akmal 283 runs @ 94.33
Umer Amin 262 runs @ 37.43
Azhar Ali 251 runs @ 41.83
Sarfraz Ahmed 223 runs @ 44.60
Fahad Iqbal 163 runs @ 32.60
Ahmed Shezad 161 runs @ 40.25

Lahore dynamite is pure class!

 

[Ali888]

Ok, combining the stats of the series against Australia A and Sri Lanka A to get a better judgement of players.


Most Wickets

Wahab Riaz 22 wickets @ 24.96
Abdur Rehman 12 wickets @ 33.67
Mohammad Talha 12 wickets @ 35.92
Fahad Masood 8 wickets @ 35.38
Mohammad Hafeez 5 wickets @ 29.20
Naveed Arif 5 wickets @ 65.40
Azhar Ali 4 wickets @ 25.75


Most Runs

Umar Akmal 283 runs @ 94.33
Umer Amin 262 runs @ 37.43
Azhar Ali 251 runs @ 41.83
Sarfraz Ahmed 223 runs @ 44.60
Fahad Iqbal 163 runs @ 32.60
Ahmed Shezad 161 runs @ 40.25

Good post, interesting stats.

Wahab Riaz clear stand-out performer.

Sarfraz Ahmed should be made Test wicket keeper, Kamran Akmal should become specialist opener.

Umar Amin and Azhar Ali decent averages for openers.

 

[Extreme Pace]

I think what these stats show is that people calling for massive changes in the batting department will be in for some disappointment. We don't many good batsmen waiting in the ranks. The three that should be considered for the next tour are: Azhar Ali, Ahmed Shezad and Sarfraz Ahmed. Wahab Riaz should be an automatic selection at this point. I am also surprised that Asim Kamal wasn't included in either of the tours instead we have Bhanja's as an automatic selection.

 

[Ryankhan]

glad to see our a team win the test match and i had said earlier aswell get ahmed shehzad in test squad permanently and just keep him for test matches. he is a sold player and is much better then k.manzoor. abdul rehman should also be considered for test matches or odis, he is a good left arm spinner who can do good damge. wahab riaz again impressive and should get a place now in odis atleast so over all good to see that pak a won the test series and hope they telecast the odi series between these a teams or plz get highlights somehow.

 

[Juggernaut]

I think what these stats show is that people calling for massive changes in the batting department will be in for some disappointment. We don't many good batsmen waiting in the ranks. The three that should be considered for the next tour are: Azhar Ali, Ahmed Shezad and Sarfraz Ahmed. Wahab Riaz should be an automatic selection at this point. I am also surprised that Asim Kamal wasn't included in either of the tours instead we have Bhanja's as an automatic selection.

I think Umar Amin is some way off ... Azhar Ali didn't really stand out on this tour ... I expected big things from him after Aus A ... but I still think he has potential at the top of the order ... Ghani didn't get much of an opportunity but I do agree that Azhar might just be a shoe in for selection for future tests