Suddenly we see precisely how "rich" the BCCI really is

[Romali_rotti]

Juniads is overall an ok poster imo, he is quite knowledgeable *credit where it is due*.. However he has the Pakistani delusional syndrome which makes him do posts like the no.66 when India is in the picture......


Its actually quite scary how powerful BCCI is becoming at this stage, I expect them to unseat the entire NFL (American football) in about 5-10 years from now as far as revenue generation goes.

 

[rhony]

Juniads is overall an ok poster imo, he is quite knowledgeable *credit where it is due*.. However he has the Pakistani delusional syndrome which makes him do posts like the no.66 when India is in the picture......


Its actually quite scary how powerful BCCI is becoming at this stage, I expect them to unseat the entire NFL (American football) in about 5-10 years from now as far as revenue generation goes.

Lol No. NFL had revenues of 13 bil and their tv rights are like 4 bil a season. In 9 to 10 years, their projected revenues are 25 bil a year. No league can match that

 

[Romali_rotti]

Lol No. NFL had revenues of 13 bil and their tv rights are like 4 bil a season. In 9 to 10 years, their projected revenues are 25 bil a year. No league can match that

You just never know, I wouldnt put it past BCCI and its 1 billion plus cricket mad nation...

 

[Hitman]

Juniads is overall an ok poster imo, he is quite knowledgeable *credit where it is due*.. However he has the Pakistani delusional syndrome which makes him do posts like the no.66 when India is in the picture......


Its actually quite scary how powerful BCCI is becoming at this stage, I expect them to unseat the entire NFL (American football) in about 5-10 years from now as far as revenue generation goes.

He is knowledgeble but with a heavy dose of bias. And that heavy dose of bias makes his knowledge not worth 2 cents. Ameoba was one fine poster who contributed a lot in the forums, because he was knowledgeable and yet not biased.

 

[Gubol123]

Actually every word I wrote turned out to be true.

The BCCI did settle with the ICC for Manohar’s $400 million.

You are confusing the new BCCI Indian rights deal of $944 million with this.

But for an identical five year period, Cricket Australia is itself looking at netting an $850 million domestic rights deal.

So India’s 1.2 billion people generate $944 million from a GDP of $2.64 Trillion.

Australia’s 24 million people generate $850 million from a GDP of $1.6 Trillion.

as many have pointed out the figure you are touting is what Australia is hoping to net.. lets how much they do now after the whole world came to know how they were dominating the sport.. Secondly, again as pointed out by others, you conveniently clubbed BBL revenues into overall revenues and omitted for BCCI revenues..

Considering all that, BCCI generates nearly four times the revenues that Australia does.. Now lets factor into our calculation the highlighted part.. India generates approximately $700 million USD in a 1.35 billion country. That works out to be approximately 52 cents per capita revenue. Australia hopes to generate around $170 USD in a country with population of 24 million which works out to be around 7 dollars per capita.. now 0.52$ revenue generation per capita vs $7 for Aus board reflects poorly on BCCI until you consider their respective per capita income.. Approximate Aus per capita income is around $66500 (using your numbers) and India's is around $1850 (from wiki). So ACB is able to extract around 0.01% of per capita income from Australians as its revenue.. Same value for BCCI is around 0.028%.

So there you have the numbers based on your data.. As you can see BCCI is able to generate nearly three times more revenue per capita than ACB that too in a poor country where disposable income is at a premium.. And when you consider that the sports does not even have 15% ad revenue share in India, it is remarkable what they are able to do..

 

[Gubol123]

Obviously BCCI nets more from rights - its market is 1.25 bn people. But CA's 850 take on 25m people is more impressive.

it is actually not at all impressive.. see my numbers above

 

[Gubol123]

Actually every word I wrote turned out to be true.

The BCCI did settle with the ICC for Manohar’s $400 million.

You are confusing the new BCCI Indian rights deal of $944 million with this.

But for an identical five year period, Cricket Australia is itself looking at netting an $850 million domestic rights deal.

So India’s 1.2 billion people generate $944 million from a GDP of $2.64 Trillion.

Australia’s 24 million people generate $850 million from a GDP of $1.6 Trillion.

as many have pointed out the figure you are touting is what Australia is hoping to net.. lets how much they do now after the whole world came to know how they were dominating the sport.. Secondly, again as pointed out by others, you conveniently clubbed BBL revenues into overall revenues and omitted for BCCI revenues..

Considering all that, BCCI generates nearly four times the revenues that Australia does.. Now lets factor into our calculation the highlighted part.. India generates approximately $700 million USD in a 1.35 billion country. That works out to be approximately 52 cents per capita revenue. Australia hopes to generate around $170 USD in a country with population of 24 million which works out to be around 7 dollars per capita.. now 0.52$ revenue generation per capita vs $7 for Aus board reflects poorly on BCCI until you consider their respective per capita income.. Approximate Aus per capita income is around $66500 (using your numbers) and India's is around $1850 (from wiki). So ACB is able to extract around 0.01% of per capita income from Australians as its revenue.. Same value for BCCI is around 0.028%.

So there you have the numbers based on your data.. As you can see BCCI is able to generate nearly three times more revenue per capita than ACB that too in a poor country where disposable income is at a premium.. And when you consider that the sports does not even have 15% ad revenue share in India, it is remarkable what they are able to do..

and i have been very generous in assuming that the numbers you are quoting is in USD. if it happens to be in AUD then ACB is generating approximately 0.008% of per capita income in Australia as its revenue.

Also remember all this money while BCCI is not even having a proper governance structure and being led by a wishful thinking CoA.. Imagine what BCCI can do if they are let to run on their own..

Indians are extremely good at trading and running business... leave BCCI to themselves they will generate enormous revenue even in a developing nation like India..

 

[OoparCut]

I can't wait to see how the likes of the old man and the rest on here are going to react this summer. Pakistan and India are going to play test series in England, back to back.

I don't like popcorn that much, but gonna have to get some ready!

 

[Gubol123]

Juniads is overall an ok poster imo, he is quite knowledgeable *credit where it is due*.. However he has the Pakistani delusional syndrome which makes him do posts like the no.66 when India is in the picture......


Its actually quite scary how powerful BCCI is becoming at this stage, I expect them to unseat the entire NFL (American football) in about 5-10 years from now as far as revenue generation goes.

Bro, not all knowledge brings wisdom. Today knowledge is available at your fingertips.. when i first started following cricket only way was radio or a next day news paper.. Only way to get cricket stats was to read related magazines or wait for special shows on BBC.. now all it takes is few seconds on internet. Acquiring knowledge or copy pasting it is relatively easy. But acquiring wisdom is as difficult (more difficult?) as it was. anyone can spout any incidence that happened in a cricket match by googling about it.. not sure what the big deal about it

 

[Gubol123]

Lol No. NFL had revenues of 13 bil and their tv rights are like 4 bil a season. In 9 to 10 years, their projected revenues are 25 bil a year. No league can match that

i think you need to control your lol ... the NFL per game broadcast revenue is around $23 million.. their overall revenue is higher because they play approximately three to four times the number of games as it is in IPL. IPL per game revenue is around 8.5 million. So by per game revenue IPL is approximately 1/3 of NFL. When we consider that the average NFL games lasts around 3 hours and an average IPL game lasts around 4 hours, per hour revenue per game is around $2.1million for IPL and $7.6 for NFL. Considering the fact that per capita income in India is 1/30 th of US do you really think IPL will not match it in future?.. probably in next three decades they will be at parity

 

[OoparCut]

i think you need to control your lol ... the NFL per game broadcast revenue is around $23 million.. their overall revenue is higher because they play approximately three to four times the number of games as it is in IPL. IPL per game revenue is around 8.5 million. So by per game revenue IPL is approximately 1/3 of NFL. When we consider that the average NFL games lasts around 3 hours and an average IPL game lasts around 4 hours, per hour revenue per game is around $2.1million for IPL and $7.6 for NFL. Considering the fact that per capita income in India is 1/30 th of US do you really think IPL will not match it in future?.. probably in next three decades they will be at parity

3 decades?? Half of that, at most. By 2030, IPL broadcast revenue on a per game basis will be higher than NFL. Maybe overall as well. I expect the IPL to be at least a 12 team league by then. So the number of games will increase as well.

 

[Princejain191]

Juniads is overall an ok poster imo, he is quite knowledgeable *credit where it is due*.. However he has the Pakistani delusional syndrome which makes him do posts like the no.66 when India is in the picture......


Its actually quite scary how powerful BCCI is becoming at this stage, I expect them to unseat the entire NFL (American football) in about 5-10 years from now as far as revenue generation goes.

Lol true, except I think the knowledge part. You can't be posting whatever he does or make threads like he does if you are knowledgeable.

 

[barah_admi]

I don't see how this thread is to be bumped up post tv rights deal. That has nothing to do with the BCCI literally begging teh ICC for $400 million dollars. IT happened, its documented, get over it.

 

[Vildoc]

I don't see how this thread is to be bumped up post tv rights deal. That has nothing to do with the BCCI literally begging teh ICC for $400 million dollars. IT happened, its documented, get over it.

Demanding not begging!

 

[barah_admi]

Demanding not begging!

It is begging when the letter basically states they can't support their domestic structure without it lol You don't demand by saying you are unable to do something.

 

[USofA]

I don't see how this thread is to be bumped up post tv rights deal. That has nothing to do with the BCCI literally begging teh ICC for $400 million dollars. IT happened, its documented, get over it.

I saw that whole incident the opposite way. The BCCI threw their weight around and got what they really wanted. The typical ask for a whole lot and then settle for lesser the amount you actually want.

What I do not understand though, is why Mr. Manohar is praised as the best thing since sliced bread (in this forum), a fair and unbiased individual after giving away $400 million to just one board.

 

[USofA]

It is begging when the letter basically states they can't support their domestic structure without it lol You don't demand by saying you are unable to do something.

But is that really the case though. This is a world of negotiations. You do whatever you can to gain that extra inch.

 

[Gubol123]

It is begging when the letter basically states they can't support their domestic structure without it lol You don't demand by saying you are unable to do something.

38 million is approximately 5% to 6% of BCCI revenues. so are you believing BCCI cannot support their domestic structure if the revenue drops by 5%? they had a surplus of around 2000 crores which is approximately 10 times the amount ICC is providing to BCCI. I repeat they surplus of 10 times what ICC is providing.. It is BCCI job to fight for their share of money and they will make any argument that they think they can get away with..

 

[Gubol123]

38 million is approximately 5% to 6% of BCCI revenues. so are you believing BCCI cannot support their domestic structure if the revenue drops by 5%? they had a surplus of around 2000 crores which is approximately 10 times the amount ICC is providing to BCCI. I repeat they surplus of 10 times what ICC is providing.. It is BCCI job to fight for their share of money and they will make any argument that they think they can get away with..

It is also 101 of negotiation technique.. you go with as high as possible and then settle for a reasonable amount which is greater than what was offered to you initially.. I think BCCI was offered around 290 million and they asked 500+ and settled for 400 which was more than their initial offer.

you should try that approach in your next salary discussion or new job offer.. that is, if you are old enough to work. otherwise you can use that technique in your homework or TV time negotiations as my kids often do

 

[cricketjoshila]

It is also 101 of negotiation technique.. you go with as high as possible and then settle for a reasonable amount which is greater than what was offered to you initially.. I think BCCI was offered around 290 million and they asked 500+ and settled for 400 which was more than their initial offer.

you should try that approach in your next salary discussion or new job offer.. that is, if you are old enough to work. otherwise you can use that technique in your homework or TV time negotiations as my kids often do

If they knew these techniques PCB would be BCCI.

 

[barah_admi]

You guys are embarrassing. There is literally written evidence from the BCCI of their begging but yes, it was negotiation tactics so they could humiliate themselves...the same tactics that got ECB and CA to distance themselves from big three idea and agree to change in the financial structure in the next financial structure.

Great stuff BCCI for shooting yourself in the foot and earning less next time. Wow, how amazing.

 

[JaDed]

i think you need to control your lol ... the NFL per game broadcast revenue is around $23 million.. their overall revenue is higher because they play approximately three to four times the number of games as it is in IPL. IPL per game revenue is around 8.5 million. So by per game revenue IPL is approximately 1/3 of NFL. When we consider that the average NFL games lasts around 3 hours and an average IPL game lasts around 4 hours, per hour revenue per game is around $2.1million for IPL and $7.6 for NFL. Considering the fact that per capita income in India is 1/30 th of US do you really think IPL will not match it in future?.. probably in next three decades they will be at parity

No it won't,also don't forget the number of teams NFL has, its more inclusive, when IPL teams increase the per match viewing would go down with each viewing their own city alone, also IPL is undisputed till now without other major leagues, with the speed of football craze IPL won't always have these many viewers in 30 years.

NFL is not only huge but it's one of the most exciting sports on TV ,IPL is great for Indian cricket, but only way I see IPL beating NFL IS coz concussion issues and the decreasing number of football stadiums at school level being converted to soccer ones.

 

[Oxfordchamp]

Actually every word I wrote turned out to be true.

The BCCI did settle with the ICC for Manohar’s $400 million.

You are confusing the new BCCI Indian rights deal of $944 million with this.

But for an identical five year period, Cricket Australia is itself looking at netting an $850 million domestic rights deal.

So India’s 1.2 billion people generate $944 million from a GDP of $2.64 Trillion.

Australia’s 24 million people generate $850 million from a GDP of $1.6 Trillion.

Just accept your naivety and move on...you are making an even bigger fool of yourself. .it is Crystal clear for everyone what you have been saying all along...so please stop trying to be a big fool...

 

[JaDed]

Actually every word I wrote turned out to be true.

The BCCI did settle with the ICC for Manohar’s $400 million.

You are confusing the new BCCI Indian rights deal of $944 million with this.

But for an identical five year period, Cricket Australia is itself looking at netting an $850 million domestic rights deal.

So India’s 1.2 billion people generate $944 million from a GDP of $2.64 Trillion.

Australia’s 24 million people generate $850 million from a GDP of $1.6 Trillion.

Pretty poor from you , everyone has countered you already on how you are twisting the dollar value,not taking into account the IPL deal being separate and not to forget they haven't even signed the deal yet.

This is why lot of your stats of 70s and 80s are biased as well.

 

[Harshu814]

if junaid were indian

1)india is strongest cricketing nation
2)bcci is laxmi
3)indian cricket team is best
4)ipl is what will change the world

ROTFLMAO

i just wondered if he were indian and had his old common sense (which i see from his earlier threads) only he said opposite coz he isnt indian ofc and cant stand the fact

but cheers on good news for indian cricket ,whereever n whenever they come

 

[Gubol123]

Pretty poor from you , everyone has countered you already on how you are twisting the dollar value,not taking into account the IPL deal being separate and not to forget they haven't even signed the deal yet.

This is why lot of your stats of 70s and 80s are biased as well.

people always romance about the past especially when there is so less evidence to support most of those claims.. Remember that most of the cricket writers were Englishmen that time and hyped their players no end.. They hype there players no end now and all of us have seen the quality of that team.. So whatever history you read or historical stat you come across, take it with a pinch of salt... This is true especially with regards to whoever played in county irrespective of their country of origin

 

[Itachi]

I don't see how this thread is to be bumped up post tv rights deal. That has nothing to do with the BCCI literally begging teh ICC for $400 million dollars. IT happened, its documented, get over it.

OP brought TV right deals of CA. It's evident it'll be bumped more as the rights will pour.

 

[rhony]

38 million is approximately 5% to 6% of BCCI revenues. so are you believing BCCI cannot support their domestic structure if the revenue drops by 5%? they had a surplus of around 2000 crores which is approximately 10 times the amount ICC is providing to BCCI. I repeat they surplus of 10 times what ICC is providing.. It is BCCI job to fight for their share of money and they will make any argument that they think they can get away with..

Don't waste your time. He doesn't understand numbers and words like surplus. It took me a bunch of posts with numbers and figures to explain why PCB needs a bigger handout and he couldn't get it

 

[rhony]

I saw that whole incident the opposite way. The BCCI threw their weight around and got what they really wanted. The typical ask for a whole lot and then settle for lesser the amount you actually want.

What I do not understand though, is why Mr. Manohar is praised as the best thing since sliced bread (in this forum), a fair and unbiased individual after giving away $400 million to just one board.

Hmmm...he was an insider after all.

 

[rhony]

i think you need to control your lol ... the NFL per game broadcast revenue is around $23 million.. their overall revenue is higher because they play approximately three to four times the number of games as it is in IPL. IPL per game revenue is around 8.5 million. So by per game revenue IPL is approximately 1/3 of NFL. When we consider that the average NFL games lasts around 3 hours and an average IPL game lasts around 4 hours, per hour revenue per game is around $2.1million for IPL and $7.6 for NFL. Considering the fact that per capita income in India is 1/30 th of US do you really think IPL will not match it in future?.. probably in next three decades they will be at parity

Yeah, per game revenue I get now. I missed that point earlier. However, also assume that NFL will grow too.

 

[rhony]

as many have pointed out the figure you are touting is what Australia is hoping to net.. lets how much they do now after the whole world came to know how they were dominating the sport.. Secondly, again as pointed out by others, you conveniently clubbed BBL revenues into overall revenues and omitted for BCCI revenues..

Considering all that, BCCI generates nearly four times the revenues that Australia does.. Now lets factor into our calculation the highlighted part.. India generates approximately $700 million USD in a 1.35 billion country. That works out to be approximately 52 cents per capita revenue. Australia hopes to generate around $170 USD in a country with population of 24 million which works out to be around 7 dollars per capita.. now 0.52$ revenue generation per capita vs $7 for Aus board reflects poorly on BCCI until you consider their respective per capita income.. Approximate Aus per capita income is around $66500 (using your numbers) and India's is around $1850 (from wiki). So ACB is able to extract around 0.01% of per capita income from Australians as its revenue.. Same value for BCCI is around 0.028%.

So there you have the numbers based on your data.. As you can see BCCI is able to generate nearly three times more revenue per capita than ACB that too in a poor country where disposable income is at a premium.. And when you consider that the sports does not even have 15% ad revenue share in India, it is remarkable what they are able to do..

Great points!!!

 

[squarecut]

PCB has a deal with Sony for TV rights. Everyone knows the value of Star cricket deals with BCCI, but Sony is so coy about disclosing the amount agreed with PCB. Does the OP or anyone else have any idea what is the value of the deal ?

 

[USofA]

PCB has a deal with Sony for TV rights. Everyone knows the value of Star cricket deals with BCCI, but Sony is so coy about disclosing the amount agreed with PCB. Does the OP or anyone else have any idea what is the value of the deal ?

I believe it is a 5 year deal for $150 million. But 60% is for India games. So the PCB will/is getting about $18 million/year.