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Post the All time TEST XI of the country you belong to. For me - Sunil Gavaskar , Virender Sehwag , Rahul Dravid , Sachin Tendulkar , VVS Laxman , Farokh Engineer , Kapil Dev , Anil Kumble , Javagal Srinath , Bishan Bedi , Bhagwath Chandrasekhar
 
1.Saeed Anwar
2.Hanif Mohammed
3.Zaheer Abbas
4.Javed Miandad
5.Moyo/Younus
6.Inzi
7.Imran*
8.Rashid Latif†
9.Wasim
10.Waqar
11.Qadir/fazal
 
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Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
:sachin
Amarnath
Tiger
:msd
:kapil
Kumble
Srinath
Bedi
 
1. Jack Hobbs
2. Len Hutton (c)
3. Graham Gooch
4. Wally Hammond
5. Colin Cowdrey
6. Kevin Pietersen
7. Ian Botham
8. Alan Knott (wk)
9. Graeme Swann
10. Bob Willis
11. Fred Trueman

With all that batting and Botham to bowl, I think I can afford to have a specialist keeper, so Knott gets the nod over Stewart. Only a four man bowling attack, but those three seamers will happily charge in for me all day. If on a wet pitch, then I'd bring Derek Underwood in for Swann.

Some people batting out of position too, but too many great openers to fit in.
 
Bickers said:
1. Jack Hobbs
2. Len Hutton (c)
3. Graham Gooch
4. Wally Hammond
5. Colin Cowdrey
6. Kevin Pietersen
7. Ian Botham
8. Alan Knott (wk)
9. Graeme Swann
10. Bob Willis
11. Fred Trueman

With all that batting and Botham to bowl, I think I can afford to have a specialist keeper, so Knott gets the nod over Stewart. Only a four man bowling attack, but those three seamers will happily charge in for me all day. If on a wet pitch, then I'd bring Derek Underwood in for Swann.

Some people batting out of position too, but too many great openers to fit in.
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This list is agreeable but could u do modern day players...like post 70s?
 
Saeed Anwar, Shahid Afridi, Younus Khan, Mohammad Yousuf, Inzamam Ul Haq, Saleem Malik, Moin Khan (wk), Wasim Akram (c), Waqar Younis, Shoaib Akhtar, Saqlain Mushtaq. Period.
 
zabalestmsm said:
Saeed Anwar, Shahid Afridi, Younus Khan, Mohammad Yousuf, Inzamam Ul Haq, Saleem Malik, Moin Khan (wk), Wasim Akram (c), Waqar Younis, Shoaib Akhtar, Saqlain Mushtaq. Period.
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wow...no imran? no miandad? no abbas? The former are Pakistans greatest ever player and Pakistans greatest ever Batsman...As for Abbas, well he played vs top class attacks and that away too
lol and Shahid Afridi?
 
Haz95 said:
wow...no imran? no miandad? no abbas? The former are Pakistans greatest ever player and Pakistans greatest ever Batsman...As for Abbas, well he played vs top class attacks and that away too
lol and Shahid Afridi?
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Well actually this is the all time XI based on those players whom i have "seen" play cricket :)
 
Haz95 said:
This list is agreeable but could u do modern day players...like post 70s?
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OK, from players since 1980 it would be something like this for all conditions:

1. Geoffrey Boycott
2. Alastair Cook
3. Graham Gooch (c)
4. Kevin Pietersen
5. David Gower
6. Alec Stewart (wk)
7. Ian Botham
8. Graeme Swann
9. Darren Gough
10. Bob Willis
11. James Anderson

An opening pair to get the juices flowing and the crowd pouring in by the thousand.
 
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Sanath Jayasuriya, TM Dilshan, Kumar Sangakkara+, Aravinda de Silva, Mahela Jayawardane*, Thilan Samaraweera, Angelo Mathews, Ravi Rathnayake, Chaminda Vaas, Rumesh Ratnayeke, Muttiah Muralitharan
 
Bickers said:
OK, from players since 1980 it would be something like this for all conditions:

1. Geoffrey Boycott
2. Alastair Cook
3. Graham Gooch (c)
4. Kevin Pietersen
5. David Gower
6. Alec Stewart (wk)
7. Ian Botham
8. Graeme Swann
9. Darren Gough
10. Bob Willis
11. James Anderson

An opening pair to get the juices flowing and the crowd pouring in by the thousand.
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That's a top class team..KP, Gooch, Swann are the assets in that team and obviously botham :ik
 
All time SA XI.


  • Barry Richards -- One of the finest talents of the 20th century
  • Graeme Smith * -- More familiar name for younger fans
  • Jacques Kallis -- One of the finest all rounder of all time.
  • Graeme Pollock -- Voted in 1999 as South Africa's Cricketer of the 20th Century
  • Dudley Nourse -- A gun batsman and best for 15 years in SA. 9 centuries in 34 tests, avg 53.xx
  • Aubrey Faulkner -- One of the greatest all rounders of his era.
  • Mike Procter -- One of the most natural talented all rounders in world cricket
  • John Waite + -- An outstanding wicketkeeper-batsman. The first SAcan to play 50 Tests.
  • Dale Steyn --- Will go down as an ATG bowler.
  • Hugh Tayfield -- One of the greatest off-spinners in cricket. 170 wickets at 25.xx
  • Allan Donald -- ATG fast bowler.

12th man - Shaun Pollock

SA has produced too many quality all rounders as compared to any other countries and that's why we have so many in this XI.
 
1. Saeed Anwar
2. Hanif Mohammed
3. Younis Khan
4. Javed Miandad
5. Inzmam-ul-Haq
6. Imran Khan (C)
7. Rashid Latif (WK)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Saqlain Mustaq
10. Waqar Younis
11. Fazal Mehmood
 
Buffet said:
All time SA XI.


  • Barry Richards -- One of the finest talents of the 20th century
  • Graeme Smith * -- More familiar name for younger fans
  • Jacques Kallis -- One of the finest all rounder of all time.
  • Graeme Pollock -- Voted in 1999 as South Africa's Cricketer of the 20th Century
  • Dudley Nourse -- A gun batsman and best for 15 years in SA. 9 centuries in 34 tests, avg 53.xx
  • Aubrey Faulkner -- One of the greatest all rounders of his era.
  • Mike Procter -- One of the most natural talented all rounders in world cricket
  • John Waite + -- An outstanding wicketkeeper-batsman. The first SAcan to play 50 Tests.
  • Dale Steyn --- Will go down as an ATG bowler.
  • Hugh Tayfield -- One of the greatest off-spinners in cricket. 170 wickets at 25.xx
  • Allan Donald -- ATG fast bowler.

12th man - Shaun Pollock

SA has produced too many quality all rounders as compared to any other countries and that's why we have so many in this XI.
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Wouldn't you have ab de villiers? He'd be 2nd on my all time wicketkeeper batsmen after Gilly
 
Extreme Pace said:
1. Saeed Anwar
2. Hanif Mohammed
3. Younis Khan
4. Javed Miandad
5. Inzmam-ul-Haq
6. Imran Khan (C)
7. Rashid Latif (WK)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Saqlain Mustaq
10. Waqar Younis
11. Fazal Mehmood
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Perfect, but I'd have Moyo over Younis.
 
Haz95 said:
Wouldn't you have ab de villiers? He'd be 2nd on my all time wicketkeeper batsmen after Gilly
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Based on my readings, John Waite was a superior keeper and a good batsman. But how AB is going right now, he will surely get into this XI after few more years of top performance. His combined worth will be too much to ignore. John Waite was good while keeping to pacers and spinners both.

Gilly is one of the best players I have seen and he is the best keeper batsman in history but some time I leave out even him when making an all time world XI for a superior keeper. It comes down to how much his batting is required in my XI.

These lists are anyway subjective.
 
Richardson
Wright
Crowe
Fleming(c)
Turner
Cairns
Macca(WK)
Hadlee
Vettori
Nash
Bond

Could drop Fleming and add Taylor with Crowe as captain if Taylor keeps up his recent beastly form.
 
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1. Saeed Anwar
2. Hanif Mohammed
3. Younis Khan
4. Javed Miandad
5. Inzmam-ul-Haq
6. Imran Khan (C)
7. Wasim Bari (wk)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Abdul Qadir
10. Waqar Younis
11. Shoaib Akhter
 
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Buffet said:
Based on my readings, John Waite was a superior keeper and a good batsman. But how AB is going right now, he will surely get into this XI after few more years of top performance. His combined worth will be too much to ignore. John Waite was good while keeping to pacers and spinners both.

Gilly is one of the best players I have seen and he is the best keeper batsman in history but some time I leave out even him when making an all time world XI for a superior keeper. It comes down to how much his batting is required in my XI.

These lists are anyway subjective.
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They are indeed subjective. AB is an outstanding keeper too tho which is why I thought you may consider him...Some of his catches are insane and his batting alone is almost ATG level in tests.
 
1)Gavaskar
2)Sehwag
3)Dravid
4) Sachin
5) Gundappa Vishwanath
6) VVS Laxman
7) Dhoni
8) Kapil Dev
9)Kumble
10)Srinath
11)Bishan Singh Bedi

12th Man: Mohd. Azharuddin
 
1. Hobbs
2. Sutcliffe
3. Hutton (c)
4. Hammond
5. Compton
6. Dexter
7. Knott (w)
8. Statham
9. Laker
10. Trueman
11. Barnes


On a spinning track I'd get in Underwood for Statham.
 
Bickers said:
OK, from players since 1980 it would be something like this for all conditions:

1. Geoffrey Boycott
2. Alastair Cook
3. Graham Gooch (c)
4. Kevin Pietersen
5. David Gower
6. Alec Stewart (wk)
7. Ian Botham
8. Graeme Swann
9. Darren Gough
10. Bob Willis
11. James Anderson
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I'd be inclined to promote Gooch to open, drop Chef, promote Stewie to #3 and give the gloves to Knott. Also, bring in Fraser for Jimmy.
 
Looking at the English teams being selected here , one would be led to believe that we have got some wheel-chaired English fans on this forum.
 
Marvan
Sana
Sanga
Aravinda
Mahela
Arjuna (c)
Prasanna (wk)
Vass
Herath
Malinga
Murali
 
Robert said:
1. Hobbs
2. Sutcliffe
3. Hutton (c)
4. Hammond
5. Compton
6. Dexter
7. Knott (w)
8. Statham
9. Laker
10. Trueman
11. Barnes


On a spinning track I'd get in Underwood for Statham.
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in this day and age...I guarantee you half of them won't even be half as prolific as they are...Graeme Swann is one of Englands greatest ever spinners and KP is among one of their greatest batsmen...Just name the guys in that team who'd be able to face ATG bowlers like Marshall, Ambrose, Steyn, Wasim, Waqar or name the spinner who would trouble every line up in this day and age on any track-even the ones of Australia..KP manhandled steyn like no one has done before and I doubt half of the XI you picked can.
How you don't have Boycott or Botham is also baffling
 
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Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Sachin
Laxman
Azhar/Ganguly
Dhoni
Kapil
Zaheer
Srinath
Kumble/Gupte/Bedi/Chandrashekhar
 
1) Saeed Anwar
2) Hanif Mohammad
3) Younis Khan
4) Javed Miandad
5) Inzamam Ul Haq
6) Mohammad Yousuf
7) Wasim Bari (WK)
8) Imran Khan (C)
9) Wasim Akram
10) Waqar Younis
11) Abdul Qadir

Hard to pick the perfect XI as you have to leave players that you would want in there such as Fazal Mohammad, Zaheer Abbas etc.
 
Haz95 said:
his batting alone is almost ATG level in tests.
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True. When he is done, he may claim a spot only based on his batting. He is averaging 40+ in every single country. He didn't face the same class of bowlers but stats are SRTsque in that regard.

2004-2007, he was ordinary in 30+ tests. I would have liked him to play better in that period when cricket had few ATG bowlers. In the period he flourished, only SA had an ATG bowler and he didn't have to face that bowler. That's the main reason I don't consider him an ATG even after having a great career stats. My opinion may change depending on what he does in the next 3-4 years.

I think he got to face only Murali, Warne and McGrath. Even if you include good bowlers like Asif/Akhtar in the mix, he didn't score much.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...er_involve=5649;template=results;type=batting

I don't know who else to include but I have some impression of AB based on how he played in his entire career . That may not be in sync with folks who have watched him play well only in the last 4-5 years. Some big knocks against great bowlers would have helped a lot. I liked it that he played well against current Aus bowling unit in SA but needs to do such things more often.
 
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Haz95 said:
in this day and age...I guarantee you half of them won't even be half as prolific as they are...Graeme Swann is one of Englands greatest ever spinners and KP is among one of their greatest batsmen...Just name the guys in that team who'd be able to face ATG bowlers like Marshall, Ambrose, Steyn, Wasim, Waqar or name the spinner who would trouble every line up in this day and age on any track-even the ones of Australia..KP manhandled steyn like no one has done before and I doubt half of the XI you picked can.
How you don't have Boycott or Botham is also baffling
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Your guarantee is untestable and therefore I do not believe it. All you have is opinion and here are mine: I believe that a champion in one era is a champion in any era. For example, Hutton faced Lindwall and Miller who were in the same class as those bowlers you name.

KP does not have a significantly higher average than Cook and Bell, and those guys just aren't that good in any event. Put KP in the fifties against Trueman and with the size of gate he leaves would keep getting out clean bowled or chopping on.

Swann has a good record on the flat decks of today but remember that he benefited from the recent change in the LBW law, which Laker did not.

Boycott wasn't ATG in my book - he was an accumulator not in the class of Hobbs and Hutton who were proper all-conditions batsmen.

Botham wasn't among the best six ENG batters or the best five bowlers and therefore the case for his inclusion is less than compelling. Hammond is more than capable of doing the fourth seamer job and was one of the best slips of all time as well as being ENG's best ever batsman.
 
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Pakistan's inability to find a proper keeper-batsman will prevent its all-time XI's for being balanced.
 
ChaudrySaab said:
1) Saeed Anwar
2) Hanif Mohammad
3) Younis Khan
4) Javed Miandad
5) Inzamam Ul Haq
6) Mohammad Yousuf
7) Wasim Bari (WK)
8) Imran Khan (C)
9) Wasim Akram
10) Waqar Younis
11) Abdul Qadir

Hard to pick the perfect XI as you have to leave players that you would want in there such as Fazal Mohammad, Zaheer Abbas etc.
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This would be mine but I'd have Saqlain over Qadir and Ajmal over both in a couple of years.
 
Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Tendulkar
Hazare
Laxman
Dhoni
Kapil
Kumble
Srinath
Bedi
 
Robert said:
Your guarantee is untestable and therefore I do not believe it. All you have is opinion and here are mine: I believe that a champion in one era is a champion in any era. For example, Hutton faced Lindwall and Miller who were in the same class as those bowlers you name.

KP does not have a significantly higher average than Cook and Bell, and those guys just aren't that good in any event. Put KP in the fifties against Trueman and with the size of gate he leaves would keep getting out clean bowled or chopping on.

Swann has a good record on the flat decks of today but remember that he benefited from the recent change in the LBW law, which Laker did not.

Boycott wasn't ATG in my book - he was an accumulator not in the class of Hobbs and Hutton who were proper all-conditions batsmen.

Botham wasn't among the best six ENG batters or the best five bowlers and therefore the case for his inclusion is less than compelling. Hammond is more than capable of doing the fourth seamer job and was one of the best slips of all time as well as being ENG's best ever batsman.
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Fair enough if your XI is based on opinions. Its just that I disagree

But one thing I'll say is that cricket is not played on spreadsheet. I rank KP among 50+ averagers and Swann almost on murali and warne level in tests.
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Difficult to have one team for both home and overseas (read outside SC) conditions, so I have separated them.

Home All time Test XI
Gavaskar
Sehwag
Dravid
Sachin
Azharuddin
Laxman
Dhoni
Kapil Dev
Kumble
Bedi
Srinath

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Overseas XI

Gavaskar
RJ Shastri
Dravid
Sachin
M.Amarnath
Viswanath
S.Kirmani
Kapil Dev
Zaheer Khan
Srinath
B.S.Chandrasekhar
 
So far this is the most balance squad I can think off. 6 top batsmen, 1 wicket-keeper batsman, 1 All rounder, 2 genuine fast bowlers and 1 magical spinner. With this squad we can always go for win in any pitch. We have swing, pace and spin.

1. Saeed Anwar
2. Hanif Mohammed
3. Mohammad Yousuf
4. Javed Miandad
5. Younis Khan (C)
6. Inzmam-ul-Haq
7. Imtiaz Ahmed (WK)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Waqar Younis
10. Shoaib Akhter
11. Saqlain Mustaq

Five Back ups:
1. Zaheer Abbas
2. Saeed Ajmal
3. Fazal Mahmood
4. Mohammad Amir as debutant
5. Aamer Sohail
 
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Shafi said:
So far this is the most balance squad I can think off. 6 top batsmen, 1 wicket-keeper batsman, 1 All rounder, 2 genuine fast bowlers and 1 magical spinner. With this squad we can always go for win in any pitch. We have swing, pace and spin.

1. Saeed Anwar
2. Hanif Mohammed
3. Mohammad Yousuf
4. Javed Miandad
5. Younis Khan (C)
6. Inzmam-ul-Haq
7. Imtiaz Ahmed (WK)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Waqar Younis
10. Shoaib Akhter
11. Saqlain Mustaq

Five Back ups:
1. Zaheer Abbas
2. Saeed Ajmal
3. Fazal Mahmood
4. Mohammad Amir as debutant
5. Aamer Sohail
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No Imran Khan in your team? :O You put Akhtar ahead of Imran?
 
SL's Test XI

Sanath Jayasuriya
Arjuna Ranatunga
Aravinda De Silva
Sangakarra
Jayawardene
Malinda Warnapura
Samaraweera
Dilshan
Muralitharan
Herath
Vaas
 
Imran makes it to World all time XI let alone paks


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Haz95 said:
Imran makes it to World all time XI let alone paks
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I agree with this. In the bowling all-rounder slot it would be close between him and Keith Miller but I think Imran just shades it because the Nugget didn't really like bowling (despite being a genius at it).
 
Kiri said:
SL's Test XI

Sanath Jayasuriya
Arjuna Ranatunga
Aravinda De Silva
Sangakarra
Jayawardene
Malinda Warnapura
Samaraweera
Dilshan
Muralitharan
Herath
Vaas
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This looks like a make shift one . How can you open with Ranatunga ?

Just one pacer ?
 
Pakistan

hanif Mohammad
saeed Anwar
Zaheer Abbas
Inzamam
M. Yousuf
J. Miandad
Imran Khan
Rashid latif
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younis
A.Qadir
 
Justcrazy said:
This looks like a make shift one . How can you open with Ranatunga ?

Just one pacer ?
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It's not in order, just named the players that would make the XI. Yes, SL have only produced 1 quality test pacer.
 
Robert said:
I'd be inclined to promote Gooch to open, drop Chef, promote Stewie to #3 and give the gloves to Knott. Also, bring in Fraser for Jimmy.
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I could go with most of that but not Fraser for Anderson - Jimmy at his best has the ball on a string and moves it both ways at will to left or right handers. Fraser was a great trier and a good bowler but nowhere near as skilful an operator as Anderson, particularly given some of the slow pitches he's had to bowl on in recent years.

Jimmy tends to attract a lot of opprobrium on this site from what I've read, but 343 Test wickets with 15 five-fors and 2 ten-fors isn't bad going.
 
Bickers said:
I could go with most of that but not Fraser for Anderson - Jimmy at his best has the ball on a string and moves it both ways at will to left or right handers. Fraser was a great trier and a good bowler but nowhere near as skilful an operator as Anderson, particularly given some of the slow pitches he's had to bowl on in recent years.

Jimmy tends to attract a lot of opprobrium on this site from what I've read, but 343 Test wickets with 15 five-fors and 2 ten-fors isn't bad going.
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This is due to the fact that he averages a woeful 36 away with a strike rate of 67....That's an Indian Pacer level stat. Also, he generally has poor readings vs every team barring Pakistan ironically and New Zealand.
His problem is that he's too inconsistent as his career average of almost 31 puts him among the decent category showing that this guy is just another bowler. If he is to be considered on this site, he should at least have a sub 50ish Strike Rate and sub 27ish average.
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Wasim, Waqar and Shoaib all are far better than Imran Khan.
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:))) How did you come to this conclusion?
 
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So he's the English bowling version of Virender Sehwag? That's still a class player. Nobody's saying he's the best of all time.

He tends to go badly against top class batsmen in my opinion, rather than in foreign conditions. He's done well on multiple tours of the subcontinent but came unstuck in the 06/07 Ashes, in the 2012 series against South Africa...
 
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Shafi said:
Wasim, Waqar and Shoaib all are far better than Imran Khan.
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Joke of a post. Wasim and Waqar being better than Imran purely as bowlers is atleast understandable. Shoaib being even nearly as good as Imran? I'm sorry that's just outrageous.
 
Bickers said:
So he's the English bowling version of Virender Sehwag? That's still a class player. Nobody's saying he's the best of all time.

He tends to go badly against top class batsmen in my opinion, rather than in foreign conditions. He's done well on multiple tours of the subcontinent but came unstuck in the 06/07 Ashes, in the 2012 series against South Africa...
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Actually no...Viru averages 49 with the bat which is no mean feat. Also, Jimmy is a useful and skillful bowler but someone with 300+ test wickets is usually in the great bracket but sadly, Jimmy doesn't make it here. And Broad has teh same problem too where he's rather inconsistent(he had a good Ashes tour tho)
 
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Joke of a post. Wasim and Waqar being better than Imran purely as bowlers is atleast understandable. Shoaib being even nearly as good as Imran? I'm sorry that's just outrageous.
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1. Imran khan played in Bowling pitches where as Shoaib played in mostly batting paradise pitches.

2. Shoaib mostly played with Wasim and Waqar so he hardly got new ball.

3. In many cases Kamran drops catches (In 2011 World cup Kamran dropped Taylor in crucial stage cost the match and his career).

4. Aggression is the main factor for that I put Shoaib ahead of Imran. He is the Malinga of Pakistan.

5. We badly misses players like Malinga (Helped Sri Lanka to get World T20) or Shoaib to pick up wickets in death overs.
 
Shafi said:
1. Imran khan played in Bowling pitches where as Shoaib played in mostly batting paradise pitches.

2. Shoaib mostly played with Wasim and Waqar so he hardly got new ball.

3. In many cases Kamran drops catches (In 2011 World cup Kamran dropped Taylor in crucial stage cost the match and his career).

4. Aggression is the main factor for that I put Shoaib ahead of Imran. He is the Malinga of Pakistan.

5. We badly misses players like Malinga (Helped Sri Lanka to get World T20) or Shoaib to pick up wickets in death overs.
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In an alltime Test XI why would you need a death over specialist? Besides Waqar Wasim were excelent death overs bowlers anyway but that's besides the point. Imran is Pakistan's greatest cricketer. Period.
 
Graeme Smith (C)
Barry Richards
Graeme Pollock
Jacques Kallis
AB de Villiers (WK)
Dudley Nourse
Mike Proctor
Shaun Pollock
Hugh Tayfield
Dale Steyn
Allan Donald
 
Shafi said:
1. Imran khan played in Bowling pitches where as Shoaib played in mostly batting paradise pitches.

2. Shoaib mostly played with Wasim and Waqar so he hardly got new ball.

3. In many cases Kamran drops catches (In 2011 World cup Kamran dropped Taylor in crucial stage cost the match and his career).

4. Aggression is the main factor for that I put Shoaib ahead of Imran. He is the Malinga of Pakistan.

5. We badly misses players like Malinga (Helped Sri Lanka to get World T20) or Shoaib to pick up wickets in death overs.
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Not in Pakistan. During Imran's time home pitches were not bowling pitches. Wasim and Waqar may be equal to or greater than Imran as bowlers, but not Shoaib certainly.
 
Shafi said:
1. Imran khan played in Bowling pitches where as Shoaib played in mostly batting paradise pitches.

2. Shoaib mostly played with Wasim and Waqar so he hardly got new ball.

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1- Pakistani wickets were mostly flat.

2 - You can make a case for Wasim being better than IK and it will be perfectly fine. You could stretch it and make a case for Waqar being better than IK as well. I don't agree but you could still do it using stats even though there was difference in quality.

Now, there is no way you could make a case of Akhtar being better than IK. Gap is simply too huge.
 
Shafi said:
1. Imran khan played in Bowling pitches where as Shoaib played in mostly batting paradise pitches.

2. Shoaib mostly played with Wasim and Waqar so he hardly got new ball.

3. In many cases Kamran drops catches (In 2011 World cup Kamran dropped Taylor in crucial stage cost the match and his career).

4. Aggression is the main factor for that I put Shoaib ahead of Imran. He is the Malinga of Pakistan.

5. We badly misses players like Malinga (Helped Sri Lanka to get World T20) or Shoaib to pick up wickets in death overs.
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Feeble arguments. Imran, in his prime, had the best average out of ANY bowler to have played the game. Akhtar was pretty good but nowhere near Imran when picking an all-time XI.
 
Jo_Don said:
Graeme Smith (C)
Barry Richards
Graeme Pollock
Jacques Kallis
AB de Villiers (WK)
Dudley Nourse
Mike Proctor
Shaun Pollock
Hugh Tayfield
Dale Steyn
Allan Donald
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No room for classy Amla? :amla
 
Mamoon said:
No room for classy Amla? :amla
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Well, what can you say! SA has produced such a great set of players that even a guy like Amla can left out from the ATG XI :D

In all seriousness, he is still playing. Most players are judged based on their entire career. Apart from Steyn , no current player in entire world really stakes that big a claim on ATG tag. Amla should be judged after he retires.
 
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What's your all time Test XI ???

Gavaskar
Barry Richards
Bradman
Sachin
Viv
Sobers
Gilchrist (wk)
Imran (c)
Warne
Marshall
Mcgrath
 
We have had so many of these threads. The mods should just merge them all into a mega-thread.
 
This thread is for all time if ur own country.. I tried but didn't find any all time test xi
 
Chrish said:
Gavaskar
Barry Richards
Bradman
Sachin
Viv
Sobers
Gilchrist (wk)
Imran (c)
Warne
Marshall
Mcgrath
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Wrong thread to merge this new thread in to. This one is about test XI's for your country why Chrish's post is in general.
 
1. Saeed Anwar
2. Aamir Sohail
3. Javed Miandad
4. Inzamam Ul Haq
5. Younus Khan
6. Imran Khan *
7. Rashid Latif (WK)
8. Wasim Akram
9. Saqlain Mushtaq/ Abdul Qadir
10. Waqar Younis
11. Shoaib Akhtar
 
Chrish said:
Gavaskar
Barry Richards
Bradman
Sachin
Viv
Sobers
Gilchrist (wk)
Imran (c)
Warne
Marshall
Mcgrath
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Not intended for this thread but nonetheless I have to point out Wasim Akram was far greater bowler than Mcgrath who himself said Wasim was the most skillful bowler he ever came across.

Viv Richards recently said Wasim was the toughest bowler he ever faced and rated him as the best, likewise did Lara.

Wasim Akram was the greater bowler simply because he is the most complete bowler that has graced this earth, be it with new or old ball and whatever the conditions he was out of this world.
 
biggestdravidfan said:
Post the All time TEST XI of the country you belong to. For me - Sunil Gavaskar , Virender Sehwag , Rahul Dravid , Sachin Tendulkar , VVS Laxman , Farokh Engineer , Kapil Dev , Anil Kumble , Javagal Srinath , Bishan Bedi , Bhagwath Chandrasekhar
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No Amarnath?
 
In precise order:

Saeed Anwar
Hanif Mohammed
Javed Miandad
Younis Khan
Inzamam
Imran Khan (C)
Rashid Latif (WK)
Wasim Akram
Saqlain Mushtaq
Abdul Qadir
Waqar Younis

Notable mentions who would be reserves in the squad:
Zaheer Abbas
Mohammed Yousuf
Fazal Mahmood
Shoaib Akhtar
Mushtaq Ahmed
 
Buffet said:
All time SA XI.


  • Barry Richards -- One of the finest talents of the 20th century
  • Graeme Smith * -- More familiar name for younger fans
  • Jacques Kallis -- One of the finest all rounder of all time.
  • Graeme Pollock -- Voted in 1999 as South Africa's Cricketer of the 20th Century
  • Dudley Nourse -- A gun batsman and best for 15 years in SA. 9 centuries in 34 tests, avg 53.xx
  • Aubrey Faulkner -- One of the greatest all rounders of his era.
  • Mike Procter -- One of the most natural talented all rounders in world cricket
  • John Waite + -- An outstanding wicketkeeper-batsman. The first SAcan to play 50 Tests.
  • Dale Steyn --- Will go down as an ATG bowler.
  • Hugh Tayfield -- One of the greatest off-spinners in cricket. 170 wickets at 25.xx
  • Allan Donald -- ATG fast bowler.

12th man - Shaun Pollock

SA has produced too many quality all rounders as compared to any other countries and that's why we have so many in this XI.
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Without AB, that list holds no credibility.
 
All time Test XI

What would be your all time test Cricket XI?

My Pick:

Barry Richards
Gavaskar
Bradman (c)
Sachin
Viv Richards
Sobers
Gilly (wk)
Warne
Marshall
Steyn
Mcgrath
 
Saeed Anwar
Hanif Muhammad
Younus Khan
Javed Miandad
Mohammad Yousuf
Inzamam
Rashid Lateef
Imran Khan (c)
Wasim Akram
Waqar Younus
Abdul Qadir
 
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