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The Ashes: England v Australia | 1st Test | Edgbaston | Jun 16-Jun 20 | Day 1

Root reverse scooped 86 mile delivery of cummins over 3rd man for six.....jeeezzzz

One for boland,one for cummins:stokes
 
Broad gone, Aussies chipping away but Eng do have runs on the board.
 
Kroll said:
Broad gone, Aussies chipping away but Eng do have runs on the board.
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But what's the point of giving so much time to Australia in this game.

Need to know when to slow down - need to see off the day
 
Bazball has worked for england beautifully and they may lose a test match here and there but they won't change what has worked for them so well.
 
Root gets his century

Weird thing is 100 off 140 seems a bit slow. But wasn’t really as he just accumulated steadily with those reverse scoops added in.
 
Joe Root scores 30th Test century and first against Australia since 2015

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MenInG said:
But what's the point of giving so much time to Australia in this game.

Need to know when to slow down - need to see off the day
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They will get out anyway without scoring. Attacking cricket is the way to go.

England will score around 400 and they are in the game. Like commentators are saying, its the runs that matter.
 
MenInG said:
But what's the point of giving so much time to Australia in this game.

Need to know when to slow down - need to see off the day
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Runs on board quick or slow don't matter. Along as they get 400 they have runs and scoreboard pressure to play with.
 
England declare before 400, guess the seamers need to damage tonight then.
 
For now it seems more stupid than brave ,.considering pitch and Oz batting. what you guys think ?
 
If england can snatch a wicket or two today, then this will be a master move

Whilst australia going past 500-550 in first innings might make this as a stupid move
 
Day 1: Innings Break

ENG 393/8 d (78) CRR: 5.04
 
Protea Fan said:
If england can snatch a wicket or two today, then this will be a master move

Whilst australia going past 500-550 in first innings might make this as a stupid move
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No still won't be a stupid move. England can bulldoze them in the 2nd dig and come back strong in 4th innings.
 
Aussies should score minimum 600,.than bundle England for under 300.in second dig and chase down the around 100 target to destroy this nonsense and moronic Bazball
 
Jeeez, Eng really trolling the Aussies here. :)))

I was away, looked up and saw Aus walking off thinking it was the end of the days play.
 
Root was smashing lyon from left right and centre ,so close to 450 was very much gettable in next couple of overs

But stoksey and baz are known for these outrageous calls
 
I think its a good move, the last 10 overs of a day tend to give chances and wickets. One wicket here and England in control of the test.
 
Aussie openers are good but they are their weakest link in English conditions.

Could be 2 down quickly.

I hope Ussie scores big though.
 
Eng have revolutionised test cricket, they have rejuvenated a dying beast.
 
Why jimmy not with the new ball in england?

This is some crazy stuff from stokes

He might get lots of backlash with a negative result
 
No matter the intent and statement, I think Eng should have definitely batted on and tried to get to the 450 mark.

Nah $%* it, come on England.
 
Zeshan547 said:
For now it seems more stupid than brave ,.considering pitch and Oz batting. what you guys think ?
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England will win this game. It's a dry surface run scoring is going to get difficult as the game progresses. Aus may score 400-425 in first innings but that won't be enough as they have to bat last
 
England's bowling is very ordinary. India's seamers were better and that says a lot.

Australia would be happy at the stumps on Day 1
 
Rajdeep said:
England's bowling is very ordinary. India's seamers were better and that says a lot.

Australia would be happy at the stumps on Day 1
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U mean shami, siraj the newcomer and useless umesh are better than Anderson and broad in England?
 
sam_ahm said:
If this is all about dead tracks and playing the so called 'Bazball' on dead wickets then we might be in for 5 boring draws because Aussies are no Pakistan to get bowled out even on flat decks.

Otherwise England might self explode and lose wickets to rash shots or declare 'Sportively (read foolishly)' then also Aussies will take advantage and win this easily.

So I can't see an England win in any case if the wickets are dead. It's either Draw or Australia.
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Turned out exactly this way. Threw away wickets on a dead track and followed it up with a stupid declaration. It was so predictable.

With this approach, the best way to beat England is to prepare dead flat tracks. On a sportive wicket this approach works better.
 
Rajdeep said:
England's bowling is very ordinary. India's seamers were better and that says a lot.

Australia would be happy at the stumps on Day 1
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Yeah, lets make conclusions after 3 or 4 overs.
 
Brilliant entertainment all day, gripping Test cricket.

Day 2 will be great as well. Sit back and enjoy it.
 
Ahmed216 said:
U mean shami, siraj the newcomer and useless umesh are better than Anderson and broad in England?
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Kroll said:
Yeah, lets make conclusions after 3 or 4 overs.
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Look I may be wrong and obviously there is a bit of bias there :asif

But what I am saying is Shami & Siraj has got better pace than Broad, Robinson & Anderson. On this flat deck with no lateral movement, pace is key.

Also, England bowling is very one dimensional. India with Thakur and Jadeja has more variety.

Moeen Ali is the only bowler than would trouble Aussies tomorrow, else it will be easy sailing :imam
 
Rajdeep said:
Look I may be wrong and obviously there is a bit of bias there :asif

But what I am saying is Shami & Siraj has got better pace than Broad, Robinson & Anderson. On this flat deck with no lateral movement, pace is key.

Also, England bowling is very one dimensional. India with Thakur and Jadeja has more variety.

Moeen Ali is the only bowler than would trouble Aussies tomorrow, else it will be easy sailing :imam
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Well they've taken Wood out in favour of Broad, so they know something we don't.
 
Zeshan547 said:
Aussies should score minimum 600,.than bundle England for under 300.in second dig and chase down the around 100 target to destroy this nonsense and moronic Bazball
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England have won an incredible 11 out of 13 Tests playing this way, so it’s not going to change any time soon.
 
Super flat pitch. Expect Labu and Smith score hundreds tomorrow.
Australia will score 500 and will put England under pressure. England should not have declared. Root and Ollie were going great guns and could have easily scored in excess of 450 in no time.
 
sam_ahm said:
Turned out exactly this way. Threw away wickets on a dead track and followed it up with a stupid declaration. It was so predictable.

With this approach, the best way to beat England is to prepare dead flat tracks. On a sportive wicket this approach works better.
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One post among several which just misses the point I’m afraid.

Stokes has openly said that he doesn’t really mind if he ends up on the losing team. This England regime’s main concern is getting people talking about cricket, selling out the ground and giving paying customers their moneys worth.

Even the recent Test against Ireland was close to a full house, which in England let alone any other country rarely happens against a minnow opponent.

Stokes and McCullum are doing their bit to try and keep Test cricket alive as a spectator sport. They’re doing it extremely well. Of course the result goes their way — as if often has done — it’s all the better.
 
England stunned Edgbaston by declaring against Australia on the first day of an Ashes series that more than lived up to the hype.

Joe Root's masterful unbeaten 118 pulled England from 176-5 to 393-8 when captain Ben Stokes executed the earliest first-innings declaration in Ashes history.

Root added 121 with Jonny Bairstow, who crunched 78 in as many balls, and coaxed valuable lower-order contributions from Moeen Ali, Stuart Broad and Ollie Robinson.

All this after Zak Crawley, who batted beautifully for 61, got the series off to an explosive start by hammering Pat Cummins' first ball of the day through the covers for four.

Off-spinner Nathan Lyon took 4-149 for an Australia side that looked to counter England's swashbuckling style by posting fielders to the boundary for the entire day.

If that tactic was surprising, it was nothing compared to Stokes' bold play that gave his bowlers four overs at the Australians, who had been fielding in sweltering conditions.

David Warner defied his old nemesis Stuart Broad, taking Australia to 14-0 alongside opening partner Usman Khawaja.

At the end of a breathless, memorable day, the Ashes holders found themselves 379 runs behind.
 
Incredible day's play.

Test cricket has been revolutionised by England.
 
Ahmed216 said:
U mean shami, siraj the newcomer and useless umesh are better than Anderson and broad in England?
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When the ball is not swinging Shami and Siraj are miles better than Broad and Anderson. They at least have some pace to trouble the batsmen.

Expect Broad and Jimmy to trundle at 118k's by lunch tomorrow. Broad will go for plenty in this Test. Jimmy will be economical, but will be wicketless.

Only Ollie can get some wickets. Moeen Ali did not even bowl in IPL, but he is their specialist spinner :))
 
Weak links in this England Test side - Crawley, Pope, Stokes, Moeen . That still leaves 7 high performing cricketers. OZ needs to bat smartly and look to bat long but also take on Moeen and force Stokes' knees and old Jimmy and Briad to bowl many overs.
 
James said:
One post among several which just misses the point I’m afraid.

Stokes has openly said that he doesn’t really mind if he ends up on the losing team. This England regime’s main concern is getting people talking about cricket, selling out the ground and giving paying customers their moneys worth.

Even the recent Test against Ireland was close to a full house, which in England let alone any other country rarely happens against a minnow opponent.

Stokes and McCullum are doing their bit to try and keep Test cricket alive as a spectator sport. They’re doing it extremely well. Of course the result goes their way — as if often has done — it’s all the better.
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Surely the goal for any team is to win matches for their country. Who gave England the permission to self-appoint themselves as saviors of Test cricket?

This whacky stuff is working great for them so far. It is protecting their deficiencies and maximizing their strengths. The results prove it so they deserve all the credit in the world, but I think they need to give this preachy evangelism a bit of a rest.

It is not their duty to protect Test cricket and entertain people or to teach other teams how to play Test cricket.

It is easy to say that you don’t mind losing and you will not change even if you lose when you are winning, but England’s real test will come if/when this whacky stuff backfires and they start losing heavily.

People have short memories and you are only as good as your current form. McCullum and Stokes will be under a lot of pressure and will face a lot of criticism if they don’t change their ways even if it is no longer working.

All this preachy stuff about not caring about results and doing for the betterment of the game will lose relevance once they start losing. That is when they will find themselves under proper pressure.

Nevertheless, it is fun while it lasts. England have been by far the most entertaining Test team in a very, very long time.
 
England have done an own goal by declaring this early. The aussies will not look to score anything less than 500 while playing normal cricket
 
Champ_Pal said:
When the ball is not swinging Shami and Siraj are miles better than Broad and Anderson. They at least have some pace to trouble the batsmen.

Expect Broad and Jimmy to trundle at 118k's by lunch tomorrow. Broad will go for plenty in this Test. Jimmy will be economical, but will be wicketless.

Only Ollie can get some wickets. Moeen Ali did not even bowl in IPL, but he is their specialist spinner :))
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You are discounting the experience that Anderson and co. have of bowling in England. Swing or no swing these guys know how to bowl here.
 
Mamoon said:
Surely the goal for any team is to win matches for their country. Who gave England the permission to self-appoint themselves as saviors of Test cricket?

This whacky stuff is working great for them so far. It is protecting their deficiencies and maximizing their strengths. The results prove it so they deserve all the credit in the world, but I think they need to give this preachy evangelism a bit of a rest.

It is not their duty to protect Test cricket and entertain people or to teach other teams how to play Test cricket.

It is easy to say that you don’t mind losing and you will not change even if you lose when you are winning, but England’s real test will come if/when this whacky stuff backfires and they start losing heavily.

People have short memories and you are only as good as your current form. McCullum and Stokes will be under a lot of pressure and will face a lot of criticism if they don’t change their ways even if it is no longer working.

All this preachy stuff about not caring about results and doing for the betterment of the game will lose relevance once they start losing. That is when they will find themselves under proper pressure.

<b>Nevertheless, it is fun while it lasts. </b> England have been by far the most entertaining Test team in a very, very long time.
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Well exactly. What else really matters? :)

Day to day life is such a slog and the world can be such a bleak place. Sport, on the other hand, is meant to be about entertainment. It’s been a great journey following and supporting this England team.
 
James said:
Well exactly. What else really matters? :)

Day to day life is such a slog and the world can be such a bleak place. Sport, on the other hand, is meant to be about entertainment. It’s been a great journey following and supporting this England team.
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It is easy to say that we don’t care about the results and we want to entertain when you are actually winning, but these statements don’t sound too good when you are losing.

All I am saying is that the real test for this New England management would be when/if they hit a wall and starting losing series and suddenly find themselves under pressure to play more conservatively.
 
Savak said:
England have done an own goal by declaring this early. The aussies will not look to score anything less than 500 while playing normal cricket
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They could get 500 but could also easily fold. Strap yourself in and lets see what happens.

But even if they get 500, they would only be 100 or so runs ahead. On this flat deck, Eng would still fancy their chances of reaching 450 in their next inns and leaving open another thrilling final inns of play.
 
Well, well, did Stokes still think he was still playing Barbar's Pakistan??

But seriously, I think it's declaration that gives England the best chance of winning. There is so much time left in the game to engineer a result and the famous British weather wont get involved.
 
England has made Test cricket entertaining. There's no doubt about it.
 
This pitch was more a 550 wicket. Looks like England is very confident about bowling Australia out cheaply. Even if they don't they are confident of making up in the 2nd dig. Let us see how it pans out. Australia so far looks very circumspect. If they get rid of Labu/Head/Smith who else will score for them?
 
Highlights of Day 1

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Shouldn't have declared this early. They lost to NZ by 1 run due to similar error.
They had 2 wickets left and it was just the first day, should have just racked up around 500 and Root could have done that.
 
Ahmed216 said:
You are discounting the experience that Anderson and co. have of bowling in England. Swing or no swing these guys know how to bowl here.
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Jimmy is 41, Broad is 37 and Moeen Ali is 36. That is 3 of their 4 man bowling attack.

These guys cannot bowl on flat decks like these. I can understand if this was 5 years ago. But now they are all grandpas. Expect Root to bowl a ton of overs.

Very poor bowling selection by England.
 
I don't fully understand the declaration. They had centurion Root on fire with 2 wickets in the bank, they could have easily scored 50/60 more, been bowled out in the first hour tomorrow and begin bowling, plenty of time in the game.

Instead they sacrificed those extra runs for just 4 overs at the Aussies tonight? And got 0 wickets, thus the declaration has proven useless. Saving 10 overs here are not as valuable as scoring 50/60 extra runs.
 
Stokes push his bowlers to brink with crazy declarations. They could have had some extra rest before bowling. It will be curious how this will work after Anderson/Broad. Even with them this is not the best bowling attack for all conditions.
 
jnaveen1980 said:
No still won't be a stupid move. England can bulldoze them in the 2nd dig and come back strong in 4th innings.
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Stupid move.. It's a flat pitch (as per comment), Aus just need to bat 2 days without any pressure of scoring rate then fatigue will take care of England..
 
The declaration is justified in bazeball approach but it looks very stupid decision when we take traditional test cricket approach

Ben stokes doing a great job to make dull test cricket looks interesting and that is the reason the followers to follow test cricket has increased
 
James said:
One post among several which just misses the point I’m afraid.

Stokes has openly said that he doesn’t really mind if he ends up on the losing team. This England regime’s main concern is getting people talking about cricket, selling out the ground and giving paying customers their moneys worth.

Even the recent Test against Ireland was close to a full house, which in England let alone any other country rarely happens against a minnow opponent.

Stokes and McCullum are doing their bit to try and keep Test cricket alive as a spectator sport. They’re doing it extremely well. Of course the result goes their way — as if often has done — it’s all the better.
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If saving Test Cricket is the theme, what stopped them from preparing a sportive wicket? Other than Crawley all wickets were thrown away. How exactly is this saving test cricket? If I have to watch this, I'd rather watch T20.

I'm sure that on this pitch there is no way Aussies are losing 20 wickets. Smith and Labuschagne alone will stand there entire day.
 
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