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Ability wise, Rohit shades even Kohli in LOI's.Rohit Sharma is one of the greatest white ball openers.
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Ability wise, Rohit shades even Kohli in LOI's.Rohit Sharma is one of the greatest white ball openers.
Very unique way of putting the headline.Virat Kohli equals Babar Azam’s record with fifty in T20 World Cup final
Most fifty plus scores in men’s T20Is:
Babar Azam - 39 fifty-plus scores in 123 matches
Virat Kohli - 39 in 126 matches
Rohit Sharma - 37 in 159 matches
Mohammad Rizwan - 30 in 102 matches
Cake cutting ceremony needs to be organized for Babar as his competitors have retired. His 40th T20 fifty must be celebrated with full gusto.Virat Kohli equals Babar Azam’s record with fifty in T20 World Cup final
Most fifty plus scores in men’s T20Is:
Babar Azam - 39 fifty-plus scores in 123 matches
Virat Kohli - 39 in 126 matches
Rohit Sharma - 37 in 159 matches
Mohammad Rizwan - 30 in 102 matches
I will have naseem .ssa if he picks himself againIf we are to make a combined XI of the current Ind and Pak players, no Pak player is good enough to make the team.
I hope the fanclub can turn their backs on Babar now that they have seen their worst nightmare come true last night.Chapter in T20Is is officially closed.
Kohli is better in T20Is. He won India the WT20 by playing a superb innings in the Final.
Babar failed to do so.
Chapter in T20Is is officially closed.
Kohli is better in T20Is. He won India the WT20 by playing a superb innings in the Final.
Babar failed to do so.
Babar needs to match his T20I stats with Kohli first and then win 2 WT20 Finals for his team to surpass Kohli.How's it officially closed when Babar is still playing and probably will get minimum 3 but mostly 4 more chances to win the trophy?
Weird thing to say.
Rohit is miles ahead of Babar. There is no comparison, the knock Rohit played vs AUS this WC, Babar will never be able to play such an innings.Babar is at level of KL Rahul. Even Rohit is better
Babar is at level of KL Rahul. Even Rohit is better
Mamoon won't reply until Babar reaches the age of 34. According to him, Babar will reach his peak at 34.Calling upon @Mamoon please be a good sport and congratulate Kohli and his fans on winning MOM in the final along with the only trophy he didn’t have.
Mamoon is finding a nephew to blame the last week's posts onCalling upon @Mamoon please be a good sport and congratulate Kohli and his fans on winning MOM in the final along with the only trophy he didn’t have.
I'm about to post that he looks out of shape with fat packs.Just saw Babars video of him exercising in some local park in Lahore. If those visuals are true, look at the tummy of Babar.
He was super fit back in 2021, even Virat's old fitness coach had praised his fitness back then.
He has really let himself and his talent down. Fitness is key in modern cricket.
Your misquoting me.Mamoon won't reply until Babar reaches the age of 34. According to him, Babar will reach his peak at 34.
According to @Mobashir, Babar will surpass Kohli in all formats by 2027.
So, we need to wait until then. It's still a long time to go.
But according to @heddie19, Babar is the T20 GOAT and has already surpassed Kohli in the T20 format.
@Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH, Babar has already broken Kohli's records for the fastest 1000, 2000, 3000, and 4000 runs, so he has already surpassed Kohli.
I hope the fanclub can turn their backs on Babar now that they have seen their worst nightmare come true last night.
Kohli was and will always be levels above the best cricketer we can ever produce.
Unfair to Nissanka. He's actually improving and playing with more intent.This is a bold claim. Babar is, at best, Pathum Nissanka's level.
Babar's problem arose as soon as Misbah in 2020 gave him full control.In all seriousness, Babar across formats can be rated thus.
T20's
Slightly better than Pathum Nissanka
ODI's
Slightly better than Bavuma
Tests
Slightly better than Ravindra Jadeja as a batter
@Mobashir you have been let down massively by Babar. Babar was becoming great in 2021.. and then he just dropped off the cliff. His fitness is so poor. Whereas Kohli has achieved so much more even in last stage of his career. What are your thoughts now ?So in a discussion from another thread where a poster think that Virat is above Babar over the past few years.
So lets compare them over the past 2 years.
Tests :
Virat Kohli :
14 matches, 22 innings
average 43.85
hundreds/fifties : 2/5
Babar Azam :
10 matches, 17 innings
average 66.57
hundreds/fifties : 4/5
ODI's :
Virat Kohli :
innings 26
average 56.25
SR : 94.91
hundreds/fifties : 2/13
Babar Azam :
innings 19
average 71.12
SR : 96.14
hundreds/fifties : 5/6
T20's :
Virat Kohli :
innings 22
average 59.73
SR : 143
hundreds/fifties : 0/8
Babar Azam :
innings 16
average 39.14
SR : 136
hundreds/fifties : 0/7
So how is it even comparable? Over the past 2 years Babar is in a different league when compared to Virat Kohli and there is no shame to have for Kohli and indian fans.
Babar is in a terrefic form, the form of his life.
Test average difference of 23, ODI average difference of 16, 2 times more hundreds.
Everything is in Babar's favor.
There is really no other way to look at it apart if you are a hater.
It's funny how an end of the rope kohli who faiked an entire tournament before the final is still Miles > Babar and rizwan who are supposedly in the prime of their careerI can't believe these babar fans are still trying to convince people that Babar is better than Kohli.
LOL no, Babar is far from fit.Babar is fairly fit, not ripped of course.
This happens when you eat high salt food, body retains water and the belly appears large. It goes back to normal after a short period of normal diet
It's funny how an end of the rope kohli who faiked an entire tournament before the final is still Miles > Babar and rizwan who are supposedly in
By fit I mean by normal person standards (not having a big belly). Babar's not fit by sportperson standards but he's fairly lean with a small tummy that appears bigger due to water retention after eating high salt foodsLOL no, Babar is far from fit.
He is skinny with a tummy, now that is a pathetic combo for an athlete.
Still remember how smartly Babar posted for Virat during his rough patch. He had different intentions to it. He thought he is the ruler of the world, he's some vivian richards or Bradman of past.
He wanted to show the world that he's superior and Kohli's not the same anymore. If he had literal cares for King Kohli then he would have atleast congratulated him on his T20I retirement.
All that in the past was a gimmick to take a dig at virat, make him feel that he's not the best anymore and grab the world's attention. Babar you can never be him, leave aside cricket you can never be him as a human being.
Bloody Cricket humbles you in different ways!!!
Deadlifting 145 kg produces little benefit other than giving you an false ego boost. I doubt even a Novak Djokovic or Cristiano Ronaldo does such thingsThis Kohli and fitness talk needs to take a pause. Cricket is a forgiving sport when it comes to fitness especially for batsmen. Yes, Babar could do better but I do not think it's his fitness that's holding him back. His lack of fitness (and performances) are probably due to some deeper underlying reasons.
Also, back in 2014 I too was impressed with Kohli getting ripped etc. I started lifting in 2015 and man it makes me laugh when folks talk about Virat being a strength/fitness icon when he can barely deadlift 140 kg - that's my warm up set.
Problem with Babar is he lacks the natural timing to be a big hitter like Rohit Sharma or KL Rahul. And his lack of physical strength means he can never be power hitter like Shivam Dube or Rinku SinghBy fit I mean by normal person standards (not having a big belly). Babar's not fit by sportperson standards but he's fairly lean with a small tummy that appears bigger due to water retention after eating high salt foods
Needs to cut down on high fat high salt diets and work out regularly and he can get rid of the paunch very quickly. An athlete needs to maintain diet and workout discipline through the year.
@Mobashir you have been let down massively by Babar. Babar was becoming great in 2021.. and then he just dropped off the cliff. His fitness is so poor. Whereas Kohli has achieved so much more even in last stage of his career. What are your thoughts now ?
This Kohli and fitness talk needs to take a pause. Cricket is a forgiving sport when it comes to fitness especially for batsmen. Yes, Babar could do better but I do not think it's his fitness that's holding him back. His lack of fitness (and performances) are probably due to some deeper underlying reasons.
Also, back in 2014 I too was impressed with Kohli getting ripped etc. I started lifting in 2015 and man it makes me laugh when folks talk about Virat being a strength/fitness icon when he can barely deadlift 140 kg - that's my warm up set.
Hopefully kohli also tweets the same thingAgain..
All that has happened in the last 2-3 years takes me back to that one tweet made by Babar Azam back in mid-2022 when Kohli was going through a horrid phase and Babar, the batter was on a steady rise.
"This too shall pass.. stay strong".
Call me whatever you want...But no one can ever convince me that tweet was made in good conscience by any stretch of imagination. Babar knew exactly what he/his handler was doing and what they were aiming for at that time. That was one of the sneakiest, lamest and the most conniving attempt at diminishing Kohli and establishing Babar Azam as the new chief and to make the world actually believe it...all the while making him seem holier than thou. And BOY OH BOY did that proverbial fecal balloon blew back in Babar's face or what..
2 Years have passed by since then..
Virat Kohli has now retired a World Champion being MOTM in the final, Player of the tournament in the other format's WC, won Asia cup ...whilst battering Pakistan 2-3 times on his way and completed LOI cricket.
Meanwhile..
Babar Azam is buried in depths of despair leading his team to multiple tournament humiliations , multiple defeats to rank minnows in all formats to go with his own 'worse than mediocre' batting performances. And naughty boy is also on the verge of getting sacked from captaincy for the second time in 8 months...tsk tsk.
Karma/fate is just *chef's kiss*... it devours everyone that tries to duck it. Hope Bobby boy realises atleast now where it all went wrong..
Yup... the most sly thing done by the agency of Babar... doubt Babar even knows or understabds till day about what was posted.Again..
All that has happened in the last 2-3 years takes me back to that one tweet made by Babar Azam back in mid-2022 when Kohli was going through a horrid phase and Babar, the batter was on a steady rise.
"This too shall pass.. stay strong".
Call me whatever you want...But no one can ever convince me that tweet was made in good conscience by any stretch of imagination. Babar knew exactly what he/his handler was doing and what they were aiming for at that time. That was one of the sneakiest, lamest and the most conniving attempt at diminishing Kohli and establishing Babar Azam as the new chief and to make the world actually believe it...all the while making him seem holier than thou. And BOY OH BOY did that proverbial fecal balloon blew back in Babar's face or what..
2 Years have passed by since then..
Virat Kohli has now retired a World Champion being MOTM in the final, Player of the tournament in the other format's WC, won Asia cup ...whilst battering Pakistan 2-3 times on his way and completed LOI cricket.
Meanwhile..
Babar Azam is buried in depths of despair leading his team to multiple tournament humiliations , multiple defeats to rank minnows in all formats to go with his own 'worse than mediocre' batting performances. And naughty boy is also on the verge of getting sacked from captaincy for the second time in 8 months...tsk tsk.
Karma/fate is just *chef's kiss*... it devours everyone that tries to duck it. Hope Bobby boy realises atleast now where it all went wrong..
No he will not.. he is busy celebrating..Hopefully kohli also tweets the same thing
Yeah he should so babar can get back in form as kohli didHopefully kohli also tweets the same thing
Hopefully kohli also tweets the same thing
Yeah he should so babar can get back in form as kohli did
That's not how it works.
Kohli is a man driven by his passion and wears his heart on his sleeve. I am pretty sure you too know Babar doesn't have the jigra to take such things in his stride.
I don't know if it was as sneaky as you suggest, but he need not have made it a public tweet. If his intention was solely to send good wishes, he could have done it privately. Surely, a player of Babar's stature should have no problem obtaining Virat's personal number.Again..
All that has happened in the last 2-3 years takes me back to that one tweet made by Babar Azam back in mid-2022 when Kohli was going through a horrid phase and Babar, the batter was on a steady rise.
"This too shall pass.. stay strong".
Call me whatever you want...But no one can ever convince me that tweet was made in good conscience by any stretch of imagination. Babar knew exactly what he/his handler was doing and what they were aiming for at that time. That was one of the sneakiest, lamest and the most conniving attempt at diminishing Kohli and establishing Babar Azam as the new chief and to make the world actually believe it...all the while making him seem holier than thou. And BOY OH BOY did that proverbial fecal balloon blew back in Babar's face or what..
2 Years have passed by since then..
Virat Kohli has now retired a World Champion being MOTM in the final, Player of the tournament in the other format's WC, won Asia cup ...whilst battering Pakistan 2-3 times on his way and completed LOI cricket.
Meanwhile..
Babar Azam is buried in depths of despair leading his team to multiple tournament humiliations , multiple defeats to rank minnows in all formats to go with his own 'worse than mediocre' batting performances. And naughty boy is also on the verge of getting sacked from captaincy for the second time in 8 months...tsk tsk.
Karma/fate is just *chef's kiss*... it devours everyone that tries to duck it. Hope Bobby boy realises atleast now where it all went wrong..
You have an amazingly wrong notion about fitness in a sport like cricket. Kohli can bat a whole 90 overs and can still run a quick triple in the last ball of the day. It's not about building bulky muscles (that can actually be counter productive), but about keeping the balance l and with higher focus on stamina and endurance.This Kohli and fitness talk needs to take a pause. Cricket is a forgiving sport when it comes to fitness especially for batsmen. Yes, Babar could do better but I do not think it's his fitness that's holding him back. His lack of fitness (and performances) are probably due to some deeper underlying reasons.
Also, back in 2014 I too was impressed with Kohli getting ripped etc. I started lifting in 2015 and man it makes me laugh when folks talk about Virat being a strength/fitness icon when he can barely deadlift 140 kg - that's my warm up set.
If Babar had tweeted that with good intent, he would have also wished him on his retirement and on winning Player of the Match in the final, just like Shaheen Shah Afridi did.Again..
All that has happened in the last 2-3 years takes me back to that one tweet made by Babar Azam back in mid-2022 when Kohli was going through a horrid phase and Babar, the batter was on a steady rise.
"This too shall pass.. stay strong".
Call me whatever you want...But no one can ever convince me that tweet was made in good conscience by any stretch of imagination. Babar knew exactly what he/his handler was doing and what they were aiming for at that time. That was one of the sneakiest, lamest and the most conniving attempt at diminishing Kohli and establishing Babar Azam as the new chief and to make the world actually believe it...all the while making him seem holier than thou. And BOY OH BOY did that proverbial fecal balloon blew back in Babar's face or what..
2 Years have passed by since then..
Virat Kohli has now retired a World Champion being MOTM in the final, Player of the tournament in the other format's WC, won Asia cup ...whilst battering Pakistan 2-3 times on his way and completed LOI cricket.
Meanwhile..
Babar Azam is buried in depths of despair leading his team to multiple tournament humiliations , multiple defeats to rank minnows in all formats to go with his own 'worse than mediocre' batting performances. And naughty boy is also on the verge of getting sacked from captaincy for the second time in 8 months...tsk tsk.
Karma/fate is just *chef's kiss*... it devours everyone that tries to duck it. Hope Bobby boy realises atleast now where it all went wrong..
Interesting points. Makes me rethink the intent of his famous tweet.If Babar had tweeted that with good intent, he would have also wished him on his retirement and on winning Player of the Match in the final, just like Shaheen Shah Afridi did.
Also, Babar congratulated Aus last year when India lost the final but No congrats for india on winning now.
If Babar had tweeted that with good intent, he would have also wished him on his retirement and on winning Player of the Match in the final, just like Shaheen Shah Afridi did.
Also, Babar congratulated Aus last year when India lost the final but No congrats for india on winning now.
The fact that Babar hasn't posted a single congratulatory msg to either India or Kohli seems to support your theory.Again..
All that has happened in the last 2-3 years takes me back to that one tweet made by Babar Azam back in mid-2022 when Kohli was going through a horrid phase and Babar, the batter was on a steady rise.
"This too shall pass.. stay strong".
Call me whatever you want...But no one can ever convince me that tweet was made in good conscience by any stretch of imagination. Babar knew exactly what he/his handler was doing and what they were aiming for at that time. That was one of the sneakiest, lamest and the most conniving attempt at diminishing Kohli and establishing Babar Azam as the new chief and to make the world actually believe it...all the while making him seem holier than thou. And BOY OH BOY did that proverbial fecal balloon blew back in Babar's face or what..
2 Years have passed by since then..
Virat Kohli has now retired a World Champion being MOTM in the final, Player of the tournament in the other format's WC, won Asia cup ...whilst battering Pakistan 2-3 times on his way and completed LOI cricket.
Meanwhile..
Babar Azam is buried in depths of despair leading his team to multiple tournament humiliations , multiple defeats to rank minnows in all formats to go with his own 'worse than mediocre' batting performances. And naughty boy is also on the verge of getting sacked from captaincy for the second time in 8 months...tsk tsk.
Karma/fate is just *chef's kiss*... it devours everyone that tries to duck it. Hope Bobby boy realises atleast now where it all went wrong..
Yeah I forgot to mention this point in my post. Clear indication of his intentions when he sent out that tweet.
This is what happens when millions of delusional fan desperately try to manufacture a "king" out of a player who is closer to Rahane level than to Kohli's.
So true, Rahane has match winning (and series winning in case of Aus) hundreds I'm England and Australia - two of the toughest places.Rahane would take serious offense to this
Match winning hundreds at the MCG and Lords which makes it even more specialSo true, Rahane has match winning (and series winning in case of Aus) hundreds I'm England and Australia - two of the toughest places.
Whereas Babar'a highest score in a winning effort remains a solitary 68 in England.
That MCG one ranks up there with the best made by any visitor in Australia - for the sheer context , background and difficulty. India coming off a 36 all out humiliation, Kohli having gone back and Rahane as a stand in skipper abd then this happens. What a story !Match winning hundreds at the MCG and Lords which makes it even more special
What's the next comparison going to be done?
Jaiswal, Gill, Dube???
Now.. Can you elaborate who was better over past 1-2 years ?Thanks.
Hope the thread doesn't get deviated with other names coming in.
Who do you think was better over the past 2 years between Babar and Kohli?
He has turned out to be the most timid and mentally weak top order batter. Totally bottled in crunch situations against top teams in Asia Cup, World Cup and T20 World Cup. lets see if he can make a comeback.Comparisons aside, it surprises me how some people here have the gall to call Babar 'mediocre' or mentally weak. Its just such an intellectually dishonest thing when you fashion yourself as an avid watcher of cricket.
I don't get what posters like yourself gain by quoting years old posts. What I said at that time was reflective of that I saw at that time. And at that time Babar had delivered in a number of big matches and situations. Things have changed in the last year but that doesn't mean he can't come back.He has turned out to be the most timid and mentally weak top order batter. Totally bottled in crunch situations against top teams in Asia Cup, World Cup and T20 World Cup. lets see if he can make a comeback.
@RedwoodOriginal made that comment back in 2021 bro.He has turned out to be the most timid and mentally weak top order batter. Totally bottled in crunch situations against top teams in Asia Cup, World Cup and T20 World Cup. lets see if he can make a comeback.
If Pakistan want to win, they need to do this. Drop babar. Believe me, he is their kl Rahul. He is the curse. Kl Rahul played for India since 2014. Every tournament he played in India finished second or 3rd. Moment he stepped away, lo and behold India win the WC.Again..
All that has happened in the last 2-3 years takes me back to that one tweet made by Babar Azam back in mid-2022 when Kohli was going through a horrid phase and Babar, the batter was on a steady rise.
"This too shall pass.. stay strong".
Call me whatever you want...But no one can ever convince me that tweet was made in good conscience by any stretch of imagination. Babar knew exactly what he/his handler was doing and what they were aiming for at that time. That was one of the sneakiest, lamest and the most conniving attempt at diminishing Kohli and establishing Babar Azam as the new chief and to make the world actually believe it...all the while making him seem holier than thou. And BOY OH BOY did that proverbial fecal balloon blew back in Babar's face or what..
2 Years have passed by since then..
Virat Kohli has now retired a World Champion being MOTM in the final, Player of the tournament in the other format's WC, won Asia cup ...whilst battering Pakistan 2-3 times on his way and completed LOI cricket.
Meanwhile..
Babar Azam is buried in depths of despair leading his team to multiple tournament humiliations , multiple defeats to rank minnows in all formats to go with his own 'worse than mediocre' batting performances. And naughty boy is also on the verge of getting sacked from captaincy for the second time in 8 months...tsk tsk.
Karma/fate is just *chef's kiss*... it devours everyone that tries to duck it. Hope Bobby boy realises atleast now where it all went wrong..
Kohli picked a lot of quota friends nepo based selections.Babar is not the same captain as kohli was. Babar had a bunch on individuals who were in the team because of dosti yari, neoptism and politics while Kohli had a team on merit and they were talented and the bunch of guys on bench were equally good. Who do babar have??? AZAM khan?? IFTIKHAR???
Babar has not been out of form.Yeah he should so babar can get back in form as kohli did