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The Babar Azam versus Virat Kohli comparison

heddie19 said:
That is the biggest lie and myth and only people that don't understand cricket believe it
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The fact that you insist Babar is world class despite having 2 knocks against top teams in his 10 year career tells me all about your understanding of cricket.
 
Dr_Bassim said:
The fact that you insist Babar is world class despite having 2 knocks against top teams in his 10 year career tells me all about your understanding of cricket.
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He gets to have 2 top match winning knocks every series which you can't state due to your hatred against him. There must be a reason why is the number one for years now.
 
heddie19 said:
He gets to have 2 top match winning knocks every series which you can't state due to your hatred against him. There must be a reason why is the number one for years now.
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The term World Class has taken on a new meaning for some posters. Facts and figures don't mean much to them
 
heddie19 said:
There must be a reason why is the number one for years now.
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Lol this argument has already been debunked so many times by @Rana , @mominsaigol and @Dr_Bassim .

The reason he was No.1 was because he feasted on B and C teams in meaningless bilaterals when most top teams rested their best players.

The asia cup and wc, where he played actual top bowlers exposed him, he isnt lumber 1 by any stretch of imagination
 
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Statpadder Inc said:
Lol this argument has already been debunked so many times by @Rana , @mominsaigol and @Dr_Bassim .

The reason he was No.1 was because he feasted on B and C teams in meaningless bilaterals when most top teams rested their best players.

The asia cup and wc, where he played actual top bowlers exposed him, he isnt lumber 1 by any stretch of imagination
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You know what? He is still no.1 in ODIs. Now go and cry in the corner. LOL
 
heddie19 said:
You know what? He is still no.1 in ODIs. Now go and cry in the corner. LOL
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Great for him but again in the last one year, he has been the epitome of HTB in ODIs. He averages 59 at home at a SR of 90 in 10 innings but at the same time in 15 innings away from home his average drops to 36 at a SR of 76. So I think number 1 in the rankings flatter him to say the least. I don't think he has been even the best batter in Pakistan team over this period.
 
Former Pakistan team director Mohammad Hafeez, during an interview with local media, expressed his opinion on the comparison between Babar Azam and Virat Kohli:

"There is no comparison; both are exceptionally talented players. Virat Kohli's contributions and performances for India are significant and remarkable. Babar is also performing admirably for Pakistan. Comparing them in this regard is unnecessary, I don't like it. Babar is a fantastic player who has already delivered outstanding performances for Pakistan and has the potential to achieve even more. This critizism is wrong that Babar has to do everything. Babar has to adopt modern day cricket in his skills and to enchance his skills and that is something which Babar is learning very quickly."
 
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heddie19 said:
You know what? He is still no.1 in ODIs. Now go and cry in the corner. LOL
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Just shows how farcical the rankings are especially after the World Cup exposed him as a mid level player even in his best format. Limited power and skill.
 
Nikhil_cric said:
Just shows how farcical the rankings are especially after the World Cup exposed him as a mid level player even in his best format. Limited power and skill.
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He was going through a lot in the WC, internal politics plus consipiracy to remove him at the PCB (Zaka) yet managed to averaged 42. His overall WC average is around 55 which is fantastic. That's not mid teir my any teams. That is top, top tier.
 
heddie19 said:
He was going through a lot in the WC, internal politics plus consipiracy to remove him at the PCB (Zaka) yet managed to averaged 42. His overall WC average is around 55 which is fantastic. That's not mid teir my any teams. That is top, top tier.
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An average of 42 is very good, if the wc was being held in 1992.

In 2023, it's mediocre and for the so called No. 1 batsman, it's downright poor
 
Statpadder Inc said:
An average of 42 is very good, if the wc was being held in 1992.

In 2023, it's mediocre and for the so called No. 1 batsman, it's downright poor
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It was a very respectable average before the 2 new ball era. After that, it's pretty poor.
 
Bhai Mana mene medioicre avg hai yeh. Who said it isn't mediocre. I am just arguing to those who are calling it very poor.
Statpadder Inc said:
An average of 42 is very good, if the wc was being held in 1992.

In 2023, it's mediocre and for the so called No. 1 batsman, it's downright poor
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Hitman said:
It was a very respectable average before the 2 new ball era. After that, it's pretty poor.
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This comment here sums the difference in mentality when you compare Pakistan and Indian cricket.

An average of 42 is respectable by Pakistani standards from their best batsman but regarded as poor from their neighbours, who are an elite cricketing side.

What I would also like to add is that a strike rate of 82 and a grand total of zero tons is what makes it a really poor tournament for the "Pakistan's Kohli".
 
Babar Azam has surpassed Virat Kohli’s record to secure the most number of fifty-plus scores in T20 International cricket. This achievement was made during Pakistan’s final match against Ireland in the T20I series. Babar Azam has shown remarkable consistency, with three T20I centuries compared to Virat Kohli’s one.

He is also close to becoming the first Pakistani cricketer to surpass the 4000-run mark in T20I cricket, currently sitting at 3955 runs. He needs only 82 more runs to surpass Virat Kohli’s total runs in T20Is. Currently, Babar ranks third in the list of batters with the highest runs in T20I cricket, just behind Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma.​
 
BouncerGuy said:
Babar Azam has surpassed Virat Kohli’s record to secure the most number of fifty-plus scores in T20 International cricket. This achievement was made during Pakistan’s final match against Ireland in the T20I series. Babar Azam has shown remarkable consistency, with three T20I centuries compared to Virat Kohli’s one.

He is also close to becoming the first Pakistani cricketer to surpass the 4000-run mark in T20I cricket, currently sitting at 3955 runs. He needs only 82 more runs to surpass Virat Kohli’s total runs in T20Is. Currently, Babar ranks third in the list of batters with the highest runs in T20I cricket, just behind Virat Kohli and Rohit Sharma.​
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Congrats! Now tell me, how many Pakistani fans would pick Babar ahead of Kohli in their team?
 
Hitman said:
Congrats! Now tell me, how many Pakistani fans would pick Babar ahead of Kohli in their team?
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Brother, their people over here who would pick Misbah over kohli in their t20 side.

You shouldn't be asking this question and expecting it to be rhetorical question. People will answer with stupidity and will claim their giving you a rhetorical answer 😂
 
Croma said:
All these comparisons will halt when Babar wins the T20 World Cup for Pakistan as captain. :babar
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If he does that the comparison will become even more lethal.

There would be Babbar fans going ballistic and proclaiming Kohli as a nobody in front of Babbar..

The drama will be a sight to behold.
 
Hitman said:
Congrats! Now tell me, how many Pakistani fans would pick Babar ahead of Kohli in their team?
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That is like asking how many people will pick Anderson over Wasim Akram after the former has taken 700 wickets. Truth is both were exceptional players and Anderson deserves recognition for his achievements as does Babar for his consistency
 
PakPremi said:
That is like asking how many people will pick Anderson over Wasim Akram after the former has taken 700 wickets. Truth is both were exceptional players and Anderson deserves recognition for his achievements as does Babar for his consistency
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Unbelievable comments.

Anderson is an ATG test bowler and is only slightly below wasim akram, he's in his class in test easily. Although wasim akram is miles and miles superior to anderson in the odi format.

Babar doesn't even make it into the 100, let alone even into the b string Indian side, people like Sarfraz Nawaz, Rinku Singh, Jaiswal, abshikeih aka players who were considered b string and are only now making their stride and finding their way into the A string would moon walk all over Bobby before Bobby has a chance to be considered into the playing 11 or even to warm the bench.

Kohli meanwhile is frontline no 3 across the entire planet, with not a single soul questioning his inclusion as a no 3 in any format for any league or Indian team.

Anderson and wasim akram would either be bowling together or Anderson would be the first replacement for Wasim If they played for the same test 11.

Babar would be like 10th replacement for kohli lol.
 
mominsaigol said:
Unbelievable comments.

Anderson is an ATG test bowler and is only slightly below wasim akram, he's in his class in test easily. Although wasim akram is miles and miles superior to anderson in the odi format.

Babar doesn't even make it into the 100, let alone even into the b string Indian side, people like Sarfraz Nawaz, Rinku Singh, Jaiswal, abshikeih aka players who were considered b string and are only now making their stride and finding their way into the A string would moon walk all over Bobby before Bobby has a chance to be considered into the playing 11 or even to warm the bench.

Kohli meanwhile is frontline no 3 across the entire planet, with not a single soul questioning his inclusion as a no 3 in any format for any league or Indian team.

Anderson and wasim akram would either be bowling together or Anderson would be the first replacement for Wasim If they played for the same test 11.

Babar would be like 10th replacement for kohli lol.
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Yeah.. because Babar is nowhere near as good as the top Indian players.

He's still the best batsman in Pakistan. Others in Pakistan wouldn't even make the India U19 team.
 
iPakistani said:
Yeah.. because Babar is nowhere near as good as the top Indian players.

He's still the best batsman in Pakistan. Others in Pakistan wouldn't even make the India U19 team.
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The latter part is debatable but I am okay with it. But I'm countering what @PakPremi said on making an analogy of Anderson and wasim and applying to babar and kohli lol
 
Babar Azam has dethroned Virat Kohli from the top spot on the list of most runs in T20Is. He is now the highest run-scorer in the shortest format of the game. Pakistan captain scripted the record in his team’s opening game of the ICC T20 World Cup 2024 against the United States of America.

Babar has amassed 4043 runs at an average of 41.25 and a strike-rate of 129.58 in 113 innings. The right-handed batter has hit 3 hundreds and 36 fifties.

Virat has accumulated 4038 runs at an average of 51.11 and a strike-rate of 137.95 in 110 innings. Kohli has hit 1 ton and 37 fifties.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Babar Azam has dethroned Virat Kohli from the top spot on the list of most runs in T20Is. He is now the highest run-scorer in the shortest format of the game. Pakistan captain scripted the record in his team’s opening game of the ICC T20 World Cup 2024 against the United States of America.

Babar has amassed 4043 runs at an average of 41.25 and a strike-rate of 129.58 in 113 innings. The right-handed batter has hit 3 hundreds and 36 fifties.

Virat has accumulated 4038 runs at an average of 51.11 and a strike-rate of 137.95 in 110 innings. Kohli has hit 1 ton and 37 fifties.
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Another useless record for Babar.
 
Babar was 9 runs as an opener at the end of 9th over agasint USA.

His runs tally are useless in T20. In test, he is eqaully useless unless playing in roads in Pakistan.

In ODI, not close to top league but a good batsman in that format.

Babar needs to forget about not losing wickets and play some shots in T20. Starting this slow and then getting to run a ball by hitting later is not going to help Paksitan most of the times.
 
Buffet said:
Babar was 9 runs as an opener at the end of 9th over agasint USA.

His runs tally are useless in T20. In test, he is eqaully useless unless playing in roads in Pakistan.

In ODI, not close to top league but a good batsman in that format.

Babar needs to forget about not losing wickets and play some shots in T20. Starting this slow and then getting to run a ball by hitting later is not going to help Paksitan most of the times.
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He was 9 from 23 balls !
This was no way a 160 pitch.
 
Babar scoring 4 of 14 balls in the power play was the killer.He should have atleast made it 14 of 14 even wickets are falling. Sachin in 90's or any great player used to do the same by taking singles or doubles in those situations to arrest the fall.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Babar Azam has dethroned Virat Kohli from the top spot on the list of most runs in T20Is. He is now the highest run-scorer in the shortest format of the game. Pakistan captain scripted the record in his team’s opening game of the ICC T20 World Cup 2024 against the United States of America.

Babar has amassed 4043 runs at an average of 41.25 and a strike-rate of 129.58 in 113 innings. The right-handed batter has hit 3 hundreds and 36 fifties.

Virat has accumulated 4038 runs at an average of 51.11 and a strike-rate of 137.95 in 110 innings. Kohli has hit 1 ton and 37 fifties.
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Congratulations!! That’s a great achievement and a great knock of 44 (43) against a great team. Top cricketing bloke, no doubt. Kohli is surely inferior to the might of Babar in batsmanship and captaincy.
 
Babar has amassed 4043 runs at an average of 41.25 and a strike-rate of 129.58 in 113 innings.
Virat has accumulated 4038 runs at an average of 51.11 and a strike-rate of 137.95 in 110 innings.

Didnt realize the difference was that big.
 
Cricket Warrior said:
Babar Azam has dethroned Virat Kohli from the top spot on the list of most runs in T20Is. He is now the highest run-scorer in the shortest format of the game. Pakistan captain scripted the record in his team’s opening game of the ICC T20 World Cup 2024 against the United States of America.

Babar has amassed 4043 runs at an average of 41.25 and a strike-rate of 129.58 in 113 innings. The right-handed batter has hit 3 hundreds and 36 fifties.

Virat has accumulated 4038 runs at an average of 51.11 and a strike-rate of 137.95 in 110 innings. Kohli has hit 1 ton and 37 fifties.
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I hope Gary arranges a massive 🎂 cutting celebration for the undisputed 🐐. All must acknowledge 👑 Baba.
 
Kohli fans told Babar fans that opening in T20s is a piece of cake, and if Kohli opens, he will score hundreds for fun.

Now that Kohli has opened in this World Cup and failed worse than any batsman has ever failed, the same fans are begging him to come back to number 3.

🤡
 
Mamoon said:
Kohli fans told Babar fans that opening in T20s is a piece of cake, and if Kohli opens, he will score hundreds for fun.

Now that Kohli has opened in this World Cup and failed worse than any batsman has ever failed, the same fans are begging him to come back to number 3.

🤡
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When did this conversation happen?
 
Babar Azam is far more valuable to Pakistan team handling Kohi is for India at the moment.

India has been doing quite well without Kohli in most of their test series , especially big ones, since the onset of Covid. That's a solid 4 plus years. He's is redundant in tests for India at the moment.

Kohli is also redundant in T20Is going by India's performance in this cup. Jaiswal is a far better option than this Kohli anyway.

In ODIs Kohli still has some value as he has the fitness and the rotating strike ability to keep the scoreboard humming in the middle overs.

Meanwhile Babar for all his issues is still 100% essential in all formats for Pakistan.
 
Mamoon said:
Kohli fans told Babar fans that opening in T20s is a piece of cake, and if Kohli opens, he will score hundreds for fun.

Now that Kohli has opened in this World Cup and failed worse than any batsman has ever failed, the same fans are begging him to come back to number 3.

🤡
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@Mamoon Bro spitting facts like anything.
 
Kohli is having an even worse tournament than Babar had. Failed throughout the whole event so far. He might end up scoring a slow 40-ball 50 to save his reputation but sit won't matter in the end.

There is no comparison between these 2. 1 player still has 5-6 years of cricket left and the other one is on the verge of retirement.
 
Kohli has clearly overstayed his welcome and is a burden in India now. Especially in tests and t20is where India Hoare swimming in ocean of talent.
He should have sensed it and quietly left. He can still statpad at Chinnsamy
 
BouncerGuy said:
Kohli is having an even worse tournament than Babar had. Failed throughout the whole event so far. He might end up scoring a slow 40-ball 50 to save his reputation but sit won't matter in the end.

There is no comparison between these 2. 1 player still has 5-6 years of cricket left and the other one is on the verge of retirement.
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Babar single handedly lost his team the game against Usa with his 43 ball 44, kohli hasn't lost us a match yet
 
BouncerGuy said:
This shows that babar is a one man army while Kohli has the backup that is why India is ahead in cricket.
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T20s have only 120 balls. Scoring a 40(40) is worse than scoring 0(3) because you have wasted a third of the innings and the remaining batsmen have very few balls left and are under increased pressure
 
Statpadder Inc said:
T20s have only 120 balls. Scoring a 40(40) is worse than scoring 0(3) because you have wasted a third of the innings and the remaining batsmen have very few balls left and are under increased pressure
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We know what the renaming players of the Pakistan team are capable of. They were even worse than him.
 
BouncerGuy said:
This shows that babar is a one man army while Kohli has the backup that is why India is ahead in cricket.
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Kohli was as one man army that you can imagine during his golden phase till 2019. But now yes he has built a team around his own image of no holds barred super aggro cricket.

Rohit is just polishing on top of it.
 
Babar so far has never had a tournament as bad as Kohli's this year. Babars worst tournament crossed 120 runs, Kohlis on 70 odd after 7 games...
 
Hitman said:
No disrespect, but I'm seriously starting to think your account has been hacked. This is not the real you.
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Yeah I thought so .why bcoz both kohli,Shastri said they will leave after t20wc in months advance.Infact that was said like one of the reasons for the disaster as no one was there to handle the affairs and stay in present at that time.No one was there to take responsibility and accountability for the results.
 
Sir Alex said:
Kohli was as one man army that you can imagine during his golden phase till 2019. But now yes he has built a team around his own image of no holds barred super aggro cricket.

Rohit is just polishing on top of it.
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How kohli was a man army when he had Rohit, Sachin, Dhawan, yuvraj, Raina, Dhoni-type guys during his whole career.

Name a few of their caliber in case of babar??
 
These immature Babar fans comes out of their cave after Kohli's failures. Yes Kohli's been failing and it's his first failure in any icc tournament he played. But there are certain reasons behind it. Till the 2022 World Cup Kohli has played his natural game and he's been quite successful winning two player of the tournament awards. But this time the management has asked him to go from the ball one, no matter what the situation is. If you go from ball 1 there are high chances of getting out and as the pitches are not that suitable for scoring runs at will, he's got out cheaply trying to hit every ball. My question is will Babar Azam ever dare to play like this for the team out of his comfort zone? Already played 3 T20 World Cups without a single MoTM. 93 and 98 are his sr in last two world cups. And their audacity to call the greatest T20I batsman a choker and liability when he has the highest avg in icc T20i knockout.

2012- Kohli scored almost 30% of the teams' total runs.

2014- 319 runs with MoTM in Semi final and would have won the final too if not for Yuvraj's 11(21). moTT.

2016- 273 runs and second highest was 86 runs and he has scored 3 more runs than the second highest scorer in semi final alone. Once again let down by others. MoTT.

2021- he failed in one inning and India failed to qualify.

2022- highest run scorer and his average was more than someone's SR.

7 man of the matches, most by any. 7 MoTMs by a liability batsman and player with 0 MoTM is the best batsman 😭🤣.

First ask your idol to play for the team and then cry about Kohli's failure.

Lost to Zim, USA, Afghanistan, qualified because someone else choked and the audacity.
 
iPakistani said:
Babar so far has never had a tournament as bad as Kohli's this year. Babars worst tournament crossed 120 runs, Kohlis on 70 odd after 7 games...
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He also has never had a tournament as good as kohli. O motms in wc, pathetically low SR too. He's been consistently poor
 
Even after these failures, I'll pick Kohli over Babar in a T20 side any day.

Though Kohli is at the end of his limited overs career and Babar easily a few more years to go
 
When the going gets tough... Babar Azam chokes. Weak player and one of the worst captains Pakistan has ever had.

If we are to make a combined XI of the current Ind and Pak players, no Pak player is good enough to make the team.

We have a pathetic team, and even worse, we insist on persisting with them... the depths of mediocrity we've fallen to is unreal..
 
Kohli has 2 world cups to his name and a MOTM match winning innings in the World Cup Final.

Babar should retire a very meak timid player
 
oatmeal said:
Even after these failures, I'll pick Kohli over Babar in a T20 side any day.

Though Kohli is at the end of his limited overs career and Babar easily a few more years to go
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There is no comparison between Babar and Kohli ... Anyone who makes this comparison is delusional...

I remember fans used to compare Kohli with Ahmed Shehzad and Umar Akmal..

Virat Kohli is a modern day great

Babar Azam is a mediocre batsman at best (overhyped by Pakistan fans), Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shahzad are tried and tested failures...
 
usman.sandhu said:
There is no comparison between Babar and Kohli ... Anyone who makes this comparison is delusional...

I remember fans used to compare Kohli with Ahmed Shehzad and Umar Akmal..

Virat Kohli is a modern day great

Babar Azam is a mediocre batsman at best (overhyped by Pakistan fans), Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shahzad are tried and tested failures...
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A certain intellectual here was claiming that Babar is the greatest T20 batsman in history, and that Rohit isn't good enough to tie Babar's shoe laces in the T20 format 😆 :ROFLMAO:
 
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