jnaveen1980
ODI Captain
- Joined
- Mar 19, 2016
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If this Pant had played 2019 world cup India would have been in the finals. They didn't give him chance until that point.
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Problem was Dhoni and Kohli's muddled approach. He was ready to.give chances after chances to the likes of Karthik, Rayudu, Shankar, Jadhav etc but not Pant.If this Pant had played 2019 world cup India would have been in the finals. They didn't give him chance until that point.
Looks like this will be a good contest for the next two years or so
In test matches Pant has played three memorable match winning innings.Defonitely but i rate pant slightly higher in odis and t20s in tests id go with rizwan
Also, for all the talks of us wining WC under Dhoni in 2011, he was also directly responsible for us not winning the next 2 WCs which we could have won with all the talent at our disposal.
In test matches Pant has played three memorable match winning innings.
Something that many greats cannot claim to do in their entire career.
But hes keeping is average at best
But hes keeping is average at best
But hes keeping is average at best
The fact that some people were adamant that Rizwan is a better WK batsman or a better batsman in LOIs shows how clueless and cricket-ignorant our fans are.
Rizwan is a very good WK batsman but Pant is several notches above him in all formats. He is GOAT material.
He has been quite brilliant since Aus series as a keeper. Pulled off some brilliant stumpings and catches in the Eng series. Not to mention countless difficult takes.
I am not yet convinced by Rizwan's LOI's credentials.
Of course hes going to take stumping i didnt say he wouldn't.your other keeper is a proper keeper and twice the keeper pant is
Nah, Saha WAS twice the keeper, but the improvement Pant has shown, the stunning stumpings and catches he has taken, now the gap is not that wide any more
Saha should be compared to rizwan in keeping and not pant even if pant has improved.
Foakes is the best wicket keeper in the world. He wont get a game in LOIs for England. As long as your keeping is good enough, it's OK. Pant's batting is more valuable than Saha's keeping.
Why would you mention foakes in Lols but not tests ?.
And i agree than pants batting is more valuable than saha keeping but is it more valuable than rizwans runs and keeping in tests.
Why would you mention foakes in Lols but not tests ?.
And i agree than pants batting is more valuable than saha keeping but is it more valuable than rizwans runs and keeping in tests.
I dont know why people keep ignoring that Pant has improved his keeping so much, he has been flawless in all recent match. They keep pretending he is still a below average keeper. In all recent series he out kept the regular keepers from the other side
He may have improved am not saying he hasnt but he stil is no were in terms of keeping compared to saha and rizwan
I'm guessing you haven't watched any recent Indian games. I know Sarf is a bad fielder and that's probably the reason but Rizwan's keeping wasn't considered mandatory when both he and Sarf played. At this level the difference is incremental. Pakistan team thought Sarf's batting was more critical than Rizwan's keeping. So the argument regarding Pant can die a miserable death now. Pant has been outstanding in the recent games and he will only improve.
Didnt pant mess up a straighforward run out the other day costing his team the win?
Another duck for Rizwan today .2 Duck in last 4 inning
and 2 high score match winning scores aswell.
When and where?![]()
While I agree this bowling attack is a joke, I find it funny how Indians celebrated their 2018 LO series wins over South Africa. Both sets of fans are the most immature in the world without a doubt.Against 3rd string south Africa bowling attack lol
Yesterday vs RR
Tom Curran to Morris, 1 run
Unadkat slips and it seems like it's an unfortunate end, but the script has completely flipped! Pant doesn't gather the ball. Short of a length ball heaved off the inside edge to deep midwicket. Unadkat was sent back trying to go for the second, slipped, fell and made a despairing dive. It was a straightforward throw to Pant who was over-eager and has broken the stumps without gathering the ball
Rizwan is a good player but the problem with this comparison is that he has been compared with the great Rishabh Pant which is unfair on the crisis man. There are enough quality test wicket keepers like Dhoni, Watling, Prior, Haddin etc but you can't compare him with the great Rishabh Pant especially after his lifetime performance in Australia which was followed by another brilliant series Vs England.
The performance in Australia was already too good to moan for the ages but he followed up with splendid performance in England in Tests and ODI series and has put himself in the category where we can call him "the great Rishabh Pant" now.
No one is fit to tie Pant's showlaces at this point. The way things are going, he has already surpassed most, if not all the past greats, already. He has two great innings and if he were to retire today, he would be remembered as the greatest keeper bat everrrrr.
Whereas, Rizwan, well he being 28 years old, his stats are irrelevant. Doesnt matter his average or clutch innings or anything else, he is going to be Watling level ... and even that is pushing it. I would think he is probably Mongia level. Yes that makes sense now. Its all coming to me. I am enlightened.
The great Pant may have smashed apart Time Paine's arrogance of no team being capable of breaching the fortress, GABBA, early this year in Australia but in the process, it seems he has also ripped apart plenty of delusions and bitterness that the usual suspect had ascribed to here in India only.
The challenge now is how to deal with these continuous humiliations twice every day.
Didnt pant mess up a straighforward run out the other day costing his team the win?
Against 3rd string south Africa bowling attack lol
That didn't cost the win, it was Unadkat who was escaped..
Why do you guys downgrading a knock if it's against weakened bowling? Still he has to score runs nah?
The great Pant may have smashed apart Time Paine's arrogance of no team being capable of breaching the fortress, GABBA, early this year in Australia but in the process, it seems he has also ripped apart plenty of delusions and bitterness that the usual suspect had ascribed to here in India only.
The challenge now is how to deal with these continuous humiliations twice every day.
Against 3rd string south Africa bowling attack lol
The word "great" has been used too loosely by some fans these days that it is losing its meaning as fast as some fans change their favorite teams or players.)
As far as your post is concerned [MENTION=143570]NoBallZombie[/MENTION]'s post in this thread is a perfect answer to that.![]()
LOL?
So wait, what do you want?
If a guy doesn't perform, you will whine, if a guy performs you will still whine.
Than what should they do? Pack their bags?
You cry about second string team, do you know the only good teams in cricket are England, NZ, India and Australia. We dont even play India. So we are left with 3. Even Australia doesn't really play its full squad agianst us.
Chalo, now we have two teams in international criket that are actually good and play against us with a good squad.
Now how is this Pakistan's fault? If out of 10 teams, Pakistan faces 8 bad teams, than what is Pakistan suppose to do? What are the players suppose to do
You are just critisizng for the sake of critisizing. You will find any reason to absh a player you dislike
Interesting stat on Rishabh Pant is that he already has 75 catches in just 20 tests.
He has a good 12+ years of cricket ahead of him. If he keeps this up, will end up with a few bags full of catches.
LOL?
So wait, what do you want?
If a guy doesn't perform, you will whine, if a guy performs you will still whine.
Than what should they do? Pack their bags?
You cry about second string team, do you know the only good teams in cricket are England, NZ, India and Australia. We dont even play India. So we are left with 3. Even Australia doesn't really play its full squad agianst us.
Chalo, now we have two teams in international criket that are actually good and play against us with a good squad.
Now how is this Pakistan's fault? If out of 10 teams, Pakistan faces 8 bad teams, than what is Pakistan suppose to do? What are the players suppose to do
You are just critisizng for the sake of critisizing. You will find any reason to absh a player you dislike
Best Batsmen: Pant
Best Gloveman: Rizwan
Greatest wicket keeper of all time: Rohail Nazir.
If soms people were really that cricket fans like they pretended to be, they woild know knocks like the Gabba are life time knocks and test fans, particularly Indian fans, have been waiting since history of cricket
But of course these people pretend to be test fans only to put down IPL and underplay all time great knocks in test cricket which has never happened in Indian history
Never can never ever be anything greater for an Indian test fan than a series win in overseas tests in Australia. Now imagine an unbeaten 4th innings in a record chase. Which Indian test cricket fan will keep downplaying such an innings? Particialrly someone who hates t20s and always praises test?
If soms people were really that cricket fans like they pretended to be, they woild know knocks like the Gabba are life time knocks and test fans, particularly Indian fans, have been waiting since history of cricket
But of course these people pretend to be test fans only to put down IPL and underplay all time great knocks in test cricket which has never happened in Indian history
Never can never ever be anything greater for an Indian test fan than a series win in overseas tests in Australia. Now imagine an unbeaten 4th innings in a record chase. Which Indian test cricket fan will keep downplaying such an innings? Particialrly someone who hates t20s and always praises test?
No one said south African attack of Rabada and nortje is bad. But when the bowling attack is Magala?
Also the hypocrisy and irony is amusing, considering your attempts to constantly put down kohl's achievements by all sorts of filters and mental gymnastics
Don't be surprised. He has a habit of putting words in people's mouth and acting innocent.when did i insult kohli?
Also, for all the talks of us wining WC under Dhoni in 2011, he was also directly responsible for us not winning the next 2 WCs which we could have won with all the talent at our disposal.
Rishabh's test stats are misleading. He hasn't played enough home games where he would have easily averaged 55-60 with bat. Watch him out for next 10 years. He will produce below stats:-
Home average - 56
Away average - 43
Overall:- 46( because of more away games)
What do you think Rizwan will produce ?
He is good but hard to say as of now as he needs to play more in subcontinent. Brilliant keeper though. Scores runs in crisis like Watling.