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The best bowling attack in the world?

NZ is underrated here. They have the 3rd best pace attack with two fast bowlers ranked in the top 10.
 
FreePalestine said:
1 & 2 - South Africa, Australia
3 - Pak
4 - Eng
5 - WI, SL & NZ
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on current form

1) Aus
2) Saf
3) Eng / Pak (Eng in England, Pak every where else, though take away ajmal/ rehman combo we go near the bottom of this list because our fast bowling is weak)
4) NZ
5) The rest.
 
Buffet said:
NZ is underrated here. They have the 3rd best pace attack with two fast bowlers ranked in the top 10.
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they are very good in NZ overcast conditions. didnt really look that impressive in bangladesh. NZ need a good spinner.
 
Are we talking about Tests, or both?

Because PAK loses a lot of points in Tests.
 
India and SL by landslide. Their combined attacks are simply stunning.
 
1)Australia
2)SOuth Africa
3)England
4)Pakistan
5)NZ/India
6)Sri Lanka

Then the rest..
 
ODIs - Pak is best

Tests - Pak is 2nd/3rd, 1st being SA.
 
1. Australia
2. South Africa
3. Pakistan
4. England
5. New Zealand
6. Sri Lanka
7. Zimbabwe
8. Bangladesh
 
Lot of qualifiers here.

Best attack cumulative.
Best attack at home.
Best attack away.
Best attack for flat tracks.
Best attack for spin tracks
Best attack for bouncy wickets
Best attack for green tops
etc.

and so on. It is not easy to judge the best attack in the world without specifying the necessary qualifiers. Under some of these conditions, I can see India finishing in the lower third.
 
Buffet said:
NZ is underrated here. They have the 3rd best pace attack with two fast bowlers ranked in the top 10.
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They are good at home. Send them to India, and they will struggle to get 20 Indian wickets just like India struggled there.
 
IndianWillow said:
They are good at home. Send them to India, and they will struggle to get 20 Indian wickets just like India struggled there.
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Collectively - NZ did better than WI in India when they toured India last time as far as bowlers are concerned. They should not be bracketed with WI in my opinion.

Anyway, let's see how well Southee and Co. do in the next 3-4 years. They lack a spinner though. Also, there is no good reason to rate Eng attack higher right now. Swann is gone. I do want to see how well they now when playing outside of Eng. he was a huge factor for them.
 
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Australia are clearly ahead, as long as Mitch keeps his right head on and Harris stays fit.

I wouldn't like to say what the England attack is like now because I don't know who will get picked, though Broad and our hobbit seem nailed on.
 
Buffet said:
Even at home , they will be some where around 3-4.
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Yeah, at the moment. If Ashwin and Ojha are in form, it is very difficult to beat India in India. India has the best home W/L for the past five years.
 
Our pace attack is very average and Australia, South Africa and New Zealand are way ahead.

On paper, England is as well but they are collectively poor at the moment.

In terms of spin, we are still top.
 
Best attack in the world?

Mamoon said:
Our pace attack is very average and Australia, South Africa and New Zealand are way ahead.

On paper, England is as well but they are collectively poor at the moment.

In terms of spin, we are still top.
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All of their spinners suck and lyon usually gets gifted wickets. Sort of like indian bowlers who just wait for a batsman to make mistake.
Our pace attack is decent and still ahead of anyone else in the SC not to mention our spin is as strong as any of the others' pace

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The NZ attack is ahead of ours, and England's for the matter. Aus/SA clearly have the best atm. It's very hard to separate the two. The current series may decide the matter.

NZ are third best. Southee/Boult are very good opening pair, and are well supported by Wagner. The spin department is clearly an issue, however.

I would rate ours as 4th atm. The only proven Test seamer we have atm is Junaid. While he does have promise, Junaid does need to start converting that potential to performance. If it wasn't for Ajmal, I would tie us with England. And Ajmal is in steady decline in the Test front.

England have just lost Swann, Anderson is woefully out of form, and the bench isn't showing much promise. Only Barbie is a threat atm.
 
Haz95 said:
All of their spinners suck and lyon usually gets gifted wickets. Sort of like indian bowlers who just wait for a batsman to make mistake.
Our pace attack is decent and still ahead of anyone else in the SC not to mention our spin is as strong as any of the others' pace

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Being the best pace attack in the sub continent at the moment is like being the tallest dwarf :nehra
 
Best attack in the world?

Mamoon said:
Being the best pace attack in the sub continent at the moment is like being the tallest dwarf :nehra
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Lol fair enough but our spin attack makes us giants


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blackanhyellow said:
they are very good in NZ overcast conditions. didnt really look that impressive in bangladesh. NZ need a good spinner.
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They won us a test in Sri Lanka and Tim Southee wasn't even in Bangladesh. See how you go without Junaid Khan.
 
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Pakistan above NZ :facepalm:

The Pakistan attack is over rated, heavily reliant on one bowler who is only good in favorable conditions.
 
1. India
2. Bangladesh
3. Sri Lanka
4. West Indies
5. New Zealand
6. England
7. Pakistan
8. South Africa
9. Australia
 
NZcricketfan said:
They won us a test in Sri Lanka and Tim Southee wasn't even in Bangladesh. See how you go without Junaid Khan.
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Southee
Boult
Wagner
Neesham
Anderson
Sodhi

vs

Irfan
Junaid
Talha
Gul
Ajmal
Rehman
Hafeez

IMO these attacks are very close, New Zealand has a much better pace attack while Pak has a much better spin attack.

On rank turners Pak wins, in crazy overcast conditions New Zealand wins.

However, Pak would perform better in overcast conditions than NZ would on turners/ roads.

Time will tell though I guess.
 
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Sorry but what have Irfan and Talha done to be even ranked with Boult and Southee so early?

Irfan isn't even fit enough to play Test cricket, I'll be surprised if Pakistan choose him again for Test cricket.

As for Talha it's too early to say anything on him. Pakistan's attack becomes really easy to negotiate once you take the spinners out of the equation the sad truth is Pakistan have become too reliant on their spinners.

A spin dominant attack may win you games in the SC but it won't win you many (if any) in Aus, SA or England.
 
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Aman said:
Pakistan above NZ :facepalm:

The Pakistan attack is over rated, heavily reliant on one bowler who is only good in favorable conditions.
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Didn't you guys lose to Bangladesh?:))

Aman said:
Junaid isn't even in the same league as Southee and Boult.
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Looks like the troll mode is on after winning the home series against a pathetic Indian team.

Southee averages 31 in tests and ODIs. Boult averages 48 in ODIs and 27 in tests. That too after playing in supporting NZ wickets mostly.

Junaid averages 22 in ODIs and 29 in tests played on flat tracks. You're right, he's leagues above.
 
blackanhyellow said:
Southee
Boult
Wagner
Neesham
Anderson
Sodhi

vs

Irfan
Junaid
Talha
Gul
Ajmal
Rehman
Hafeez

IMO these attacks are very close, New Zealand has a much better pace attack while Pak has a much better spin attack.

On rank turners Pak wins, in crazy overcast conditions New Zealand wins.

However, Pak would perform better in overcast conditions than NZ would on turners/ roads.

Time will tell though I guess.
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Time and time again NZ have been our punching bags both in NZ and ICC events. Wasim, Waqar, Zahid, Akhtar have all toyed with them over and over again. Hell, even Sami has destroyed them in their backyard.
 
Aman said:
We didn't lose a single Test to Bangladesh :facepalm:
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The way to put it you didn't win a single Test in Bangladesh because you were not able to take 20 wickets, mainly because you don't have a decent spinner.
 
Silly Point said:
Time and time again NZ have been our punching bags both in NZ and ICC events. Wasim, Waqar, Zahid, Akhtar have all toyed with them over and over again. Hell, even Sami has destroyed them in their backyard.
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Your point is completely irrelevant.

And have you forgotten how Ross Taylor ended Akhtar's career in the previous WC?
 
The New Zealand pace attack is excellent while their spin attack is poor.
The Pakistani pace attack is decent while their spin attack is excellent.

They are quite close and it depends on the conditions.
 
blackanhyellow said:
uhh no, I think that was kamran akmal...
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Akhtar's Last Over in International cricket(To Ross Taylor):

46.1
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, FOUR, poor delivery to begin with, swinging wide full toss way outside off stump, he capitalises, and slashes it over point and into the boundary

46.2
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, SIX, Taylor has made Pakistan pay dearly, another full toss, this time on the pads, and Ross swings it powerfully, flat and quick, over deep square leg

46.3
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, SIX, 141.1 kph high full toss, it's going horribly wrong for Shoaib, Taylor swivelled and hammered it miles over the deep midwicket boundary

46.4
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, 1 wide, 109 kph slower one but miles outside the off stump, more woes for Shoaib, will this over ever end for him?

46.4
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, no run, this was in the slot for Taylor, bouncing from a length, and he went for the big hit over deep midwicket again, but missed this time

46.5
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, FOUR, and another one, this time he waited in the crease for this length ball to come on comfortably wide outside off stump, and carved it over cover, no chance for sweeper cover

46.6
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, 1 wide, nightmare this is for Shoaib, this one is fired wide down the leg side

46.6
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, SIX, Rosco is back in style, brings up his century on his birthday, with a savage pull over deep midwicket for six, he was waiting for that shortish one on the stumps, and when it arrived, he was ready and raises his bat in celebration, the dressing room stands up and applauds
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No wonder he retired after this.
 
Aman said:
Sorry but what have Irfan and Talha done to be even ranked with Boult and Southee so early?

Irfan isn't even fit enough to play Test cricket, I'll be surprised if Pakistan choose him again for Test cricket.

As for Talha it's too early to say anything on him. Pakistan's attack becomes really easy to negotiate once you take the spinners out of the equation the sad truth is Pakistan have become too reliant on their spinners.

A spin dominant attack may win you games in the SC but it won't win you many (if any) in Aus, SA or England.
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Last I recall, Pak won the test series last time Pak toured NZ. Back then we didnt have the strongest pace attack either but they still took wickets, and our spinners took some as well. Didnt even have ajmal at that time.

We will see how NZ does when they tour UAE next.

England failed.

SA went from being invincible to losing a test match.

BTW how many test matches has NZ won in England, Aus, and SA recently that you are using that argument against me???
 
Statistics375 said:
Akhtar's Last Over in International cricket(To Ross Taylor):




No wonder he retired after this.
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13.1
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, no run, targets the stumps with a length delivery shaping in off the seam, it is turned with the angle on the leg side

13.2
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, FOUR, Ross gets a birthday gift, it's the Kamran moment, Shoaib got the edge with a perfect delivery that zipped away just a shade, the ball flew between younis and Kamran, who initially appeared to go for it, and then did the keeper's version of shouldering arms, stood stone still, as a bemused Younis looked on

13.3
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, FOUR, and Ross makes Pakistan pay with his favourite cut shot that bounces high over point and gives no chance to third man as well

13.4
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, no run, oh I don't believe this, two birthday gifts is too much, from the same man too, Shoaib has Ross pushing at a one that held its line,and the healthy edge goes ever so slowly to Kamran who is in good position to take it, gets gloves on it, and clangs it, Shoaib can't do anything about it, boy is he distraught

13.5
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, no run, pushed away to extra cover off the front foot

13.6
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, no run, defended back to the bowler


This was when Taylor had made 0 runs and 8 runs respectively, two straight forward catches dropped by kamran in the same over.

Akhter did nothing wrong, he basically got Taylor out twice before he got hit for runs.

Like seriously they were both easy catches go on youtube and search for them, you will facepalm yourself.
 
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We won 1 Test in Aus and one in SL when we were still developing. This team has the potential to do a lot more over the years, I'm unsure what will happen to Pakistan's Test cricket once Ajmal, Misbah and Younis retire.
 
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Statistics375 said:
Your point is completely irrelevant.

And have you forgotten how Ross Taylor ended Akhtar's career in the previous WC?
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Akhtar had Taylor twice if it wasn't for Kamran Akmal.

Akhtar's best ODI figures of 6/16 and best test figures 6/11 both came against NZ.

Averages 5.23 in tests against them :)) Played two tests vs them and took 17 wickets for 89 with three 5-wicket hauls.

Overall, Pakistan and NZ have played 50 tests with each other with Pakistan winning 23 and NZ winning 7 :akhtar Pakistan bowlers average 27 against NZ. They average 35 against us with the ball.

ODI record is 51/35 in our favor.

If there is one team we have always dominated, it's NZ.
 
Aman said:
We won 1 Test in Aus and one in SL when we were still developing. This team has the potential to do a lot more over the years, I'm unsure what will happen to Pakistan's Test cricket once Ajmal, Misbah and Younis retire.
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Last time we toured NZ, Rehman was the man of the match. We won the test series with our B bowling attack of Gul, Tanvir Ahmed, Wahab and Rehman :))
 
Silly Point said:
Last time we toured NZ, Rehman was the man of the match. We won the test series with our B bowling attack of Gul, Tanvir Ahmed, Wahab and Rehman :))
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Back then we were rubbish, we've improved significantly since then.
 
Aman said:
Back then we were rubbish, we've improved significantly since then.
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I am trying to remember when were you NOT rubbish in last many Pak tours to NZ.

As far as your point about Pak attack without Junaid is concerned, it is let say sillly. What is OZ attack without Johnson, SA attack without Steyn, Eng attack without Anderson? Pak is a country that kept producing bowlers after Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib, Asif, Amir. If not Junaid, someone else would Step up.
 
CricVet said:
I am trying to remember when were you NOT rubbish in last many Pak tours to NZ.

As far as your point about Pak attack without Junaid is concerned, it is let say sillly. What is OZ attack without Johnson, SA attack without Steyn, Eng attack without Anderson? Pak is a country that kept producing bowlers after Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib, Asif, Amir. If not Junaid, someone else would Step up.
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What point about Junaid?.. I was talking about Ajmal.
 
CricVet said:
I am trying to remember when were you NOT rubbish in last many Pak tours to NZ.

As far as your point about Pak attack without Junaid is concerned, it is let say sillly. What is OZ attack without Johnson, SA attack without Steyn, Eng attack without Anderson? Pak is a country that kept producing bowlers after Wasim, Waqar, Shoaib, Asif, Amir. If not Junaid, someone else would Step up.
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Ryan Harris and Siddle are far better bowlers than Junaid, Talha and Bhatti.

I don't get the fuss about Pakistan's Test pace attack. Junaid has done nothing apart from performing vs Sri Lanka and still his average is continuously rising. It was 25 not long ago and now it touching 30.

Australia minus Johnson and South Africa minus Steyn are still miles better pace attacks than ours.

Junaid is just decent, Talha is a rookie and Bhatti is a nothing bowler.

Gone are the days where we would produce top class pacers. Too many trundlers coming up.

Junaid isn't a spearhead. He is a first change bowler in the mould of Gul who has become the star because he's the only credible bowler.
 
Justcrazy said:
Pakistan has best all round attack , because they have good spin option also.
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Nope, Pakistan's pacers are very green.

SA and Australia minus a quality spinner still have a better all round attack.
 
People really underate the Kiwis. Very good pace attack.
 
Mamoon said:
Ryan Harris and Siddle are far better bowlers than Junaid, Talha and Bhatti.

I don't get the fuss about Pakistan's Test pace attack. Junaid has done nothing apart from performing vs Sri Lanka and still his average is continuously rising. It was 25 not long ago and now it touching 30.

Australia minus Johnson and South Africa minus Steyn are still miles better pace attacks than ours.

Junaid is just decent, Talha is a rookie and Bhatti is a nothing bowler.

Gone are the days where we would produce top class pacers. Too many trundlers coming up.

Junaid isn't a spearhead. He is a first change bowler in the mould of Gul who has become the star because he's the only credible bowler.
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you are the guy who called Bhavin Kumar a better bowler than Junaid. Let me take you seriously for a bit.
If SA is miles better than Pak without Steyn, why the heck they got beaten black and blue by AU with steyn?
So Bhatti is a nothing bowler after how many tests and ODIs experience?
You will take Ryan Harris on his last legs and legend Peter Siddle, who averages same as Junaid, Over Juanid. Interesting. Enough time given to a troll.
 
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Mamoon said:
Ryan Harris and Siddle are far better bowlers than Junaid, Talha and Bhatti.

I don't get the fuss about Pakistan's Test pace attack. Junaid has done nothing apart from performing vs Sri Lanka and still his average is continuously rising. It was 25 not long ago and now it touching 30.

Australia minus Johnson and South Africa minus Steyn are still miles better pace attacks than ours.

Junaid is just decent, Talha is a rookie and Bhatti is a nothing bowler.

Gone are the days where we would produce top class pacers. Too many trundlers coming up.

Junaid isn't a spearhead. He is a first change bowler in the mould of Gul who has become the star because he's the only credible bowler.
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You are the biggest wrist slitting Pakstani fan. If you really are one. Why don't you follow another team if everything with our team is below your wrist slitting standards.
 
CricVet said:
you are the guy who called Bhavin Kumar a better bowler than Junaid. Let me take you seriously for a bit.
If SA is miles better than Pak without Steyn, why the heck they got beaten black and blue by AU with steyn?
So Bhatti is a nothing bowler after how many tests and ODIs experience?
You will take Ryan Harris on his last legs and legend Peter Siddle, who averages same as Junaid, Over Juanid. Interesting. Enough time given to a troll.
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Exactly.
This guy just can't be a Pakistani. If he is one, he's not right in the head.
 
Silly Point said:
Exactly.
This guy just can't be a Pakistani. If he is one, he's not right in the head.
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We got a big unofficial Indian population here. It is understandable. They do not have single unbiased cricket website. It is a perfect place to troll.
 
Electron said:
1)Australia
2)SOuth Africa
3)England
4)Pakistan
5)NZ/India
6)Sri Lanka

Then the rest..
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Pretty much this but i think on spinning tracks Pakistan is bettar than England. Its neck and neck between Pakistan and England for the 3rd spot.

ODIs Pakistan is best.
 
atm 1)Australia
2) South Africa
3)Nz/Pak/Eng one could be ahead of the other depending on conditions
4) India/ Windies
5) SL and Bangla
 
Silly Point said:
Akhtar had Taylor twice if it wasn't for Kamran Akmal.

Akhtar's best ODI figures of 6/16 and best test figures 6/11 both came against NZ.

Averages 5.23 in tests against them :)) Played two tests vs them and took 17 wickets for 89 with three 5-wicket hauls.

Overall, Pakistan and NZ have played 50 tests with each other with Pakistan winning 23 and NZ winning 7 :akhtar Pakistan bowlers average 27 against NZ. They average 35 against us with the ball.

ODI record is 51/35 in our favor.

If there is one team we have always dominated, it's NZ.
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Did he get him out?

No he did not, and Ross Taylor slaughtered him afterwards and ended his career.

blackanhyellow said:
13.2
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, FOUR, Ross gets a birthday gift, it's the Kamran moment, Shoaib got the edge with a perfect delivery that zipped away just a shade, the ball flew between younis and Kamran, who initially appeared to go for it, and then did the keeper's version of shouldering arms, stood stone still, as a bemused Younis looked on

13.4
Shoaib Akhtar to Taylor, no run, oh I don't believe this, two birthday gifts is too much, from the same man too, Shoaib has Ross pushing at a one that held its line,and the healthy edge goes ever so slowly to Kamran who is in good position to take it, gets gloves on it, and clangs it, Shoaib can't do anything about it, boy is he distraught



This was when Taylor had made 0 runs and 8 runs respectively, two straight forward catches dropped by kamran in the same over.

Akhter did nothing wrong, he basically got Taylor out twice before he got hit for runs.

Like seriously they were both easy catches go on youtube and search for them, you will facepalm yourself.
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Akhtar was destroyed afterwards.

And Ross Taylor ended his career by that slaughter in the last over, those 2 dropped chances mean nothing now.
 
Statistics375 said:
Did he get him out?

No he did not, and Ross Taylor slaughtered him afterwards and ended his career.



Akhtar was destroyed afterwards.

And Ross Taylor ended his career by that slaughter in the last over, those 2 dropped chances mean nothing now.
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Are we talking about the same player who has a bowling average of 5.23 against NZ?
 
ddss said:
Are we talking about the same player who has a bowling average of 5.23 against NZ?
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The guy sounds to have a personal vendetta against the only Pakistani cricketer who retired gracefully. He was going to retire after the world cup anyway. Ross Taylor could only dream to be a legend like Akhtar, let alone forcing him to retire.
 
Ross Taylor did not end the career of Shoaib Akhtar nor did Saeed Ajmal did for Sachin.

Taking the wicket of aging stars or smashing aging bowlers mean nothing.

If Ambrose gets thrashed in his final stages, does it mean the batsman who thrashed him ended his career?

Hell no.

Dunno why "he ended his career" kind of discussions pop up here.

Makes no sense.
 
Pakistan's bowling is underrated. Our Pace attack is better than most + our spin attack makes us the best. NO other team has 3 quality spinners playing alongside 3 good pacers. Once Amir is back, we may have ourselves a fearsome bowling attack. At the moment, I rate Pakistan's bowling higher than South Africa, simply because SA lack quality spin...

atm I would go (criteria is, bowling attack suits all conditions and is well balanced)

1.)Pakistan
2.)Australia
3.)South Africa
4.)New Zealand
5.)England
6.)West Indies
7.)India
8.)Sri Lanka
9.)Bangladesh
10.)Zimbabwe
 
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sensible-indian-fan said:
So Mamoon is not a pak fan.

Again we start this tirade?
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Mamoon is more of a Ozzie type fan. We Ozzies tend to downrate our players because we are looking for flaws, particularly in comparison to the team we used to have. We are very difficult to please. It takes a lot for a player to win us over. On the other hand Pak fans are exuberantly optimistic. When they have a bloke that takes fifer in a match he's the best thing since sliced bread and their team is unbeatable. Then he fails the next and he's due for the rubbish heap and the team is shyte and heads must roll. Then another bloke takes fifer in another match and all is well with the world again. Just look at hussain's post just above mine :D
 
OZGOD said:
Mamoon is more of a Ozzie type fan. We Ozzies tend to downrate our players because we are looking for flaws, particularly in comparison to the team we used to have. We are very difficult to please. It takes a lot for a player to win us over. On the other hand Pak fans are exuberantly optimistic. When they have a bloke that takes fifer in a match he's the best thing since sliced bread and their team is unbeatable. Then he fails the next and he's due for the rubbish heap and the team is shyte and heads must roll. Then another bloke takes fifer in another match and all is well with the world again. Just look at hussain's post just above mine :D
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Same with India....
 
My opinion - Pak's attack is too inconsistent. There's just one bowler in there that I would say is world class and that is Ajmal. Junaid is hit or miss and the others are a revolving door of players. It's hard to judge because you've rotated so many players in and out of your attack. Look at the stats for players who have played for Pakistan in Tests in the last year alone. Other than Ajmal nobody else really stands out. Rehman maybe.

But this is PakPassion so obviously a lot of homeboy support, and fair enough :D
 

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As someone mentioned above about inconsistency, I can buy that point. But the fact is, when in general Pak as a whole not been inconsistent? That is why people like to watch Pak cricket.
 
Aus with mitchell Johnson in the team has the best bowl attacking for a bouncy and fast pitch....
 
OZGOD said:
Mamoon is more of a Ozzie type fan. We Ozzies tend to downrate our players because we are looking for flaws, particularly in comparison to the team we used to have. We are very difficult to please. It takes a lot for a player to win us over. On the other hand Pak fans are exuberantly optimistic. When they have a bloke that takes fifer in a match he's the best thing since sliced bread and their team is unbeatable. Then he fails the next and he's due for the rubbish heap and the team is shyte and heads must roll. Then another bloke takes fifer in another match and all is well with the world again. Just look at hussain's post just above mine :D
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Perfectly put.

We Indians are the same too, as Indian willow pointed out.

Too emotional.
 
In ODIS and T20s I really believe that Pak have one of the best in the world. Its very varied for both spin and fast, though it can still improve with a good allroudner.

In Tests its a good attack but not a brilliant one. Pak lack a few top quality fast bowlers, have some good ones with potential but not like the ones we had in the 90s and before that.
Aus,SA and NZ have a better attack right now in that format.
 
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