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It is becoming a farce now with them not getting a chance in the conditions tailored made for them. First Sri Lanka series, then Asia Cup and now this series.

Finger spinners historically have ruled the roost in UAE; be it off-spinners in the form of Ajmal/Dilruwan Perera or slow left armers in the form of Abdur Rehman/Zulfiqar Babar/ Herath. Ever since new setup replaced the previous one, we have mysteriously omitted left arm spin from our bowling attack which cost us dearly against Sri Lanka and in my opinion cost us a win here as well.

Yasir's success here is also based on him bowling like a SLA; quicker through the air at times and targeting stumps with the incoming drift. Last time as well, it was the left arm spin of Zulfiqar that troubled Australians the most. He picked up more wickets than Yasir and it was primarily his wicket to wicket, relentless bowling that worked in Pakistan's favor, bowling the team to victory in both the tests.

Now people might mention that Bilal Asif is a finger spinner so why is there a requirement of a SLA, that too when he picked up wickets in the first innings. Well, in my opinion, Bilal is not really a threatening spinner in these conditions. His action dictates that he bowls with zero drift and doesn't pose any real danger to even left handed batsmen because he doesn't have the skill to challenge the inside edge of the batsman. He'll only come into play if batsmen decide to play loosely outside off-stump and consequently might nick it. Batsmen can easily lineup such bowlers who are one trick ponies only. Australian left handers realised that he didn't really have the ability to bring bowled and LBW dismissals into play so they simply covered the stumps and the line of his off-spinners.


A good old-fashioned SLA will still work far better than the current off-spin option we have. Wicket to wicket with an odd ball spinning past righties and using the drifter/ arm ball as his main weapon of success.


Really at odds with the selection committee/team management here. No idea why the likes of Asghar or Zafar keep getting neglected. Even if you think they are too young to be inducted in the side at this point, well, get an experienced SLA from domestic. I am sure there would be many out there if they cant find a traditional off-spinner. The point is current make up of slow bowling in UAE is not going to be threatening as a whole. Too much expectations from Yasir to deliver with a non-threatening option from the other end.
 
This is very true. Pakistan's success in the UAE was built on spin partnerships and a crucial ingredient was a SLA bowler. Even in dubai in the 2nd innings a part timer like Haris looked threatening. Need to get one in.
 
True. The Ajmal and Rehman/Babar combination was great. The likes of Imad/Nawaz are not suitable for Tests. I think maybe someone like Kashif Bhatti/Raza Hasan/Zafar Gohar/Mohammad Asghar could get a go but they need to do good in domestics.
 
Disagree with you on Bilal Asif, but it will be interesting to see if they add an SLA to the squad for the NZ series (especially as Haris looked decent when he bowled). Both Bhatti and Asghar are in the 'A' team for the ODI series so it's certainly something they are looking at.

They have a choice of experience (Kashif Bhatti, Mohammad Irfan) vs potential (Zafar, Asghar).

Bhatti has a round arm action and his biggest weapons are how much he gets the ball to drop (and as a result deceive batsmen as to the length) and his arm ball. However, he's on the old side and looks overweight. Irfan on the other hand has more of a classical high arm action, and whilst he can get the ball to dip his main asset is how much he gets the ball to drift. He's also has the advantage of height and is a better option with the bat. So from the experienced choices, I would go with Irfan.

Potential wise though, Zafar wins hands down and he has been putting in decent domestic performances this season. Sadly, he doesn't seem to be in the picture at the moment.
 
Interesting. They choose not to select an SLA in the squad for the NZ series, so I assume they expect Haris to make up the overs.

Surprised Asghar wasn't included as he performed well in the unofficial A team test.

Zafar meanwhile continues to knock on the door with excellent domestic performances but is ignored.
 
Mickey and Sarfraz aka Mr Tactician keep clowning around.

Mickey still doesn't understand how to play in UAE.

This one specialist spinner type blunder will cost us the series because NZ have capable spinners like Sodhi who drowned us last time to come out 1-1.
 
Bilal has to go. One of the worst supposed spinners to have represented Pakistan. No drift and dip. No slider. Batsman can easily lineup such one trick ponies and worst of all, has got a poor control.

The final nail in the coffin was his atrocious slog. That failure of such ugly slogs in pressure situations gives the opposition even more belief and gives them the message that you are choking. On that shot alone, he deserves to be dropped.

I hope he has played his last match for Pakistan.


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The constant omission of a SLA is becoming criminal now. A rookie spinner bowls his side to victory and guess what, he is a left arm spinner. I am disturbed with this level of ignorance from the team think tank. There are plethora of quality SLA and I am sure anyone picked out of the lot would be a major upgrade over Bilal 'hack' Asif.
 
We have to hope that Zafar Gohar or Mohammad Asghar have an amazing PSL, because that's how you get selected for test matches these days. If they do have a good psl, maybe they'll get games a year from now.
 
How important is it to have a left-arm front line spinner in UAE

The title says it all, how important is it to have a left armer in the team for UAE tests. I feel that all the visiting teams have got the right approach -- Kiwis have Ajaz, Aussies had Holland, Srilanka had Herath -- all these as their front line spinners, while we resort to the likes of Haris Sohail. Misbah had been very successful with first Abdul Rahman and then Zulfi baba and used them to squeeze the opposition for hours. The question now is, what are the current think tank for Pakistan thinking? Why are they diverging from a winning formula which even the opposition are following to perfection and getting good results from?
 
Curious to know about the rationale behind why a SLA spinner is more threatening than any other kind of spinner on UAE tracks.

I did a quick search of stats for the last 5 years:

-- SLAs in UAE have picked wickets at 34.2 with a SR of 73 including 6 five wicket-hauls.

-- Others have picked wickets at 36.4 at a SR of 68 including 11 five wicket-hauls.

So, statistically I can't see any advantage. And besides the number of left/right handers in the opposition, I can't understand how there's a difference between a SLA and an off-spinner.
 
Curious to know about the rationale behind why a SLA spinner is more threatening than any other kind of spinner on UAE tracks.

I did a quick search of stats for the last 5 years:

-- SLAs in UAE have picked wickets at 34.2 with a SR of 73 including 6 five wicket-hauls.

-- Others have picked wickets at 36.4 at a SR of 68 including 11 five wicket-hauls.

So, statistically I can't see any advantage. And besides the number of left/right handers in the opposition, I can't understand how there's a difference between a SLA and an off-spinner.

The stats are interesting. I am not sure what the technical side of this is, whether they help in building up pressure from one end and people take more wickets from the other? I do remember Misbah using them for holding up one end while Ajmal and later Yasir used to reap the benefits at the other. The Kiwis had Ish as their main spinner but Ajaz ended up getting the glory. He was bowling really good line and length and hardly giving any loose balls, pretty similar to what Abdul Rahman and Zulfi used to do for us.
 
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Zafar Gohar should be in the squad anyway. No idea why he was dropped from ODI's.

He was careless when he was called up for the Test squad otherwise he would have played at least 15 tests by now.
 
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Bit of Shakib in his action along with jump like Zulfiqar Babar. Interesting. :najam
 
Pakistan management has simply messed up test and OD formats , it will take long term plans to recover.
 
Lack of a left arm spinner in Pakistan team - Who's to blame?

Since Herath and Co ran riots against Pak in the test series last year they won 2 nil every one in Pakistan cricket knew the team is desperate for a left arm off spinner yet a year on and after loosing another shock series to NZ we still have the same problem.

Inbetween this, in the recent Asia cup the problem was mentioned again as every other team had a left arm spinner who was vital to their own teams performance on these tracks.

Surely either the captain, coach or Cheif selctor should take blame for this. In these conditions that left arm spinner is vital and to go over a year without one is shocklingly poor.

Also if there is 18 stone , 40 year old left arm spinner in domestic cricket which the coach says isnt fit enough to play international cricket then show him what an unfit 40 old Hearth was doing to opposition teams in Tests in these home conditions. as long as your spinner is putting in match winning performances i dont think anyone has any issues with their weight, age and fitness.
 
Selectors to blame.

Zafar Gowhar
Mohammad Asgar
Raza Hasan
Hasan khan
Mohammad Irfan (sla)
Zohaib khan
Kashif Bhatti
 
Selectors to blame.

Zafar Gowhar
Mohammad Asgar
Raza Hasan
Hasan khan
Mohammad Irfan (sla)
Zohaib khan
Kashif Bhatti

Zafar Gohar or Mohammad Asghar at least one should've been part of our permanent test side by now
 
Zafar Ghohar
Mo Asghar
Raza Hassan

one out of the 3 should be part of all formats especially in Asia.Micky and Sarfraz are being unfair to themselves by not picking a proper offy.
 
Plenty of options available, but they keep selecting pseudo-allrounders like bilal or shadab.

Trashy bowlers.
 
Zafar Gohar and Raza Hassan if they are worked with properly ,can contribute much better with the bat than shadab and Nawaz and Bilal .

As far as bowling alone , Zafar and Raza are much ahead .
 
Inzi has to take a lot of the blame. Their is enough spin talent in domestic cricket and we are wasting time with Bilal. Mickey also has to take the blame . A pro coach shouldn't be accepting this.
 
Inzi has to take a lot of the blame. Their is enough spin talent in domestic cricket and we are wasting time with Bilal. Mickey also has to take the blame . A pro coach shouldn't be accepting this.
I feel Inzi has imposed a lot of decisions on the team. We all know our Inzi. This is the problem when you have a Pakistan legend as a chief selector. Cant argue much against him.
 
I feel Inzi has imposed a lot of decisions on the team. We all know our Inzi. This is the problem when you have a Pakistan legend as a chief selector. Cant argue much against him.

Inzi would be of better use as a batting coach. I don't think he suits CS role at all.

He just seems to pick the team on who he likes and not on the conditions. Not picking a specialist spinner to support Yasir in UAE is pathetic and not selecting back middle order batsmen is illogical.
 
There are many options it's just that Mickey does not understand cricket in the subcontinent.

The fact that Sarfraz doesnt say anything about it shows you that he is a 'yes sir' guy.
 
Why was Haris Sohail under bowled or not bowled at all? That is all on Sarfaraz I am afraid
 
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