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The decline in Pakistan broadcasting rights at home and abroad. Who is to blame ie the PCB or Pakistani Cricketers?

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Last I heard that the PCB broadcast deal with the foreign broadcasters for their home series ie test, ODI and T20 from 2024 to 2026 ie $10 million which was peanuts. The demand from the local domestic broadcasters was not any better from PTV Sports, Asports and Geo Super.

Now I am hearing that none of the Australian broadcasters in Australia are interested in broadcasting the Pakistan vs Australia T20 series. We had heard similar reports a few months ago that the PCB was facing problems in selling the international rights for their Test, ODI and T20 series vs South Africa at home or the Tri T20 series featuring Pakistan, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka

If I were the PCB I would be terrified and seriously alarmed by all this. To be fair to the PCB they are trying to address the problem of the lack of interest or demand for Pakistan Cricket in the international markets and hence why they are focusing very hard on the PCB live OTP platform where overseas Pakistani and international fans can just purchase a prescription at a cheap price, package deal directly from the PCB.

The PCB needs to think long and hard about picking unnecessary fights with the BCCI and the ICC and look to put its house in order first.

So who shares the greater burden of responsibility for the lack of demand and interest for Pakistan Cricket in the overseas market ie the PCB administration or the Pakistani Cricketers star core players ie Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Fakhar etc who have all been playing for the past 9-10 years and have just not been delivering of late.
 
OP claimed yesterday that Babar and Rizwan would get sold for at least $1m in the IPL auction

It’s this kind of deluded mindset that is the reason for its decline today.

These are the type of people who have portrayed rubbish as Gold, and anticipate that the world also views that rubbish as gold.
 
What's the psl broadcasting rights valuation ? If it's good , you don't need to worry, people have moved on from international to league
 
Pakistani fans should realize Pakistan only has importance cause of India.

None of England-Australia particularly care about Pak cricket.

Same geopolitically.
 
AAli98 said:
Can’t see anyone taking days off work to watch Nafay & Usman khans legendary batting techniques, or Wasim jnr & co getting spanked for 6s.
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Quality of players have gone down big time. This is not just true for Pakistan but all teams. I blame T20 pretty much.

In the past, I could pay money to watch Ponting, Inzamam, Saeed Anwar, Shahid Afridi, Ijaz, Sehwag, Jayasuriya etc. They were genuine superstars with high skills.

Will I pay to watch modern day cricketers? It is much more unlikely. Majority of them simply do not have the swaggers or skills like past cricketers. They are just T20 hacks. :inti
 
sweep_shot said:
I have written this before. Cricket is dying/declining worldwide. Interest is falling.

There is interest in T20 but ODI/Test seems to be dying.

I blame BCCICC for turning cricket into a farce. :inti
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Cricket was never a big worldwide sport. It relies on a few key nations, and with Pakistan and West Indies decline, the interest had dived further.

It's in the subcontinent that the game is popular, and when you lose two of the biggest players, then what are you left with?

India and a few white nations that don't take the game seriously.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Cricket was never a big worldwide sport. It relies on a few key nations, and with Pakistan and West Indies decline, the interest had dived further.

It's in the subcontinent that the game is popular, and when you lose two of the biggest players, then what are you left with?

India and a few white nations that don't take the game seriously.
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It still had quality 15-20 years ago. It was marketable.

Not the case anymore. It is now just unskilled T20 nonsense.
 
Savak said:
Last I heard that the PCB broadcast deal with the foreign broadcasters for their home series ie test, ODI and T20 from 2024 to 2026 ie $10 million which was peanuts. The demand from the local domestic broadcasters was not any better from PTV Sports, Asports and Geo Super.

Now I am hearing that none of the Australian broadcasters in Australia are interested in broadcasting the Pakistan vs Australia T20 series. We had heard similar reports a few months ago that the PCB was facing problems in selling the international rights for their Test, ODI and T20 series vs South Africa at home or the Tri T20 series featuring Pakistan, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka

If I were the PCB I would be terrified and seriously alarmed by all this. To be fair to the PCB they are trying to address the problem of the lack of interest or demand for Pakistan Cricket in the international markets and hence why they are focusing very hard on the PCB live OTP platform where overseas Pakistani and international fans can just purchase a prescription at a cheap price, package deal directly from the PCB.

The PCB needs to think long and hard about picking unnecessary fights with the BCCI and the ICC and look to put its house in order first.

So who shares the greater burden of responsibility for the lack of demand and interest for Pakistan Cricket in the overseas market ie the PCB administration or the Pakistani Cricketers star core players ie Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Fakhar etc who have all been playing for the past 9-10 years and have just not been delivering of late.
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Said this already.

Pakistani public needs to pay for cricket like they do in India. All the said problems will then go away.
 
This particular instance was because of the timing I believe.

Granted, the team’s quality of cricket has nose-dived so not many fans are interested in watching this kind of a mis-match anymore.

India-Pakistan games are surviving due to politics, otherwise it’s a joke how our cricketers continue to get thrashed by them every chance they get.
 
There is an issue with the way cricket tournaments are scheduled. Apart from Indians who will watch any cricket it is too much for ordinary fans to keep up with.

These pre world cup matches nobody takes seriously. They are essentially low stakes warm ups that mean nothing. Its only in cricket that this nonsense happens. These teams are going to play each other in a premier tournament. Who cares about a random t20 series before it?

Even the Asia cup is scheduled wrongly imo. It becomes a warm up for the world cup. And before that Pakistan had a tri series to warm up for that warm up.

Even other countries are struggling in more premier formats. England broadcasters couldn't muster up a team to properly cover the Ashes on TNT. There is just overkill of cricket. I haven't bothered watching even one ball of England v Sri Lanka. I watched the NZ v India ODI series just to see how Kohli and Sharma do. Haven't watched a ball of the t20. It's inconsequential, the real matches are coming up soon.

We need to look at how matches are scheduled. If it was up to me I would pause all international series for 3 months before a world cup. This is a 10 team sports where teams play each other all the time, at some point fans do stop caring for these no context no value series. U-19 is more interesting because it's new players. The recent India v Bangladesh match was more exciting than the current senior pre world cup matches.
 
Savak said:
Now I am hearing that none of the Australian broadcasters in Australia are interested in broadcasting the Pakistan vs Australia T20 series.
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FAKE NEWS! Likely spread by our lovely neighbors.

The rights were bought by Kayo and Fox last week. Australian news outlets also mentioned the broadcasters.

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RidiculousMan said:
FAKE NEWS! Likely spread by our lovely neighbors.

The rights were bought by Kayo and Fox last week. Australian news outlets also mentioned the broadcasters.

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Weldone mate 👍🏼

Lot of propaganda news coming from indian sources in the last few days and Pakistanis are falling for it.
 
IronShield said:
Said this already.

Pakistani public needs to pay for cricket like they do in India. All the said problems will then go away.
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Pakistani public pays for cricket in the form of license fee for PTV as well as mobile payments for OTT platforms.

The problem is that because tax rules aren't stringent and most of the businesses are owned by a certain few in the elite, there's not enough reason for these people to pay a premium for advertisement.

Financial explanation if anyone isn't aware:

Big companies spend money in advertisement as it lowers their profit margins and they end up in a lower tax bracket. The marketing expense is also seen as an asset for the company as it helps them build brand value as well as get mind share of the user. It also shows up in the asset side in the balance sheet (digital and physical assets) & is part of the evaluation of the overall value of the company.

Because Pakistan doesn't really have a proper taxation culture, companies have no reason to invest in marketing to lower their profits. We also have a monopoly of a few institutes/organizations over the local market and they absolutely do not need to market themselves to be successful. The international brands do not feel the need to regularly advertise in Pakistani market because their revenue share from our market is either negligible or unavoidable due to lack of choice. The Emirates airlines for this reason will prefer to show ads in Indian market as it is competing with other airlines but not in Pakistani market because it really doesn't need to as competition is non existent.

Local channels run on government ads so they don't really care about getting eyeballs & ratings from users. They also understand that sport is not the main driver in our country so they don't even bother investing in it.

For example the current head of PCB is also an owner of media empire & a major chunk of advertisement revenue that they earn is from, wait for it, government ads. (I mean the man literally sits in one chair and signs the checks which then are received by his business and then he signs them again to get cash.)
 
Really? What happened to those billions of eyeballs? The eyeballs crowding around 24-inch TVs at doodh soda stalls in Pindi and Lahore has minimal purchasing power.

PCB should acknowledge their current status or lack thereof and stop being a nuisance to ICC.
 
emranabbas said:
don’t think cricket in Pakistan has that craze, almost religious level of obsession you see in India. For most people in pakistan, it’s more of a casual pastime something to enjoy, chat about, and have a bit of fun with, rather than a full blown national craze.
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Only in one country has a cricketer become PM.
 
saimayubera said:
Pakistani fans should realize Pakistan only has importance cause of India.

None of England-Australia particularly care about Pak cricket.

Same geopolitically.
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Savak said:
Last I heard that the PCB broadcast deal with the foreign broadcasters for their home series ie test, ODI and T20 from 2024 to 2026 ie $10 million which was peanuts. The demand from the local domestic broadcasters was not any better from PTV Sports, Asports and Geo Super.

Now I am hearing that none of the Australian broadcasters in Australia are interested in broadcasting the Pakistan vs Australia T20 series. We had heard similar reports a few months ago that the PCB was facing problems in selling the international rights for their Test, ODI and T20 series vs South Africa at home or the Tri T20 series featuring Pakistan, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka

If I were the PCB I would be terrified and seriously alarmed by all this. To be fair to the PCB they are trying to address the problem of the lack of interest or demand for Pakistan Cricket in the international markets and hence why they are focusing very hard on the PCB live OTP platform where overseas Pakistani and international fans can just purchase a prescription at a cheap price, package deal directly from the PCB.

The PCB needs to think long and hard about picking unnecessary fights with the BCCI and the ICC and look to put its house in order first.

So who shares the greater burden of responsibility for the lack of demand and interest for Pakistan Cricket in the overseas market ie the PCB administration or the Pakistani Cricketers star core players ie Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Fakhar etc who have all been playing for the past 9-10 years and have just not been delivering of late.
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Bad economy + complete clown show from PCB and Players. Simple
If your country started of bad/underdogs like Srilanka or Bangladesh, then you can support for many years with passion and hope one day to become better
But if you were much better in the past and now you have completely tanked, than people start moving away
 
Savak said:
Last I heard that the PCB broadcast deal with the foreign broadcasters for their home series ie test, ODI and T20 from 2024 to 2026 ie $10 million which was peanuts. The demand from the local domestic broadcasters was not any better from PTV Sports, Asports and Geo Super.

Now I am hearing that none of the Australian broadcasters in Australia are interested in broadcasting the Pakistan vs Australia T20 series. We had heard similar reports a few months ago that the PCB was facing problems in selling the international rights for their Test, ODI and T20 series vs South Africa at home or the Tri T20 series featuring Pakistan, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka

If I were the PCB I would be terrified and seriously alarmed by all this. To be fair to the PCB they are trying to address the problem of the lack of interest or demand for Pakistan Cricket in the international markets and hence why they are focusing very hard on the PCB live OTP platform where overseas Pakistani and international fans can just purchase a prescription at a cheap price, package deal directly from the PCB.

The PCB needs to think long and hard about picking unnecessary fights with the BCCI and the ICC and look to put its house in order first.

So who shares the greater burden of responsibility for the lack of demand and interest for Pakistan Cricket in the overseas market ie the PCB administration or the Pakistani Cricketers star core players ie Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Fakhar etc who have all been playing for the past 9-10 years and have just not been delivering of late.
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Pakistanis have a lot on their hands. They are not watching cricket as much as they used to for various reasons. If you can get people to watch the sports religiously, thats what drives the value of broadcasting rights. England football team is crap but their people follow them with dedication.
 
saimayubera said:
That shows that in that country anyone can become a PM by merit.

But what do Pakistanis know of elections.

ZERO PMs have completed a full term in Pakistani history EVER.

And my comment was in reply to which country was more cricket crazy lol.
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that shows that only in india can a low intellect individual become pM based on politics of hate and discrimination. thats all that means.
 
Stewie said:
Pakistanis have a lot on their hands. They are not watching cricket as much as they used to for various reasons. If you can get people to watch the sports religiously, thats what drives the value of broadcasting rights. England football team is crap but their people follow them with dedication.
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Does modern day cricket feel fun? It feels like a rigged Indian sport.

Football is always golden. No Indian drama. So, people still show dedication because they know it is a pure sport.

Cricket is no longer a pure sport. It has become BCCICC. It has become a sport of discrimination, overcommercialization, and petty politics. :inti
 
sweep_shot said:
Does modern day cricket feel fun? It feels like a rigged Indian sport.

Football is always golden. No Indian drama. So, people still show dedication because they know it is a pure sport.

Cricket is no longer a pure sport. It has become BCCICC. It has become a sport of discrimination, overcommercialization, and petty politics. :inti
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Thats a very good question. It is definitely rigged by Indians, and it has been changed to suit their game. But that should not be an excuse.. Pakistan's cricket quality has gone down considerably but its not as bad as the WI.

I personally believe T20 has had a lot do with the overall deterioration. Pakistanis like instant gratification, spectators as well as players and the focus on the shortest format and lack of focus on the longer format has resulted in this deterioration.

But to your point, the balance is completely off in the game. It has become extremely bat friendly, and that leans heavily in the favor of Indians. Reverse swing and other weapons fast bowlers used to have at their disposal are almost non existent now. Now they have to "hide" from the batsman, if you understand the particular cricketing vernacular.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
Save it for the Time Pass forum. No one gives a crap about your PM or anyone else's. The problem in this context is less people are giving a crap about cricket and that is an issue because it had limited appeal in the first place.
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IN PAKISTAN

Globally the game is expanding with TV rights going for record sums, T20 leagues sprouting everywhere which are very popular, more countries playing the game.

There is just way more money in the game.

Pakistanis are just salty that all this is India driven rather than the old days where Ind-Pak were "sem2sem" both on and off the field.

In reality, Pakistan has also become richer both cricketing wise and otherwise compared to the 1990s. It just SEEMS they have gone backwards because India has gone so far ahead.

PSL has brought a lot more money into Pakistani cricket compared to before. Just that it pales before IPL money and hence the disaffection.
 
Stewie said:
Thats a very good question. It is definitely rigged by Indians, and it has been changed to suit their game. But that should not be an excuse.. Pakistan's cricket quality has gone down considerably but its not as bad as the WI.

I personally believe T20 has had a lot do with the overall deterioration. Pakistanis like instant gratification, spectators as well as players and the focus on the shortest format and lack of focus on the longer format has resulted in this deterioration.

But to your point, the balance is completely off in the game. It has become extremely bat friendly, and that leans heavily in the favor of Indians. Reverse swing and other weapons fast bowlers used to have at their disposal are almost non existent now. Now they have to "hide" from the batsman, if you understand the particular cricketing vernacular.
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Agree.

To put it bluntly, cricket no longer feels fun. Even World Cups are starting to feel farcical/rigged. For example, CT 2025. What was that? It was a complete farce. India always tend to get venue perks, scheduling perks etc.

Another thing I don't like is they put Pakistan and India in the same group every time and they always put it on Sunday. Why not mix these fixtures up? FIFA doesn't behave like this and FIFA is much more relevant than BCCICC.

India turned cricket into an unappealing and rigged sport. No wonder why people are losing interests and/or opting for other sports.
 
sweep_shot said:
Agree.

To put it bluntly, cricket no longer feels fun. Even World Cups are starting to feel farcical/rigged. For example, CT 2025. What was that? It was a complete farce.

Another thing I don't like is they put Pakistan and India in the same group every time and they always put it on Sunday. Why not mix these fixtures up? FIFA doesn't behave like this and FIFA is much more relevant than BCCICC.

India turned cricket into an unappealing and rigged sport. No wonder why people are losing interests and/or opting for other sports.
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its hilarious that India claims "they" bring in the money, that "they" generate all the revenue and its all done seemingly singlehandedly if you follow their logic.

But then you see this nonsense and start wondering if this claim is true. India cannot do anything without other international teams when it comes to generating the revenue. People want to watch quality cricket against quality opposition and even with an underperforming pakistan, the matchup produces crap ton of revenue for India. If it did not, they would replace that England or Australia.
 
Savak said:
Lol, no one is bothering to answer the question i.e. who holds greater responsibility for this (The PCB or the Pakistani Cricketers in general)?
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Pakistani cricketers should get 0 blame here. Obviously we are not talking about off field shenanigans but on field, they have always given best to their ability win or lose.

BCCI is run by politicians too and power grabs happen but they don’t touch some processes regardless of who made them or who is involved. PCB restructures the entire thing every time there is a govt change. So they should get more blame.

Also Pak team need good corporate sponsorship, rice mill owners and textile mill owners or rich politicians pumping funds is not a sustainable model. Corporates bring professionalism and accountability
 
Savak said:
Lol, no one is bothering to answer the question i.e. who holds greater responsibility for this (The PCB or the Pakistani Cricketers in general)?
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Neither. A 3 match t20 warmup series before a world cup, post Ashes and post BBL is dull viewing for Aussies and this likely would have been the case for a similar series against any country bar India.
 
saimayubera said:
IN PAKISTAN

Globally the game is expanding with TV rights going for record sums, T20 leagues sprouting everywhere which are very popular, more countries playing the game.

There is just way more money in the game.

Pakistanis are just salty that all this is India driven rather than the old days where Ind-Pak were "sem2sem" both on and off the field.

In reality, Pakistan has also become richer both cricketing wise and otherwise compared to the 1990s. It just SEEMS they have gone backwards because India has gone so far ahead.

PSL has brought a lot more money into Pakistani cricket compared to before. Just that it pales before IPL money and hence the disaffection.
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The only reason the game has expanded globally is because Indians have spread all over the globe. As a sport it has not become popular beyond the few countries that were former British colonies.

Even then two of those, the West Indies and Pakistan have either lost interest or been sidelined. The game is so niche to subcontinent audiences, it is a big blow if one of those countries becomes less invested. That is why the organisers ALWAYS ensure that there is a Pakistan/India group game so they can cash in.

You can keep your saffron specs on if you wish, it makes no difference to me. That is how the sponsors and organisers see it regardless.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
The only reason the game has expanded globally is because Indians have spread all over the globe. As a sport it has not become popular beyond the few countries that were former British colonies.

Even then two of those, the West Indies and Pakistan have either lost interest or been sidelined. The game is so niche to subcontinent audiences, it is a big blow if one of those countries becomes less invested. That is why the organisers ALWAYS ensure that there is a Pakistan/India group game so they can cash in.

You can keep your saffron specs on if you wish, it makes no difference to me. That is how the sponsors and organisers see it regardless.
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Correct.

It is mostly Indians who go nuts over cricket. Rest either don't care or are losing interest. India destroyed this sport for everyone.
 
AamchiMumbaikar said:
What's the psl broadcasting rights valuation ? If it's good , you don't need to worry, people have moved on from international to league
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The last valuation was $15 million per year from 2025-2026.

With the addition of 2 teams, moving to an auction model, lets see how much the PCB can get. The fact the PCB is not planning to drastically increase the PSL window and have a home, away concept for every team is not good news which means the PCB probably realizes they will not get more money for the local broadcasters for more games.
 
sweep_shot said:
Quality of players have gone down big time. This is not just true for Pakistan but all teams. I blame T20 pretty much.

In the past, I could pay money to watch Ponting, Inzamam, Saeed Anwar, Shahid Afridi, Ijaz, Sehwag, Jayasuriya etc. They were genuine superstars with high skills.

Will I pay to watch modern day cricketers? It is much more unlikely. Majority of them simply do not have the swaggers or skills like past cricketers. They are just T20 hacks. :inti
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This argument does not make much sense. When these legends were at their peak, broadcasters were paying a pittance for tv rights in comparison to the amounts being paid today.
 
IronShield said:
Said this already.

Pakistani public needs to pay for cricket like they do in India. All the said problems will then go away.
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How does the Indian public pay for cricket in India unlike Pakistan apart from filling out the stadiums? Is Cricket Broadcast on private tv where everyone is required to pay a subscription fee to the BCCI?
 
emranabbas said:
don’t think cricket in Pakistan has that craze, almost religious level of obsession you see in India. For most people in pakistan, it’s more of a casual pastime something to enjoy, chat about, and have a bit of fun with, rather than a full blown national craze.
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Thats the answer, it doesn't help when there are not enough super stars and when the team barely wins anything significant. I remember the CT 2017 win when the entire public filled out the streets, airports, homes of the cricketers and when every govt, private organization and individual was announcing gifts, money, cars, plots, lands for the cricketers left, right and centre. Poor Mohd Amir had to honour his county contract and couldn't return home and he was the main reason why Pakistan won.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
There is an issue with the way cricket tournaments are scheduled. Apart from Indians who will watch any cricket it is too much for ordinary fans to keep up with.

These pre world cup matches nobody takes seriously. They are essentially low stakes warm ups that mean nothing. Its only in cricket that this nonsense happens. These teams are going to play each other in a premier tournament. Who cares about a random t20 series before it?

Even the Asia cup is scheduled wrongly imo. It becomes a warm up for the world cup. And before that Pakistan had a tri series to warm up for that warm up.

Even other countries are struggling in more premier formats. England broadcasters couldn't muster up a team to properly cover the Ashes on TNT. There is just overkill of cricket. I haven't bothered watching even one ball of England v Sri Lanka. I watched the NZ v India ODI series just to see how Kohli and Sharma do. Haven't watched a ball of the t20. It's inconsequential, the real matches are coming up soon.

We need to look at how matches are scheduled. If it was up to me I would pause all international series for 3 months before a world cup. This is a 10 team sports where teams play each other all the time, at some point fans do stop caring for these no context no value series. U-19 is more interesting because it's new players. The recent India v Bangladesh match was more exciting than the current senior pre world cup matches.
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Cricket just might go the football route, billateral ODI's and T20's might be cancelled and we will only see major ICC events being scheduled whenever there is spare time. Countries can choose to play test cricket for nostalgic purposes but the calender will be filled up with T-20, T-10 leagues.
 
RidiculousMan said:
FAKE NEWS! Likely spread by our lovely neighbors.

The rights were bought by Kayo and Fox last week. Australian news outlets also mentioned the broadcasters.

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Australia Tour of Pakistan 2026: Schedule, Squads & Streaming

Get the full Australia tour of Pakistan 2026 schedule with squads, match timings, venues, and ticket booking info in one place.
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So a pakistani poster posted the news and you are blaming india?

I have said this before, but your obsession is mental illness level.

And that's one of the reason your country and cricket doesn't develop.
 
sweep_shot said:
Correct.

It is mostly Indians who go nuts over cricket. Rest either don't care or are losing interest. India destroyed this sport for everyone.
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Once again the troll is lying, SA cricket is improving by leaps and bounds, the big three are doing better than ever before. NZ is doing same as always

Countries like west indies, pakistan, Bangladesh cricket is in decline because their economies are dying and people don't have money.


But lie lie and blame india. That's all the delusional lying troll can do 24 by 7.
 
Savak said:
Cricket just might go the football route, billateral ODI's and T20's might be cancelled and we will only see major ICC events being scheduled whenever there is spare time. Countries can choose to play test cricket for nostalgic purposes but the calender will be filled up with T-20, T-10 leagues.
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Random T20 series is meaningless to everyone, ODIs is similar. In most cases, even the players don't care.

The most enjoyable thing about sport is when results matter in wider context. Nobody will remember if either Pakistan or Australia win this series 3-0, only the world cup will matter.

It seems likely that leagues will fill up the calendar more and more and it will go down the football route as you said.

To be honest ICC has at least finally tried to give test cricket some context via the but the ship has sailed for test cricket in most countries now anyway.
 
I will tell you something, if I was an Australian billionaire media Moghul with a net worth of 50 billion AUD, then I would not think twice in bidding 1000 crore PKR for this iconic series because I would want Australian kids to watch and learn from the likes of legend killer Sahebzada Farhan, hospitality cutie Agha ji and ultra avenger Abrar Ahmed.
 
Broadcasters and partners in general seek stability and assurance. PCB’s brand, on the other hand, is chaos and immaturity.
 
sweep_shot said:
Correct.

It is mostly Indians who go nuts over cricket. Rest either don't care or are losing interest. India destroyed this sport for everyone.
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Yes sadly even when leading cricket publications that are under Indian ownership start to talk about tournaments being rigged in India's favour then it shows everyone is aware of the Indian induced rot.

Unfortunately, there is never any self-reflection. Instead, they come here to tell us we are mental and obsessed with them without seeing the irony
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When things like handshakes generate abuse from Indian "fans", opposition coaches and players receive death and rape threats and intimidation, it is difficult for anyone to express their opinion. I had hope for some decent indians to push back against corporatism within cricket, the same way many football fans pushed back when their own clubs tried to rig tournaments to benefit themselves, but sadly the Indians enjoy rigging and even justify it!
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Yes sadly even when leading cricket publications that are under Indian ownership start to talk about tournaments being rigged in India's favour then it shows everyone is aware of the Indian induced rot.

Unfortunately, there is never any self-reflection. Instead, they come here to tell us we are mental and obsessed with them without seeing the irony
:inti

When things like handshakes generate abuse from Indian "fans", opposition coaches and players receive death and rape threats and intimidation, it is difficult for anyone to express their opinion. I had hope for some decent indians to push back against corporatism within cricket, the same way many football fans pushed back when their own clubs tried to rig tournaments to benefit themselves, but sadly the Indians enjoy rigging and even justify it!
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Indians do not believe in self-reflection or self-accountability. In cricket or outside of cricket. This is why they may never maximize their potential. :inti
 
For all the people who are whining about India dominating cricket with IPL, there is nothing stopping your boards to organize test matches and ODIs with other teams. Pak has been in decline since 2009 attack and will take years to reverse. WI has been in decline since 2000s. No one there cares for WI as WI not a country. Most players there are now making more money than their predecessors and they don't care about playing for WI which is just a made up team

Regarding the question asked by @Savak in OP, answer is simple, Pak's economy s**ks now. Let it improve and a raising tide will raise everything along with it. Right now no one wants to invest in Pakistan due to uncertainties and it is same in BD. But things won't stay like that, it will improve. Even now PCB makes more money than anytime in its history and it will keep improving. No one wants to buy overseas rights now because honestly Pak is a very boring team. There is not a single player in Pak team i would pay to watch, may be babar in ODIs. Thats it.. Unless Pak finds some dynamic players who are both good players and marketable it will be this way. We all still follow for nostalgia of good old days when Pak had players like Inzy, Yuhana, Wasim, Akthar, etc. If someone is starting today there is no iconic players they want to follow in Pak and hence their market value is pretty less
 
DeadlyVenom said:
Yes sadly even when leading cricket publications that are under Indian ownership start to talk about tournaments being rigged in India's favour then it shows everyone is aware of the Indian induced rot.

Unfortunately, there is never any self-reflection. Instead, they come here to tell us we are mental and obsessed with them without seeing the irony
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When things like handshakes generate abuse from Indian "fans", opposition coaches and players receive death and rape threats and intimidation, it is difficult for anyone to express their opinion. I had hope for some decent indians to push back against corporatism within cricket, the same way many football fans pushed back when their own clubs tried to rig tournaments to benefit themselves, but sadly the Indians enjoy rigging and even justify it!
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What you say is true. But this is only one side of the problem. What about the other side?

The ICC and pretty much all the other boards are participants to this rot. Why? Because they are pretty much the same as the BCCI. Greedy, corrupt and full of themselves. In fact I would say they are worse than BCCI. Lazy as well. At least the BCCI is generating $$$. These people are just taking the $$$ without any work.

The entire ecosystem gets the blame.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
The only reason the game has expanded globally is because Indians have spread all over the globe. As a sport it has not become popular beyond the few countries that were former British colonies.

Even then two of those, the West Indies and Pakistan have either lost interest or been sidelined. The game is so niche to subcontinent audiences, it is a big blow if one of those countries becomes less invested. That is why the organisers ALWAYS ensure that there is a Pakistan/India group game so they can cash in.

You can keep your saffron specs on if you wish, it makes no difference to me. That is how the sponsors and organisers see it regardless.
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NFL, MLB. Two sports that no one outside the US no one cares about. That is where cricket is heading.

Perhaps close to already being there. It has become India centric. Even in Ind. I am sure IPL is a bigger brand and draw than their international fixtures. Looks like the IPL will be the prime format. With some other things played around it.

Both NFL and MLB are thriving and have a huge fan base. Including me! Same I think would be the case with cricket. Huge IPL following and so will the $$$$.
 
U$ofA said:
What you say is true. But this is only one side of the problem. What about the other side?

The ICC and pretty much all the other boards are participants to this rot. Why? Because they are pretty much the same as the BCCI. Greedy, corrupt and full of themselves. In fact I would say they are worse than BCCI. Lazy as well. At least the BCCI is generating $$$. These people are just taking the $$$ without any work.

The entire ecosystem gets the blame.
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The BCCI isn't really generating money either. It's spent the generated money wisely but has it done much different to the other boards? It has a cricket crazy market that's pretty much self catering. At the moment cricket is the only outlet for these people, BCCI will probably be tested when some alternative sport comes into play for Indians that will test the loyalties of Indian cricket fans.

Indian corporates are the ones really doing the heavy lifting.
 
U$ofA said:
NFL, MLB. Two sports that no one outside the US no one cares about. That is where cricket is heading.

Perhaps close to already being there. It has become India centric. Even in Ind. I am sure IPL is a bigger brand and draw than their international fixtures. Looks like the IPL will be the prime format. With some other things played around it.

Both NFL and MLB are thriving and have a huge fan base. Including me! Same I think would be the case with cricket. Huge IPL following and so will the $$$$.
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What role will BCCI have in this format? I think they could also be turkeys voting for Christmas. If there is no international cricket and no need for clearances etc I reckon these companies could get eventually decide not to stop subsiding the BCCI. Why should they listen if BCCI wants to stop a prime Indian player from playing SA20 for example.

Already it's quite clear that for many players like Bumrah the IPL teams are basically dictating when and where he can play for India.
 
DeadlyVenom said:
What role will BCCI have in this format? I think they could also be turkeys voting for Christmas. If there is no international cricket and no need for clearances etc I reckon these companies could get eventually decide not to stop subsiding the BCCI. Why should they listen if BCCI wants to stop a prime Indian player from playing SA20 for example.

Already it's quite clear that for many players like Bumrah the IPL teams are basically dictating when and where he can play for India.
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That'll have the same role USA Basketball has then.
 
U$ofA said:
NFL, MLB. Two sports that no one outside the US no one cares about. That is where cricket is heading.

Perhaps close to already being there. It has become India centric. Even in Ind. I am sure IPL is a bigger brand and draw than their international fixtures. Looks like the IPL will be the prime format. With some other things played around it.

Both NFL and MLB are thriving and have a huge fan base. Including me! Same I think would be the case with cricket. Huge IPL following and so will the $$$$.
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Yup. Considering India has decades of growth left, even tier 2 cities like Indore, Kochi, Vizag, Surat, Pune will get teams.

Places like Denver, Indianapolis, Salt Lake City have teams.

Heck, like LA and NY, Mumbai/Delhi might get second teams based in the suburbs - Navi Mumbai, Gurgaon etc.
 
Bad news for the PCB and the PSL. The broadcasters both local and international failed to meet the minimum reserve price set by the PCB for the broadcasting rights. Hence now the PCB will try their luck again in round two next week
 
Savak said:
Last I heard that the PCB broadcast deal with the foreign broadcasters for their home series ie test, ODI and T20 from 2024 to 2026 ie $10 million which was peanuts. The demand from the local domestic broadcasters was not any better from PTV Sports, Asports and Geo Super.

Now I am hearing that none of the Australian broadcasters in Australia are interested in broadcasting the Pakistan vs Australia T20 series. We had heard similar reports a few months ago that the PCB was facing problems in selling the international rights for their Test, ODI and T20 series vs South Africa at home or the Tri T20 series featuring Pakistan, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka

If I were the PCB I would be terrified and seriously alarmed by all this. To be fair to the PCB they are trying to address the problem of the lack of interest or demand for Pakistan Cricket in the international markets and hence why they are focusing very hard on the PCB live OTP platform where overseas Pakistani and international fans can just purchase a prescription at a cheap price, package deal directly from the PCB.

The PCB needs to think long and hard about picking unnecessary fights with the BCCI and the ICC and look to put its house in order first.

So who shares the greater burden of responsibility for the lack of demand and interest for Pakistan Cricket in the overseas market ie the PCB administration or the Pakistani Cricketers star core players ie Babar, Rizwan, Shaheen, Fakhar etc who have all been playing for the past 9-10 years and have just not been delivering of late.
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Some one said psl wil pay gigantic amount for direct signings of cricketers
 
Savak said:
Bad news for the PCB and the PSL. The broadcasters both local and international failed to meet the minimum reserve price set by the PCB for the broadcasting rights. Hence now the PCB will try their luck again in round two next week
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This tells how poor the psl is
 
cricketjoshila said:
This tells how poor the psl is
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It indeed is a concern because two new teams have been added and an auction has been announced and even then local and international broadcasters are not willing to pay the minimum price the PCB is asking. Is this a consequence of choosing the same window as the IPL?
 
Savak said:
It indeed is a concern because two new teams have been added and an auction has been announced and even then local and international broadcasters are not willing to pay the minimum price the PCB is asking. Is this a consequence of choosing the same window as the IPL?
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We don't know the price. Perhaps pCB overvalued. Dawn is saying bids are higher than before but still didn't meet reserve. So there is some interest but we dont know yet if issue is PSL itself or PCB valuation being crazy.
 
Savak said:
Bad news for the PCB and the PSL. The broadcasters both local and international failed to meet the minimum reserve price set by the PCB for the broadcasting rights. Hence now the PCB will try their luck again in round two next week
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There's definitely something weird about the way Pakistani broadcasting rights are sold. Currently, the average broadcast (TV + streaming) rights value for a single IPL game is about $10M with a season fetching close to $1Billion. Yes Pakistan is a smaller economy but you can't tell me the rights are worth 50 times less for the only sport the country plays and watches.

Has to be a failure of imagination in the way the package is marketed and sold. Somehow the PCB, PSL and the teams have failed to convince the Pakistani people that this experience is something worth paying for.
 
Red-Indian said:
There's definitely something weird about the way Pakistani broadcasting rights are sold. Currently, the average broadcast (TV + streaming) rights value for a single IPL game is about $10M with a season fetching close to $1Billion. Yes Pakistan is a smaller economy but you can't tell me the rights are worth 50 times less for the only sport the country plays and watches.

Has to be a failure of imagination in the way the package is marketed and sold. Somehow the PCB, PSL and the teams have failed to convince the Pakistani people that this experience is something worth paying for.
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Some users on x are stating "Till the time these media houses don't have a competition and ruling that only sports channels can apply, PCB will never get a fair valuation of media rights, the PCB should lobby with the govt and ask them to grant it special permission to ask non sports channels to bid for these rights as well"
 
Savak said:
Some users on x are stating "Till the time these media houses don't have a competition and ruling that only sports channels can apply, PCB will never get a fair valuation of media rights, the PCB should lobby with the govt and ask them to grant it special permission to ask non sports channels to bid for these rights as well"
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True...that might be a factor. I'm not sure why the government should be bothered with who broadcasts it. It's not like the national team is playing. Just a private league. If a non-sports channel wants to increase it's presence by securing the rights to the premier sporting event of the country, why should a stupid rule stand in it's way?

In the end though, TV channels and streamers have to learn to monetise it. Google won't tell me what the monthly subscription charges for A Sports both TV and Streaming are. That's where a lot of the money must come from in the absence of a robust advertising market.
 
Red-Indian said:
There's definitely something weird about the way Pakistani broadcasting rights are sold. Currently, the average broadcast (TV + streaming) rights value for a single IPL game is about $10M with a season fetching close to $1Billion. Yes Pakistan is a smaller economy but you can't tell me the rights are worth 50 times less for the only sport the country plays and watches.

Has to be a failure of imagination in the way the package is marketed and sold. Somehow the PCB, PSL and the teams have failed to convince the Pakistani people that this experience is something worth paying for.
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Or its simply incompetence
 
DeadlyVenom said:
What role will BCCI have in this format? I think they could also be turkeys voting for Christmas. If there is no international cricket and no need for clearances etc I reckon these companies could get eventually decide not to stop subsiding the BCCI. Why should they listen if BCCI wants to stop a prime Indian player from playing SA20 for example.

Already it's quite clear that for many players like Bumrah the IPL teams are basically dictating when and where he can play for India.
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Market forces dictate things. As it should be. Let the free market get the final say.

If the fans flock to the IPL more than internationals, so be it. It is what they want. I think it is already happening in Ind. In this case, IPL becomes the big daddy. BCCI becomes second fiddle. So be it. It is what the fans want that is important.
 
Savak said:
Some users on x are stating "Till the time these media houses don't have a competition and ruling that only sports channels can apply, PCB will never get a fair valuation of media rights, the PCB should lobby with the govt and ask them to grant it special permission to ask non sports channels to bid for these rights as well"
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Sre there independent non sports channels that have big money to splurge?


Even BCCI has a rule that bidder must have experience in sports broadcasting
 
IPL's value dropped 20% as well in recent times.

Truth is there aren't many worthwhile players to watch in world cricket currently. Most are T20 hacks. It is not just true for Pakistan but all teams pretty much.

Quality of cricket has gone down thanks to too much T20.
 
cricketjoshila said:
Sre there independent non sports channels that have big money to splurge?


Even BCCI has a rule that bidder must have experience in sports broadcasting
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You will be surprised to see the vast difference in traffic between our sporting youtube channels and entertainment, drama based channels like Geo, ARY, we are talking about 50 million subscriptions for drama, entertainment channels vs 1 million for sporting channels.
 
sweep_shot said:
IPL's value dropped 20% as well in recent times.

Truth is there aren't many worthwhile players to watch in world cricket currently. Most are T20 hacks. It is not just true for Pakistan but all teams pretty much.

Quality of cricket has gone down thanks to too much T20.
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Theres difference between value and brand value
 
Savak said:
You will be surprised to see the vast difference in traffic between our sporting youtube channels and entertainment, drama based channels like Geo, ARY, we are talking about 50 million subscriptions for drama, entertainment channels vs 1 million for sporting channels.
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India has a huge paid ott subscription population that's why bidsfor ott rights have gone up
 
It's is quite apparent that the reserve prices of all of the cricket events were exaggerated/overstated

Even the non-Pakistani cricket events' prices have come down

This is why I don't believe any of these cricket valuation figures


The series in question was abruptly planned. It has a very weak Pak team in it and I have no doubt in my mind that PCB is asking for the price which it doesn't deserve
 
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