The Kumar Sangakkara Mega thread

[Adil_94]

If someone is a WK you dont expect them to average 50 as a batsman. Sanga should be judged as a pure bat.

 

[SL_Fan]

I've just ticked "Not as wicketkeeper" and look what I found!!!


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I actually posted that on another thread.

What's actually phenomenal is his numbers as a pure batsman.

Excluding Bangla and Zimboks

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

Of course the haters will still continue to hate talking all kind of gibberish and removing/adding this and that but those are quite simply astounding numbers.

So what posting his numbers as a pure bat is being insecure now? lol Wk/bats are generally compared to other wk/bats. In the same way as all-rounders are compared to other all-rounders, spinners to spinners, fast bowlers to fast bowlers and so on. What you say would make sense had there been no data of him as a pure bat back when he was a wk/bat to make a fair comparison. But that is not the case here.

Sanga as a wk/bat (excluding Bangla and Zimboks)

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...orderby=default;template=results;type=batting

Sanga as a pure bat in the same period (excluding Bangla and Zimboks)

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...8;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

So as you can see there was a significant difference between Sanga the wk/bat and Sanga the pure bat even back then (ave of 40 v 70). And one can understand why. Keeping and batting at no 3 in Tests is obviously a huge workload for anyone. In fact, I haven't even heard of any keepers who batted in the top 3/4 in Tests. Not to mention only 6 keepers (including Sanga) have averaged 40 or over in Test cricket history (min 20 Tests).

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...ualval1=matches;template=results;type=batting

And even before his peak around 2006 the difference between Sanga the wk/bat and Sanga the pure bat is clearly evident.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...5;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

Averaged close to 60 as a pure bat during that period (excl minnows). Whereas while keeping he averaged 38.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...5;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

 

[Feroz Rawther]

I actually posted that on another thread.





And even before his peak around 2006 the difference between Sanga the wk/bat and Sanga the pure bat is clearly evident.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...5;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

Averaged close to 60 as a pure bat during that period (excl minnows). Whereas while keeping he averaged 38.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...5;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting

i had earlier stated some reasons as to why Sanga's wicket keeping had not much to do with his performance especially in SAF & IND.
In ENG too he came good only in his last series just as Ponting came good against India in India after a series of set backs.other wise can you state the reasons for Sanga avgg only 30 in his 2011 ENG tour as a specialist batsman?

 

[Straight_Drive]

i had earlier stated some reasons as to why Sanga's wicket keeping had not much to do with his performance especially in SAF & IND.
In ENG too he came good only in his last series just as Ponting came good against India in India after a series of set backs.other wise can you state the reasons for Sanga avgg only 30 in his 2011 ENG tour as a specialist batsman?

he also averaged 9 in 2009 series in england )

 

[SL_Fan]

i had earlier stated some reasons as to why Sanga's wicket keeping had not much to do with his performance especially in SAF & IND.
In ENG too he came good only in his last series just as Ponting came good against India in India after a series of set backs.other wise can you state the reasons for Sanga avgg only 30 in his 2011 ENG tour as a specialist batsman?

Sanga has generally struggled in Eng. Not to mention that 2011 tour he only turned up in Eng just days before the first Test. There were some issues with IPL contracts and what not so he missed the practice matches. So that prolly didn't help either.

 

[SL_Fan]

he also averaged 9 in 2009 series in england )

Maybe be in your dreams eh?

 

[Straight_Drive]

Sanga has generally struggled in Eng. Not to mention that 2011 tour he only turned up in Eng just days before the first Test. There were some issues with IPL contracts and what not so he missed the practice matches. So that prolly didn't help either.

Excuses Excuses Excuses...he was wicketkeeper ,he had issue with ipl, he had constipation......if you take x,y,z,w variables out and add a,b,c variables and reduce x no. of matches then he is better than bradman

 

[SL_Fan]

Excuses Excuses Excuses...he was wicketkeeper ,he had issue with ipl, he had constipation......if you take x,y,z,w variables out and add a,b,c variables and reduce x no. of matches then he is better than bradman

Insecurity breeds tomatoes.

 

[Straight_Drive]

Insecurity breeds tomatoes.

you would know...insecure sanga fan....purely as batsman though...not a fan of his keeping

 

[Jo_Don]

So Smith went out of the window and out comes ABDV. lol you are funny.

No, the point is that you can't use keeping as an excuse for poor performances, when other players have shown that it makes no difference. We always see this with the Sanga brigade.

 

[Feroz Rawther]

he also averaged 9 in 2009 series in england )

no...that was vs ENG in SL.w.r.t Sanga's performance in India too Kumble was his main nemesis in first Indian tour.some Lankans are making out as if had he been not WK, he would have averaged convincingly better in that tour. but people having watched Kumble in India know how difficult was it to perform against him. even in his last Indian tour as a specialist Sanga flopped in his first 4 or 5 inns.only in his last inns did he make up for the first failures. i am sure had Kumble been there it would have been much difficult.In SAF he avg:es <40 any way. In WI too there is only 1 test where he keeped in which he flopped(too small sample size for keeper/specialist claim).so over all there is not much to prove that Sanga's keeping affected his non Asian performance bar Zim.

 

[Straight_Drive]

no...that was vs ENG in SL.w.r.t Sanga's performance in India too Kumble was his main nemesis in first Indian tour.some Lankans are making out as if had he been not WK, he would have averaged convincingly better in that tour. but people having watched Kumble in India know how difficult was it to perform against him. even in his last Indian tour as a specialist Sanga flopped in his first 4 or 5 inns.only in his last inns did he make up for the first failures. i am sure had Kumble been there it would have been much difficult.In SAF he avg:es <40 any way. In WI too there is only 1 test where he keeped in which he flopped(too small sample size for keeper/specialist claim).so over all there is not much to prove that Sanga's keeping affected his non Asian performance bar Zim.

oh....that makes it even worse

 

[SL_Fan]

No, the point is that you can't use keeping as an excuse for poor performances, when other players have shown that it makes no difference. We always see this with the Sanga brigade.

How many keepers who have played over 20 Tests ave over 40 btw? As for AB he neither bats in the top order nor keeps to a quality spinner (most difficult task for a spinner). He's has just started to peak as a batsman. And if he didn't keep and batted up the order I'm sure he would have done even better.

 

[SL_Fan]

no...that was vs ENG in SL.w.r.t Sanga's performance in India too Kumble was his main nemesis in first Indian tour.some Lankans are making out as if had he been not WK, he would have averaged convincingly better in that tour. but people having watched Kumble in India know how difficult was it to perform against him. even in his last Indian tour as a specialist Sanga flopped in his first 4 or 5 inns.only in his last inns did he make up for the first failures. i am sure had Kumble been there it would have been much difficult.In SAF he avg:es <40 any way. In WI too there is only 1 test where he keeped in which he flopped(too small sample size for keeper/specialist claim).so over all there is not much to prove that Sanga's keeping affected his non Asian performance bar Zim.

As a wk/bat he didn't even score a 100 outside the SC. What you are saying is partly true but to say there's no difference is clearly incorrect.

 

[cricketjoshila]

How many keepers who have played over 20 Tests ave over 40 btw? As for AB he neither bats in the top order nor keeps to a quality spinner (most difficult task for a spinner). He's has just started to peak as a batsman. And if he didn't keep and batted up the order I'm sure he would have done even better.

More excuses.

Andy Flower

ABDV

Gilly

Are all wk batsmen

 

[Straight_Drive]

oh yes...andy flower how could i forget him....even he is greater than sanga...he averaged 50+ as a keeper i think...if he played purely as a batsman he would have averaged 100+ according to lankan logic

 

[Feroz Rawther]

As a wk/bat he didn't even score a 100 outside the SC. What you are saying is partly true but to say there's no difference is clearly incorrect.

the important point here is just like the 'wicket keeper' claim in favour of Sanga, other reasons like 'learning from experience and coming good only in the end' or 'presence of much calibre bowlers in initial tours' etc can be put against him too. so i am not sure as to how there can be only 'positive difference'

 

[SL_Fan]

More excuses.

Andy Flower

ABDV

Gilly

Are all wk batsmen

And they bat in the top order do they?

 

[cricketjoshila]

And they bat in the top order do they?

Did you watch Andy flower play?

And Gilly was as good as any top order batsman.

 

[Straight_Drive]

And they bat in the top order do they?

ah more EXCUSES

 

[SL_Fan]

Anyway for those of you who don't get the point here it is. Only 6 wk/bats (including Sanga) have averaged over 40 in Test cricket history (min 20 Tests).

 

[SL_Fan]

Did you watch Andy flower play?

And Gilly was as good as any top order batsman.

Did any of them play in the top order? Nope. Also let me put it this way. Should we take Sanga’s or AB’s overall record when talking about them as a wk/bat?

 

[cricketjoshila]

Did any of them play in the top order? Nope. Also let me put it this way. Should we take Sanga’s or AB’s overall record when talking about them as a wk/bat?

Andy flower played in top order.

 

[Straight_Drive]

Andy flower played in top order.

get ready for another excuse...here it comes...

 

[SL_Fan]

Andy flower played in top order.

Really? No 5 is top order now is it?

 

[Feroz Rawther]

Did any of them play in the top order? Nope. Also let me put it this way. Should we take Sanga’s or AB’s overall record when talking about them as a wk/bat?

just bringing Sachin here w.r.t the topic. Sachin has bowled about 12300 balls in international cricket.that is almost 45.5 % of balls Imran khan bowled in his international career.also he would have sweat a lot in the outfield too by chasing balls and throwing them back.taken some 165 catches too. by your logic can't this affect his batting performance too?

 

[Straight_Drive]

just bringing Sachin here w.r.t the topic. Sachin has bowled about 12300 balls in international cricket.that is almost 45.5 % of balls Imran khan bowled in his international career.also he would have sweat a lot in the outfield too by chasing balls and throwing them back.taken some 165 catches too. by your logic can't this affect his batting performance too?

sachin would have averaged 200 if he didn't have to field or bowl...lankan logic

 

[SL_Fan]

just bringing Sachin here w.r.t the topic. Sachin has bowled about 12300 balls in international cricket.that is almost 45.5 % of balls Imran khan bowled in his international career.also he would have sweat a lot in the outfield too by chasing balls and throwing them back.taken some 165 catches too. by your logic can't this affect his batting performance too?

Not sure wth you are on about there. Sachin on average has bowled what less than 5 overs an inning?

 

[Feroz Rawther]

Not sure wth you are on about there. Sachin on average has bowled what less than 5 overs an inning?

are you telling he bowled exactly 5 overs/inns?? there might had been several instances where he didn't bowl at all.similarly there must had been several instances where he bowled a lot or fielded a lot in the out field or both.going by your logic on such occasions Sachin's batting too was affected which resulted in his average getting considerably lower than what it would have been. can't i caim that way?

 

[SL_Fan]

Well if you read my post I said "on average." Any way that's just a pointless discussion really. As if a few overs would affect someone batting at 4.

 

[Jo_Don]

And they bat in the top order do they?

And whose fault is that? I guess the excuse will be the same as that used for Sobers' bowling - "he played according to the team's needs'.

 

[SL_Fan]

And whose fault is that? I guess the excuse will be the same as that used for Sobers' bowling - "he played according to the team's needs'.

Well that's beside the point. Let me ask you this. Honestly speaking, looking at what I've posted of him as a wk/bat and a pure bat, would you agree or disagree that he has done far better without the gloves?

 

[Jo_Don]

Well that's beside the point. Let me ask you this. Honestly speaking, looking at what I've posted of him as a wk/bat and a pure bat, would you agree or disagree that he has done far better without the gloves?

He has, and I rate him very highly He hasn't performed in SA, but all greats are allowed to be off in one country. I just think that people are getting a bit carried away - when we raise the question of EVER, there are some pretty illustrious batsmen that he'd need to surpass.

 

[SL_Fan]

And yes Sobers is another example where overall numbers don't tell the full story. Another one is Ian Chappell. If you look at just his career ave of 42 you would think that he was fairly ordinary. But he was one of the finest no3 bats to play the game (close to 4.5k runs at 51).

 

[SL_Fan]

He has, and I rate him very highly He hasn't performed in SA, but all greats are allowed to be off in one country. I just think that people are getting a bit carried away - when we raise the question of EVER, there are some pretty illustrious batsmen that he'd need to surpass.

Well no arguments there hahaha

 

[Straight_Drive]

And yes Sobers is another example where overall numbers don't tell the full story. Another one is Ian Chappell. If you look at just his career ave of 42 you would think that he was fairly ordinary. But he was one of the finest no3 bats to play the game (close to 4.5k runs at 51).

I am glad you can look past numbers

 

[Electron]

6 pages for this thread !! )

 

[Feroz Rawther]

Well if you read my post I said "on average." Any way that's just a pointless discussion really. As if a few overs would affect someone batting at 4.

no. there are several instances where he bowled at least 8-10 overs.also don't forget all in all he bowled some 2050 overs in addition to ground fielding over the long run.his tennis elbow injury which affected his batting for several years on the trot had its reasons in his bowling too based on your logic. i am not going deep into these. more over i claimed reasons for myself not inclining towards that
keeper/specialist claim for Sanga.any way each to his own.

 

[Feroz Rawther]

Well if you read my post I said "on average." Any way that's just a pointless discussion really. As if a few overs would affect someone batting at 4.

no. there are several instances where he bowled at least 8-10 overs.also don't forget all in all he bowled some 2050 overs in addition to ground fielding over the long run.his tennis elbow injury which affected his batting for several years on the trot had its reasons in his bowling too based on your logic. i am not going deep into these. more over i claimed reasons for myself not inclining towards that
keeper/specialist claim for Sanga.any way each to his own.

 

[rooster]

Is Kumar Sangakkara the greatest left handed batsman in Test Cricket ever?

Okay we cannot manipulate the stats according to some fans here. So can we say he's the all time best wicket keeper batsman the world has ever seen. He's kept close to 50 matches in tests.

 

[Jo_Don]

Okay we cannot manipulate the stats according to some fans here. So can we say he's the all time best wicket keeper batsman the world has ever seen. He's kept close to 50 matches in tests.

Gilchrist and Flower.

 

[rooster]

Gilchrist and Flower.

Gilchrist averages 47 while Sangakkara averages 59. Do your Maths.

 

[Jo_Don]

Gilchrist averages 47 while Sangakkara averages 59. Do your Maths.

And what does Sangakkara average in his 48 tests as keeper? Do your maths.

 

[giri26]

Comparing across eras is a futile exercise. The pitch conditions, bowling, style of play etc are different in different eras. So we cannot say one batsman was better than the others who played in a different generation. Sangakkara is good and has a brilliant record and will end up as one of the greats but again can we say he is the best? We cannot do that. If you look at the 90's an era when a batting average of 50 in tests was considered as an elite group...we had only 3 batsmen who were part of the group. Lara was one of them, there is no evidence to suggest that Lara would not have been as successful as Sangakkara if he had debuted after 2000 and also we cannot prove that Sanga would not have been as successful as Lara if he had played in the 90's.

So you see where the problem is when you call someone the best of all time? The conditions in which Gary Sobers or David Gower or any of the other great left handers played can never be replicated to see if Sanga would have been more successful during that time against the bowling and pitch conditions in which those past players played. Sanga has done well and that's where it should end. Stats can only prove that much....You cannot say that Sanga is a better left handed batsman compared to Lara because the pitch conditions, bowlers and every thing was different. Even when you consider someone like a David Gower, you cannot say just based on the difference in average that Sanga is better batsman than him.

Only Bradman qualifies as the best batsman of all time because of his freakish average which has been very hard to replicate in any era. Other than that every other batsman fall in the same category. we can only define greatness by eras not across different eras. It is a futile exercise, you can never prove one batsman was the best player across eras unless we have a time machine.

 

[rooster]

And what does Sangakkara average in his 48 tests as keeper? Do your maths.

So now you want to trim those matches? I know I have asked a stupid question but why can't you understand that keeping for 100+ overs and coming into bat at no.3 is as tough as anything in cricket.

I'll definitely spit in my own face if I ever say Sangakkara is the best in the business. But you cannot dismiss the fact that he's been brilliant ever since he stopped keeping wickets in tests.

 

[Jo_Don]

So now you want to trim those matches? I know I have asked a stupid question but why can't you understand that keeping for 100+ overs and coming into bat at no.3 is as tough as anything in cricket.

I'll definitely spit in my own face if I ever say Sangakkara is the best in the business. But you cannot dismiss the fact that he's been brilliant ever since he stopped keeping wickets in tests.

Who said he wasn't good since he stopped keeping wickets? The fact that he batted at 3 is nobody else's fault.

You were the one who automatically introduced a filter by saying that he was the best keeper batsman, but he cannot be labelled as such in matches where he didn't keep. As a keeper/batsman, his job is to bat and keep. As a batsman, his job is to bat, irrespective of whether he keeps or not. This thread is about him as a batsman - and that includes matches where he kept wicket. You need to learn the difference.

 

[rooster]

Common guys everybody knows he's not the greatest left handed batsmen in Test cricket. Let's stop this.

 

[Straight_Drive]

Common guys everybody knows he's not the greatest left handed batsmen in Test cricket. Let's stop this.

then why has this thread gone for 6 pages....we argue around in circles...everybody accepts he is great but then a new poster comes and posts his stats as pure batsman and what not...then others are compelled to reply...it would be better if this thread is closed

 

[rooster]

then why has this thread gone for 6 pages....we argue around in circles...everybody accepts he is great but then a new poster comes and posts his stats as pure batsman and what not...then others are compelled to reply...it would be better if this thread is closed

True that. Even the title reads so stupid tbh. Even Sangakkara will laugh his a** of when he comes across this statement.

 

[Buffet]

Who said he wasn't good since he stopped keeping wickets? The fact that he batted at 3 is nobody else's fault.

You were the one who automatically introduced a filter by saying that he was the best keeper batsman, but he cannot be labelled as such in matches where he didn't keep. As a keeper/batsman, his job is to bat and keep. As a batsman, his job is to bat, irrespective of whether he keeps or not. This thread is about him as a batsman - and that includes matches where he kept wicket. You need to learn the difference.

To add here. Most gun batsmen get better with time. Very few batsmen are better in their early 20s. That's the norm.

While keeping and batting is surely tough, it's not right to use that as sole reason for him not doing so great in earlier period.

 

[MarkCooper]

No, the greatest left hander of all time is me.

 

[rooster]

To add here. Most gun batsmen get better with time. Very few batsmen are better in their early 20s. That's the norm.

While keeping and batting is surely tough, it's not right to use that as sole reason for him not doing so great in earlier period.

Ah not again. I'm gonna pretend I didn't see your reply.

 

[rooster]

No, the greatest left hander of all time is me.

Well that puts an end to it.

 

[Thivagar]

bump

 

[McGarrett]

most runs in a calendar year across all format

Another record by the greatest batsman after Don.

KC Sangakkara (SL) -2835*
RT Ponting (Aus/ICC) - 2833
RT Ponting (Aus) -2657
R Dravid (India) -2626
KC Sangakkara (SL) -2609
SC Ganguly (India) -2580
TM Dilshan (SL) -2568
AD Mathews (SL) -2551
SR Tendulkar (India) -2541
ST Jayasuriya (SL) -2449
KC Sangakkara (SL) -2436

 

[Abdullah]

Shame he will retire soon- could play test cricket for another 4-5 years-he is that good- and tendulkars record would be gone- in about 20 less test matches

 

[Electron]

Not yet.

 

[desi_launda]

most runs in a calendar year across all format

Another record by the greatest batsman after Don.

KC Sangakkara (SL) -2835*
RT Ponting (Aus/ICC) - 2833
RT Ponting (Aus) -2657
R Dravid (India) -2626
KC Sangakkara (SL) -2609
SC Ganguly (India) -2580
TM Dilshan (SL) -2568
AD Mathews (SL) -2551
SR Tendulkar (India) -2541
ST Jayasuriya (SL) -2449
KC Sangakkara (SL) -2436

banglabully :

 

[Hitman]

Please don't insult the great Garry Sobers by comparing him with Sangakkara. Sobers is not only the greatest left hander, he is the greatest batsman after Bradman.

 

[anuk]

its credit to sanga that he doesnt want to hijack the team in his own search for pointless personal records. classy batsman and an even classier human being

 

[biggestdravidfan]

Never in a billion years can he go past the Prince of Trinidad.

 

[Robert]

1. Time it from ball 1
2. Hold your own when the going gets tough (In foreign conditions - I mean it in a different way other than stats (I am referring to play and miss/ fishing outside off etc; something to do with technique)
3. Mental Strength (Against Sledging etc)
4. Have an all round game (dominant on all sides of the pitch + tempo of innings)
5. Decent Stats

Going a little off topic now, I believe that batsman who hold their own in a hostile fast bowling spell + time it perfectly from ball one are more deserving of applause than cricketers with boasted stats and lacking the former attributes. Stats are a decent metric but not the end of the world when it comes to gauging better players. They only give part of the story and can be sometimes extremely misleading. For instance lets take an example, Mark Ramprakash and Nick Knight (Both I think have represented England) have one of the most outstanding stats I've ever seen in county cricket, not so knight but Ramprakash was a domestic beast. According to the numbers Mark Ramprakash should have been the next Bradman but sadly enough he only represented England in a handful of games and never got his international career going. Why do you think that happened, because Ramprakash had only #5 attribute (from the above list) in his armory and as soon as he was thrown into international cricket, where the other four attributes are needed he couldn't translate that domestic performance into real test/ODI figures. On the contrary, Alec Stewart who has decent stats in English county was a much better clutch player for me than Ramprakash even though he himself extremely lacked #1 and #4.

I beg to differ that Ramps played just a handful of games. He played fifty tests. I think his problem was that he couldn't stay in The Zone - couldn't silence the negative inner voices often enough when he has the England shirt on.

Stewart on the other had was, in my view, one of the great English postwar opening batsmen. He averaged 46 in that role while facing Marshall, Walsh, Ambrose, Waqar and Wasim. England really messed him up by making him keep wicket, even though he eventually made himself into a very fine keeper.

 

[Cricfan4eva]

KS is a stats monster, like Kallis.

 

[McGarrett]

Where you at, let me guess you one of those FOB broke Singhalese Sri Lankans that live in Narre Warren or Footscray ? .. Put it this way I guarantee you it wont smell like a Greasy Kothu Rotti

How silly one has to be to threaten someone on an online forum. ''Holly Cow'' That explains it all. )

 

[spiderreddy]

most runs in a calendar year across all format



KC Sangakkara (SL) -2835*, avg - 55.25,S/R -67
RT Ponting (Aus/ICC) - 2833,avg - 56.66,S/R -71
RT Ponting (Aus) -2657,avg - 66.42,S/R -68
R Dravid (India) -2626,avg - 46.89,S/R -60
KC Sangakkara (SL) -2609,avg - 52.18,S/R -68
SC Ganguly (India) -2580,avg - 48,S/R -65
TM Dilshan (SL) -2568,avg - 55.82,S/R -97.67
AD Mathews (SL) -2551,avg - 67.13,S/R -65.35
SR Tendulkar (India) -2541,avg -68.67,S/R -93.69
ST Jayasuriya (SL) -2449,avg - 58.09,S/R -82
KC Sangakkara (SL) -2436,avg - 44.29,S/R -71

best batsman after the don

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

most runs in a calendar year across all format



KC Sangakkara (SL) -2835*, avg - 55.25,S/R -67
RT Ponting (Aus/ICC) - 2833,avg - 56.66,S/R -71
RT Ponting (Aus) -2657,avg - 66.42,S/R -68
R Dravid (India) -2626,avg - 46.89,S/R -60
KC Sangakkara (SL) -2609,avg - 52.18,S/R -68
SC Ganguly (India) -2580,avg - 48,S/R -65
TM Dilshan (SL) -2568,avg - 55.82,S/R -97.67
AD Mathews (SL) -2551,avg - 67.13,S/R -65.35
SR Tendulkar (India) -2541,avg -68.67,S/R -93.69
ST Jayasuriya (SL) -2449,avg - 58.09,S/R -82
KC Sangakkara (SL) -2436,avg - 44.29,S/R -71

best batsman after the don

Sachu towering over everyone with avg, SR combo.

Legendary.

But don't take these kind of stats way too seriously as if they mean everything but good response to someone who instead of praising Sanga had to take a dig at a poor midget .

 

[Romali_rotti]

How silly one has to be to threaten someone on an online forum. ''Holly Cow'' That explains it all. )

Threaten ? I am just making you a promise

 

[Thivagar]

Never in a billion years can he go past the Prince of Trinidad.

Sanga has better stats than prince of Trinidad. You can't compare both batsmen, one is aggressive and attacking, while the other one finds the gap, and etc. When did you start watching cricket ?

 

[McGarrett]

Sanga has better stats than prince of Trinidad. You can't compare both batsmen, one is aggressive and attacking, while the other one finds the gap, and etc. When did you start watching cricket ?

And hit some useless centuries

 

[Sakss]

11 double hundreds.... Only second to Bradman who has 12..


What a player this guy is

 

[Saqs]

He will never be as celebrated as the Laras and Sachins. Unfairly so.

 

[Electron]

Great innings, but let's not get carried away.

 

[Snow]

Best left handed batsman from sub-cont for sure.

 

[soso_killer]

I'm one of his biggest critic but I'm willing to put myy hand up and admitt he played a clutch inning(s) today.
But I'm still of the opinion that the have been better match winners and batsmen.

 

[leatherface58]

Epic knock today. Respect where it's due.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I'm one of his biggest critic but I'm willing to put myy hand up and admitt he played a clutch inning(s) today.
But I'm still of the opinion that the have been better match winners and batsmen.

This is your problem, you are nothing but a sour grape.. Regardless if Sri Lanka lose this match it doesnt take anything away from this 200 he made. Life is all rosey sunshine when you have match winning bowlers and good to great overall batsmen in your side however you have to respect the player who scores from the other side more as he plays with an inferior support cast than a SA or Australia and the umpires who come to the rescue of you lot.

 

[Itachi]

sobers >>>>> sanga. so no, sanga isn't an ATG. he just makes soft runs.

 

[Buffet]

sobers >>>>> sanga. so no, sanga isn't an ATG.

Does ATG can have only Sobers or for that matter only 10-15 batsmen?

Sobers or some other ATG being better than Sanga doesn't mean than Sanga can't be an ATG.

 

[Strike Rate]

sobers >>>>> sanga. so no, sanga isn't an ATG. he just makes soft runs.

I think you guys are missing a prince with the name Lara

 

[Junaids]

sobers >>>>> sanga. so no, sanga isn't an ATG. he just makes soft runs.

Can there only be one all-time great?

I'm inclined to think that Sangakkara is probably the third best left-hander of all time behind Garry Sobers and Graeme Pollock.

I would add that better right-handers are probably Don Bradman and George Headley and Viv Richards.

That would mean that Sangakkara would be the first batsman since Viv Richards to get into the all-time top ten.