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The Misbah-ul-Haq Captaincy Analysis Thread

Cpt. Rishwat said:
Hafeez might have got smashed as well, spinners are a risk at the death. The mistake was putting Wahab in the starting line up. He always gives at least one over where he gets smashed for 14-18 runs because he has no accuracy.
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but you can't judge the situation of match at the start.. so selection was already done and dusted.. time was to react on that situation.. wahab's wayward bowling probability is always expected to be on the higher side as compare to Hafeez who bowls wicket to wicket and specially today he bowled really well..
 
I think Misbah is an average captain, neither good nor bad. But I don't get two things when it comes to final eleven.

- Why Pakistan plays with 6 bowlers when batting is so weak?

- How come some young players get dropped after 2-3 failures? Junaid is very good bowler but he sat out in first two matches.
 
Buffet said:
I think Misbah is an average captain, neither good nor bad. But I don't get two things when it comes to final eleven.

- Why Pakistan plays with 6 bowlers when batting is so weak?

- How come some young players get dropped after 2-3 failures? Junaid is very good bowler but he sat out in first two matches.
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These are questions or answers ?

I think Misbah and Hafeez have answers to all of your questions !

Ask Misbah about his shortcomings and he will say , "ball was not really coming onto the bat"

Ask Hafeez about Pakistan's poor showing and he will reply , "because we are not playing cricket at home"
 
the second the ball went to wahab riaz for the last over the game was lost.



anybody who has a clue about pakistan cricket knows wahab riaz and knows where that was going to end up.



dont give me crap about the risks of bowling spin at death. rubbish. wahab could bowl that over 10 times and we would be here talking about this same lost game at least 8 out of the 10 times.





u guys thinking that misbah isnt responsible for this dont have a clue. not , a , clue.
 
Oh plz lets stop the wrist slitting..we didnt lose..end of..wahab bowled a crap over..it happens..im encouraged..felt there were some positives..more than the last game..
 
waqar goraya said:
These are questions or answers ?

I think Misbah and Hafeez have answers to all of your questions !

Ask Misbah about his shortcomings and he will say , "ball was not really coming onto the bat"

Ask Hafeez about Pakistan's poor showing and he will reply , "because we are not playing cricket at home"
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Simple questions!

I don't know if it is lack of communication skills or something else. Even today, Misbah was saying that pitch was not a good one to bat when Simmons was saying it was a good batting pitch. I thought pitch was very good for batting.

Team management should try to simply fix the weakest part of the team and that is batting. It's true that you should play with your strengths but 6 bowlers are stretching it. Many teams play with 4 if they bank on batting. Pakistan should play with 5 bowlers because they bank on bowling.

Also dropping a fine bowler like Junaid after not so good performance in CT(only 3 matches) is puzzling when so many mediocre batsmen keep playing in this team. Also, he thinks that if bowlers can't restrict opposition within 200 then they didn't do a good job. That's unrealistic. I haven't heard him say that but that's just my impression.
 
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Junaid's exclusion raised many eyebrows.

But with Umar Akmal as wicket-keeper they can strengthen their bowling .

Have not you seen Dhoni going with 7 batsmen many times despite his weak bowling strength because he knows he does not has suitable options as bowlers. He knows he would be better in including a quality batsman than another pathetic bowler. So, basically he does not want to compromise on his strength (batting).

Similarly, Pakistan go with their strength which is bowling because they are well aware of the fact that a single weak link in bowling can disturb the whole bowling attack, they feel that a batsman at the expense of a bowler won't strengthen their batting as much as it would weaken their bowling strength . Another mediocre batsman in this line-up can hardly make a difference.

This is the only positive thing in their strategy that they are playing at their strength which I think is a rare positivity in their planning process.

We need a specialist all-rounder to get it right .
 
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waqar goraya said:
These are questions or answers ?

I think Misbah and Hafeez have answers to all of your questions !

Ask Misbah about his shortcomings and he will say , "ball was not really coming onto the bat"

Ask Hafeez about Pakistan's poor showing and he will reply , "because we are not playing cricket at home"
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I agree these are the answers in repeat mode

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waqar goraya said:
Have not you seen Dhoni going with 7 batsmen many times despite his weak bowling strength because he knows he does not has suitable options as bowlers. He knows he would be better in including a quality batsman than another pathetic bowler. So, basically he does not want to compromise on his strength (batting).

Similarly, Pakistan go with their strength which is bowling because they are well aware of the fact that a single weak link in bowling can disturb the whole bowling attack, they feel that a batsman at the expense of a bowler won't strengthen their batting as much as it would weaken their bowling strength . Another mediocre batsman in this line-up can hardly make a difference.
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But you need to bowl only 50 overs. Strong batting sides take 4 bowlers and try to use part time ones for 10 overs. I would think that for a strong bowling side, 5 bowlers and few overs from part timers are enough to play with strengths.

ODI is heavily favored towards batsmen. 6 bowlers means, you are wasting one spot. It's not same as 7 batsmen because everyone bats but not everyone bowls or even need to bowl. If 5 full time bowlers with few part timers can't bowl 50 overs then there is problem with bowling unit.

It will be interesting to see how cheaply Pakistan's bowling unit have taken wickets when compared to other bowling units who don't play with 6 bowlers. If gap is not too much then 6 bowlers are not really adding much value. 5 of them will do just fine.
 
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I'm in the 5 bowlers plus a part time bowler camp myself.

Wahab or afridi to be dropped for a batter depending on whether it's a spinning or seaming track
 
MR__KHAN__JI said:
I'm in the 5 bowlers plus a part time bowler camp myself.
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OK, Let's see how much value value 6 bowlers are adding here.

I took only top 8 teams and last 3 years. Since weak batting sides will put less scores when batting first , opposition will play according to score rather than trying their best to get maximum total. So, I took only bowling first scenario here to keep comparison bit more fair for all bowling units.

How cheaply each bowling unit took wickets?


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How Stingy each bowling units was?

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Team has very mixed results. Pakistan has been as stingy as SA,AUS etc but they have been second last in picking up wickets. No , other team uses 6 bowlers but Pakistan hasn't been hitting the ball out of park with 6 bowlers either.

I think this 6 bowlers is not really adding too much value here. 5 Bowlers and few overs from part timers are enough to cover 50 overs for a side which depends on bowling. 6 bowlers are over kill and it is not even adding much value.
 
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The problem is lack of resources.

Hafeez plays as a batsman but infact he is a better ODI bowler than a batsman.

Afridi plays as an all-rounder but he is way too inconsistent with bat or ball .

On paper we are going with 4 specialist bowlers and with 2 all-rounders, which is a right combination but with the incompetence of our all-rounders it leaves our batting thin.

Usually all-rounders balance a one day side but our incompetent all-rounders imbalance the team combination.
 
Umar akmal at 3 needs to happen!

Would take a gamble and let afridi bat at 4 for the next 2 matches with hafeez coming in Afridis place. Misbah back to his favourite 5 (but if akmal and Afridi do well and we are in a strong position then harris sohail in at 5)
 
This is poor from Misbah. Electing to bowl on a beauty of a batting track and then keeping Hafeez going even after Smith has departed.
 
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He bowls first to utilize the moisture and then doesn't open with Junaid Khan :facepalm:
Rubbish captaincy.
Some people though he is better than Imran Khan at captaincy :facepalm:
 
Yeah I'm lost, wonder how the Brotherhood of Misbah will explain this move. I agree with giving prof one over against smith but 5? Especially when you have Junaid in the team ....
 
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What is he doing ?
Getting Junaid to bowl defensively when he knows Junaid is a wicket taking bowler not someone who's going to stop the run flow .
 
Misbah captaincy effect...............

Average and S/R of all these batsmen (except Umar's Ave) went DOWN under Misbah - as compared to Afridi.


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Great stats WL. Misbah the the opposite of LeBron James. He makes everyone around him bad. The only guy who was increasing his average was dropped. Big surprise.
 
Even ....an average fan knows ...what's the common sense thing to do.

Wasiq: "Misbah should bring back Irfan for couple because Gayle hasn't been comfortable facing him. Even Samuels had struggled so two hours might bring a wicket for Pak."
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10+ overs.... and Gayle is allowed to come back in form by over bowling Wahab ...and Hafeez.
 
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Awful captaincy, still not learning his lesson from yesterday in regards to Riaz's feild placing, Whatmore seemed pretty ****** by that.

Similarly while I understood the reasons behind bowling first why did he give Hafeez more than one over :facepalm: it's completely absurd


As normal he puts the field back when 2 new batsman come on
 
Does he believe in anything called confidence? Will? Faith? Why he over calculate things?
I am pretty sure he will destroy even the likes of Virat Kohli , Shikar Dhawan ,Joe Root if they allowed to played under his captaincy.
 
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I know Lala is perhaps the most luckiest player to play for Pak , but he is the only person who can lead these bunch of jokers currently.
 
Dreadful captaincy today. Deciding to chase in itself was a bad decision but then how he proceeded after that was even worse
 
i'm not a misbah hater, but today, totally dissapointed by the lack of overs management. i posted this in match thread, but no misbah lover responded.

why did he not let hafeez and junaid bowl full 10 over quota??

why did he bowl afridi-wahab combo for 12 overs, when they needed to bowl 9 total in this 49 over game??

why did he bring wahab back for strange 1 over spell when he had enough junaid overs left at that point??

those blaming all bowlers, i dont think its all bowlers, its couple of them and (1 or 2 bad overs from irfan) rest were good, but not managed to their quota right. if hafeez had bowled couple more instead of afridi, and junaid bowled instead of that strange wahab 1 over spell around 41st over, we could have been looking at 240 instead of 260+.
 
mon858 said:
i'm not a misbah hater, but today, totally dissapointed by the lack of overs management. i posted this in match thread, but no misbah lover responded.

why did he not let hafeez and junaid bowl full 10 over quota??

why did he bowl afridi-wahab combo for 12 overs, when they needed to bowl 9 total in this 49 over game??

why did he bring wahab back for strange 1 over spell when he had enough junaid overs left at that point??

those blaming all bowlers, i dont think its all bowlers, its couple of them and (1 or 2 bad overs from irfan) rest were good, but not managed to their quota right. if hafeez had bowled couple more instead of afridi, and junaid bowled instead of that strange wahab 1 over spell around 41st over, we could have been looking at 240 instead of 260+.
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Painful to read above.

Can you pls use capital letters at start of sentences?
 
So rain coming up..... 20th over coming up.... for the match to be complete..... and to get ahead of RR with D/L method (20 runs in 3 overs needed) .... Misbah comes to BAT himself ..instead of Afridi or Umar Akmal! :14:
 
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HamzaSaeen said:
Probably the worst captain in the history of Pakistan cricket, Misbah.
and people compare him to Imran :facepalm:
will struggle to find a captain worse than him
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Mohammed Yousuf says hello
 
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So rain coming up..... 20th over coming up.... for the match to be complete..... and to get ahead of RR with D/L method (20 runs in 3 overs needed) .... Misbah comes to BAT himself ..instead of Afridi or Umar Akmal! :14:
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Yes, I see.
 
W63L35 said:
So rain coming up..... 20th over coming up.... for the match to be complete..... and to get ahead of RR with D/L method (20 runs in 3 overs needed) .... Misbah comes to BAT himself ..instead of Afridi or Umar Akmal! :14:
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Do you have an excel table to show what happened next?
 
Inziquicksingle said:
Delusion is the common denominating factor for Misbots.

Meanwhile Pakistan are ranked 6th in ODIs and barely 5th in Tests. This is what Captain fantastic has achieved since he took over.

Based on this he has attained "legend" status among Misbots LOL :)))
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years on and We are still ranked 6th in ODIs and thanks to Australia we move one place up in tests..so much for captain fantastic:yk...great achievments we are still there where he started from..
 
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They go even as far as comparing him to Imran Khan.

Surely the worst ever that has captained in the last 15 years
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You sure? Who was the captain when we lost to Ireland?
 
This guy is a total and utter abject failure. His whole demeanour is that of a loser.
 
Admits to the blunder he made today...........


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he batted first on that pitch, he must be crazy. Majority of his haters dislike him because his awful captaincy
 
Why are we persisting with a 39 year old captain who will never improve? I wouldn't mind if a 27 year old was doing this as he will improve. Misbah will not and he's stuck in the last decade.
 
Saviour of Pakistan Cricket, a true saint who puts his nation first. Better than Imran Khan, better than Genghis Khan. We could not score 50 runs without him
 
Playing Hafeez for three years in a row as a Test opener is the worst selection decision ever by a captain.

Misbah-ul-Haq has to take resposibility for it.
 
stop the press, he is striking at 50, 2 (4)

legend


But no honestly for Pakistans sake i hope he doesnt flunk it while batting today. I wont be able to take a loss to the zimbos
 
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Hafeez to take over. ...

Mission complete
 
It's a case of the pitch suiting Misbah's captaincy style, rather than the opposite.
 
Made complete sense to take the new ball imo. I havent watched the match yet so am making this comment based on following on cricinfo.
 
The guy leads the team to bringing the number 1 team down to 240 odd for 8 on the first day of a test match in the freaking UAE and there are still criticisms out there. The people who say a country like Pakistan doesn't deserve Misbah are right.
 
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