The Moment of Truth is Here: Zaid Hamid is ready for War

[KingKhanWC]

^ Aah Momo Sahab is back for another round.

If you watch the two videos of him on Russia Today he speaks a lot of sense. Exactly what in those videos don't you agree with?

ZH is patriotic Pakistani who has fought in Afghanistan to help liberate the Afghans from Soviet Occupation, that makes him a lion in many peoples books. Exactly what you have done in your life Momo which can come close to this? Spending most of your life in Bollywood land doesn't I'm afraid.

 

[Namak_Halaal]

If one believes ZH is a crazy heretic, then ask yourself this, why does he get so much airtime?

 

[KingKhanWC]

NH, it's an easy way to attack rather than argue his points. I don't agree with everything he says but the majority of things he does say are said by all kinds of political commentators.

I challenged Momo to simply point out the points in the last two RT videos which he think are crazy, well by logic a crazy man would say crazy things but no response from Momo.

 

[Lala-Afridi]

If one believes ZH is a crazy heretic, then ask yourself this, why does he get so much airtime?

people like clowns

 

[DW44]

If one believes ZH is a crazy heretic, then ask yourself this, why does he get so much airtime?

I often find myself wondering exactly that. How (and why, dear God why?) does an ass clown (and not just any ass clown, they had to come up with a whole new level of ass clowns, named after him) like Zaid Hamid get so much airtime?

 

[Garuda]

I often find myself wondering exactly that. How (and why, dear God why?) does an ass clown (and not just any ass clown, they had to come up with a whole new level of ass clowns, named after him) like Zaid Hamid get so much airtime?

I feel he has a right to put his view as his views would match with a section of people too. As small as it can be.

But like yourself, I also get the surprised to see the amount of time media gives him airtime.
As a responsible media, they need to restrict these kind of extreme views to a limit.

 

[Namak_Halaal]

I often find myself wondering exactly that. How (and why, dear God why?) does an ass clown (and not just any ass clown, they had to come up with a whole new level of ass clowns, named after him) like Zaid Hamid get so much airtime?

It’s very simple psychoanalysis.

You see, the reason why ZH gets all this air time is because we want to hear him! Might sound obvious but deep down it’s because his views are echoed by the majority of Pakistanis, who let’s face it, don’t have the sand to speak publically about it because they have to masquerade and protect an image.

I’m with KKWC on this, ZH might not be everyone’s cup of tea but his views resonate with the majority.

 

[Ascension]

It’s very simple psychoanalysis.

You see, the reason why ZH gets all this air time is because we want to hear him! Might sound obvious but deep down it’s because his views are echoed by the majority of Pakistanis, who let’s face it, don’t have the sand to speak publically about it because they have to masquerade and protect an image.

I’m with KKWC on this, ZH might not be everyone’s cup of tea but his views resonate with the majority.

So you're telling me that majority of Pakistanis want to take over India and force Hindus to embrace Islam or suffer death?

I bet if Zaid Hamid wants to take over Amreeka, can you say majority of Pakistanis want to take over the West and impose its way of life on them?

 

[youboy]

So you're telling me that majority of Pakistanis want to take over India and force Hindus to embrace Islam or suffer death?

I bet if Zaid Hamid wants to take over Amreeka, can you say majority of Pakistanis want to take over the West and impose its way of life on them?

If you listen to ZH properly my friend. He is not saying we will attack India and take over it and force conversion of Hindus or any other religion. (There is no such concept of force conversion in Islam. Each and every person is allowed to follow his religion). Plus he says it will be India who will wage & force war on Pakistan and Pakistan will only reply to it. Suffering death to not the general people only to the people fighting. If you read Islam it has the biggest example for general pardon that is the true Islam.

Plus i don't think Zaid Hamid will want to take over America, Americans are the most innocent people who are being manipulated by few thousand zionists. Their army is being used to kill hundreds of thousands innocent people all over the world. Go on you tube and listen to an American presedential candidate Ron Paul (he is an American). Watch documentaries of Michael Moore (also an American) movies names Sicko, Capitalism: A Love Story, Fahrenheit 9/11 etc.

 

[smoothcriminal]

If you listen to ZH properly my friend. He is not saying we will attack India and take over it and force conversion of Hindus or any other religion. (There is no such concept of force conversion in Islam. Each and every person is allowed to follow his religion). Plus he says it will be India who will wage & force war on Pakistan and Pakistan will only reply to it. Suffering death to not the general people only to the people fighting. If you read Islam it has the biggest example for general pardon that is the true Islam.

Plus i don't think Zaid Hamid will want to take over America, Americans are the most innocent people who are being manipulated by few thousand zionists. Their army is being used to kill hundreds of thousands innocent people all over the world. Go on you tube and listen to an American presedential candidate Ron Paul (he is an American). Watch documentaries of Michael Moore (also an American) movies names Sicko, Capitalism: A Love Story, Fahrenheit 9/11 etc.

Yes definitely history shows India to have done that.

1948: I am not going to get into the exact details of when the document was signed by the Kashmir lord, but we did send forced to "liberate" Kashmir. I dont support India for what they have done in Kashmir for the record.

1965: Operation Grandslam and Gibralter were BOTH Pakistan initiatives to take back Kashmir. Yes, India's response on International borders was not expected by Pakistan, but the "panga" was initiated by us.

1971: They capitalized on our own mess and saw an opportunity when East Pakistan and the Mukhti Bahini openly advocated for their help. Again, WRONG of them to do but given how we treated Bengalis, we had it coming.

1984: Operation Meghdoot by India can be seen as the only LEGITIMATE intrusion(Siachin) that was initiated by India(arguably).

Do not even want to get into Kargil.

India's involvement in Balochistan?- The day a member of ISPR/media/politician/bureaucrat/ shows a LEGITIMATE link and the federal government and the army unanimously release evidence or accuse India of aiding operations in Balochistan, i will be convinced.

Till then, it is all verbal nuisance. I cannot think of anything that promotes our interests or vindicates us more in our stance than if Indian intrusion of Balochistan were SIGNIFICANTLY proven.

Till now, the maximum official claims we have ironically are diplomatic cables in wikileaks in which 2 American diplomats believed that there MIGHT be Indian intrusion in Balochistan.





Stop this Indian paranoia. They are here to stay and they have left us far behind. Our GDP right now is below 3% and theirs is above 10%.

They dont needs wars to cripple our economy or become better than us. We are an imploding nation that handles its foreign policy with a loaded pistol on its head threatening to implode in exchange for geting aid. I hate that it has become that. I know you hate that it has become that. But that is the reality.

 

[youboy]

Yes definitely history shows India to have done that.

1948: I am not going to get into the exact details of when the document was signed by the Kashmir lord, but we did send forced to "liberate" Kashmir. I dont support India for what they have done in Kashmir for the record.

1965: Operation Grandslam and Gibralter were BOTH Pakistan initiatives to take back Kashmir. Yes, India's response on International borders was not expected by Pakistan, but the "panga" was initiated by us.

1971: They capitalized on our own mess and saw an opportunity when East Pakistan and the Mukhti Bahini openly advocated for their help. Again, WRONG of them to do but given how we treated Bengalis, we had it coming.

1984: Operation Meghdoot by India can be seen as the only LEGITIMATE intrusion(Siachin) that was initiated by India(arguably).

Do not even want to get into Kargil.

India's involvement in Balochistan?- The day a member of ISPR/media/politician/bureaucrat/ shows a LEGITIMATE link and the federal government and the army unanimously release evidence or accuse India of aiding operations in Balochistan, i will be convinced.

Till then, it is all verbal nuisance. I cannot think of anything that promotes our interests or vindicates us more in our stance than if Indian intrusion of Balochistan were SIGNIFICANTLY proven.

Till now, the maximum official claims we have ironically are diplomatic cables in wikileaks in which 2 American diplomats believed that there MIGHT be Indian intrusion in Balochistan.





Stop this Indian paranoia. They are here to stay and they have left us far behind. Our GDP right now is below 3% and theirs is above 10%.

They dont needs wars to cripple our economy or become better than us. We are an imploding nation that handles its foreign policy with a loaded pistol on its head threatening to implode in exchange for geting aid. I hate that it has become that. I know you hate that it has become that. But that is the reality.

My friend i am not saying you should agree to me or Zaid Sahab. I will speak what is my opinion and you speak what is yours. Don't ask me to keep my mouth & eyes shut and make fun of an individual (this is why this thread has been opened) and you called yourself civilized educated people.

Muslims capturing Hind is taken from hadith so being a Muslim I believe what my Allah and my Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. have taught. I will emphasize on that it will be Muslims (not specifically only Pakistanis).

Also you will get all your other answers very soon in the coming time. Just be prepared.

 

[Ace Base]

Watch out India and Israel; here we "come".


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Akhi, if you don't mind please could you tell me who this man is? I have a very specific reason for asking. I looked him up on Google but there isn't much I could gather.

JazaakAllah Kahirun.

 

[youboy]

Akhi, if you don't mind please could you tell me who this man is? I have a very specific reason for asking. I looked him up on Google but there isn't much I could gather.

JazaakAllah Kahirun.

Here you go brother all the details are here

http://www.zaidhamid.pk/

http://brasstacks-media.blogspot.com/

http://www.facebook.com/syedzaidzamanhamid?sk=wall

http://www.youtube.com/user/BrassTacksOfficial/videos

 

[kraken]

My friend i am not saying you should agree to me or Zaid Sahab. I will speak what is my opinion and you speak what is yours. Don't ask me to keep my mouth & eyes shut and make fun of an individual (this is why this thread has been opened) and you called yourself civilized educated people.

Muslims capturing Hind is taken from hadith so being a Muslim I believe what my Allah and my Prophet Muhammad S.A.W. have taught. I will emphasize on that it will be Muslims (not specifically only Pakistanis).

Also you will get all your other answers very soon in the coming time. Just be prepared.

Please provide the Sahih Hadith references.

 

[youboy]

Please provide the Sahih Hadith references.

http://ghazwatulhind.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/hadith-of-ghazwatuhind-with-references/

A great answer by Sheikh Imran Hossein. A muslim army (mujahedin) not only Pakistani

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t87o1Y3Uug0

So what ZH is explaining and teaching is to go forward to make the Pakistan as Islamic state and the army of mujhadin, it is not possible under the current government and peoples frame of mind so a change has to be brought as an individual and collectively. We have to hold the rope of Allah strongly and become a proper Muslim.

"Alama Iqbal"

Tere Amal Se Hai Tera Pareshaan H0na..
Warna Mushkil Nahi Mushkil Aasaan H0na..
Poore Aalam Par Huk0mat Ho Teri A Muslim..
Tu Sumajh... Jaye Agar Apna MUSALMAN Hona

I will again emphasize I will speak what is my opinion and you speak what is yours. Don't ask me to keep my mouth & eyes shut.

 

[Ace Base]

Here you go brother all the details are here

http://www.zaidhamid.pk/

http://brasstacks-media.blogspot.com/

http://www.facebook.com/syedzaidzamanhamid?sk=wall

http://www.youtube.com/user/BrassTacksOfficial/videos

Thank you my brother but I googled his name and those came up and I have looked at them.

However, I want to know from you who he is.

As I said, I have a very, very specific reason for asking albeit one that I cannot divulge on here.

 

[smoothcriminal]

http://ghazwatulhind.wordpress.com/2010/08/09/hadith-of-ghazwatuhind-with-references/

A great answer by Sheikh Imran Hossein. A muslim army (mujahedin) not only Pakistani

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t87o1Y3Uug0

So what ZH is explaining and teaching is to go forward to make the Pakistan as Islamic state and the army of mujhadin, it is not possible under the current government and peoples frame of mind so a change has to be brought as an individual and collectively. We have to hold the rope of Allah strongly and become a proper Muslim.

"Alama Iqbal"

Tere Amal Se Hai Tera Pareshaan H0na..
Warna Mushkil Nahi Mushkil Aasaan H0na..
Poore Aalam Par Huk0mat Ho Teri A Muslim..
Tu Sumajh... Jaye Agar Apna MUSALMAN Hona

I will again emphasize I will speak what is my opinion and you speak what is yours. Don't ask me to keep my mouth & eyes shut.

Okay, then what is your response to THIS section in Allama Iqbal's Allahabad address.

"Nor should the Hindus fear that the creation of autonomous Muslim states will mean the introduction of a kind of religious rule in such states. I have already indicated to you the meaning of the word religion, as applied to Islam. The truth is that Islam is not a Church. It is a State conceived as a contractual organism long before Rousseau ever thought of such a thing, and animated by an ethical ideal which regards man not as an earth-rooted creature, defined by this or that portion of the earth, but as a spiritual being understood in terms of a social mechanism, and possessing rights and duties as a living factor in that mechanism. The character of a Muslim State can be judged from what the Times of India pointed out some time ago in a leader [=front-page article] on the Indian Banking Inquiry Committee. "In ancient India," the paper points out, "the State framed laws regulating the rates of interest; but in Muslim times, although Islam clearly forbids the realisation of interest on money loaned, Indian Muslim States imposed no restrictions on such rates." I therefore demand the formation of a consolidated Muslim State in the best interests of India and Islam. For India, it means security and peace resulting from an internal balance of power; for Islam, an opportunity to rid itself of the stamp that Arabian Imperialism was forced to give it, to mobilise its law, its education, its culture, and to bring them into closer contact with its own original spirit and with the spirit of modern times.

 

[youboy]

Okay, then what is your response to THIS section in Allama Iqbal's Allahabad address.

"Nor should the Hindus fear that the creation of autonomous Muslim states will mean the introduction of a kind of religious rule in such states. I have already indicated to you the meaning of the word religion, as applied to Islam. The truth is that Islam is not a Church. It is a State conceived as a contractual organism long before Rousseau ever thought of such a thing, and animated by an ethical ideal which regards man not as an earth-rooted creature, defined by this or that portion of the earth, but as a spiritual being understood in terms of a social mechanism, and possessing rights and duties as a living factor in that mechanism. The character of a Muslim State can be judged from what the Times of India pointed out some time ago in a leader [=front-page article] on the Indian Banking Inquiry Committee. "In ancient India," the paper points out, "the State framed laws regulating the rates of interest; but in Muslim times, although Islam clearly forbids the realisation of interest on money loaned, Indian Muslim States imposed no restrictions on such rates." I therefore demand the formation of a consolidated Muslim State in the best interests of India and Islam. For India, it means security and peace resulting from an internal balance of power; for Islam, an opportunity to rid itself of the stamp that Arabian Imperialism was forced to give it, to mobilise its law, its education, its culture, and to bring them into closer contact with its own original spirit and with the spirit of modern times.

My brother Allahabad address was in 1930. Muslims in India competed in the elections of 1935 and congress won every where. when congress came into power in 1935 then Muslims were suppressed badly and they were even not allowed to slaughter cows and other cattles and may othe tings. Those were the worst 4 yrs in the history of Muslims of subcontinent. after the end of their rule Muslims celebrated salvation day or yom e nijat.

Pakistan resolution was passed in 1940

If you have read Allama Iqbal he was always teaching a united states of Islam.

Here you are quoting an Indian Newspaper. Who told you at the times of Lodhis and Mughal rules it was Islamic. We are not accepting that Mughals were ruling the India 100% as per Islamic rule. It was a man made rule. So comparing that with Islamic rule stands no logic.

Again we are back to the same starting we are not saying that Pakistan or Muslims will attack India. It will be their government who will wage war on Pakistan & Muslims. Then we will retaliate. When you have heard us saying that we will go and attack the Hindu nation and conquer it by ourselves. Unless and until they don't wage war we will not go there. But Indian government is already waging for on Muslims in Kashmir, and not adhering to Indus Water Treaty and so many more.

Islam is a very peaceful nation. As per Allah's command when Rasool Allah S.A.W army and the Islamic state they sent letters to the Kings of the other nations to accept the Islamic state as supreme rule and join it and give jizya or come to war. It was all according to Allah's command because Islam is for all mankind not for only Muslims. Nobody can challenge the command of Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala.

 

[youboy]

Thank you my brother but I googled his name and those came up and I have looked at them.

However, I want to know from you who he is.

As I said, I have a very, very specific reason for asking albeit one that I cannot divulge on here.

I did not get it my brother why you want to ask individual opinion about him.

You can search about his details. Read his book FROM INDUS TO OXUS Memoirs by Syed Zaid Zaman Hamid. Listen to him on you tube. Some of his lectures and TV interviews are in English also. It is best to build your own opinion about him. And you be the judge who he is.

For my side I will only say what he speaks is truth and he is making us aware and standing against the system of kufr in his capacity. He talks about how we can correct ourselves to be a true Muslims. He talks about how the system of Dajjal has enslaved the mankind and what are their goals. Also he gives us the solutions according to Quran and Hadith how Muslims should respond about it and how they can overcome this system as an individual and also collectively. Further he warns us that standing against this oppression will not be easy, you will be hit from every side, economically, socially, media will do propaganda against you that you are extremist and terrorist and war will be waged against you, but you have to stand firm and hold the rope of Allah tightly, Allah will send help from heavens for the your support. He talks about a true Islamic united states of Islam and the return of Khilafat.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Zaid HAmid is a joker.Ghazhwa E Hind thats one big dream he keeps showing people.Scholars i have met say the hadith he refers to is a very weak one.

He is a hater.Wants to kill muslims jews christians and everyone.Talks a lot of nonsense and people,and most of us be we from any country like to hear chest thumping,no matter how unrealistic they may be.Thats why he gets the air time for his chest thumping.Raj Thackrey also gets a lot of air time in India.

 

[youboy]

Zaid HAmid is a joker.Ghazhwa E Hind thats one big dream he keeps showing people.Scholars i have met say the hadith he refers to is a very weak one.

He is a hater.Wants to kill muslims jews christians and everyone.Talks a lot of nonsense and people,and most of us be we from any country like to hear chest thumping,no matter how unrealistic they may be.Thats why he gets the air time for his chest thumping.Raj Thackrey also gets a lot of air time in India.

He doesnot only talk about Ghazwa e Hind.
1. What about united states of Islam.
2. What about return of Khilafah.
3. Stand against the oppression by the system of Dajjal.
4.What about learn Quranic Arabic and read Quran in its own language and try to understand Quran.
5. What about read the Hadith books and educate yourself.
5. What about educate your self to the most of the modern knowledge also. He gives examples of Quaid e Azam and Allama Iqbal both were western educated but true muslims.
6. He asks you to go back to real wealth and slowly abandon paper currency. Silver Dirham and Gold Dinar.
7. He asks the rich people to take out proper Zakaat in real wealth (purchase gold from the Zakaat money you are taking out and pay so that there is no depreciation or affected by inflation.
8. What about abolish this interest based banking system and establish Bait ul Maal.
9. What about do Sadqa and Khairat. and dont do Israaf (spending on needs only not your desires).
10.He calls Muslims to towards Islam. He says first thing is to correct yourself and then others.
11. He calls all the Muslims to hold the rope of Allah tightly the way Allah has commanded.
12. He gives examples of Sahaba R.A and asks Muslim to follow in their foot steps as they were the closest to Allah and His Prophet Muhammad S.A.W.

The list goes on and on.

People can differ in opinion on some issues he is giving his opinion it is not must for you to agree on everything he says. But if you listen to him with open eyes and open heart then what he says is true.

 

[Tapori]

Zaid Hamid: The man who in no uncertain terms asked for missiles to be launched from Pakistan onto Israel... Seems intent on actually "using" our nuclear Arsenal rather than keeping it as a deterrent.

Genius.

Mohammad Ali Jinnah and Allama Iqbal who never actually fought in a proper man's war, (bunch of westernised softies that they were) would no doubt be amazed at his searing intellect. In fact we can conclude that they would have made him the leader of Pakistan...

But wait does he want to be a nationalist Pakistani or a HT inspired Khilfafat proponent? Which is it Mr. Hamid?

Let us all rejoice that he's here, alive and providing us with box-office entertainment.

Namak_Halal - You're right. But then the American orators like Glen Beck, Bill O Reilly, Tele-Evangelists and Rush Limbaugh also air views that resonate with a large number of Americans...

 

[DW44]

To all the proponents of 'Ghazwa' e Hind, you clowns do know that a Ghazwa is a battle that the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) himself fought in, right? Is this jackass(ZH) suggesting that the Prophet (PBUH) is going to fight alongside filth like Zaid Hamid and his ilk to conquer India?

 

[Tapori]

^ You mean you don't already regard Zaid Hamid as the next most important man alive today after the Prophet (PBUH)?

Shame on you.

 

[cricketjoshila]

He doesnot only talk about Ghazwa e Hind.
1. What about united states of Islam.
2. What about return of Khilafah.
3. Stand against the oppression by the system of Dajjal.
4.What about learn Quranic Arabic and read Quran in its own language and try to understand Quran.
5. What about read the Hadith books and educate yourself.
5. What about educate your self to the most of the modern knowledge also. He gives examples of Quaid e Azam and Allama Iqbal both were western educated but true muslims.
6. He asks you to go back to real wealth and slowly abandon paper currency. Silver Dirham and Gold Dinar.
7. He asks the rich people to take out proper Zakaat in real wealth (purchase gold from the Zakaat money you are taking out and pay so that there is no depreciation or affected by inflation.
8. What about abolish this interest based banking system and establish Bait ul Maal.
9. What about do Sadqa and Khairat. and dont do Israaf (spending on needs only not your desires).
10.He calls Muslims to towards Islam. He says first thing is to correct yourself and then others.
11. He calls all the Muslims to hold the rope of Allah tightly the way Allah has commanded.
12. He gives examples of Sahaba R.A and asks Muslim to follow in their foot steps as they were the closest to Allah and His Prophet Muhammad S.A.W.

The list goes on and on.

People can differ in opinion on some issues he is giving his opinion it is not must for you to agree on everything he says. But if you listen to him with open eyes and open heart then what he says is true.

LOL True.Thats the biggest piece of trash that i have heard.

1.He talks about killing Hindus and brahmins and destroyong their places of worship.

2.He talks about nuking Israel India etc.

3.Do you know if he has a bank account or not?If any Islamic country wants to abolish the present banking system thats upto them,he has no right to ask countries which are secular and not a theocratic state and whose governance has nothing to do with Islam to follow interest free system.

4.Again if any Islamic country wants it can use silver golden whatever dinars.Cant force others to follow.

5.return of Khilafah as in?

6.Please tell me more about the True Muslims of Allama Iqbal and especially M A Jinnah.

7.Do you need him to tell a muslim to educate oneself and read Quran and Hadeeth?

8.What and Which United States of Islam do you talk about?

All he says is rubbish rubbish and more rubbish.He has a certain following as he spews out rhetoric which when you listen to is very good but actually is very trash.

 

[youboy]

LOL True.Thats the biggest piece of trash that i have heard.

1.He talks about killing Hindus and brahmins and destroyong their places of worship.

2.He talks about nuking Israel India etc.

3.Do you know if he has a bank account or not?If any Islamic country wants to abolish the present banking system thats upto them,he has no right to ask countries which are secular and not a theocratic state and whose governance has nothing to do with Islam to follow interest free system.

4.Again if any Islamic country wants it can use silver golden whatever dinars.Cant force others to follow.

5.return of Khilafah as in?

6.Please tell me more about the True Muslims of Allama Iqbal and especially M A Jinnah.

7.Do you need him to tell a muslim to educate oneself and read Quran and Hadeeth?

8.What and Which United States of Islam do you talk about?

All he says is rubbish rubbish and more rubbish.He has a certain following as he spews out rhetoric which when you listen to is very good but actually is very trash.

The people who follow and listen to Zaid Hamid must be smiling on your post.

Allah gives us power to support the truth. In support of my comments I will only say go and watch his programs from the beginning. Not his interviews only where he said something in response to a particular question.

For the support of your comments I challenge you or anyone on PP to bring out any video from his programs or lecture. I will be the first one to stop following Zaid Hamid.
Please don't post out of context meaning a part of the program or interview where he is responding to any particular question. Post the whole video or comments.

 

[kraken]

If one believes ZH is a crazy heretic, then ask yourself this, why does he get so much airtime?

because the media is biased
just like it is biased in giving airtime to another clown; Anjem Choudary

 

[Tapori]

The people who follow and listen to Zaid Hamid must be smiling on your post.

Allah gives us power to support the truth. In support of my comments I will only say go and watch his programs from the beginning. Not his interviews only where he said something in response to a particular question.

For the support of your comments I challenge you or anyone on PP to bring out any video from his programs or lecture. I will be the first one to stop following Zaid Hamid.
Please don't post out of context meaning a part of the program or interview where he is responding to any particular question. Post the whole video or comments.

Well done for actually answering the pertinent questions asked of your posts/views and other refutations raised by by cricketjoshila!

 

[cricketjoshila]

Well done for actually answering the pertinent questions asked of your posts/views and other refutations raised by by cricketjoshila!

Maine Kuch nahi kiya.No Ghazwa on me please.

 

[KingKhanWC]

LOL True.Thats the biggest piece of trash that i have heard.

1.He talks about killing Hindus and brahmins and destroyong their places of worship



2.He talks about nuking Israel India etc.

Can you provide a link for these statements?

3.Do you know if he has a bank account or not?If any Islamic country wants to abolish the present banking system thats upto them,he has no right to ask countries which are secular and not a theocratic state and whose governance has nothing to do with Islam to follow interest free system.

4.Again if any Islamic country wants it can use silver golden whatever dinars.Cant force others to follow.

Everyone is entitled to their views. The current interest based banking system is a modern form of slavery.

5.return of Khilafah as in?

Most Muslims believe it will return one day when Muslims themselves want it. Nothing strange or new about this view.

6.Please tell me more about the True Muslims of Allama Iqbal and especially M A Jinnah.

7.Do you need him to tell a muslim to educate oneself and read Quran and Hadeeth?

8.What and Which United States of Islam do you talk about?

All he says is rubbish rubbish and more rubbish.He has a certain following as he spews out rhetoric which when you listen to is very good but actually is very trash.

A pathetic attemp to refute his views.

How about you listen to the last interview with RT and then tell me which of his views you are against? This will keep it specific and to the point.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Can you provide a link for these statements?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISUFo-cbmnw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2psbpWyXeU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SRIJ-nN8rc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74iuvL6GAMc

Everyone is entitled to their views. The current interest based banking system is a modern form of slavery.

I hope you are not a slave to this modern slavery system.may be you will enlighten us about this new slavery system.

Most Muslims believe it will return one day when Muslims themselves want it. Nothing strange or new about this view.

Please again tell me what Khilafah you are talking about?

A pathetic attemp to refute his views.

Please rather than just saying that my attempts are pathetic,please why dont you answer my question.

1.What and Which united states of Islam is this all about?

2.True Muslims like Allama Iqbal and M A Jinnah.Why not explain what true muslim characteristics is he talking about in these gentlemen.

3.Hasnt the Prophet(SAW) already commanded to read and follow the Quran and hasnt it been advocated to learn from the Life of the Prophet(PBUH),so is an additional command from Mr Hamid essential.

 

[KingKhanWC]

Can you provide a link for these statements?

I don't have headphones so will answer these once I have listened to them.

I hope you are not a slave to this modern slavery system.may be you will enlighten us about this new slavery system.

Everyone in the world is a slave to this system to some degree.

It's pretty simple, the bankers create money from nothing and then lend it out with interest.

Please again tell me what Khilafah you are talking about?

How many do you think there are? There is only one in Islam.

1.What and Which united states of Islam is this all about?

I don't understand the question. I think it's possibly a reference to the united Khalifa.

2.True Muslims like Allama Iqbal and M A Jinnah.Why not explain what true muslim characteristics is he talking about in these gentlemen.

Possibly the fact they understood for Muslims to live in peace Pakistan had to be created to get away from Hindu nationalists.

3.Hasnt the Prophet(SAW) already commanded to read and follow the Quran and hasnt it been advocated to learn from the Life of the Prophet(PBUH),so is an additional command from Mr Hamid essential.

lol. The Prophet(pbuh) is not around now. All Muslims are allowed to discuss and have views on current issues.

 

[cricketjoshila]

I don't have headphones so will answer these once I have listened to them.

Take your time.

Everyone in the world is a slave to this system to some degree.

It's pretty simple, the bankers create money from nothing and then lend it out with interest.

That is business.You are free not use the system not to take loans and not earn interests on Fixed Deposits etc.Its an option not a compulsion.So i dont understand the comparision to something like slavery.

How many do you think there are? There is only one in Islam.

Believe me i have heard some very lunatic versions of what Khilafah would be like.So i was asking what you think will be the Khilafah like.

I don't understand the question. I think it's possibly a reference to the united Khalifa.

United Khalifa?Is there any such reference in Islam?

Possibly the fact they understood for Muslims to live in peace Pakistan had to be created to get away from Hindu nationalists.

Thats a political thought isnt it?rather than a religious one.I was rather hoping it would be about their adherence to Islamic principles along the lines of the Sahaba.

No offence but people like Jinnah Ataturk were great leaders and did a lot for their people,but they wont be known for their adherence to Islamic principles.

lol. The Prophet(pbuh) is not around now. All Muslims are allowed to discuss and have views on current issues.

I would appreciate it if you dont use things like LOL etc while talking about the Prophet(SAW) in the same line.he is not here but isnt the Quran their to guide muslims.Isnt the Ahadees(at least the authentic ones) there to guide.Why is Mr Hamid needed.He himself accepted that he is no scholarin the matters of Deen.

 

[Amar786]

LOL True.Thats the biggest piece of trash that i have heard.

1.He talks about killing Hindus and brahmins and destroyong their places of worship.

2.He talks about nuking Israel India etc.

3.Do you know if he has a bank account or not?If any Islamic country wants to abolish the present banking system thats upto them,he has no right to ask countries which are secular and not a theocratic state and whose governance has nothing to do with Islam to follow interest free system.

4.Again if any Islamic country wants it can use silver golden whatever dinars.Cant force others to follow.

5.return of Khilafah as in?

6.Please tell me more about the True Muslims of Allama Iqbal and especially M A Jinnah.

7.Do you need him to tell a muslim to educate oneself and read Quran and Hadeeth?

8.What and Which United States of Islam do you talk about?

All he says is rubbish rubbish and more rubbish.He has a certain following as he spews out rhetoric which when you listen to is very good but actually is very trash.

And what do the jews and indian teach their people that is to kill muslims. I am talking of the majority of the population of India want to kill muslim and are taught hatred towards them if you want evience go on times of india and see the news about pakistan. And as for jews all of israel wants to kill muslims (e.g palestine and all over the world by using america). Why arent pakistanis going to be taught the same. Why dont u also point the blame on america and israel whent they kill the people of palestine and only speak when it comes to pak. As for pointing the nukes at ind and israel as if there nukes are not pointing at muslim countries.

 

[nish_mate]

And what do the jews and indian teach their people that is to kill muslims. I am talking of the majority of the population of India want to kill muslim and are taught hatred towards them if you want evience go on times of india and see the news about pakistan. And as for jews all of israel wants to kill muslims (e.g palestine and all over the world by using america). Why arent pakistanis going to be taught the same. Why dont u also point the blame on america and israel whent they kill the people of palestine and only speak when it comes to pak. As for pointing the nukes at ind and israel as if there nukes are not pointing at muslim countries.

Mate if we were really all that evil i can assure that the Muslim population of India would be in thousands and not in hundred millions.

So maybe you dig your head outta that bum of urs and use that AQL which God has given ya.....

 

[Tapori]

nish_mate - As a man of Indian descent (as many Pakistani Muslims are!) I agree!

But... Using Aql as mentioned in the Quran and now by you, is equal to man trying to challenge Allah and the Quran.

Clearly...

 

[nish_mate]

@ Tapori- I dont disagree with the fact that there will always be a bone of contention b/w Indians and Pakistanis- it will always be that love hate relationship...


But to be taught to hate and kill each other for being what we are???

Heck no, my dad didnt teach me that and i wont be teaching to my lil one when the time comes....

 

[Tapori]

Maine Kuch nahi kiya.No Ghazwa on me please.

Sab yehee kehte hain.

 

[Tapori]

@ Tapori- I dont disagree with the fact that there will always be a bone of contention b/w Indians and Pakistanis- it will always be that love hate relationship...


But to be taught to hate and kill each other for being what we are???

Heck no, my dad didnt teach me that and i wont be teaching to my lil one when the time comes....

It's your fault for being born in Pakistan or India. And you'll shall suffer by virtue of being a Pakistani or Indian.

 

[Ascension]

And what do the jews and indian teach their people that is to kill muslims. I am talking of the majority of the population of India want to kill muslim and are taught hatred towards them if you want evience go on times of india and see the news about pakistan. And as for jews all of israel wants to kill muslims (e.g palestine and all over the world by using america). Why arent pakistanis going to be taught the same. Why dont u also point the blame on america and israel whent they kill the people of palestine and only speak when it comes to pak. As for pointing the nukes at ind and israel as if there nukes are not pointing at muslim countries.

You're an idiot.

 

[cricketjoshila]

nish_mate - As a man of Indian descent (as many Pakistani Muslims are!) I agree!

But... Using Aql as mentioned in the Quran and now by you, is equal to man trying to challenge Allah and the Quran.

Clearly...

what no persian or arab blood in you.aapka to tab luch nahi ho sakta.you are not an ashraf then.

 

[youboy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISUFo-cbmnw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2psbpWyXeU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SRIJ-nN8rc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74iuvL6GAMc

You did the same thing which I asked you not to do my friend posting a small clips from the interview or a lecture and he answering a particular question.

Anyway if you have heard the clips he clearly said. "Jang woh shru kareinge, hum nahin". The war will be started from their side and we will only reply to it it will not start from our side. Unless they don't start there would be no war.

Pakistan won't attack anyone but if war is being imposed on Pakistan, Pakistan will reply. This is what Zaid Hamid says. This is what any patriotic citizen of any country will say. Is this sentence hard to understand.

 

[QazzarFan]

And what do the jews and indian teach their people that is to kill muslims. I am talking of the majority of the population of India want to kill muslim and are taught hatred towards them if you want evience go on times of india and see the news about pakistan. And as for jews all of israel wants to kill muslims (e.g palestine and all over the world by using america). Why arent pakistanis going to be taught the same. Why dont u also point the blame on america and israel whent they kill the people of palestine and only speak when it comes to pak. As for pointing the nukes at ind and israel as if there nukes are not pointing at muslim countries.

I have seen some sweeping generalizations but boy this definitely takes the cake this week...please let me know where you got your education as I will make sure never to send my kids there

 

[cricketjoshila]

You did the same thing which I asked you not to do my friend posting a small clips from the interview or a lecture and he answering a particular question.

Anyway if you have heard the clips he clearly said. "Jang woh shru kareinge, hum nahin". The war will be started from their side and we will only reply to it it will not start from our side. Unless they don't start there would be no war.

Pakistan won't attack anyone but if war is being imposed on Pakistan, Pakistan will reply. This is what Zaid Hamid says. This is what any patriotic citizen of any country will say. Is this sentence hard to understand.

i have seen his listened to his entire interviews the 1st one is from the dawn tv in the line of fire a few clips are post mumbai attacks.have listened to them both.

radio pakistan delhi what is that?

islam ki dawaat?qabool karo.warna faisla musalmano.
ki talwar karegi.



infact his dawn tv interview is worth listening.he makes fun of democracy.say he kicks democracy with his shoes.how his lies are exposed.

i remember a lady called him lal topi wala maskhara.and he said dnt abuse me or i will call you a hindu.thats what hindus mean to him an abuse.the lady replied hindu koi gaali hai and zaid hamid was stumped.

 

[Garuda]

^^ I have seen that interview. I think the lady really made this joker dance from left to right.

Her name was Marvi or something like that. I send this guys clips to my friends as he is a perfect timepass and a good joker.

I think during Afghan war he got hit on his head.

Radio Delhi pakistan... hahahaha

 

[youboy]

i have seen his listened to his entire interviews the 1st one is from the dawn tv in the line of fire a few clips are post mumbai attacks.have listened to them both.

radio pakistan delhi what is that?

islam ki dawaat?qabool karo.warna faisla musalmano.
ki talwar karegi.

This was in response when India accused Pakistan Army & ISI on the mumbai attacks and said be ready for the consequences. If you accuse someone they are bound to respond. Isn't it a general rule. If I accuse you of something you have not done and warn you of consequences, how you will respond.


infact his dawn tv interview is worth listening.he makes fun of democracy.say he kicks democracy with his shoes.how his lies are exposed.

Agree with him the existing democracy in the world is fraud & evil. In Pakistan in the last elections the voter turnout was 44.9%, and later it was also exposed that out of those another almost 50% were fake votes. So the government elected through this democracy was actually vote of maybe 10% people. How you can say that this is government by the people when it is representing only 10% people. The government under democracy working to fill their own money safes. How can you say that the government is for the people. Non of the people elected are from common people only the rich. How you can say this is the government of the people.

i remember a lady called him lal topi wala maskhara.and he said dnt abuse me or i will call you a hindu.thats what hindus mean to him an abuse.the lady replied hindu koi gaali hai and zaid hamid was stumped.

Here the program was conducted when SAFMA put a petition against Zaid Hamid for calling them RAW agents. It was a counter attack by Zaid Hamid as first the SAFMA journalists brought the discussion of Zaid Hamid views in their programs and called him ISI agent & made fun of him "Lal toopi wala balongra or maskhara". The lady said in the program that this is what he is and in reply Zaid Hamid said that we can also use vulgar words against the SAFMA journalists (but a decent man like Zaid Hamid dinot use any vulgar words). He just called her bindi waali Hindu (didn't use word hindu to abuse her), it was just pertaining to the discussion in the program that she is working for RAW agency.

Then she said Hindu is not a gaali and Zaid Hamid was not stumped, he agreed with the lady that it is not a gaali & then he said that wearing a laal topi is also not a gaali but adding baloongra and maskhara to it becomes a vulgar or making fun thing.

Waiting to reply on more question raised against Zaid Hamid.

 

[Amar786]

I am not aginst jews and hindus i have sikh neighbours who i get on well with. I have been to school where there have been hindu people have got on well with them. I am just telling you to look at both sides not just 1.

 

[Garuda]

Waiting to reply on more question raised against Zaid Hamid.

This was in response when India accused Pakistan Army & ISI on the mumbai attacks and said be ready for the consequences. If you accuse someone they are bound to respond. Isn't it a general rule. If I accuse you of something you have not done and warn you of consequences, how you will respond.

Yes, you are absolutely right.

When Pakistan accuses India for Balochistan or something else, a wise man from Indian TV should say

All India Radio from Islamabad

Hinduon ki daawat kabool karo. Warna faisala Hinduon ki talwaar karegi.

Right? Stop being kiddish.

 

[youboy]

Yes, you are absolutely right.

When Pakistan accuses India for Balochistan or something else, a wise man from Indian TV should say

All India Radio from Islamabad

Hinduon ki daawat kabool karo. Warna faisala Hinduon ki talwaar karegi.

Right? Stop being kiddish.

This not being kiddish my friend. This is reality.

Have you seen what wise man of Indian TV say or some of the politicians say?

 

[Garuda]

This not being kiddish my friend. This is reality.

Have you seen what wise man of Indian TV say or some of the politicians say?

Yes, I did. There is nothing reality in his view nor yours.

Give me links (I will accept small clips too) where Indian politicians or wise man say, muslims accept hinduism else our swords will do the rest.

Again, my question to you is: Do you justify Zaid Hamid's view on that thing ?

 

[youboy]

Yes, I did. There is nothing reality in his view nor yours.

Give me links (I will accept small clips too) where Indian politicians or wise man say, muslims accept hinduism else our swords will do the rest.

Again, my question to you is: Do you justify Zaid Hamid's view on that thing ?

Indian message to Pakistan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nx6fswRCCU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASAOaQevt4M&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3NBWEeaJFg&feature=related

India's champion of anti-corruption Anna Hazare's recent remarks on his readiness to fight against Pakistan in the event of hostilities have spurred a virtual Indo-Pakistan war.

Hazare wrote on his blog that he had fought on the India-Pakistan border as a soldier and was ready to take part in a war against Pakistan.

"Even today you can see the marks on my forehead left behind by Pakistan's bullet. This is my active conviction that Kashmir is an integral part of India and will remain so. Today once again if I have to, I am ready to take part in war against Pakistan. But some people can only speak and don't do anything on ground (in reality for Kashmir) and this is unfortunate," Hazare posted on his multi-lingual blog annahazaresays.wordpress.com.


So you agree If any country of the world wage a war against my country then you will respond to your fullest capacity.

Again I will quote Zaid Hamid he never said that Pakistan will go on war with India. Only the reply will come when Pakistan will be forced to enter into the war.

Zaid Hamid never said Hindus or common people have to accept the religion of Islam (Islam doesn't say anywhere of force conversions). Meaning of this concept is that they have to accept them as the ruler of the state, in case a war is imposed on Pakistan.

In a general histories of war when a country loses the war, it has to accept the other as a ruler but if anyone stand against the army they have to face the bullet or sword as in earlier days.

 

[kerala porotta]

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[kraken]

Zaid Hamid never said Hindus or common people have to accept the religion of Islam (Islam doesn't say anywhere of force conversions).

Quran 9:29
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

In summary, there are three choices:

1. convert to Islam
2. live as second-class dhimmi and pay the humiliating jizya tax
3. fight

but things get even worse for the polytheist and idolators (Quran 9:5 and 9: 6), as option #2 goes away.

 

[youboy]

Quran 9:29
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

In summary, there are three choices:

1. convert to Islam
2. live as second-class dhimmi and pay the humiliating jizya tax
3. fight

but things get even worse for the polytheist and idolators (Quran 9:5 and 9: 6), as option #2 goes away.

As you have brought out a verse from Quran, this should be discussed with an Islamic Scholar. Why not post your question to Dr. Zakir Naik Islamic research foundation website and let him or any scholar reply.

From my point there is no 2nd class dhimmi in Islam and pay the humiliating jizya tax. If you become a part of Islamic empire everyone had equal rights as other people.

Why do non-muslims have to pay Jizyah tax under Islamic Sharia Law?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6g9ohG-784

 

[Garuda]

@Youboy

Stop comparing Anna Hazare with Zaid Hamid. Your credibility goes down.

One was a soldier who fought on a batter field and saying he did like many others did. He didn't say he is going to kill muslims.

Other one is a chest thumping joker who shoots at heap of dust while making a video of it and uploading it on youtube. Then goes on TV shows to spit venom and make money for brainwashing young boys like you.

 

[youboy]

@Youboy

Stop comparing Anna Hazare with Zaid Hamid. Your credibility goes down.

One was a soldier who fought on a batter field and saying he did like many others did. He didn't say he is going to kill muslims.

Other one is a chest thumping joker who shoots at heap of dust while making a video of it and uploading it on youtube. Then goes on TV shows to spit venom and make money for brainwashing young boys like you.

Why you don't respect my point of view

For you Anna Hazare is a soldier who fought wars for your country.

For me Zaid Hamid is a also a soldier who fought a war as a Muslim against the Russian. He went in the war as a volunteer at the age of 22. He fought the war on the battle field for 6 years. He also said he is not going to kill Hindus only those who will fight in the war.

People don't like him because he tells the truth.

 

[Garuda]

Why you don't respect my point of view

For you Anna Hazare is a soldier who fought wars for your country.

For me Zaid Hamid is a also a soldier who fought a war as a Muslim against the Russian. He went in the war as a volunteer at the age of 22. He fought the war on the battle field for 6 years. He also said he is not going to kill Hindus only those who will fight in the war.

People don't like him because he tells the truth.

I respect your view point.

I do NOT respect Zaid's view point. Hope you got the difference.

Zaid fought with Russians ? Covert war ? Don't compare paid killer with a proper soldier.

He has said many times about converting all hindus. So what about respecting hindus for their view point ?

People don't like him because most people are sensible and he is just a utter garbase spitter. If you are young, my suggestion would be to avoid listening to him and listen to proper scholars from Pakistan. I am sure there are many.

 

[kraken]

From my point there is no 2nd class dhimmi in Islam and pay the humiliating jizya tax. If you become a part of Islamic empire everyone had equal rights as other people.

can you provide a single verse from the Quran that includes the word kafir/unbelivers/non-muslim and says something positive about them?

because there are tons of verses in the Quran saying a lot of bad things to the kafirs!

 

[Tapori]

what no persian or arab blood in you.aapka to tab luch nahi ho sakta.you are not an ashraf then.

AstaghfarAllah.

Kya aapko pataa bhee hai mein bilkul Syed hoon? Chee Chee Chee, Indus logon ka khoon kabhi paak hua bhi hain? Bilkul nahin.

Bow down to my infinite superiority in all matters of Deen!

But yeah, Islam has no castes. But by virtue of me being a "Syed" I have a higher de facto status.

 

[Tapori]

Why you don't respect my point of view

For you Anna Hazare is a soldier who fought wars for your country.

For me Zaid Hamid is a also a soldier who fought a war as a Muslim against the Russian. He went in the war as a volunteer at the age of 22. He fought the war on the battle field for 6 years. He also said he is not going to kill Hindus only those who will fight in the war.

People don't like him because he tells the truth.

Do elaborate please?

So when Zaid Hamid's Ghazwa-E-Hind takes place, what will be th position of those Indians (Yes including many Indian Muslims, aswell as Sikhs, Atheists, Communists, Buddhists and Christians not to mention Parsees and of course Shia Muslims) who don't accept Zaid Hamid's favoured interpretation of Islam?

Is rejection and or resistance to Zaid Hamid's favored ideology, an act of war?

Oh Noes!

 

[youboy]

I respect your view point.

I do NOT respect Zaid's view point. Hope you got the difference.

Zaid fought with Russians ? Covert war ? Don't compare paid killer with a proper soldier.

He has said many times about converting all hindus. So what about respecting hindus for their view point ?

People don't like him because most people are sensible and he is just a utter garbase spitter. If you are young, my suggestion would be to avoid listening to him and listen to proper scholars from Pakistan. I am sure there are many.

First of all you didn't read my comments. He went to Afghan war as a volunteer himself so there is no question of a paid soldier. If you are saying that America gave weapons to Afghans in the war. That was also because of America's interest in the region. You cannot fight a gunship helicopter with a sword.

Zaid Hamid has never forced Hindus to convert. There is a difference in asking and forcing. He care for a common Hindu and says to them they will be forced to war against Pakistan by their government. So they can decide to go in war or stay in peace and also respects their decision. As everyone knows in war there are only 2 sides, one has to die in battlefield or surrender.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWZ3iPJA0o8

I know thousands of people who like him as a speaker of truth and like his views including me.

I am not young and I have been listening to many scholars of Islam not only from Pakistan but all over the world and all the proper scholars say the same thing what Zaid Hamid says.

 

[youboy]

Do elaborate please?

So when Zaid Hamid's Ghazwa-E-Hind takes place, what will be th position of those Indians (Yes including many Indian Muslims, aswell as Sikhs, Atheists, Communists, Buddhists and Christians not to mention Parsees and of course Shia Muslims) who don't accept Zaid Hamid's favoured interpretation of Islam?

Is rejection and or resistance to Zaid Hamid's favored ideology, an act of war?

Oh Noes!

Again you are saying Zaid Hamid's Ghazwa e Hind or war.
Zaid Hamid said many times Muslims or Pakistan will not start the war. They are ready and will retaliate if war is imposed on Pakistan or Muslims.

For your 2nd question. You decide. In general when there is a war there are only 2 sides. There are some Sikhs and Hindu soldiers in Pakistan army so if they are in was what will Indian army do with them, leave them or fight with them.

 

[youboy]

can you provide a single verse from the Quran that includes the word kafir/unbelivers/non-muslim and says something positive about them?

because there are tons of verses in the Quran saying a lot of bad things to the kafirs!

Your question is not as per the topic but still here is my reply.

The below videos by Islamic Scholar Dr. Zakir Naik will help you in understanding Quran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2J2H0VxTbc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H-hzignPbQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgaXwLWK8tw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm_MvDwlv0E

Prophet Muhammad"pbuh" In Various Religious Scriptures by Dr. Zakir Naik
1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyfxQ-hDvu8
2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv1qKZASYAw
3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzhbMmWwLr4
4. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHNLpFu6W0A
5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uCutltY7hE
6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iYadVt6f6Y

 

[youboy]

Mate if we were really all that evil i can assure that the Muslim population of India would be in thousands and not in hundred millions.

So maybe you dig your head outta that bum of urs and use that AQL which God has given ya.....

Muslims ruled the subcontinent for more than 800 years. So if Islam says to kill Hindu would there be any Hindu living in subcontinent.

 

[Cricketismylife]

Zaid Hamid is the FOX NEWS of Pak. Inciteful/Propaganda while trying to sound Patriotic - masses fall for such ppl.

But while most on this forum can see faults with the ZIONIST propaganda masters (Fox etc) they cannot see through ppl like Zaid. Same is the truth for Rednecks (and others) in the US who think Fox is the truth (or NOT COMPLETELY wrong) and Fox are the only ones who dont give a cr@p about political correctness and stand up against the Terrorists. "Call it like it really is".

"My $ hit don't stink!" syndrome.

 

[Garuda]

Muslims ruled the subcontinent for more than 800 years. So if Islam says to kill Hindu would there be any Hindu living in subcontinent.

So what's your point ?

The muslim rulers were inefficient or hindus were strong to resist 800 years of muslim rule?

Just read the post to which you are replying once more and understand what is it trying to say.

 

[Garuda]

Does anyone knows, if Mr. Zahil Hamid takes money for talking on these TV shows or he does it free for the sake of Islam ?

 

[youboy]

So what's your point ?

The muslim rulers were inefficient or hindus were strong to resist 800 years of muslim rule?

Just read the post to which you are replying once more and understand what is it trying to say.

You are such a child that I have to explain everything

Point was Islam does not say to kill non-muslims.
Being a Muslim Zaid Hamid does not say to kill non-muslims.

 

[Garuda]

You are such a child that I have to explain everything

Point was Islam does not say to kill non-muslims.
Being a Muslim Zaid Hamid does not say to kill non-muslims.

Alright lets see who is child.

What is the purpose of his sword against hindus ?

So musalman ka talwar hindu ko kiss karne aaraha hai (according to Mr Zahil) ?

 

[youboy]

Alright lets see who is child.

What is the purpose of his sword against hindus ?

So musalman ka talwar hindu ko kiss karne aaraha hai (according to Mr Zahil) ?

Can you tell where he said that? A video link will be better.

 

[Garuda]

Can you tell where he said that? A video link will be better.

Some one already posted in this thread and please don't ask proof for these kind of statements of Zaid Hamid.

It's like asking for Shiv Sena's statement against pakistan/muslims/Biharis.

 

[youboy]

Some one already posted in this thread and please don't ask proof for these kind of statements of Zaid Hamid.

It's like asking for Shiv Sena's statement against pakistan/muslims/Biharis.

I didnot find the link my friend. If somebody has posted the link provide it or accept that you are unable to challenge Zaid Hamid.

And then you further question his credibility.

 

[Garuda]

Can you tell where he said that? A video link will be better.

One quick search on youtube can give you loads. One sample

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/WV7aXc0VgWA" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Here he is talking about

1. Attacking India. Rememeber he is not saying response to Indian attack. He is saying attacking and capturing India.

2. He is talking about small wars that India and Pakistan have fought in last 50 years are "Preparation for big war to capture India in future".


So who is this aggressor mental ? Don't ask for proof regarding this mental again.

I am surprised how so many educated young kids are watching him seriously.

 

[youboy]

One quick search on youtube can give you loads. One sample

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Here he is talking about

1. Attacking India. Rememeber he is not saying response to Indian attack. He is saying attacking and capturing India.

2. He is talking about small wars that India and Pakistan have fought in last 50 years are "Preparation for big war to capture India in future".


So who is this aggressor mental ? Don't ask for proof regarding this mental again.

I am surprised how so many educated young kids are watching him seriously.

My friend in this video he is answering a question being asked. A question was asked about Hadith of Ghazwa-e-Hind. Here he is not saying anything from his side. He is explaining the interpretation of the Hadith.

 

[Garuda]

My friend in this video he is answering a question being asked. A question was asked about Hadith of Ghazwa-e-Hind. Here he is not saying anything from his side. He is explaining the interpretation of the Hadith.

O mere innocent

Don't give me that excuse please.

Do some research from yourside and watch his videos in youtube. Loads are there and see if he supports this view or not.

Are you saying he doesn't support this ? Give some better excuse.


And watch this

He is saying "Inshaallah ki bhi jaroorat nahin hai. Yehi hoga. Pakistan will take over India"

One thing is explaining a hadith and other thing is validating that. He is validating that. Also do you think public figures should validate these kind of hadiths ?

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[Bhaijaan]

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Ab kya kahogey?

 

[Garuda]

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Ab kya kahogey?

^^ Ohhhhh my god. This one is more comical. do you have the full interview of this one ?


The interviewer is a good one. Acche se lapet raha hai laal topi ko.

I am sure laal topi is a mental. He can't be sane.

 

[Garuda]

@youboy

Let me clear the question for you a bit as you have been saying many things.

You say Islam doesn't want to kill Hindus, but said Zaid Mahid says so because it's said in Hadith.


So can you please clarify who is actually calling for killing hindus and taking over India ?

1. Islam
2. Hadith
3. Zaid Hamid


Take your time.

 

[Garuda]

^ <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ISUFo-cbmnw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Ab kya kahogey?

Found and watching the full video.

First question. Army mein nahin ja paaye. Aaankhen kamjoor thi

Iski Dimaag kamjoor hai aankhen ke saath saath.

 

[Bhaijaan]

@youboy

Let me clear the question for you a bit as you have been saying many things.

You say Islam doesn't want to kill Hindus, but said Zaid Mahid says so because it's said in Hadith.


So can you please clarify who is actually calling for killing hindus and taking over India ?

1. Islam
2. Hadith
3. Zaid Hamid


Take your time.

That's a good question. One thing interesting i find is that they call for taking every piece of land on Earth except CHINA
Why?