The NFL Thread

[Gotham Cronie]

So if the ex head of officials knows all the calls then why wasn't the Ballard TD catch overturned? He clearly said that Ballard was inbounds.

HIS TAKE: I love when the ruling on the field stands, even though I originally thought Ballard might have gotten one knee down in bounds, which is the same as getting two feet down. Sometimes you fall victim to a frozen piece of video, which really doesn’t paint the whole picture. I get mad at myself when I look at a still frame and try to draw a conclusion based on that alone. I have said it so many times before — I’m OK when a referee lets the ruling on the field stand. At least the referee gets a second look at the play. Referee Jeff Triplette was right for staying with this call. There was just not indisputable visual evidence to overturn the ruling on the field. My bad.

Jennings never had control of the ball in the endzone. Aikman, who is as anti-Giants as one can be, even said it wasn't a TD.

HIS TAKE: This one was all about control. A word I never use when determining control is, move. The ball always moves. In this case, Jennings did not have possession, but then did appear to have control with his left hand and then got two feet down before the defender stripped out the ball. It was one of those plays where you could have made a case either way. Since it was ruled a catch and a touchdown, referee Jeff Triplette announced that the ruling on the field stood as called. That means, there would not have been enough evidence to overturn the call, no matter which way it was ruled.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...w-Jared-Allen-ground-cant-cause-fumble-120411

 

[asifp]

HIS TAKE: I love when the ruling on the field stands, even though I originally thought Ballard might have gotten one knee down in bounds, which is the same as getting two feet down. Sometimes you fall victim to a frozen piece of video, which really doesn’t paint the whole picture. I get mad at myself when I look at a still frame and try to draw a conclusion based on that alone. I have said it so many times before — I’m OK when a referee lets the ruling on the field stand. At least the referee gets a second look at the play. Referee Jeff Triplette was right for staying with this call. There was just not indisputable visual evidence to overturn the ruling on the field. My bad.



HIS TAKE: This one was all about control. A word I never use when determining control is, move. The ball always moves. In this case, Jennings did not have possession, but then did appear to have control with his left hand and then got two feet down before the defender stripped out the ball. It was one of those plays where you could have made a case either way. Since it was ruled a catch and a touchdown, referee Jeff Triplette announced that the ruling on the field stood as called. That means, there would not have been enough evidence to overturn the call, no matter which way it was ruled.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...w-Jared-Allen-ground-cant-cause-fumble-120411

Well well well, looks like I have the former head of officials on my side for both the calls now. Mr Inwswinger, Mike Pereria just got you with reverse swing there.

Let the crying continue

 

[Inswinger]

Pereia never says anything bad about the officials. He clearly said Jennings never had control of the ball but the ref didn't overturn it.

As for Ballard

 

[Inswinger]

And GC, you should know by now that Pereria never goes against the officials. As a neutral observer, even though you're an Eagles fan and dislike the Giants, so you think the right calls were made?


And I didn't even mention Driver stepping out of bound ands then coming back into to make the catch for a TD.


asifp, you can brag about it all you want. The general feeling around the sports world is that the wrong calls were made.

 

[asifp]

And GC, you should know by now that Pereria never goes against the officials. As a neutral observer, even though you're an Eagles fan and dislike the Giants, so you think the right calls were made?


And I didn't even mention Driver stepping out of bound ands then coming back into to make the catch for a TD.


asifp, you can brag about it all you want. The general feeling around the sports world is that the wrong calls were made.

Incorrect - That is the general feeling in the Giants fan bubble world.

The rules are simple. Indisputable video evidence, not marginal, not almost, indisputable. So benefit of the doubt on replay stays with the refs.

Wonder what you would be saying if Hakeem Nicks had made that TD instead of Jennings.

As for any other bad calls you might talk about it, they happen part of the game. Packers lost a playoff game to Arizona on a fumble 2 years ago that was caused by a facemask not called. Happens and will continue to happen.

 

[asifp]

Pereia never says anything bad about the officials. He clearly said Jennings never had control of the ball but the ref didn't overturn it.

As for Ballard

No he did not. He said initially it was a wobble, but then his left hand gained control on the last step.

It was the commentators who thought Jennings did not have control.

The disagreement there shows the evidence was not conclusive so the ruling on the field has to stand. Watch that TD in full speed, not even Aleem Dar would be able to say the ball was moving in his hands.

 

[Inswinger]

But he did not complete a football move with the ball under control. He stepped out of bounds before it could have been counted as having control and competing a football move. Look at what they did to Johnson.

Play calling in this game was lopsided. You have to admit that. The NFL wants an undefeated team and that's what they got.

Good luck being one and done in the playoffs. I have nothing against the Packers but the fact that their fans seem oblivious to the obvious is now making me root against them in every game.

PS
What about the Balard TD? His knee was down inbounds and then slid out of bounds. Knee equals 2 feet.

 

[Inswinger]

Let's move on to next week.

Must win game for us against the Boys.

 

[asifp]

But he did not complete a football move with the ball under control. He stepped out of bounds before it could have been counted as having control and competing a football move. Look at what they did to Johnson.

Play calling in this game was lopsided. You have to admit that. The NFL wants an undefeated team and that's what they got.

Good luck being one and done in the playoffs. I have nothing against the Packers but the fact that their fans seem oblivious to the obvious is now making me root against them in every game.

PS
What about the Balard TD? His knee was down inbounds and then slid out of bounds. Knee equals 2 feet.

Its called jealousy. Everyone hated the Patriots too when they went 16-0.

Like I mentioned earlier our Defense has teething problems, but its just needs to play Ok every game. The funny thing is whenever the offense has had problems the defense has stepped up hence the 12-0 season.

Dont just look at one picture, go look at the video, no way the replay booth could have over turned.

The Refs did not beat you. Your teams inability to stop A-Rod with 58 seconds left on the clock cost you the game.

 

[asifp]

Let's move on to next week.

Must win game for us against the Boys.

As long as Laurent Robinson catches a TD I am happy. Has proven to be a great pickup in Fantasy football.

 

[Inswinger]

The Patriots were a far more complete team than the Packers are at this point. Any team with a good offense will be able to beat the Packers.

I would have never made this a big issue if you had admitted that the Packers got lucky with a few calls going their way. But you came on here saying the Giants were "conquered" at home. That pisses me off. You don't want to give the Giants any credit and keep ignoring the fact that luck played a great part in the Pack winning this one.

But time to move on. You can feel proud. I've got no reason to stop you.

See you in the NFC Championship Game! It'll be XLII once again!

 

[QuarterBack]

Its called jealousy. Everyone hated the Patriots too when they went 16-0.

Correction: Everyone hated the Patriots at the start of the 07 season (after Spygate broke out) and that was what fueled the organization, coaches and players to go 16-0 and smash every opponent in the mouth!

I honestly dont think people hate the Packers this year. Rampant womanizing aside, Rodgers (dont steal other superstars' nicknames. There is already an A-Rod!!!) and his bunch are quite likable, unlike the '07 Patriots.

As far as us Pats fans are concerned, we would like nothing other than for the Pack to go 16-0! Honestly. That would mean, the Pats organization would remove the stupid "16-0 Regular Season" banner from the Pats stadium. There is NOTHING worse for a fan, believe you me, than to be reminded of that year! So, I really hope the GBP go 16-0 and lose in the playoffs, so that we might be cured of that ignominy...

 

[Gotham Cronie]

And GC, you should know by now that Pereria never goes against the officials.

I have seen Pereria go against the officials before. Here are two instances from his recent articles.:

MY TAKE: It’s funny how some of my Twitter followers think I’m automatically wrong when the referee does not agree with what I think should be ruled. Does anybody ever doubt the referee?

Look, I’m all for staying with the call if there’s not indisputable visual evidence. But in this case, I think there was indisputable visual evidence to rule the pass incomplete as Nelson did not have total possession of the ball before the point of the ball hit the ground.

I also feel that Nelson, if it was a catch, was down by contact because his foot contacted the leg of the defender after he supposedly had control. We can agree to disagree, but I have to tell you that I think I’m right – and they aren’t.

MY TAKE: The further I get away from the league, the more conservative I get with instant replay. I don’t think anything should get reversed unless there is 100 percent indisputable visual evidence.

On this play, since there was not a video shot right down the sideline, I would not have reversed it.

I’ve seen too many times when it looks like a runner’s foot might be on the line, but then you see a down-the-line sideline shot and it turns out that it is not. I’ve always felt that if you look at a play and decide not to reverse it, then replay has done its job. On the other hand, if you reverse it without indisputable visual evidence, then replay failed.

While I wouldn’t have reversed this play, that’s one person’s judgment against another. I just hope that the standard remains that you need indisputable visual evidence before a call gets reversed.

As a neutral observer, even though you're an Eagles fan and dislike the Giants, so you think the right calls were made?

I can't speak for all of the calls as I didn't watch the game. I do know that the Jennings TD seemed incomplete to me but I gave up trying to figure out the NFL's rules for catches a long time ago (See Calvin Johnson in 2010, Nate Burleson in 2011)

On the Ballard TD, I don't think there was enough to overturn the call.

 

[asifp]

Packers rolling again today. 31-0 and its only half time

 

[asifp]

Greg Jennings hurt not good, not good, could be out for a while going off on a cart!

 

[Amir]

Tebow does it again! asif, if I were you....I would pray you don't end up playing Tebow in the Super Bowl or it may end in tears

 

[Gotham Cronie]

Eagles need Giants to win tonight.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Eagles need Giants to win tonight.

Need the Gints to lose next week to the Jets & the Girlz to lose to Tampa (which DEF WONT HAPPEN) Season OVER.. EVERY time I look at JPP I feel like crying, I cannot believe we traded up for BRANDON BUST, Eagles FO ever since Ray Rhodes got fired doesnt know how to draft on D.......

 

[Gotham Cronie]

Need the Gints to lose next week to the Jets & the Girlz to lose to Tampa (which DEF WONT HAPPEN) Season OVER.. EVERY time I look at JPP I feel like crying, I cannot believe we traded up for BRANDON BUST, Eagles FO ever since Ray Rhodes got fired doesnt know how to draft on D.......

You declared the season over a month ago so no point repeating.

Here’s how the Eagles can make the postseason:

1) Win out.

2) Cowboys must go 1-2. They have games against Tampa Bay, Philadelphia, and New York.

3) Giants must go 1-2. The Giants have games against the Jets, Redskins, and Dallas.

 

[Inswinger]

We've got one player on offense and one on defense. Eli and JPP are getting it done. The rest need to step it up.

 

[SAF]

I am a TEBOW fan. God loves him, we all should too.

 

[Inswinger]

SAF, you still consider Eli to be overrated?

 

[Gotham Cronie]

SAF, you still consider Eli to be overrated?

I thought he was overrated coming into this year but to his credit, he has been playing ridiculous. Especially in the 4th quarter.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Casey Mathews first sack, hopefully his bro will give him the juice next year and he will come back a BEAST:::


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[SAF]

SAF, you still consider Eli to be overrated?

basically what GC said..

 

[Romali_rotti]

If Gints beat the SKINS then its officially time for the BIRDSZZZ to lose rest of the games to have a crack at Robert Griffin III

 

[Inswinger]

Final nail in Coughlin's career?

Time for a change

 

[Inswinger]

The East is the Cowboys' to lose now.

Time to say bye-bye to Coughlin, Killdrive, and Futile.

 

[ssuhaide]

it was the same old Eli. Not helped by butterfingers Nicks.

 

[Inswinger]

it was the same old Eli. Not helped by butterfingers Nicks.

This game wasn't loss because of Eli. If you look at the box-score you will see 3 INTs for Eli. But watching the game, he only made one bad pass. One of the INTs was tipped ball that the WR gave up on. The second was Manningham running the wrong route.

The offesne was due a bad game. This was the week the offense needed the defense to win the game. The defense failed.

Coughlin, Gilbride. and Fewell ned to go.

Manningham, Rolle, Ross, and Grant also need to be let go. These guys have the IQs of a toddler.

 

[Inswinger]

What's strange is the the Giants still control their own destiny. They beat the Jets (who got demolished by Philly) and Dallas, they go to the playoffs.

I think they'll win next week. But if this is a lost season then I'd rather not make the playoffs so we can get a decent pick and clean house when it comes to the coaching staff.

Bring on Cowher or Gruden or any decent coach. TC has lost the team.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

If...

1. Eagles beat Cowboys and Redskins.
2. Jets beat Giants.
3. Giants beat Cowboys.

Eagles make the playoffs.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

"Just to put McCoy's season into perspective, he is one of just four players in NFL history to record 19 TDs in a season before their 24th birthday. The others are Eric Dickerson, Gale Sayers and Emmit Smith... all hall of famers."

 

[Gotham Cronie]

STrong possibility Ray Edwards could become an Eagle.. I have high hoes for the 2nd round pick Jarret........We need another DT though Bunkley just doesnt get the job done...As for an extra running back Reggie Bush could be a possibility..

Birds have signed Babin, so no Ray Edwards.

As expected Eagles going for the cheapest deal, Babin had a huge one last year working under Jim Washburn lets see if that will happen again..

Ray Edwards: 30 Tackles, 0 Forced Fumbles, 3.5 Sacks

Jason Babin: 38 tackles, 3 Forced Fumbles, 18 Sacks

How'd that "cheapest deal" work out?

 

[Inswinger]

Ray Edwards: 30 Tackles, 0 Forced Fumbles, 3.5 Sacks

Jason Babin: 38 tackles, 3 Forced Fumbles, 18 Sacks

How'd that "cheapest deal" work out?

To be fair, Babin is getting the sacks because of the "wide 9" stance. The Eagles have left the middle wide open for good rushing teams.

 

[Inswinger]

My money's on the Boys to take the East.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

To be fair, Babin is getting the sacks because of the "wide 9" stance. The Eagles have left the middle wide open for good rushing teams.

He's doing what he was brought here to do.

Edwards is showing that he's nothing without the attention that the william brother and Jared Allen got.

 

[Romali_rotti]

Ray Edwards: 30 Tackles, 0 Forced Fumbles, 3.5 Sacks

Jason Babin: 38 tackles, 3 Forced Fumbles, 18 Sacks

How'd that "cheapest deal" work out?

Babin has had an amazing season, I hope he takes out Strahan's 21.5 sack record even though the real record was SET by REGGIE WHITE 21 sack in 12 games back in 87, I recall watching that season he was AMAZING.. To bad the strike held Reggie Out on a 30 sack season.. In all honesty when Teams run right at BABIN he looks lost and basically looks like nothing nevertheless had Dixon been playing this wouldve been an amazing line and teams wouldve found it hard to run against us..

 

[Romali_rotti]

Casey Mathews has been getting better and better looks like a real good BLITZER.. I think next season after spending time with his brother during offseason and a full training camp he could turn into a good player..

 

[Fawad2010]

Packers lost, and Colts won this week. what is going on?

And Patriots make it to playoffs

 

[Inswinger]

He's doing what he was brought here to do.

Edwards is showing that he's nothing without the attention that the william brother and Jared Allen got.

Babbin is very good against the pass but can't play the run. He's like Osi. An incomplete DE.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

Babbin is very good against the pass but can't play the run. He's like Osi. An incomplete DE.

Better than Edwards who can't play the pass or the run.

And again, like I mentioned. The system doesn't tell him to play the run.

 

[Inswinger]

Better than Edwards who can't play the pass or the run.

And again, like I mentioned. The system doesn't tell him to play the run.

If the Eagles have aspirations of being a SB contender anytime soon then they will have to alter the system. The "Wide 9" is great for getting to the QB but won't help you stop the run.

 

[QuarterBack]

There are few constants in the ever changing world of the NFL: one of them being that the Patriots will win the AFC East Division! And they just did it again!

As for the rest of the league, wild wild week. Packers lose, Colts win and .......... Ochocinco catches a TD pass!!!

 

[QuarterBack]

BTW, this is why the Patriots unbeaten regular season of 2007 is such a big deal. It is incredibly hard to do so, 16 weeks in a run. More so in the later weeks, when you have a clear X mark on your back! The Colts and Saints found this out 2 years ago and now the Packers did.

 

[Inswinger]

BTW, this is why the Patriots unbeaten regular season of 2007 is such a big deal. It is incredibly hard to do so, 16 weeks in a run. More so in the later weeks, when you have a clear X mark on your back! The Colts and Saints found this out 2 years ago and now the Packers did.

Colts were not going for 16-0, the Pack were.

 

[asifp]

Travelling from London missed the first game of the year and Packers stinked it up.

WR were dropping like they are hot, the O-Line sucked (though can't expect much when your starting RT and LT are both out). For a moment I thought we were 0-13 and now 13-0.

Hopefully this is the slap in the face they needed.

 

[SAF]

AFC is wide open right now.

1st seed Pats have horrible D
2nd seed Ravens are inconsistent.
3rd seed Texans are with a 3rd string QB
4th seed Broncos go in with Tebow as their QB
5th seed Steelers arent the same team, Big Ben is badly hurt

Jets/Bengals/Tians/Chargers are fighting for the wild card.


If Ravens win out, they get 2nd seed, first week bye, and a home playoff game..and if the Pats lose one more game while the Ravens win out, then Ravens get 1st seed, which means SB!

 

[Gotham Cronie]

If the Eagles have aspirations of being a SB contender anytime soon then they will have to alter the system. The "Wide 9" is great for getting to the QB but won't help you stop the run.

The Eagles run D woes are overrated.

 

[QuarterBack]

AFC is wide open right now.

1st seed Pats have horrible D
2nd seed Ravens are inconsistent.
3rd seed Texans are with a 3rd string QB
4th seed Broncos go in with Tebow as their QB
5th seed Steelers arent the same team, Big Ben is badly hurt

Jets/Bengals/Tians/Chargers are fighting for the wild card.


If Ravens win out, they get 2nd seed, first week bye, and a home playoff game..and if the Pats lose one more game while the Ravens win out, then Ravens get 1st seed, which means SB!

I said long ago! AFC is a bunch of flawed teams! Teams with horrible D (Patriots) or horrible O (Ravens) or badly hurt (Steelers). I cant see Pats losing another game (vs Bills and vs Phins) so they should have the #1 seed in the AFC, which is incredibly amazing considering how bad our D is.

But it helps, no doubt. The D just has to string together 2 decent games and we can be in the SuperBowl. Kinda reminds me the way I felt about the Indian cricket team's chances in the World Cup knock out stage!

 

[Inswinger]

The Eagles run D woes are overrated.

No. The Jets were getting huge chunks against the Eagles. They had to abandon the run because of some flukey plays that went the Eagles way. This is not a championship level defense, regardless of the sacks.

 

[Inswinger]

The entire NFL is flawed. Take a look at the worse defenses in the league and you see a lot of contenders there.

 

[QuarterBack]

That is true. But I think the NFC, on the whole has stronger teams than the AFC. If the Saints, for instance were in the AFC, they would be the clear favorites. This year, the NFC teams are in general playing at a higher level than AFC teams.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

No. The Jets were getting huge chunks against the Eagles. They had to abandon the run because of some flukey plays that went the Eagles way. This is not a championship level defense, regardless of the sacks.

They're not designed to be a good run D.

They're designed to get a lead and then have the pass rushers let loose while the secondary forces coverage sacks.

 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Did not want to create a new thread for this, think it is relevant here

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[Inswinger]

Colts just may have lost the #1 pick with that win.

 

[QuarterBack]

Colts just may have lost the #1 pick with that win.

Oh its much more than that!
1. Colts lose the #1 pick
2. The Peyton Manning era in Colts is potentially safe
3. The Sam Bradfor era in St.Loius might be over

amongst a few

 

[Inswinger]

Thank You DEFENSE for finally stepping up!!!!!

 

[Amir]

Terrible stuff from Sanchez. His defence plus challenges gave him so many chances and he choked.

His form has been dipping since he started seeing Kate Upton. Then again, I would take Kate Upton over playoffs any day (he is not going to win Super Bowl anyway)

 

[Romali_rotti]

Why the ***** didnt Eagles lose this game once they knew Jets lost is beyond me... TANK THE FRICKEN SEASON GODDAMMITTTTT draft spot is sooooo important............

 

[Romali_rotti]

Spagssss flying back to the NEST **** YEAH!!!!! NOW WE TALKING!!!!!!


"League sources also said this week that it is all but certain that Spagnuolo will join Andy Reid’s staff in Philadelphia as the Eagles’ defensive coordinator."

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/...ss/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[Romali_rotti]

Now if the birds can put Castillo back as the OL coach and let MUDD retireeeeeeeeeeeee....

 

[Gotham Cronie]

Now if the birds can put Castillo back as the OL coach and let MUDD retireeeeeeeeeeeee....

Idk, I think putting Juan back as O-Line coach would be a disaster. They've coached the players on Mudd's style now and even drafted a player like Kelce to fit his coaching.

You would either have to force Juan to scrap all the progress he's made and go into learning Mudd's style or telling the players to forget everything and listen to Juan now.

Let Juan coach the LBs or something.

And in regards to that "all but certain" report about Spags, I remember about 5 different names being "all but certain" for the Eagles DC last year so I take it with a grain of salt.

 

[QuarterBack]

Awesome moment!

http://www.patriots.com/media-cente...rt-Kraft/5e3a3faf-c34e-4c21-9897-a5b223a45b79

Post game: After Belichick spoke, he turned the floor over to tackle Matt Light who gave Kraft a painting commissioned by the players.

As described by Peter King on SI.com, the painting shows a group of Patriots in a huddle pointing to the initials “MHK” for Kraft’s late wife.

Classy gesture, for a classy owner!

 

[asifp]

Big weekend coming up. Here is hoping Giants watch the playoffs from home

 

[Inswinger]

Big weekend coming up. Here is hoping Giants watch the playoffs from home

I know you're afraid. Eli came to your house and beat your legendary QB in the NFC Championship game. He'll do it again. Better hope the Giants lose or it will be a disappointing end to the season for you guys.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

I know you're afraid. Eli came to your house and beat your legendary QB in the NFC Championship game. He'll do it again. Better hope the Giants lose or it will be a disappointing end to the season for you guys.

Favre won't be their to throw a pick in OT this time.

 

[asifp]

I know you're afraid. Eli came to your house and beat your legendary QB in the NFC Championship game. He'll do it again. Better hope the Giants lose or it will be a disappointing end to the season for you guys.

This is Rodgers not the INT machine Favre. Giants have NO chance of winning the super bowl this year

 

[SAF]

huge game for ravens..a loss means 5th seed, and a win means home field advantage..unless the steelers lose, which I wouldn't think be happening

 

[Inswinger]

This is Rodgers not the INT machine Favre. Giants have NO chance of winning the super bowl this year

That's what they said back then as well. NFC faves are the Saints anyway.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

That's what they said back then as well. NFC faves are the Saints anyway.

Until they have to step outside a dome.

 

[Gotham Cronie]

Matt Flynn made a lot of money today.

Eagles finish the season with 38 turnovers.

 

[kingusama92]

Nice to see Tebow and the Broncos make the playoffs.

 

[SAF]

whatta crazy season this was! bills starting 5-0, Tebow drama, 49ers becoming one of the best, eagles flopping, lions success, ravens undefeated in the division, Bengals success, chiefs breaking the streak, colts finally winning a game, jets not making the playoffs, philip rivers bad season, the handshake, giants vs jets, harbowl, and the list goes on!!!!

 

[SAF]

MVP: rodgers
def player: Suggs

best team: Packers
worst team: Colts
shocking team: 49ers
overrated team: Eagles/Cowboys/steelers
underrated team: Texans/Giants
underdog team: Broncos
most complete team: Ravens
most consistent team: Saints/Pats
most inconsistent: Ravens/Jets

best player: Brees
overrated player: tebow
worst player: too many

best coach: jim harbough
worst coach: Rex Ryan

sb: Saints vs Ravens or Saints vs Pats

 

[Gotham Cronie]

MVP: rodgers
def MVP: Suggs

best team: Packers
worst team: Colts
shocking team: 49ers
overrated team: Cowboys/steelers
underrated team: Texans
underdog team: Broncos
most complete team: Ravens
most consistent team: Saints/Pays
most inconsistent: Ravens

best player: Brees
overrated player: tebow
worst player: too many

best coach: jim harbough
worst coach: Rex Ryan

sb: Saints vs Ravens or Saints vs Pats

Flynn might have cost A-Rod the MVP trophy today lol.

And Saints in the SB? They can't play in that dome against SF or GB.

 

[Romali_rotti]

I dunno what feels worse; Eagles not making the playoffs or JPP not weaing midnight green.....

 

[Inswinger]

I dunno what feels worse; Eagles not making the playoffs or JPP not weaing midnight green.....

JPP is the best complete d-lineman in the league right now. How many d-lineman can get to the QB, stop the run, chase down backs and receivers in the open field, and make plays on ST? He's up there with Suh as the best young d-lineman in the league.

 

[Romali_rotti]

JPP is the best complete d-lineman in the league right now. How many d-lineman can get to the QB, stop the run, chase down backs and receivers in the open field, and make plays on ST? He's up there with Suh as the best young d-lineman in the league.

I agree, grats on your win but it was expected...

 

[Romali_rotti]

Lurie will speak at 2:30pm ET on Tuesday .. Could Andy Reid be gone ? Ohhhhh I trulyyy HOPE SPAGS is the reason why Lurie will be speaking.....