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Ben Stokes was visibly upset at the dismissal, miffed at the ball keeping so low as it beats his defensive stroke and clatters into his stumps.

So, is this pitch ok? India didn't have a problem when they batted?

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Stokes crying already? I thought Bazball was about playing fearless cricket and not worrying about the pitch, the opposition and the situation.

Love this meltdown and more to come as India humiliate Bazball with a 4-1 win.
 
Ohh no , when England is under pressure and now suddenly pitch talk ,not surprised at all .:kp
 
Like many batters before him Ben stokes made the delivery look much worse than what it actually was.

The pitch seems pretty good (in fact even better than the one from Hyderabad).

Thanks to Bumrah’s masterclass in reverse swing we are in good position in our 1st inning.
 
MANU ROY said:
Even before England talk about pitch Pakistan cricket fan's cry already started
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Truth to be told, many in this wonderful forum can’t be grouped into that tiny few crazy anti India brigade whose sole aim in most discussions involving ICT seems to be belittling or tarnishing India’s achievements.
 
A pitch where World best spinner gone wicketless but world best fast bowler taken 6 fer is bad ??? Really
 
MenInG said:
Ben Stokes was visibly upset at the dismissal, miffed at the ball keeping so low as it beats his defensive stroke and clatters into his stumps.

So, is this pitch ok? India didn't have a problem when they batted?

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The pitch isnt doing anything much. Ben Stokes just missed his shot. Dont know what he was crying about. Some balls will stay low, bound to happen in test match. Having said that, that particular lack of bounce wasnt so bad
 
Just saw a video saying Bumrah's ball that bowled Pope was at 156kmp is this true ? Gotta be false..
 
Agree. Terrible pitch if GOAT all rounder is getting out. Some nice flat decks and 2 different types of Dukes balls - one for England and another for the opponent - are required to see Bazball in its full glory.
 
Good test wicket. No excuses. Frustratingly a combo of quality bowling and average England batting
 
Last Test pitch was extremely slow and no bounce. It played into the hands of ENgland somewhat. This pitch has bounce.
 
One side scored 400 and the other 250 . In which world is that a poor wicket ?

Today made for some exhilarating cricket . It took some real special bowling from Bumrah to skittle England out
 
MenInG said:
Ben Stokes was visibly upset at the dismissal, miffed at the ball keeping so low as it beats his defensive stroke and clatters into his stumps.

So, is this pitch ok? India didn't have a problem when they batted?

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Over-reaction of the year 2024 lol That was just a reaction driven by ego nothing else. Just because Stokes reacts that way that doesn't make what he implies is true.
 
Good grief — the pitch is fine.
A young lad scored a double century on it for goodness sake.
When England win it is the greatest performance of all time, and when they lose, which they will, it is because of the pitch.
Gavaskar predicted this narrative before the tour began.
 
So Bumrah had a post match chat with Zak and KP. They both asked him about the Stokes reaction.

Apparently the ball was supposed to come in. And Stokes to expected the same. But the ball pitched and left Stokes.

That's why the reaction.
 
Stokes is such a sook. So just because one delivery didn't behave as he wished, he got annoyed.
 
England will not win another test in this series.

It is close to impossible to defeat a country which will shamelessly doctor pitches as soon as day 2 of a test match.

Stokes is a seasoned cricketer. He knows the ball kept unusually low. He would not react like this if knew something wasn't up.

4-1 is inevitable but only because BCCI will not allow a fair contest.

Otherwise the blind Indian fans might actually start asking questions as to why such a big money making machine can't provide comparable results.
 
hitthestump said:
England will not win another test in this series.

It is close to impossible to defeat a country which will shamelessly doctor pitches as soon as day 2 of a test match.

Stokes is a seasoned cricketer. He knows the ball kept unusually low. He would not react like this if knew something wasn't up.

4-1 is inevitable but only because BCCI will not allow a fair contest.

Otherwise the blind Indian fans might actually start asking questions as to why such a big money making machine can't provide comparable results.
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I‘m intrigued — how does the pitch get “doctored“ in the second part of the second day. Crawley played very fluently for his 70 odd, literally couple of hours earlier. Bumrah just bowled a magical spell.
The two best bowlers on display have been Anderson and Bumrah — hardly a case of India producing a rank turner to favour their spinners.

It has been a good Test wicket and so, so ,so much better than the dross that the Pakistani groundsmen regularly turn out.
Good batters got runs, good bowlers got wickets.
 
As fine a batsman as Stokes is, he keeps behaving like this. Similar reaction in the 1st test.

How is this low lol? Pitch was fine until Crawley played too much bazball and Root continued to be Bumrah's bunny.

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Mamoon said:
Stokes crying already? I thought Bazball was about playing fearless cricket and not worrying about the pitch, the opposition and the situation.

Love this meltdown and more to come as India humiliate Bazball with a 4-1 win.
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IND 28 for none in 5 overs tells you how the pitch is - all commies said Bumrah magic it was & remember , these guys were 114/1 in 22 overs when the disintegration started !
 
cricketjoshila said:
So Bumrah had a post match chat with Zak and KP. They both asked him about the Stokes reaction.

Apparently the ball was supposed to come in. And Stokes to expected the same. But the ball pitched and left Stokes.

That's why the reaction.
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This. Stokes keeps misreading Bhumrah.
 
Why do we need turning tracks, we need to play on good wickets: Ganguly

Jasprit Bumrah’s throbbing afternoon spell on the second day of the second Test against England here on Saturday made former Indian skipper Sourav Ganguly advocating for sporting pitches rather than preparing rank turners.

Bumrah homed in on Ollie Pope's stumps with a laser-guided yorker to dismiss the England batter for 23 off 55 balls, earning it a separate fan base altogether.

It wasn't entirely surprising then to see Ganguly, a lifelong supporter of pace bowling and sporting tracks, airing his views in favour of decks that keeps bowlers of all genres in the game, rather than just spinners.

"When I see Bumrah, Shami, Siraj, Mukesh bowl, I wonder why do we need to prepare turning tracks in India...my conviction of playing on good wickets keeps getting stronger every game."

"They will get 20 wickets on any surface with Ashwin, Jadeja, Kuldeep and Axar (for support)," Ganguly wrote on his X (formerly Twitter) account.

The former BCCI chief had also expressed a similar view during India's home series against Australia early last year, particularly after the Indore pitch earned "poor" rating from the ICC.

"Great to see Ashwin bowl so well on a good pitch... class will always show... Hopefully, this will be a good Test match...a good opportunity for Indian batsmen after some tuff wickets to bat on, in this series," Ganguly had tweeted during the Ahmedabad Test after senior spinner Ravichandran Ashwin bagged six wickets.

Here too, Ganguly hinted that the overall batting quality in the longer format has dropped in the last few years because of preparing pitches with quick results in mind.

"Batting quality dropping because of pitches in last 6 to 7 years at home...good wickets are a must... India will still win over 5 days," said Ganguly.

www.thehindu.com

Why do we need turning tracks, we need to play on good wickets: Ganguly

Former Indian skipper Sourav Ganguly advocates for sporting pitches to support all bowlers, not just spinners.
www.thehindu.com www.thehindu.com
 
FearlessRoar said:
Why do we need turning tracks, we need to play on good wickets: Ganguly

Jasprit Bumrah’s throbbing afternoon spell on the second day of the second Test against England here on Saturday made former Indian skipper Sourav Ganguly advocating for sporting pitches rather than preparing rank turners.

Bumrah homed in on Ollie Pope's stumps with a laser-guided yorker to dismiss the England batter for 23 off 55 balls, earning it a separate fan base altogether.

It wasn't entirely surprising then to see Ganguly, a lifelong supporter of pace bowling and sporting tracks, airing his views in favour of decks that keeps bowlers of all genres in the game, rather than just spinners.

"When I see Bumrah, Shami, Siraj, Mukesh bowl, I wonder why do we need to prepare turning tracks in India...my conviction of playing on good wickets keeps getting stronger every game."

"They will get 20 wickets on any surface with Ashwin, Jadeja, Kuldeep and Axar (for support)," Ganguly wrote on his X (formerly Twitter) account.

The former BCCI chief had also expressed a similar view during India's home series against Australia early last year, particularly after the Indore pitch earned "poor" rating from the ICC.

"Great to see Ashwin bowl so well on a good pitch... class will always show... Hopefully, this will be a good Test match...a good opportunity for Indian batsmen after some tuff wickets to bat on, in this series," Ganguly had tweeted during the Ahmedabad Test after senior spinner Ravichandran Ashwin bagged six wickets.

Here too, Ganguly hinted that the overall batting quality in the longer format has dropped in the last few years because of preparing pitches with quick results in mind.

"Batting quality dropping because of pitches in last 6 to 7 years at home...good wickets are a must... India will still win over 5 days," said Ganguly.

www.thehindu.com

Why do we need turning tracks, we need to play on good wickets: Ganguly

Former Indian skipper Sourav Ganguly advocates for sporting pitches to support all bowlers, not just spinners.
www.thehindu.com www.thehindu.com
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Exactly Ind are a decent side no need to resort to pitch doctoring producing tank turners.
 
Reminded me of this reaction by SRT

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hitthestump said:
Stokes is a seasoned cricketer. He knows the ball kept unusually low. He would not react like this if knew something wasn't up
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Lmao...

He reacted the exact same way when Starc bowled him with a Yorker in the 2019 world cup. I guess Australia "doctored" that Lord's wicket too for stokes to react like this.. 🤡
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I know it's hard to see India not capitulating against 'Bazball' like you guys did , but that doesn't mean you completely lose your brain cells and start talking feces.
 
Stokes is a way overrated batsman. Hardly any consistency. Is he among the top 10 test batsman of the players from his era? Ofcourse No.
 
Ab Fan said:
Stokes is a way overrated batsman. Hardly any consistency. Is he among the top 10 test batsman of the players from his era? Ofcourse No.
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And he hasn't bowled for a long time in tests.
 
Ab Fan said:
Stokes is a way overrated batsman. Hardly any consistency. Is he among the top 10 test batsman of the players from his era? Ofcourse No.
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He isn’t a great batsman, per se, but he is a player of great innings especially at clutch times
Of that there is no doubt
 
Stokes played one godly innings at home and his fans consider him to be the equivalent of Gary sobers.
 
gibsyhesperis said:
He isn’t a great batsman, per se, but he is a player of great innings especially at clutch times
Of that there is no doubt
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That also occasionally.

Not like Pietersen or Lara who were consistent too.
 
How could the pitch be bad when England were hitting 4s and 6s at will throughout the match & a spin magician like Ashwin went wicketless?
 
I don't believe in these doctored pitches in India anymore. I was convinced that India doctors pitches, but after they lost the final of the ICC World Cup 2023 to Australia, I am sure there is no such thing. These are only conspiracy theories.
 
Average test batsman was unable to play an ATG fast bowler, what’s the fuss about?
 
Buffet said:
Pitch is perfectly fine. Bumrah just bowled a gun spell otherwise India had around 400 and Eng would have gotten there as well.
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Spot on. Bumrah’s class spell is the difference in this Test match.

They have both been good pitches in this series so far, different to one another - this one has a little bit more in it for the bowlers perhaps - but a class performance with the bat can still register big runs as we’ve seen.
 
Maybe He Had Seen...": Bumrah Explains Stokes' Stunned Look On Dismissal

For someone who produced one magical delivery after another to record his best figures in India, Jasprit Bumrah feels there is no need to search for magic when the ball is reversing. The 30-year-old was an artist at work on day two of the second Test against England as he got the ball to reverse in three destructive spells across the last two sessions to end up with figures of six for 45 in 15.5 overs. It was largely due to his exploits that the hosts managed to clean up England for 253 and gain a substantial 143-run first innings lead.

The wily operator got the rewards for reverse swing in the series opener too but on Saturday, he operated at an even higher level.

The way he set up the likes of Joe Root, Jonny Bairstow and Ollie Pope by getting the ball to move both ways before trapping them was a treat to watch. It wasn't a surprise that the video clip of the booming inswinging yorker to castle Pope was circulated widely on social media.

Bumrah usually takes his failure and success in a matter of fact manner and it was no different when asked about his bowling effort in the post day media interaction.

"In first class cricket, if you want to take wickets in India, you have to learn to bowl reverse swing. Probably, I learned to bowl reverse swing before the conventional swing because you play a lot of cricket on slow wickets," said Bumrah.

"So you understand what you have to do over here. You have to find a way, what are the areas that you have to hit. So, yeah, in the nets, you practice all of those skills and try and execute (to get wickets)." On his thought process before bamboozling Pope, Bumrah said: "At that time, the ball was relatively hard. So yes, there was some reverse swing. In reverse swing, you don't have to bowl magical deliveries every ball.

"So I had bowled a few away going deliveries and then there was a thought going on in my head that what do I bowl? I should bowl a length delivery coming in or should I go for a yorker? But I had not bowled a yorker till then. I thought okay might as well take a chance with that and it did swing a lot. The execution was good, very happy with that."

The away swingers worked against Root and Bairstow, who were anticipating the ball to come back in. Bumrah doesn't like to rate his performances but considering the stage of the game, both those wickets were extremely important.

"I'm still playing, so hopefully more deliveries will come in my way. That phase was very important. To get Root and Pope at that time was very important for us because you understand that wicket does not do a lot and the wicket was a little on the slower side," he said.

For the second game in a row, England skipper Ben Stokes wore a bewildered look after being undone by Bumrah's brilliance. What was that expression all about? "I don't know what Stokes was thinking but I attempted an outswing but the ball went straight so I think maybe he had seen the shine and thought the ball would go away but it came in straight and he got bowled.

"We know he is a dangerous batsman at that moment when he bats with the lower-order as he bats with freedom and takes lot of chances," said Bumrah.

He has plenty of variations up his sleeve and the world has witnessed that especially in the shorter formats but Bumrah says one must understand the importance of patience in the five-day version of the game.

"Test cricket teaches you patience, isn't' it? When you try and bowl magical deliveries now and then, it doesn't work. Even if you have everything you don't need to use everything at one particular time.

"You understand what is working today and what is the need of the hour. Try to focus on the now. Earlier, if I have thought about taking six wickets, it has never worked for me. I have a lot of deliveries and you can confuse yourself. You need to shut that noise and focus on the next ball," he added.

NDTV

 
BaaliSoda said:
Like many batters before him Ben stokes made the delivery look much worse than what it actually was.

The pitch seems pretty good (in fact even better than the one from Hyderabad).

Thanks to Bumrah’s masterclass in reverse swing we are in good position in our 1st inning.
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It was a very good test match pitch with some assistance for everyone (especially for pacers with reverse swing but not so much for spinners, though).
 
After Sourav Ganguly's "Rank Turners" Post, Rahul Dravid's 'Clueless' Remark On Pitches

India head coach Rahul Dravid on Monday said the team management does not ask for rank turners while playing at home and it is tough to predict how a particular pitch would play out over the course of five days in a Test. The previous series against England in 2021 and against Australia last year were played on raging turners with most games ending within three days. However, the first two Tests against England in the ongoing series have gone on for four days.

While Hyderabad was a slow turner, Vizag surface remained flat for the major part of the match.

Dravid is someone who is regular with his pitch inspections before and during the game and a lot of times in between sessions as well.

His longtime teammate Sourav Ganguly recently said that India don't need to play on rank turners as they have a well balanced bowling attack.

When I see Bumrah Sami Siraj Mukesh bowl . I wonder why do we need to prepare turning tracks in india ..my conviction of playing on good wickets keeps getting stronger every game .. They will get 20 wickets on any surface with ashwin jadeja Kuldeep and axar .. batting quality…

Asked if more pitches like Vizag could be seen in the next three Tests, Dravid said he was clueless on the subject like anybody else.

"Curators make the pitches. We don't ask for rank turners. Obviously tracks in India would spin, how much they'll spin, how less they'll spin, how much. I'm not an expert, obviously, wickets in India in the course of four or five days, they do turn but how much they're going to turn.

"I sometimes get told they'll turn on the third day, but they turn on the first day. Sometimes I get told they'll turn on the second day and they don't turn till day four," Dravid said.

"So I'm sometimes as clueless as anybody else. We look at the wicket and we try and do the best we can on what we get. We go to Rajkot, we'll see what we can get and play with whatever we get in front of.”
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SOURCE: https://sports.ndtv.com/india-vs-en...rahul-dravids-sharp-clueless-response-4999722
 
Another excellent pitch. I’d love to see 3 more good cricket pitches and a close contest for the remainder of the series.
 
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