The Rishabh Pant thread

[Indiafan]

The only two wicketkeepers in history to score 100s in Australia, England and India

1) Adam Gilchrist

2) Rishabh Pant

And Pant scored 100s in his very first tours to England and Australia

 

[MenInG]

Rishabh Pant's whirlwind century against England on Day 2 of the fourth Test between India and England has left the cricketing world stunned, including Inzamam-Ul-Haq, who feels he is yet to come across a player as boisterous as the young India wicketkeeper.

So much so, that the former Pakistan captain feels he is watching a left-handed version of Virender Sehwag everytime Pant is batting. Inzamam reckons pressure has no effect on Pant, a characteristic he spotted in Sehwag.

"Rishabh Pant, absolutely brilliant. After a long time, I have seen a player on whom pressure seems to have no effect. Even if six wickets are down at 146, the way he starts his innings, no one does. He plays his strokes, irrespective of the pitch or how many runs the other team has scored. He is equally good against spinners and fast bowlers. I thoroughly enjoy watching him. It's like watching Sehwag bat left-handed," Inzamam said on his YouTube channel.

Inzamam, who was captain of the Pakistan team when Sehwag was at his peak – including India's 2004 tour of Pakistan where the explosive India batsman smashed a memorable 309 at Multan – pointed out the similarities between Pant and Sehwag, explaining how both batsmen do not consider conditions to be a factor while batting.

"I have played with Sehwag and he too didn't bother about other factors. When he used to bat, it didn't matter to him how the pitch behaved or what kind of bowling attack the opponent had. He just had to play his strokes, even if the fielders were on the boundary. After Sehwag, I have seen such a player, for whom nothing else matters," Inzamam added.

Inzamam, who has played against the Fab Four of Indian cricket in the 2000s, feels Pant is a rare cricketer, in the sense that the level of confidence he possesses is remarkable, probably better than some of the big players Indian cricket has produced over the years.

"Ever since I've noted, it's not that he's only doing it in India, he did it in Australia too. He didn't get to score centuries because he plays at his own pace. After a long time, I have seen such a player. India had Sachin, Dravid… now they have Virat and Rohit. But the way he plays, it's amazing. The kind of self-confidence he has is surprising. I haven't come across a player like him in cricket," said Inzamam.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...-wickets-in-test-cricket-101615167471636.html

 

[Ab Fan]

Rishabh Pant's whirlwind century against England on Day 2 of the fourth Test between India and England has left the cricketing world stunned, including Inzamam-Ul-Haq, who feels he is yet to come across a player as boisterous as the young India wicketkeeper.

So much so, that the former Pakistan captain feels he is watching a left-handed version of Virender Sehwag everytime Pant is batting. Inzamam reckons pressure has no effect on Pant, a characteristic he spotted in Sehwag.

"Rishabh Pant, absolutely brilliant. After a long time, I have seen a player on whom pressure seems to have no effect. Even if six wickets are down at 146, the way he starts his innings, no one does. He plays his strokes, irrespective of the pitch or how many runs the other team has scored. He is equally good against spinners and fast bowlers. I thoroughly enjoy watching him. It's like watching Sehwag bat left-handed," Inzamam said on his YouTube channel.

Inzamam, who was captain of the Pakistan team when Sehwag was at his peak – including India's 2004 tour of Pakistan where the explosive India batsman smashed a memorable 309 at Multan – pointed out the similarities between Pant and Sehwag, explaining how both batsmen do not consider conditions to be a factor while batting.

"I have played with Sehwag and he too didn't bother about other factors. When he used to bat, it didn't matter to him how the pitch behaved or what kind of bowling attack the opponent had. He just had to play his strokes, even if the fielders were on the boundary. After Sehwag, I have seen such a player, for whom nothing else matters," Inzamam added.

Inzamam, who has played against the Fab Four of Indian cricket in the 2000s, feels Pant is a rare cricketer, in the sense that the level of confidence he possesses is remarkable, probably better than some of the big players Indian cricket has produced over the years.

"Ever since I've noted, it's not that he's only doing it in India, he did it in Australia too. He didn't get to score centuries because he plays at his own pace. After a long time, I have seen such a player. India had Sachin, Dravid… now they have Virat and Rohit. But the way he plays, it's amazing. The kind of self-confidence he has is surprising. I haven't come across a player like him in cricket," said Inzamam.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...-wickets-in-test-cricket-101615167471636.html

So, now even the whole cricket fraternity has started to compare Rishabh Pant with the other greats like Virender Sehwag and Adam Gilchrist.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Rishabh Pant's whirlwind century against England on Day 2 of the fourth Test between India and England has left the cricketing world stunned, including Inzamam-Ul-Haq, who feels he is yet to come across a player as boisterous as the young India wicketkeeper.

So much so, that the former Pakistan captain feels he is watching a left-handed version of Virender Sehwag everytime Pant is batting. Inzamam reckons pressure has no effect on Pant, a characteristic he spotted in Sehwag.

"Rishabh Pant, absolutely brilliant. After a long time, I have seen a player on whom pressure seems to have no effect. Even if six wickets are down at 146, the way he starts his innings, no one does. He plays his strokes, irrespective of the pitch or how many runs the other team has scored. He is equally good against spinners and fast bowlers. I thoroughly enjoy watching him. It's like watching Sehwag bat left-handed," Inzamam said on his YouTube channel.

Inzamam, who was captain of the Pakistan team when Sehwag was at his peak – including India's 2004 tour of Pakistan where the explosive India batsman smashed a memorable 309 at Multan – pointed out the similarities between Pant and Sehwag, explaining how both batsmen do not consider conditions to be a factor while batting.

"I have played with Sehwag and he too didn't bother about other factors. When he used to bat, it didn't matter to him how the pitch behaved or what kind of bowling attack the opponent had. He just had to play his strokes, even if the fielders were on the boundary. After Sehwag, I have seen such a player, for whom nothing else matters," Inzamam added.

Inzamam, who has played against the Fab Four of Indian cricket in the 2000s, feels Pant is a rare cricketer, in the sense that the level of confidence he possesses is remarkable, probably better than some of the big players Indian cricket has produced over the years.

"Ever since I've noted, it's not that he's only doing it in India, he did it in Australia too. He didn't get to score centuries because he plays at his own pace. After a long time, I have seen such a player. India had Sachin, Dravid… now they have Virat and Rohit. But the way he plays, it's amazing. The kind of self-confidence he has is surprising. I haven't come across a player like him in cricket," said Inzamam.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...-wickets-in-test-cricket-101615167471636.html

Big words from Inzy.

 

[JattMaula]

Big words from Inzy.

And plenty lacking in facts too. While pant does back himself to clear boundaries despite boundary riders he is not rigid in his approach to scoring as inzi believes. He is perfectly happy to play 100 balls along grouds to tire out bowlers or get threw harder periods.

Match situation matters to him. Inzi probably has not seen India's last 2 test series. Pant has played well within himself plenty of time.

 

[OMB]

And plenty lacking in facts too. While pant does back himself to clear boundaries despite boundary riders he is not rigid in his approach to scoring as inzi believes. He is perfectly happy to play 100 balls along grouds to tire out bowlers or get threw harder periods.

Match situation matters to him. Inzi probably has not seen India's last 2 test series. Pant has played well within himself plenty of time.

IMHO, Inzy never said that pant is rigid. Read below which was for Sehwag

"I have played with Sehwag and he too didn't bother about other factors. When he used to bat, it didn't matter to him how the pitch behaved or what kind of bowling attack the opponent had. He just had to play his strokes, even if the fielders were on the boundary. After Sehwag, I have seen such a player, for whom nothing else matters," Inzamam added.

About Pant all he said that like Sehwag, other factors were never affecting their batting.

 

[RajBan]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. KL Rahul is doing fine in LOI's and allowing India to play extra batsman/bowler. Only if he is injured Pant should play in his place.

Pant plays ahead of Iyer as a batsman. If it's upto me, I will play Pant and Gill ahead of Dhawan in the 11 who has been inconsistent in recent years. But Kohli will fit in Dhawan as long as he can.

ODI line-up

Dhawan(Kohli will protect him but Gill, Padikkal are developing fast)
Rohit
Kohli
KL(wk)
Pant
Pandya(AR)
Sundar(AR)
Bowler
Bowler
Bowler
Bowler

T20 line-up
KL
Rohit
Kohli
Pant
SkY
Pandya
Sundar
Thakur
Varun C
Natarajan
Bowler

 

[Ab Fan]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. KL Rahul is doing fine in LOI's and allowing India to play extra batsman/bowler. Only if he is injured Pant should play in his place.

KL at 4
Pant at 5
Pandya at 6



Looks best and you get a left hander as well.

 

[Ab Fan]

Pant plays ahead of Iyer as a batsman. If it's upto me, I will play Pant and Gill ahead of Dhawan in the 11 who has been inconsistent in recent years. But Kohli will fit in Dhawan as long as he can.

ODI line-up

Dhawan(Kohli will protect him but Gill, Padikkal are developing fast)
Rohit
Kohli
KL(wk)
Pant
Pandya(AR)
Sundar(AR)
Bowler
Bowler
Bowler
Bowler

T20 line-up
KL
Rohit
Kohli
Pant
SkY
Pandya
Sundar
Thakur
Varun C
Natarajan
Bowler

I think Jadeja should continue as no.7. I am not too sure of Sundar's hitting ability and his ODI bowling also. Jadeja as overall package is very good.

In T20s, Sundar is a much better bowler and Jadeja is a better hitter.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

KL at 4
Pant at 5
Pandya at 6



Looks best and you get a left hander as well.

Looks best? Let's see whether it works best.

 

[RajBan]

I think Jadeja should continue as no.7. I am not too sure of Sundar's hitting ability and his ODI bowling also. Jadeja as overall package is very good.

In T20s, Sundar is a much better bowler and Jadeja is a better hitter.

I agree but is Jadeja available for Eng series? I was mostly referring to the current series, but if Jadeja is available he comes ahead of Sundar . Infact both can play in T20 with Natarajan and Shardul being the quickies.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

ODI line-up

Dhawan(Kohli will protect him but Gill, Padikkal are developing fast)
Rohit
Kohli
KL(wk)
Pant
Pandya(AR)
Sundar(AR)
Bowler
Bowler
Bowler
Bowler

KL at 4
Pant at 5
Pandya at 6



Looks best and you get a left hander as well.

KL Rahul is fine at 5. It requires him to play at a quicker pace and that's when he's at is best.

If they have to play Pant, it would be at No. 4, which would also be better for Pant because I don't think he would do well in the lower middle order. He would get to play himself in.

 

[TNAmarkFromIndia]

KL Rahul has scored 384 runs from 8 innings at an average of 54.85 and a strike rate of 113.94 batting at No. 5, by far his best stats for any position. His stats at No. 4 is average of 17.33 and a strike rate of 60.46. There's no reason to change his batting position.

 

[Indiafan]

Over rated Pant is now ranked no 7 in tests batsmen ranking, just below Babar Azam

 

[JaDed]

Over rated Pant is now ranked no 7 in tests batsmen ranking, just below Babar Azam

Highest points by an Indian WK.

 

[avihash]

Highest points by an Indian WK.

highest points by a player named rishabh pant.

 

[Buffet]

Over rated Pant is now ranked no 7 in tests batsmen ranking, just below Babar Azam

Has any other Asian keeper broken into the top 10 ranks?

Not someone like Sangha who gave up keeping and become one of the best batsmen, but someone who was a keeper and got into the top 10 ranks?

I don't think Dhoni broke into the top 10 anytime due to his inability to bat well outside.

 

[Buffet]

Rizwan is in good form and has lots of home games. I think he can break into the top 10 as well.

 

[MenInG]

India's limited-overs vice-captain Rohit Sharma on Wednesday asked the media to take the pressure off wicketkeeper-batsman Rishabh Pant, and said he will continue giving match-winning performances if he is left alone. Pant, who often finds himself under immense scrutiny, has turned his fortunes around with some match-winning performances against both Australia and England in recent months. Rohit Sharma, while addressing a press conference ahead of the T20 International series against England, said Pant can keep delivering more of the same if he is allowed to be himself.

While asserting that Pant can only get better from here, Rohit concluded by posing a question back to the media.

"We leave him alone and we allow him to play with freedom, and as the team management, we are prepared to do that. And I am going to ask you the same question, are you prepared to do the same?" Rohit asked.

"Let Rishabh Pant be Rishabh Pant and he will come out and give you those performances. I've said it in the past many a time that leave Rishabh Pant alone and he'll give you those performances," Rohit said, responding to a question on the wicketkeeper-batsman.

"He can only go from strength to strength. There is no looking back for him. So far he has done exceptionally well from Australia to the home series against England recently, he's performed really well," he continued.

"I don't see anything stopping unless you guys (the media) stop putting pressure on him," he said.

"The good thing about his game right now is he is starting to understand the game situation, and playing according to what the situation needs, which is good, as it is something that can tick off his personal box," Rohit concluded before his challenge to the media.

Pant's recent form in Test cricket has seen him earn a recall to the T20I side. India and England will begin their five-match series on Friday.

https://sports.ndtv.com/india-vs-en...ks-media-to-let-rishabh-pant-be-watch-2388051

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He threw his wicket again today. He needs to sort this issue as soon as possible if he wants to get anywhere near Dhoni in LOIs.

 

[Rajdeep]

He threw his wicket again today. He needs to sort this issue as soon as possible if he wants to get anywhere near Dhoni in LOIs.

He didnt threw his wicket away. It was leg stump half volley which he flicked and went straight to fielder. It was not a rash shot or anything....how is that throwing his wicket away? In T20 cricket players would play their shots and in the process would get out.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He didnt threw his wicket away. It was leg stump half volley which he flicked and went straight to fielder. It was not a rash shot or anything....how is that throwing his wicket away? In T20 cricket players would play their shots and in the process would get out.

Yeah that explains why we scored only 125 on this pitch.

 

[Ab Fan]

Hatred has no cure. In his short stay, he showed the glimpses that he has ATG potential and in the toughest format, he has already achieved one of the most toughest thing you can ask for.

 

[Rajdeep]

Yeah that explains why we scored only 125 on this pitch.

Final score has nothing to do with it. Players do get out trying to play shots and final score is lower than what is expected. The ball that Pant got out was on his pads half volley and flick shot would come naturally for any stroke maker. Unfortunately for him it went straight to fielder. Happens.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Hatred has no cure. In his short stay, he showed the glimpses that he has ATG potential and in the toughest format, he has already achieved one of the most toughest thing you can ask for.

Blind worshipping has no cure. I am speaking only on this match's performance. It has nothing to do with his ATG potential in the other format. Don't be so intolerant.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Final score has nothing to do with it. Players do get out trying to play shots and final score is lower than what is expected. The ball that Pant got out was on his pads half volley and flick shot would come naturally for any stroke maker. Unfortunately for him it went straight to fielder. Happens.

But this is not happening for the first time in his LOI career bhaijaan. He was dropped from LOI teams for these reasons. If he starts playing responsibly and finish matches like Dhoni used to do in LOI's I will praise him.

 

[Rajdeep]

But this is not happening for the first time in his LOI career bhaijaan. He was dropped from LOI teams for these reasons. If starts playing responsibly and finish matches like Dhoni used to do in LOI's I will praise him.

When he was dropped from the side he was in bad form in all formats. Now he has found his rhythm with the bat and it was just his first innings in white ball after ages. We need to be persistent with him as he will give long term benefits. Even today, he batted better than likes of Kohli, Dhawan, Rahul etc.

Dhoni was never good T20 international batsman and more of an IPL great. Think you are mixing ODI cricket with T20s. Pant will surely surpass him in T20 batting. Dhoni's captaincy is what kept him in T20 side for so long.

 

[pillionrider]

He threw his wicket again today. He needs to sort this issue as soon as possible if he wants to get anywhere near Dhoni in LOIs.

Take a break from this thread man.

It's not happening

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Take a break from this thread man.

It's not happening

What's not happening?

 

[pillionrider]

What's not happening?

Pant becoming a sorry failure

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pant becoming a sorry failure

What stopped you from saying this when he was out of LOI teams? Everything looks good when a player is in good form but fans like you run away from threads like these when the going gets tough. I was commenting on todays match. If he plays a good inning in the next match I will praise him without any hesitation.

 

[adil79]

Surely the OP meant Babar Azam. Pant has more than proved himself at international level. If this is how he plays naturally, he shouldnt be asked to change.

 

[shamaan]

The shot that pant got out to was ON but unfortunately it went straight to the fielder on another day it would have went for four.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

The shot that pant got out to was ON but unfortunately it went straight to the fielder on another day it would have went for four.

I am pretty sure I have read similar arguments from Afridi/Maxwell fans.

 

[Ab Fan]

I think Pant will retire as a better batsman than Sir Garfield Sobers. Now until he retires, you can't criticize me for this post

Come back 15 years later when Pant retires, only then you can criticise me for this lol.

Really, the inability to make sense is at another level.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I think Pant will retire as a better batsman than Sir Garfield Sobers. Now until he retires, you can't criticize me for this post

Come back 15 years later when Pant retires, only then you can criticise me for this lol.

Really, the inability to make sense is at another level.

Some of you have already called him Gilchrist 2.0 so yeah the inability to make sense is surely at another level here.

 

[Ab Fan]

Some of you have already called him Gilchrist 2.0 so yeah the inability to make sense is surely at another level here.

Come back 15 years later when he retires

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Come back 15 years later when he retires

Don't worry I won't lose my sleep over your prediction like some of you are losing over my prediction.

 

[leg-side-flick]

Jealousy and hatred has no cure

 

[Savak]

lol yea. I was wondering same. I’ve seen AB, Mccullum, Dilshan and the likes play even more outrageous shots against great bowlers
with an equal or stronger pedigree than Archer. I guess they don’t have the hype machine of a billion Indians behind them.

The hype behind this shot is real, show me one batsman who has reverse swept a fast 140 km/hr plus bouncer for six

 

[shamaan]

The hype behind this shot is real, show me one batsman who has reverse swept a fast 140 km/hr plus bouncer for six

What do you think of the shot Rohail nazir played against shaheen in the psl last year

 

[ataullah]

What do you think of the shot Rohail nazir played against shaheen in the psl last year

Just seen that. He was going to play the scoop but because ball was out side off he played reverse scoop. That answers the question that a pakistani batsman can play that shot.
Regarding shot against Anderson it can be played but no one tried it. Its just high risk against new ball so no one plays it. If there's a competition who can do it against new ball you will get over a dozen executing it. Its just silly questions and banter by fans which is nice too

 

[Kroll]

This Pant guy is good but he's a very cocky so and so. He can try all these crazy shots but his team will still get smashed by England. 'He deserves this humiliation.'

 

[Romali_rotti]

Did the job, 26 off 12... Nicely played..

 

[Ab Fan]

He doesn't need to learn how to finish games, he has already done it on the grandest stage a month ago when he destroyed GABBA ka GHAMAND.

More to come from him.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pant should learn from Kohli how to finish an inning and stay till the end. He keeps throwing his wicket away and doesn't learn. This game was no different. It will ultimately cost an important match in WC if he doesn't learn to sort this issue out. He has played 29 games so far and bats normally at 4/5 max. There should be no excuses of him playing less balls either. Let's see what he does in the next match.

 

[Mesozoic]

This Pant guy is good but he's a very cocky so and so. He can try all these crazy shots but his team will still get smashed by England. 'He deserves this humiliation.'

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He doesn't need to learn how to finish games, he has already done it on the grandest stage a month ago when he destroyed GABBA ka GHAMAND.

More to come from him.

Lol what? See this is the problem with you f@nboys. That series is over. We are in a T20 series now and will move to ODIs after that. Discussion will also move forward.

 

[OldWarHorse]

This Pant guy is good but he's a very cocky so and so. He can try all these crazy shots but his team will still get smashed by England. 'He deserves this humiliation.'

Cocky much?

 

[Indiafan]

Lol what? See this is the problem with you f@nboys. That series is over. We are in a T20 series now and will move to ODIs after that. Discussion will also move forward.

Indian fans supporting young Indian players. what a surprise right?

 

[docteurmanish]

Pant should learn from Kohli how to finish an inning and stay till the end. He keeps throwing his wicket away and doesn't learn. This game was no different. It will ultimately cost an important match in WC if he doesn't learn to sort this issue out. He has played 29 games so far and bats normally at 4/5 max. There should be no excuses of him playing less balls either. Let's see what he does in the next match.

He batted correctly . Kohli was to stay till end while other end accelerates . What’s the point of carrying 10 batters if ur strike rate is not 150 .
His approach was perfect today . This is the way india will play going forward . Bat deep . Bat hard . Bat aggressive . Anchor will be kohli or Ayer . All others will hit out at sr of 150 . World Cup template is ready.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Indian fans supporting young Indian players. what a surprise right?

Really? Didn't see you support Shaw and Samson anywhere?

 

[Ab Fan]

Lol what? See this is the problem with you f@nboys. That series is over. We are in a T20 series now and will move to ODIs after that. Discussion will also move forward.

LoL...Proper humiliation to Indian cricket haters given by Kishan, Kohli and Pant.

In T20s, you need one anchor and 4 hitters. Kohli is a brilliant anchor so we only need hitters and hence we chased down in 17 overs.

 

[Indiafan]

Pant should learn from Kohli how to finish an inning and stay till the end. He keeps throwing his wicket away and doesn't learn. This game was no different. It will ultimately cost an important match in WC if he doesn't learn to sort this issue out. He has played 29 games so far and bats normally at 4/5 max. There should be no excuses of him playing less balls either. Let's see what he does in the next match.

His role is as an enforcer so kohli, rohit etc can play around him. . The best t20 teams like England or pakistan don't wait for anyone to finish, they go bang bang bang to keep the strike rate up. We are playing with 6, 7 batsmen, no 4 or 5 dont need to finish matches but keep run rate up.


Players like babar, kohli, iyer have those roles, to stay till end, players like Pant will have to dominate batsmen and keep the run rate up even if there is a risk to lose wickets

 

[Indiafan]

Really? Didn't see you support Shaw and Samson anywhere?

Lol, shaw is my favorite and Samson is from my state

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He batted correctly . Kohli was to stay till end while other end accelerates . What’s the point of carrying 10 batters if ur strike rate is not 150 .
His approach was perfect today . This is the way india will play going forward . Bat deep . Bat hard . Bat aggressive . Anchor will be kohli or Ayer . All others will hit out at sr of 150 . World Cup template is ready.

Kohli isn't going to stay there in every game lol. This is how players learn to develop their game. This is how Kohli learned from Sehwag, Sachim, Yuvi and Dhoni. May be it is looking like an useless advice to you but the same thing happened in the semi final of the last world cup. He keeps throwing his wicket away. This is really going to hurt India in an important match pretty soon.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Lol, shaw is my favorite and Samson is from my state

Doesn't make any difference even if he lives in the same apartment you live. I didn't see you defending him after 36 AO game.

 

[Rajdeep]

Kohli isn't going to stay there in every game lol. This is how players learn to develop their game. This is how Kohli learned from Sehwag, Sachim, Yuvi and Dhoni. May be it is looking like an useless advice to you but the same thing happened in the semi final of the last world cup. He keeps throwing his wicket away. This is really going to hurt India in an important match pretty soon.

Cricket has changed from Sachin, Sehwag era. Have you listened to Kohli's press conference? Being the captain he asked his players to change the tactics in t20 cricket and show intent. Its the same tactics that worked so well for teams like Eng & WI where every players express themselves witnout worrying about their wicket. Our approach in t20 cricket in the past was wrong....good to see players expressing them more.

Anyone can get out in any game at any point. The semi final game you keep talking about, we lost 3 top order wickets for just 7 runs. Just because a match like that happened in the past dosen't mean players stop playing their natural game.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Cricket has changed from Sachin, Sehwag era. Have you listened to Kohli's press conference? Being the captain he asked his players to change the tactics in t20 cricket and show intent. Its the same tactics that worked so well for teams like Eng & WI where every players express themselves witnout worrying about their wicket. Our approach in t20 cricket in the past was wrong....good to see players expressing them more.

Anyone can get out in any game at any point. The semi final game you keep talking about, we lost 3 top order wickets for just 7 runs. Just because a match like that happened in the past dosen't mean players stop playing their natural game.

Lol what? Why was Pant dropped from LOI teams? What was the reason for his exclusion? What changes has he made in his game now?

 

[Rajdeep]

Lol what? Why was Pant dropped from LOI teams? What was the reason for his exclusion? What changes has he made in his game now?

He was dropped in all formats due to poor form and not specifically for that semi final game. Have you listened to Shastri's interview? He was given ultimatum post IPL and he worked really hard both in gym and in nets. The result was for everyone to see when he almost single handedly won 2 back to back test series againt Aust & Eng. After showing performance and form like that any team would give him chance in LOI cricket. Just because he failed in white ball cricket in the past dosen't mean the door is permanently shut on him.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He was dropped in all formats due to poor form and not specifically for that semi final game. Have you listened to Shastri's interview? He was given ultimatum post IPL and he worked really hard both in gym and in nets. The result was for everyone to see when he almost single handedly won 2 back to back test series againt Aust & Eng. After showing performance and form like that any team would give him chance in LOI cricket. Just because he failed in white ball cricket in the past dosen't mean the door is permanently shut on him.

Yeah that is why I asked you specifically why was he dropped and why did they give him an ultimatum? Was it because of his poor shot selection and getting out or only form? If your answer is former then what changes has he made now because he is still throwing his wicket away?

 

[Mahee]

what a player...breaking heads of his haters with his bat

 

[Rajdeep]

Yeah that is why I asked you specifically why was he dropped and why did they give him an ultimatum? Was it because of his poor shot selection and getting out or only form? If your answer is former then what changes has he made now because he is still throwing his wicket away?

He was dropped due to overall poor form which he adressed and came back as a better player. Not only his batting but his glove work improved as well.

He didnt threw away his wicket today...its the nature of T20 cricket where you play shots. As Kohli said in press conf, Indian team is trying to play a new fearless brand of cricket in T20s just like Eng & WI does. He also acknowledged the approach of Indian team in t20s was wrong. Likes of Jason Roy, Butler and Bairstow plays like that in every innings and thats why Eng is such a successful T20 side. India is trying to emulate the same

 

[pillionrider]

@Bhaag_Viru_Bhaag

What did you think of Buttler's drop off Kohli today. Is he worse than Pant as a keeper

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

@Bhaag_Viru_Bhaag

What did you think of Buttler's drop off Kohli today. Is he worse than Pant as a keeper

I never rated Buttler and don't care about him anyway so I am not sure what point do you want to prove. I am more interested in Indian players performances. For example : You could ask me about Kishan's batting today or Kohli's inning.

 

[NishanKonar]

But this is not happening for the first time in his LOI career bhaijaan. He was dropped from LOI teams for these reasons. If he starts playing responsibly and finish matches like Dhoni used to do in LOI's I will praise him.

Dhoni go out 1st ball to silly shots in both matches India lost in 2007 WC ( Bdesh & Sri Lanka ) & India got knocked out. Stop behaving like Dhoni was very responsible batsman from Day 1

Dhoni took 2-3 years to curb his natural instincts & become a good finisher. So lets give Pant some time to develop his game & become a better finisher

 

[Smbhayi]

Lol, shaw is my favorite and Samson is from my state

Didn't know you're a keralite

 

[Mesozoic]

You know things are real bad for you when you have to resort to rona dhona over a '26(13) in a 165 chase' knock.....

But honestly I understand. It has been endless trauma since late November.

First with Pandya averaging 105 in the ODI series and then winning the POTS in the T20Is.... And then the biggest and the most merciless slap of em all at the Gabbatoir delivered by Panty boy.... just days after another breathtaking knock at the SCG. Additional pain of seeing India win another series in Oz and also qualify for the first ever Test championship final by beating England 3-1.... both after getting hopes high up earlier on in the series....

Absolutely cruel.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Dhoni go out 1st ball to silly shots in both matches India lost in 2007 WC ( Bdesh & Sri Lanka ) & India got knocked out. Stop behaving like Dhoni was very responsible batsman from Day 1

Dhoni took 2-3 years to curb his natural instincts & become a good finisher. So lets give Pant some time to develop his game & become a better finisher

And Dhoni was also criticised by many fans at that time. Not only him even Yuvi, Raina, Sehwag, Dravid, Ganguly all players have gone through criticism in their careers so I am not sure why Pant can't be criticised in a discussion forum? It is not that we are going to his home and criticising him on his face or throwing him out of the team. Relax it is a forum where people will share their opinions/predictions.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

You know things are real bad for you when you have to resort to rona dhona over a '26(13) in a 165 chase' knock.....

But honestly I understand. It has been endless trauma since late November.

First with Pandya averaging 105 in the ODI series and then winning the POTS in the T20Is.... And then the biggest and the most merciless slap of em all at the Gabbatoir delivered by Panty boy.... just days after another breathtaking knock at the SCG. Additional pain of seeing India win another series in Oz and also qualify for the first ever Test championship final by beating England 3-1.... both after getting hopes high up earlier on in the series....

Absolutely cruel.

LMAO it's a bit rich coming from someone who was losing his mind when Kohli was scoring his 50 today. I can't criticise a player who averages just 20 after almost 30 games but its ok for you to do your rona dhona on a player who averages 50+ in T20s and took India to home. )

 

[NishanKonar]

And Dhoni was also criticised by many fans at that time. Not only him even Yuvi, Raina, Sehwag, Dravid, Ganguly all players have gone through criticism in their careers so I am not sure why Pant can't be criticised in a discussion forum? It is not that we are going to his home and criticising him on his face or throwing him out of the team. Relax it is a forum where people will share their opinions/predictions.

Well u need to Relax a bit. Can understand why u get hyper so easily when it comes to Rishabh Pant

But again he is just a kid - not some seasoned pro

Yes even those excessive criticism of Dhoni after 2007 WC or Yuvi after 2014 World T20 was disproportionate. Everyone has abd day

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Well u need to Relax a bit. Can understand why u get hyper so easily when it comes to Rishabh Pant

But again he is just a kid - not some seasoned pro

Yes even those excessive criticism of Dhoni after 2007 WC or Yuvi after 2014 World T20 was disproportionate. Everyone has abd day

I simply comment on his match performance like I did in the last match and did today also. You just need to read the replies I got to those posts and see who needs to relax here. Not to forget people who keep digging my old posts and do the hardwork of multi quoting and stuff. Shows who is getting riled up and hurt unnecessarily. Some like you were asking me to wait while some others reminded me of his peformances in Aus which has nothing to do with the current series lol.

Let me him play a good inning I will praise him. If he doesn't then I will criticise him too even if some of you lose your sleep over my opinion.

 

[Kroll]

Cocky much?

Bleeding English, you can always trust them to let you down!

Still, series aint over yet but looks like Eng have already bottled it.

 

[ftbno1]

Lol what? Why was Pant dropped from LOI teams? What was the reason for his exclusion? What changes has he made in his game now?

In 2016 wt20 sf India played almost perfect innings of 192 with pandya, pandey, jadeja yet to bat. They could easily have scored 220-230 if they had forced the issue but they played in themselves. The things which you are reffering belong to different formats and different conditions. Can you imagine what he has achieved. Even 23 year old Sachin and lara were not able to save their teams from impossible situations in Australia against probably their best bowling line up since 99-2007.

 

[BaankeJi]

Pant is making his detractors cry. It is time to switch sides as it is not going to end well for them.

Pant is going to master white ball cricket as well since board believes in him.

 

[OMB]

I simply comment on his match performance like I did in the last match and did today also. You just need to read the replies I got to those posts and see who needs to relax here. Not to forget people who keep digging my old posts and do the hardwork of multi quoting and stuff. Shows who is getting riled up and hurt unnecessarily. Some like you were asking me to wait while some others reminded me of his peformances in Aus which has nothing to do with the current series lol.

Let me him play a good inning I will praise him. If he doesn't then I will criticise him too even if some of you lose your sleep over my opinion.

Yes, he can be criticized sometimes. Like yesterday, he was playing so well and then he threw away his wicket when there was no need. Ishan Kohli partnership had already ensured Indian victory. The replay showed that even Kohli too wasn't pleased with that shot.
He needs to develop the hunger for runs as Kohli did. We already have Hardik Pandya to throw his bat around later on anyways. I am all for spectacular shots but not unnecessary ones.

 

[OMB]

Rishabh Pant difference between India and England cricketers' approach: Ian Chappell

Moved by the transformation of Rishabh Pant the batsman and also Rishabh Pant the keeper, former Australia captain Ian Chappell said the wicketkeeper-batsman’s demeanour was one of the major differences between the approach of India and England cricketers.

Pant, who was in and out of the Indian Test side, turned things around rather dramatically during the Australia tour and then carried his form into the England series to emerge as one of India’s genuine match-winners in the longest format of the game.

“One of the big differences between the approach of the Indian and English cricketers is easily identified in Rishabh Pant's demeanour in the recent Test series compared with that of Ollie Pope and Dom Bess,” Chappell wrote in his column for 'ESPN Cricinfo'.

Pant's 97 nearly changed the Sydney Test which India managed to draw while his 89 not out at Brisbane won them the series Down Under. Then to top it up, he hit a hundred under pressure against England in Ahmedabad to clinch India a spot in the World Test Championship final.

"Pant has produced three innings that changed the course of a Test with mature counter-attacking when the team was in trouble. Most players don't contribute that many in a career," Chappell wrote.

What went unnoticed in between all of Pant’s blitz with the bat, was his improved keeping in the last seven Tests that he played. Chappell said Pant went from fumbling to fabulous in a matter of weeks.

"Not content with just batting heroics, Pant has also evolved as a keeper when standing up to the spinners, going from fumbling to fabulous in the space of a few weeks," he wrote.

But what Chappell feels made the difference between two sides was Pant's daredevilry had the Indian team management's mandate, something that young English players like Dom Bess and Ollie Pope didn't have.

"Pant is a popular player in the Indian side and his spirit epitomises the team's confident, attacking approach to the game. England have players who could provide a similar stimulus to their team. What they lack is a conducive environment."

"The two young Englishmen became more tentative as the series progressed. Pope was keen to use his feet, but as his back foot continually craved the safety of the crease, it was obvious he was worried about being left stranded by the spinners.

"Bess appeared to be deflated by his omission from the Test team. With his confidence severely diminished, he bowled in the final Test, hoping that the ball would land on a good length rather than being confident of its destination," the cut-throat Australian was severe in his criticism of team management's philosophies.

What Chappell liked about Pant was how (he) took risks but also blended it with aggression.

"Meanwhile, Pant was scared of… well, nothing actually. The chirpy Indian keeper, armed with a supremely confident disposition, played each innings balancing aggression with appropriate caution. His approach of "see the ball and hit it" is a simple one but it's fortified by the common-sense approach of always looking for opportunities to score." The difference between two sides was whereas Indian batsmen tried to find ways to score, Englishmen were content by merely surviving.

"In most cases this sums up the difference between India and England's batting. The home side was constantly thinking about ways to score, while the visitors were preoccupied with survival," he added.


https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Bro [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] not sure why you get so much hatred. You have more respect for Indian legends like Dhoni and Yuvraj who these guys abuse and yet you’re not allowed to raise questions on a youngster’s game. Everyone deserves criticism especially if the criticism is measured and fair and takes into account both good and bad. I have seen nothing from you that even closely resembles what for example [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] does which is absolutely insult Pakistani players. You’re critical of Pant, not insulting, and yet these same guys love when the aforementioned poster talks about Pakistan in an insulting manner because it’s a narrative that tickles their fantasies.

To be honest I’m absolutely speechless at the kinds of comparisons being drawn here to Adam Gilchrist and Sir Garfield Sovers. I was watching an innings on youtube of Ijaz Ahmed in Australia cutting and pulling McGrath and smacking Warne on his way to something like 140 runs, and was thinking if this guy played for India he would be called greater than Bradman. In another match against Australia, Australia put up a total like 599-4 declared and he took the team to 400-3 by making 155 before getting out. Now imagine if he was Indian!

The sheer audacity of the claims and comparisons is phenomenal. Yes Pant is very good but he has yet to be tested in England of South Africa for example while he flopped for 19, 25, 12, 4 when India needed him against NZ.

Yes some genuinely good knocks in Australia and under immense pressure but how can you begin nominating him as the future greatest wicket keeper and equivalent to the greatest?

 

[Indiafan]

Bro [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] not sure why you get so much hatred. You have more respect for Indian legends like Dhoni and Yuvraj who these guys abuse and yet you’re not allowed to raise questions on a youngster’s game. Everyone deserves criticism especially if the criticism is measured and fair and takes into account both good and bad. I have seen nothing from you that even closely resembles what for example [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] does which is absolutely insult Pakistani players. You’re critical of Pant, not insulting, and yet these same guys love when the aforementioned poster talks about Pakistan in an insulting manner because it’s a narrative that tickles their fantasies.

To be honest I’m absolutely speechless at the kinds of comparisons being drawn here to Adam Gilchrist and Sir Garfield Sovers. I was watching an innings on youtube of Ijaz Ahmed in Australia cutting and pulling McGrath and smacking Warne on his way to something like 140 runs, and was thinking if this guy played for India he would be called greater than Bradman. In another match against Australia, Australia put up a total like 599-4 declared and he took the team to 400-3 by making 155 before getting out. Now imagine if he was Indian!

The sheer audacity of the claims and comparisons is phenomenal. Yes Pant is very good but he has yet to be tested in England of South Africa for example while he flopped for 19, 25, 12, 4 when India needed him against NZ.

Yes some genuinely good knocks in Australia and under immense pressure but how can you begin nominating him as the future greatest wicket keeper and equivalent to the greatest?

Dude check out his post history, he has a history of attacking Dhoni too. Its only now he praises Dhoni only to put down Pant. Not everyone is as gullible

Pant has a 118 in his first tour of England too

And are you saying if someone from Pakistan chased a 4th innings scores of 320 in Aus, he wouldnt be regarded greatly? Pakistan hasnt even drawn a single match in Aus for over 10 years, let alone win

Heck Amir is hyped to the moon for defending a score of 340 in final, a score which has never ever been chased. Yet a 23 old who had arguably one of the best over seas chases in history cannot be hyped?

 

[Ab Fan]

Dude check out his post history, he has a history of attacking Dhoni too. Its only now he praises Dhoni only to put down Pant. Not everyone is as gullible

Pant has a 118 in his first tour of England too

And are you saying if someone from Pakistan chased a 4th innings scores of 320 in Aus, he wouldnt be regarded greatly? Pakistan hasnt even drawn a single match in Aus for over 10 years, let alone win

Heck Amir is hyped to the moon for defending a score of 340 in final, a score which has never ever been chased. Yet a 23 old who had arguably one of the best over seas chases in history cannot be hyped?

Pant has won his team a test series win in Australia. That is as big as winning the World Cup in my opinion. Yet, if posters come up bashing and criticizing Pant every single match including even bilaterals and call out them that he will retire at average below 30 and is a Tullyabaaz, then they are the ones who need to learn how to behave and respect players who are achieving such big things for us.