The Rishabh Pant thread

[NishanKonar]

Pant has won his team a test series win in Australia. That is as big as winning the World Cup in my opinion. Yet, if posters come up bashing and criticizing Pant every single match including even bilaterals and call out them that he will retire at average below 30 and is a Tullyabaaz, then they are the ones who need to learn how to behave and respect players who are achieving such big things for us.

Thats the point

People keep talking about Dhoni but he never produced any landmark innings in SENA in tests Pant has done far greater in SENA tests than what Dhoni did in his entire career

If u check Dhoni - in his first 2 years he could be as careless as Pant is in ODIs. People take time to develop - like Dhoni did after 2007 WC , same with Pant

Its ridiculous how some posters who once called Pant as trash & now leap on to every opportunity bring down Pant bcoz it every tie Pant does well it hurts their bruised egos !

 

[NishanKonar]

Not to mention Pant is only 23

Check where Ganguly , Dravid , Laxman, Sehwag , Kohli were at the age of 23 !

 

[Pakhs]

I think the issue in this thread is most Indians are blinded by Pant exploits in just one or two innings in Australia similar to Fakhar exploits in CT where no Pakistani was able to digest any criticism against him. Yes he played 3 back to back clutch / great innings to win Pakistan an ICC tournament they have never won previously and to top it off spanked much fancied India in the final but its was obvious that just those innings alone will not elevate him hayden or jayasuriya level.

 

[Ab Fan]

I think the issue in this thread is most Indians are blinded by Pant exploits in just one or two innings in Australia similar to Fakhar exploits in CT where no Pakistani was able to digest any criticism against him. Yes he played 3 back to back clutch / great innings to win Pakistan an ICC tournament they have never won previously and to top it off spanked much fancied India in the final but its was obvious that just those innings alone will not elevate him hayden or jayasuriya level.

It is not 1-2 inning.

114 in England
159 in Australia
97 in Australia( 2nd best of all)
89 in Australia( best knock of all)
114 vs England at home

That is 5 great knocks already and at age of 23.

I am also not counting knocks like 90 odd vs England at home or his couple of 90s vs West Indies at home.


So, overall 8-9 knocks of 90+ already.

 

[Pakhs]

It is not 1-2 inning.

114 in England
159 in Australia
97 in Australia( 2nd best of all)
89 in Australia( best knock of all)
114 vs England at home

That is 5 great knocks already and at age of 23.

I am also not counting knocks like 90 odd vs England at home or his couple of 90s vs West Indies at home.


So, overall 8-9 knocks of 90+ already.

His only innings of note so far has been the ones he has played in Australia a couple of 90s. The 100 in England came on a flat deck in a losing cause many such innings have been played by many cricketers.

His 159 came in an innings where Jadeja got 80 odd and only got out trying to score quick runs and the wicket was so flat India could not bowl out one of the weakest Australian line up in history.

So that leaves us with two innings that should be remembered others are just okay knocks that many batsmen have played and can play certainly wont make you Gilchrist level. His innings against England at home was good watch but Sundar got 90 not out same times see what I mean by tinted glasses?

 

[Ab Fan]

His only innings of note so far has been the ones he has played in Australia a couple of 90s. The 100 in England came on a flat deck in a losing cause many such innings have been played by many cricketers.

<B>His 159 came in an innings where Jadeja got 80 odd and only got out trying to score quick runs and the wicket was so flat India could not bowl out one of the weakest Australian line up in history</B>.

So that leaves us with two innings that should be remembered others are just okay knocks that many batsmen have played and can play certainly wont make you Gilchrist level. His innings against England at home was good watch but Sundar got 90 not out same times see what I mean by tinted glasses?

Very good insights

 

[Pakhs]

Very good insights

How many did Jadeja scored? and was it a flat wicket? Flat even bu Australian standards.

 

[Ab Fan]

How many did Jadeja scored? and was it a flat wicket? Flat even bu Australian standards.

There was 2 days of rain which helped Australia draw the test or else they were not going to save that test.

And what has Jadeja got to do with this?

Ashwin, an inferior bat hit 100 in a game which you were whining as cheap rank turner. So, now according to you, whenever Jadeja scores, runs of other batsmen shouldn't be counted. )

 

[RyanRyan10]

Bro [MENTION=134981]Bhaag Viru Bhaag[/MENTION] not sure why you get so much hatred. You have more respect for Indian legends like Dhoni and Yuvraj who these guys abuse and yet you’re not allowed to raise questions on a youngster’s game. Everyone deserves criticism especially if the criticism is measured and fair and takes into account both good and bad. I have seen nothing from you that even closely resembles what for example [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] does which is absolutely insult Pakistani players. You’re critical of Pant, not insulting, and yet these same guys love when the aforementioned poster talks about Pakistan in an insulting manner because it’s a narrative that tickles their fantasies.

To be honest I’m absolutely speechless at the kinds of comparisons being drawn here to Adam Gilchrist and Sir Garfield Sovers. I was watching an innings on youtube of Ijaz Ahmed in Australia cutting and pulling McGrath and smacking Warne on his way to something like 140 runs, and was thinking if this guy played for India he would be called greater than Bradman. In another match against Australia, Australia put up a total like 599-4 declared and he took the team to 400-3 by making 155 before getting out. Now imagine if he was Indian!

The sheer audacity of the claims and comparisons is phenomenal. Yes Pant is very good but he has yet to be tested in England of South Africa for example while he flopped for 19, 25, 12, 4 when India needed him against NZ.

Yes some genuinely good knocks in Australia and under immense pressure but how can you begin nominating him as the future greatest wicket keeper and equivalent to the greatest?

In Pakistan nobodies like Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad were compared to Kohli and Tendulkar. Which *Indian* compared Pant with Sobers or Gilchrist?

Several Pakistan posters including you hype Amir for defending 338 and couple of good death over spells in WT20 2009. Same Amir has fooled you guys twice.

It has become a trend on this forum to call every Indian player overrated and discredit every victory of Indian team. One can understand if teenagers on Facebook and Twitter behave like this but it surprises me to see individuals following cricket from 3 to 4 decades doing such things.

 

[Devadwal]

Cameos in T20 cricket is really underrated - they might not be scoring the winning run but plays a big role, Rishabh Pant played one of those knocks yesterday and never give that momentum back to England - similarly, he has played against West Indies - 18(9) in 2019 T20 series.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

Dude check out his post history, he has a history of attacking Dhoni too. Its only now he praises Dhoni only to put down Pant. Not everyone is as gullible

Pant has a 118 in his first tour of England too

And are you saying if someone from Pakistan chased a 4th innings scores of 320 in Aus, he wouldnt be regarded greatly? Pakistan hasnt even drawn a single match in Aus for over 10 years, let alone win

Heck Amir is hyped to the moon for defending a score of 340 in final, a score which has never ever been chased. Yet a 23 old who had arguably one of the best over seas chases in history cannot be hyped?

I saw those posts regarding his post history. What’s wrong with criticizing Dhoni? There are many many things that even I would criticize yet Dhoni is one of my favorite cricketers.

There’s no such thing as putting down Pant. I have read almost every post from BVB on this topic and I assure you BVB is someone who will have similar respect for Pant as he does for Dhoni in 10 years if Pant comes good for India in more than just literally 2 series so far. When Pant wins the world cup (let’s say 2023 or 2027) for India as captain, scoring a century in the final etc etc, or even develops the entire Indian team to win all 3 ICC trophies plus provide a crop of youngsters to serve India for the next 5-10 years, feel free to tag him. He will be the first to appreciate it.

Why is it “putting down Pant” if he doesn’t agree with you that Pant is already a Gilchrist level talent? I just find that so ridiculous.

Regarding the “what if” on Pakistani batsmen please watch highlights of Ijaz Ahmed’s career innings against Australia and India. Then take note of the absolute lack of respect he has in Pakistan or the world community. The truth is, there are many cricketers who have had groundbreaking performances in individual series or even multiple series but there are more qualitative factors that must be accounted for until the quantitative factors weigh heavy enough to dispel any other assertions.

Pant plays some great shots and has good temperament, but this means absolutely nothing about what his career will look like. If you go through my post history you will find that I have myself mentioned that he has definite potential to become an ATG as batsman but to suggest that right now is a bit far fetched. Let him continue performing like this and we can revisit once he has established that these last 6 months were not just a purple patch.

Similarly, some people here are acting as if it is blasphemy to raise questions on Pant. I haven’t followed this thread close enough to know whether you are one of these people but if you scroll through you will find many such posters. As long as BVB is being respectful towards Pant, I see no issue.

On the other hand you have people referring to players as “rock thrower” and “thigh slap specialist” and these people get a free pass. Fair enough. They can say what they want. So why target BVB?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Dude check out his post history, he has a history of attacking Dhoni too. Its only now he praises Dhoni only to put down Pant. Not everyone is as gullible

Pant has a 118 in his first tour of England too

And are you saying if someone from Pakistan chased a 4th innings scores of 320 in Aus, he wouldnt be regarded greatly? Pakistan hasnt even drawn a single match in Aus for over 10 years, let alone win

Heck Amir is hyped to the moon for defending a score of 340 in final, a score which has never ever been chased. Yet a 23 old who had arguably one of the best over seas chases in history cannot be hyped?

Where did I praise Dhoni? I always said based on the form Dhoni was better than Pant during those days. I also said once the World Cup gets over Dhoni should retire. It is funny because few days ago you were calling me a blind dhoni fan and now you are singing a different tune. Let me make it simpler for you. Your buddies made me a Dhoni fan not me because I was criticising your golden boy Pant when he was failing. Learn to read properly. Also it's a bit rich when someone like you who said that 'Ishant Sharma will lose 100 tests for India' and who never supported another young player like Shaw(who you claim to be your favorite lol) have the guts to point fingers at me?

 

[leg-side-flick]

His only innings of note so far has been the ones he has played in Australia a couple of 90s. The 100 in England came on a flat deck in a losing cause many such innings have been played by many cricketers.

His 159 came in an innings where Jadeja got 80 odd and only got out trying to score quick runs and the wicket was so flat India could not bowl out one of the weakest Australian line up in history.

So that leaves us with two innings that should be remembered others are just okay knocks that many batsmen have played and can play certainly wont make you Gilchrist level. His innings against England at home was good watch but Sundar got 90 not out same times see what I mean by tinted glasses?

We need to put a new filter on stats, we can call it "Rishabh Pant filter", it should not take into account the following types of innings,

1) Innings on flat decks

2) Innings where other batsmen also scored more than 50, like Jadeja n Sundar in Aus

3) Innings where team lost

4) Innings where he scored but didn't keep well

Once you do this, we will get the true worth of his runs and then we can all bash him...

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

I saw those posts regarding his post history. What’s wrong with criticizing Dhoni? There are many many things that even I would criticize yet Dhoni is one of my favorite cricketers.

There’s no such thing as putting down Pant. I have read almost every post from BVB on this topic and I assure you BVB is someone who will have similar respect for Pant as he does for Dhoni in 10 years if Pant comes good for India in more than just literally 2 series so far. When Pant wins the world cup (let’s say 2023 or 2027) for India as captain, scoring a century in the final etc etc, or even develops the entire Indian team to win all 3 ICC trophies plus provide a crop of youngsters to serve India for the next 5-10 years, feel free to tag him. He will be the first to appreciate it.

Why is it “putting down Pant” if he doesn’t agree with you that Pant is already a Gilchrist level talent? I just find that so ridiculous.

Regarding the “what if” on Pakistani batsmen please watch highlights of Ijaz Ahmed’s career innings against Australia and India. Then take note of the absolute lack of respect he has in Pakistan or the world community. The truth is, there are many cricketers who have had groundbreaking performances in individual series or even multiple series but there are more qualitative factors that must be accounted for until the quantitative factors weigh heavy enough to dispel any other assertions.

Pant plays some great shots and has good temperament, but this means absolutely nothing about what his career will look like. If you go through my post history you will find that I have myself mentioned that he has definite potential to become an ATG as batsman but to suggest that right now is a bit far fetched. Let him continue performing like this and we can revisit once he has established that these last 6 months were not just a purple patch.

Similarly, some people here are acting as if it is blasphemy to raise questions on Pant. I haven’t followed this thread close enough to know whether you are one of these people but if you scroll through you will find many such posters. As long as BVB is being respectful towards Pant, I see no issue.

On the other hand you have people referring to players as “rock thrower” and “thigh slap specialist” and these people get a free pass. Fair enough. They can say what they want. So why target BVB?

I think they ignore my praises for Pant and only concentrate on the criticism. At least I praise him when he plays well but you will never see them criticising Pant even if he plays a bad shot. That's the difference between a real cricket fan and a f@nboy. They want everyone to jump on the hype train. I have criticised and praised the same players time and again whether its Dhoni or Kohli. I criticised Dhoni in tests but when Pant was throwing his wickets away then I thought during those days that Dhoni is still better than the current options. And I was against those who were blaming Dhoni for semi final loss because he was sent down the order by Team Management.

 

[Pakhs]

There was 2 days of rain which helped Australia draw the test or else they were not going to save that test.

And what has Jadeja got to do with this?

Ashwin, an inferior bat hit 100 in a game which you were whining as cheap rank turner. So, now according to you, whenever Jadeja scores, runs of other batsmen shouldn't be counted. )

For sure they should be counted but should not used as highlight innings for that bastman unless the bar is low.

 

[Pakhs]

We need to put a new filter on stats, we can call it "Rishabh Pant filter", it should not take into account the following types of innings,

1) Innings on flat decks

2) Innings where other batsmen also scored more than 50, like Jadeja n Sundar in Aus

3) Innings where team lost

4) Innings where he scored but didn't keep well

Once you do this, we will get the true worth of his runs and then we can all bash him...

Thats not true and not to the point... Point is he has not done much yet to justify tags like Gilchrist level talent etc. He has scored runs and played two good innings in Australia but to go with that he has had bad tours of England and NZ and also bad tests where his keeping has been well below international class keeper.

 

[Thunderbolt14]

In Pakistan nobodies like Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shehzad were compared to Kohli and Tendulkar. Which *Indian* compared Pant with Sobers or Gilchrist?

Several Pakistan posters including you hype Amir for defending 338 and couple of good death over spells in WT20 2009. Same Amir has fooled you guys twice.

It has become a trend on this forum to call every Indian player overrated and discredit every victory of Indian team. One can understand if teenagers on Facebook and Twitter behave like this but it surprises me to see individuals following cricket from 3 to 4 decades doing such things.

And the people who hyped those players on PP as tendulkar are rightly mocked. And bro just scroll through this thread you’ll find many Indians comparing Pant with Sovers and Gilchrist.

Regarding Amir - he had a very good spell but I actually prefer his spell in the 2009 T20 final. Don’t feel his spell was match winning, though it certainly was good. Anyways I also now feel his time is up and have been posting as such for 6 months now. Feel free to check my history.

And I actually disagree. On this forum and social media it’s become a trend to hype every other Indian player as an ATG and better than every Pakistani player who has ever existed or will exist. Now no doubt praise is given where deserved. Again check my history and comments when India won the series against Australia. I couldn’t have been prouder. I have also been hyping Pant up to some extent along with many other posters here including Pakistanis, but we are doing so with some caution because there are questions that are due to be asked. If I ask questions about Pant improving his keeping, or whether he can maintain this form or whether it’s a purple patch, that doesn’t mean I am discrediting him or India’s victories. There’s a difference.

If anything, it’s my humble request to you and others to stop making threads comparing Pakistanis to Indians such as “Haider vs Ishan Kishan” or making posts like “Musafir Khan and Sohail Nazir are good batsmen”. To tell the complete truth the number of Pakistanis on this forum seems to be dwindling by the day because of the sheer amount of negativity here — for negativity’s sake.

Know that India is very close to my heart as are all Indians. Would appreciate if Pakistanis were provided some respect too.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] did you intentionally skip the posts where he said that Pant's career will end up like Umar Akmal?
Secondly Pant won us the match at Gabba and saved the SCG test, MR BVB wanted Saha to take Pant's place. Lol.

Now that he has been proved wrong, he is using mental gymnastics to somehow force his point.

 

[Technics 1210]

BVB is spot on. You cannot judge a players career, let alone guess, based on a handful of initial performances.

Mohammed Amir was dubbed the next Wasim Akram

Priti Shaw the next Tendulkar.

Jonathon Trott the next Dravid.

The list goes on.

Speaking of which; there are players who started poor and ended up better. Warne is a very good example, and Tendulkar - who took 70+ ODI innings to score his first ODI century.

Time will be the judge; not some arm chair critics.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

BVB is spot on. You cannot judge a players career, let alone guess, based on a handful of initial performances.
.

Lol, He himself predicted that Pant will end up like Umar Akmal.

 

[Technics 1210]

Lol, He himself predicted that Pant will end up like Umar Akmal.

A predicition is very different to some Indian fans who have already judged Pant to be the next Gilchrist. Case in point, look at the posts from Indianfan. He has done nothing but pigeon hole stats in an attempt to prove Pant is the next Gilchrist. I mean, how desperate can you be when resorting to 4th innings Test stats?

 

[WengerOut]

A predicition is very different to some Indian fans who have already judged Pant to be the next Gilchrist. Case in point, look at the posts from Indianfan. He has done nothing but pigeon hole stats in an attempt to prove Pant is the next Gilchrist. I mean, how desperate can you be when resorting to 4th innings Test stats?

Check out some Younis Khan threads and you will start to believe cricket is only about 4th innings.

 

[Technics 1210]

Check out some Younis Khan threads and you will start to believe cricket is only about 4th innings.

Younis Khan wasn't being compared to say the next Lara was he?

If fans want to claim Pant is the Gilchrist, you'll need to include a couple of WC performances/wins at the very least. Until then Pant is a promising player who has a long way to go before he can be compared to Gilchrist.

Oh I forgot, the only reason why Pant is being compared to Gilchrist is because of wicket keeping. Pant has much work to do in this department alone.

 

[Last Monetarist]

Guys please stay on topic.

No more posts attacking individual posters or their opinions.

 

[Indiafan]

Younis Khan wasn't being compared to say the next Lara was he?

If fans want to claim Pant is the Gilchrist, you'll need to include a couple of WC performances/wins at the very least. Until then Pant is a promising player who has a long way to go before he can be compared to Gilchrist.

Oh I forgot, the only reason why Pant is being compared to Gilchrist is because of wicket keeping. Pant has much work to do in this department alone.

Actually younis khan was being called better than sachin based on those innings.

Also pant is being compared only in tests, not a single person said he has shown Gilchrist quality in LOIs. Its only and only his test performances which are being praised so don't know where this world cup win talks are coming from

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

[MENTION=151892]Thunderbolt14[/MENTION] did you intentionally skip the posts where he said that Pant's career will end up like Umar Akmal?
Secondly Pant won us the match at Gabba and saved the SCG test, MR BVB wanted Saha to take Pant's place. Lol.

Now that he has been proved wrong, he is using mental gymnastics to somehow force his point.

I think you will do pretty good in understanding other's viewpoint if you stop assuming things about posters and stuff words in their mouth. This thread is a pretty good example of who was forcing their opinion on whom. One guy talks about the inning in a just concluded T20 match and others attack him and remind him not to say anything because that player played a match winning knock in Australia.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Lol, He himself predicted that Pant will end up like Umar Akmal.

Yeah and what's wrong in that? This is a prediction which is much different to how some of you were calling him Gilchrist instantly after 2-3 good innings and when I questioned that you guys attacked me. Where as I didn't ask anyone to lose sleep over my prediction and don't care if you find it trash. I said it only once but you guys have repeated it 1000 times already and showing clearly how much it is hurting you guys lol.

 

[Technics 1210]

Actually younis khan was being called better than sachin based on those innings.

Also pant is being compared only in tests, not a single person said he has shown Gilchrist quality in LOIs. Its only and only his test performances which are being praised so don't know where this world cup win talks are coming from

So now further pigeon holing - only Tests? Is this why Pants T20 and ODI innings are also being discussed in this thread?

I may as well claim Babar Azam is the next Tendulkar - only in T20s

No, it doesn't work like that. If you are going to claim so and so is the next so and so, you compare the entire package - not cherry pick.

 

[Indiafan]

So now further pigeon holing - only Tests? Is this why Pants T20 and ODI innings are also being discussed in this thread?

I may as well claim Babar Azam is the next Tendulkar - only in T20s

No, it doesn't work like that. If you are going to claim so and so is the next so and so, you compare the entire package - not cherry pick.

Test match us the highest format. Smith is compare with Bradman and Sachin because of tests. No one compares Smith and Sachin ODI records. So when peole like you claim Smith is the best batsman if this era, and above kohli, why don't you compare the entire package?

Pants t20 is being discussed because this is a Pant thread. Not a single person compared Pant ODI with Gilchrist

 

[Technics 1210]

Test match us the highest format. Smith is compare with Bradman and Sachin because of tests. No one compares Smith and Sachin ODI records. So when peole like you claim Smith is the best batsman if this era, and above kohli, why don't you compare the entire package?

Pants t20 is being discussed because this is a Pant thread. Not a single person compared Pant ODI with Gilchrist

I know what Test level is.

Bradman only ever played Tests hence any comparison with him would be at Test level.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Still a long long way to go in T20Is. Keep working hard.

 

[hurricanes]

He is already more consistent than Gilchrist and can play better than Sehwag in challenging conditions. He will setup a Rishabh Pant benchmark by the time he quits. Nobody like him currently or in the past. Unlucky today.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

He is already more consistent than Gilchrist and can play better than Sehwag in challenging conditions. He will setup a Rishabh Pant benchmark by the time he quits. Nobody like him currently or in the past. Unlucky today.

Yeah. He has been unlucky in all 90% of the T20 games he has played so far.

 

[pillionrider]

Yeah. He has been unlucky in all 90% of the T20 games he has played so far.

Pant has played 31 matches now (28 innings). Let's compare that with another batsman's first 28 innings. It's almost identical.

Wanna hazard a guess who that other player is? Hint: He is a mighty T20 batsman.

Moral of the story and this thread: Calm down and give Pant some breathing space and time.

Pant:


Mystery Player:

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pant has played 31 matches now (28 innings). Let's compare that with another batsman's first 28 innings. It's almost identical.

Wanna hazard a guess who that other player is? Hint: He is a mighty T20 batsman.

Moral of the story and this thread: Calm down and give Pant some breathing space and time.

Pant:
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Mystery Player:
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Moral of the story is :
Pant scored 25(20) in today's match.

 

[pillionrider]

Moral of the story is :
Pant scored 25(20) in today's match.

Alright. I nominate you as Pant's unofficial scorer. You keep posting his scores here. Ok?

 

[pillionrider]

Pant has played 31 matches now (28 innings). Let's compare that with another batsman's first 28 innings. It's almost identical.

Wanna hazard a guess who that other player is? Hint: He is a mighty T20 batsman.

Moral of the story and this thread: Calm down and give Pant some breathing space and time.

Pant:
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Mystery Player:
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This is Buttler in case anyone was wondering.

 

[Technics 1210]

Alright. I nominate you as Pant's unofficial scorer. You keep posting his scores here. Ok?

Isn't that the point of the thread? Posting Pant's scores?

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Alright. I nominate you as Pant's unofficial scorer. You keep posting his scores here. Ok?

Only latest(today's) match scores which I remember. But you keep his and Buttler's overall stats close to your 56" chest though.

 

[pillionrider]

But you keep his and Buttler's overall stats close to your 56" chest though.

Now you're taking the easy way out to try and dismiss me. Not gonna happen

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Isn't that the point of the thread? Posting Pant's scores?

Nope we are here to discuss his gymnastics skills.

 

[Ab Fan]

Pant is seen as India's biggest match winner after what he did in Australia 1 month ago. That win was as big as winning World Cup.

His performance in last couple of matches once again proves that he can be a genuine match winner as he has massive potential, similar to say Rohit Sharma. Rohit debuted in 2007 and he was averaging in 20s till about 2013 before he turned it around.

Pant will get similar backing like Rohit. Other Indian players won't get similar backing because they simply don't have the potential and clutch factor as Pant has or Rohit had.

 

[Napa]

His only innings of note so far has been the ones he has played in Australia a couple of 90s. The 100 in England came on a flat deck in a losing cause many such innings have been played by many cricketers.

Incredible! You are ignoring the century he scored against England in the 4th Test in India when England looked set to take a first innings lead with India batting last. His innings changed a game that India needed to win to get to the WTC.

“Rishabh Pant Has Produced Three Match Changing Innings, Most Players Don’t Contribute That Many In A Career” – Ian Chappell

It is hilarious comparing Pant to Fakhar who played one of the luckiest innings I have seen in the CT17 final.

 

[Napa]

Incredible! You are ignoring the century he scored against England in the 4th Test in India when England looked set to take a first innings lead with India batting last. His innings changed a game that India needed to win to get to the WTC.

“Rishabh Pant Has Produced Three Match Changing Innings, Most Players Don’t Contribute That Many In A Career” – Ian Chappell

It is hilarious comparing Pant to Fakhar who played one of the luckiest innings I have seen in the CT17 final.

*needed not to lose

 

[Pakhs]

Incredible! You are ignoring the century he scored against England in the 4th Test in India when England looked set to take a first innings lead with India batting last. His innings changed a game that India needed to win to get to the WTC.

“Rishabh Pant Has Produced Three Match Changing Innings, Most Players Don’t Contribute That Many In A Career” – Ian Chappell

It is hilarious comparing Pant to Fakhar who played one of the luckiest innings I have seen in the CT17 final.

We are talking about comparing him to Gilchrist in which case the bar is high and innings like against England at home is not really that big when England spin attack is one of the worst in international cricket you can face and even Sundar score 90 odd or something like that and was looking even better for the most part. And just to add here he failed against England pacers in England so he feasted on poor spin bowlers innings was good but we are talking about comparing him to Gilchrist which is not justified at all yet.

 

[Ab Fan]

So, coming at 146-6 and then scoring a century and completely taking away the game is not a great inning lol. Talk about being so biased.

Pant has 7-8 good knocks already, it is not 1-2 as some posters tend to say. He is the next Gilchrist in making, this doesn't mean that he should already reach 6000 runs at average of 45 at age of 23.

But there are lot of good reasons why the whole cricket fraternity is comparing him with the likes of Gilchrist, Sehwag and even Jayasuriya.

The whole cricket fraternity can't be his f@nboy afterall

 

[OldWarHorse]

We are talking about comparing him to Gilchrist in which case the bar is high and innings like against England at home is not really that big when England spin attack is one of the worst in international cricket you can face and even Sundar score 90 odd or something like that and was looking even better for the most part. And just to add here he failed against England pacers in England so he feasted on poor spin bowlers innings was good

Didnt Virat n co fail against the same spin attack? Why bring up Sundar who looks a class player himself to compare Pant's innings..both played a different role and with different approach.
Does it bring down Rizwan's batting if Faheem Ashraf was also scoring runs in NZ tests? I dont get this logic. Anyway Sundar should be batting in top5 if the Indian team management has some foresight.

And again Pant has a test century at the Oval as well and that too in his first series. He has done well everywhere except the NZ tour where he was woefully out of form.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Once again got out in 20s with not so great strike rate. Now people know why I was saying that he should learn to stay till the end. Kohli won't be there everytime to save his strike rate.

 

[OMB]

Pant should have come in place of Pandya today. Not right to promote Pandya especially as there was no scoreboard pressure

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pant should have come in place of Pandya today. Not right to promote Pandya especially as there was no scoreboard pressure

I don't think he would have batted faster than Pandya here. His career strike is 123 which isn't that good under these conditions.

 

[Ab Fan]

He should be rested for ODI series. He had a pretty long and faboulous season this time. One to remember for ages

 

[OMB]

I don't think he would have batted faster than Pandya here. His career strike is 123 which isn't that good under these conditions.

Fair enough and all is well that ends well. So not complaining about Pandyas quick runs. Probably because Pandya hits more sixes than Pant.

I was then just talking about touching an established batting order. Sure they are all professional cricketers and wouldn't mind being shuffled up and down for a match or two but in this instance there was no score board pressure. Sending up Pandya gave out a signal that this and Kohli opening might be a permanent move.

Don't want a situation where it makes Pant feel a little less wanted. His strike rate of 123 looks less because he is trying not to get out early (understandable after criticism from TM). But strike rate of Pant zooms up after he scores 20 runs and he is destructive once he gets set. IMO, Pant and Pandya should be in that order.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Played/playing a good knock today but I am pretty sure TM will also change his batting order in the next match. At the moment no batsman apart from top 3 has a fixed batting spot in LOI teams.

 

[Ab Fan]

The next Gilchrist in making.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

The next Gilchrist in making.

Gilchrist in making is better than Gilly 2.0.

 

[WengerOut]

How about Gilly 2.0 Beta?

 

[OMB]

great innings.

 

[Indiafan]

Surely now there can be no debate that he needs to play all formats?

 

[Indiafan]

Pant's actual score - 81 of 40 balls (A 4 was not given )

 

[pillionrider]

Moral of the story is :
Pant scored 25(20) in today's match.

Moral of the Story is:
Pant scored 77 (40) today

You enjoyed?

 

[sensible-indian-fan]

Gilly gilly akka.

2.0

 

[AMSS]

He is Umar Akmal of India and I am only talking about his on field performances.

Unlikely I'll ever tire of quoting these )

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Unlikely I'll ever tire of quoting these )

The more you quote my posts and laugh, the more I am convinced that I really hit a nerve there badly. And that too for a pretty long time.

 

[Mamoon]

As expected, the “Pant is not good in LOIs” drama has also ended in tears.

Sensational, sensational cricketer.

 

[guna]

The people who are jumping up and down over Pant's tremendous form now must also support him when he down. Things can change fast.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

The people who are jumping up and down over Pant's tremendous form now must also support him when he down. Things can change fast.

They won't.

 

[Hasan123]

Pakistan fans who mocked Pant and didn’t rate him deserve the humiliation.

 

[cricketjoshila]

Pakistan fans who mocked Pant and didn’t rate him deserve the humiliation.

He is a rare talent. Perhaps the best wicketkeeper batsman in tests from Asia.

 

[Hasan123]

He is a rare talent. Perhaps the best wicketkeeper batsman in tests from Asia.

He's truly an amazing talent. Excited to see how he develops further.

 

[Snowflake]

As expected, the “Pant is not good in LOIs” drama has also ended in tears.

Sensational, sensational cricketer.

In who's tears bhai? Why does everything have to be so dramatic for you? If some people had that opinion, I am sure they had their reasons for it - right or wrong. I am sure no one is sitting in the corner and crying about the fact that Pant proved them wrong. Ended in tears! Geez! The drama

 

[rhony]

He is a rare talent. Perhaps the best wicketkeeper batsman in tests from Asia.

Did you see how he adjusted to the leg stump.line from T20s to this game. His front leg would go across and England capitalized on it in 1 game. Then he stopped moving that leg across the next game but didn't get the power to flick it and was caught again. In this game, his leg didn't come across but his strokes had more power. That's what good players do. They adapt and learn.

 

[Saurav]

Rahul-Pant at 4,5 seems much better than Iyer Rahul

Maybe try this in T20s too with Kohli opening

Rahul is good when hes forced to attack

 

[MenInG]

Inzamam-Ul-Haq, the former Pakistan captain, has made a bold prediction regarding Rishabh Pant, believing that the India wicketkeeper batsman can surpass MS Dhoni and Adam Gilchrist if he can continue his current form.

Pant has been unstoppable ever since his return to the Indian team during the tour of Australia last year. After scoring four fifties and a century in six combined Tests against Australia and England, Pant played an entertaining knock of 77 off 40 balls in the second ODI against England.

Although the effort came in a losing cause, Inzamam is highly impressed seeing Pant's progress in the last few months, believing the 23-year-old's range of strokes is simply amazing, and provided he can keep this glorious run of form going, he can very easily overtake two of the greatest wicket-keeper batsmen the game has seen.

"The one who gave India the boost in batting in the lower order was Rishabh Pant, who scored a brilliant 77 off 40 balls. Because of him, India's run rate spiked. I have been following him for the last 6-7 months, and the way he is batting and scoring effectively at different positions is amazing," Inzamam said of Pant in his YouTube channel.

"The way he expresses himself and the range of strokes he has, I have seen it only in two wicketkeeper batsmen in the last 30-35 years, MS Dhoni and Adam Gilchrist. These were the two wicket-keepers who could change a match. The kind of performance Rishabh Pant is giving, if he continues to play in the same manner, he will leave both of them behind, and by quite some distance."

Inzamam feels it was Pant's whirlwind knock that allowed India to post a mammoth total of 336/6, even though KL Rahul had played an equally brilliant innings, scoring 108 off 114 balls. Pant and Rahul added a century partnership for India's fourth wicket, with the younger partner hitting three fours and seven sixes during his knock and Inzamam credits Pant for providing the impetus to India in the last 10 overs which saw the home team score over 100 runs.


"It's not that KL Rahul batted slowly. His innings was magnificent, but the one that changed the match was Pant's 40-ball 77 and Pandya's 35 off 16. How they scored in 9 and a half overs made a difference," the former batsman said.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cric...ng-distance-inzamamulhaq-101616894840780.html

 

[Ab Fan]

Inzy has joined us in our hype propoganda it seems now

 

[globalcitizen]

The more you quote my posts and laugh, the more I am convinced that I really hit a nerve there badly. And that too for a pretty long time.

Keep your ego aside and praise a good knock. Trying to pick a low t20 score to justify Ur point is cringeworthy. Everyone here knows you are horrible in judging a talent..

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Played/playing a good knock today but I am pretty sure TM will also change his batting order in the next match. At the moment no batsman apart from top 3 has a fixed batting spot in LOI teams.

Keep your ego aside and praise a good knock. Trying to pick a low t20 score to justify Ur point is cringeworthy. Everyone here knows you are horrible in judging a talent..

Learn to read properly or you just don't want to? I actually praised his last knock in the match thread and here as well. Infact I praised all his good knocks but trolls like you try to act blind. As far as me judging a talent is concerned. I am mostly right in the end.

 

[pillionrider]

Learn to read properly or you just don't want to? I actually praised his last knock in the match thread and here as well. Infact I praised all his good knocks but trolls like you try to act blind. As far as me judging a talent is concerned. I am mostly right in the end.

Even a plant can praise someone when they score

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Even a plant can praise someone when they score

A Plant can also criticise someone when they fail but f@nboys/bhakhts like you can't.

 

[jeeteshssaxena]

You are just jealous. He is the next big thing. Just let him play 100 matches then he will start showing his potential to you guys.

Didn't take 100 matches.

 

[Bhaag Viru Bhaag]

Pant is making good use of his good form. An important 50 in an important match. Should use this opportunity to score his 1st ODI hundred here.