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Anyone who wins us a test series in Australia and has a game suited for LOIs should be given 100 matches to prove himself :inti
 
Fair to say, the whole cricket fraternity who are praising Pant are f@nboys and are no longer the same person they were till 2 months ago :inti
 
Ab Fan said:
I expect the same from you though :))
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Never cursed any player. I keep it related to their performances only. You will find fans who will bring off field things to criticise a player which I never do. I am also not a glory hunter like some of you. I am pretty sure some of you will stop supporting Pant when he goes through a bad patch. Infaçt some of you already did before Aus series. :inti
 
I think he has now safely cemented his place in all 3 formats for India
 
For those saying he can never be like Dhoni

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rishabh Pant completes 2,000 international runs as a Wicketkeeper. He took 60 innings to reach the landmark. MS Dhoni also reached 2,000 international runs in 60 innings.</p>— Mufaddal Vohra (@mufaddal_vohra) <a href="https://twitter.com/mufaddal_vohra/status/1376117642667249675?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 
lol some people think that saying "Well Played" is a big deal.

"Well played" is nothing but a rejected bail application from a prison of ridicule :inti
 
pillionrider said:
lol some people think that saying "Well Played" is a big deal.

"Well played" is nothing but a rejected bail application from a prison of ridicule :inti
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You post less on the topic and more on the intent of posters here. You are just trolling now.

His die hard fans will never criticise him but I can both critcise and appreciate him. :inti
 
Seems like a really good player from what I have seen. I guess the 'consistency' tag will be key to his development.
 
Pakistani posters secretly wish they had players like Hardik and Pant over whoever they think their equivalent are in their team that’s why they are a little harsher on these guys. I mean a poster who thinks he will pick Rizwan or Faheem over these guys is only lying to himself/herself to make themselves feel better.

Having said that with full sincerity I think Rizwan and Faheem both are very good cricketers and have a place in the current Pakistan talent pool.
 
If Rishab Pant does not end his career on the same level as Adam Gilchrist - he should be very disappointed with himself
 
Another match winning innings in a crucial last match. More than the innings themselves, Indian fans will be pleased by when these innings are coming, right in clutch situations.
 
Over-rated guy made the captain of his IPL franchise at just 23 years of age
 
Rishabh Pant appointed captain of Delhi Capitals as Shreyas Iyer has been ruled out of the tournament due to shoulder injury.

DC also feature players like Shikhar Dhawan, Ravichandran Ashwin , Steve Smith and Ajinkya Rahane and this year they will be playing under the leadership of GABBA fortress breacher, Rishabh Pant.

:inti
 
He just needs to keep his feet on ground and not be swayed by all the fame that he is getting.

He got chances in ODIs v England and grabbed it with both hands.

Making him captain of DC is a great move for himself as well as franchise.
 
Snowflake said:
Tbh, that is hardly a benchmark to rate a player.
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Which 23 year old becomes captain unless they are rated highly? Have you seen a dud player below 25 become captain? Smith and kohli became IPL captains at 22
 
Indiafan said:
Which 23 year old becomes captain unless they are rated highly? Have you seen a dud player below 25 become captain? Smith and kohli became IPL captains at 22
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Shadab became captain of Pakistan at 23 and not many rate him highly.
 
BreadPakoda said:
Shadab became captain of Pakistan at 23 and not many rate him highly.
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Shadab's bowling has been inconsistent but he's still highly rated as leadership material. Captaincy could help Pant. He's got Ashwin, Rahane (there is no other reason for him to be in the team), Ponting to fall back on.
 
Rishabh Pant has been named the captain of Delhi Capitals for the upcoming season of the Indian Premier League on Tuesday after Shreyas Iyer has been ruled out for the season with a shoulder injury. Saying that it is like a dream come true, Pant promised he would give his absolute best.

On his new role, Rishabh Pant said, “Delhi is where I grew up, and where my IPL journey began six years ago. To lead this team one day is a dream I’ve always harboured. And today, as that dream comes true, I feel humbled. I am truly grateful, especially to our team owners, who considered me capable enough for this role. With an amazing coaching staff, and a plethora of accomplished seniors around me, I can’t wait to give my absolute best for Delhi Capitals.”
 
Most international runs in 2021

Joe Root - 794

Rishabh Pant - 772

Rohit Sharma - 655

Virat Kohli - 532

Devon Conway - 524
 
Indiafan said:
Which 23 year old becomes captain unless they are rated highly? Have you seen a dud player below 25 become captain? Smith and kohli became IPL captains at 22
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IPL is a domestic tournament, so one of the main objective of the league is to help develop young cricketers. So, if a young Indian player like Pant is made captain, it can't really be used as a benchmark to judge his skill or competence.
 
Snowflake said:
IPL is a domestic tournament, so one of the main objective of the league is to help develop young cricketers. So, if a young Indian player like Pant is made captain, it can't really be used as a benchmark to judge his skill or competence.
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Weird how this didn't happen before in 10 years despite us having so many young players? Even when kohli was made captain at 22, it was temporary for one match as a stand in

Its hilarious you thinking that private business owners have a goal to develop talent and then in the next breath you will claim its a money hungry league


The mental gymnastics here is nauseating. Imagine thinking private business people goal is to develop Indian talent. you realize BCCI doesn't chose the captain and have no inputs right,
 
Indiafan said:
Weird how this didn't happen before in 10 years despite us having so many young players? Even when kohli was made captain at 22, it was temporary for one match as a stand in

Its hilarious you thinking that private business owners have a goal to develop talent and then in the next breath you will claim its a money hungry league


The mental gymnastics here is nauseating. Imagine thinking private business people goal is to develop Indian talent. you realize BCCI doesn't chose the captain and have no inputs right,
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6 out of the 8 captains in last year's IPL were Indians. You are telling me that all those 6 teams didn't have any oversees player that would've been a better captaincy candidate?
If you are still so deluded to think that, I can't help you.

Stop taking everything to heart. This is not a dig at Pant.
 
Very good move by the franchise team to give the captincy to pant it will help take more responsibility and put him in more preesure situations.
 
Snowflake said:
6 out of the 8 captains in last year's IPL were Indians. You are telling me that all those 6 teams didn't have any oversees player that would've been a better captaincy candidate?
If you are still so deluded to think that, I can't help you.

Stop taking everything to heart. This is not a dig at Pant.
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The point is not Indians being selected, the point is a 23 old being selected over the likes of rahane and Ashwin who both have captaincy experience and the later is a super star in his team

Man I have never ever seen someone jumping over points so fast when proven wronf, first it was to develop indian talent, then it was only because Indians can be captain


Using your same logic the team did not have any senior veteran Indian players rather than a 23 year old?

. Yes of course you are just undermining why a 23 year old pant was selected over seniors like Ashwin but totally not a dig, I swear
 
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Indiafan said:
The point is not Indians being selected, the point is a 23 old being selected over the likes of rahane and Ashwin who both have captaincy experience and the later is a super star in his team

Man I have never ever seen someone jumping over points so fast when proven wronf, first it was to develop indian talent, then it was only because Indians can be captain


Using your same logic the team did not have any senior veteran Indian players rather than a 23 year old?

. Yes of course you are just undermining why a 23 year old pant was selected over seniors like Ashwin but totally not a dig, I swear
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Not sure why it is so hard for you to understand - no one is jumping over any points. The points are still the same - in a domestic tournament like IPL, Indian players, no matter how young or old, will always get the preference when it comes to captaincy because it aids in their development and also brings in greater viewership from domestic markets/sponsors as those are household names vs overseas players. So, you can't conveniently say that the point isn't Indians being selected, when the evidence is right in front of you.

He's obviously a more logical choice as a captain in a domestic tournament compared to veteran Indians because it'll help the franchise ride the wave of excitement and bring in more eye-balls towards DC.

But again, that does not mean that you can use that to discredit someone who says Pant is overhyped. IPL is a domestic tournament and you need to understand that in addition to the world not revolving around it, getting captaincy in it cannot be used as a yardstick to measure the capability of a player.
 
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Snowflake said:
Not sure why it is so hard for you to understand - no one is jumping over any points. The points are still the same - in a domestic tournament like IPL, Indian players, no matter how young or old, will always get the preference when it comes to captaincy because it aids in their development and also brings in greater viewership from domestic markets/sponsors as those are household names vs overseas players. So, you can't conveniently say that the point isn't Indians being selected, when the evidence is right in front of you.

He's obviously a more logical choice as a captain in a domestic tournament compared to veteran Indians because it'll help the franchise ride the wave of excitement and bring in more eye-balls towards DC.

But again, that does not mean that you can use that to discredit someone who says Pant is overhyped. IPL is a domestic tournament and you need to understand that in addition to the world not revolving around it, getting captaincy in it cannot be used as a yardstick to measure the capability of a player.
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You must be kidding. Captaincy is a vote of confidence on one's ability. It's absolutely a yard stick to measure the capability of a player. It's an additional responsibility that is bestowed upon when there is confidence in the ability of the player to perform at his primary skill. He already is a premier batsman. He's the WK of the team and now he's the captain. DC just put their fate into the hands of a 23 yr old because they believe he will do all 3 jobs well.
 
Didn't Shreyas Iyer become Delhi's captain at 23? And he's still preferred over Rishab who is just, ironically, a temporary captain.

Point is, Pant is a solid player but him becoming Delhi's captain at a young age doesn't really prove a lot. His other achievements do.

Sanju Samson is RR's captain now but he's still an ordinary player.
 
The best wicket keeper batsman in the league right now. Always thought he was gonna be special when he got the hundred vs eng at oval early in his career.

He figured out his game and the role he needs to play for the indian team. Now hes flourishing, hes got a long career ahead of him in all 3 formats.
 
BreadPakoda said:
Didn't Shreyas Iyer become Delhi's captain at 23? And he's still preferred over Rishab who is just, ironically, a temporary captain.

Point is, Pant is a solid player but him becoming Delhi's captain at a young age doesn't really prove a lot. His other achievements do.

Sanju Samson is RR's captain now but he's still an ordinary player.
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Sanju is the captain because there's no guarantee that Butler will play the entire IPL. Delhi could have easily picked Ashwin but they chose Pant. Iirc he also captained the Delhi Ranji team. People in power think he's got the chops.
 
rhony said:
Sanju is the captain because there's no guarantee that Butler will play the entire IPL. Delhi could have easily picked Ashwin but they chose Pant. Iirc he also captained the Delhi Ranji team. People in power think he's got the chops.
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Your part about Butter not playing the whole IPL is factually incorrect. Kumar Sangakara who is RR director of cricket said they planned their team around Buttler ,Stokes, and Archer playing the full season. Chris Silverwood has said the English players will play the full IPL even if that means they miss the tests against NZ.

The reason I think RR didn’t go for Buttler as captain is because they don’t want to be in a position like they were last season where Steve Smith was horribly out of form . But they could not drop him as he was captain. So they went for an Indian captain.

Personally not sure on Samson as captain. It’s a completely out of the box move.
 
Hasan123 said:
Your part about Butter not playing the whole IPL is factually incorrect. Kumar Sangakara who is RR director of cricket said they planned their team around Buttler ,Stokes, and Archer playing the full season. Chris Silverwood has said the English players will play the full IPL even if that means they miss the tests against NZ.

The reason I think RR didn’t go for Buttler as captain is because they don’t want to be in a position like they were last season where Steve Smith was horribly out of form . But they could not drop him as he was captain. So they went for an Indian captain.

Personally not sure on Samson as captain. It’s a completely out of the box move.
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Wasn't there a speculation that Butler and Stokes won't be part of the final phases because of Nz test series ? The clarification came much later
 
rhony said:
You must be kidding. Captaincy is a vote of confidence on one's ability. It's absolutely a yard stick to measure the capability of a player. It's an additional responsibility that is bestowed upon when there is confidence in the ability of the player to perform at his primary skill. He already is a premier batsman. He's the WK of the team and now he's the captain. DC just put their fate into the hands of a 23 yr old because they believe he will do all 3 jobs well.
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There was more to my post than just the second half of the last sentence. Anyway, [MENTION=146594]BreadPakoda[/MENTION] has made the same point with additional evidence, so I'll leave it at that.
 
rhony said:
Sanju is the captain because there's no guarantee that Butler will play the entire IPL. <B>Delhi could have easily picked Ashwin</B> but they chose Pant. Iirc he also captained the Delhi Ranji team. People in power think he's got the chops.
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Well, they picked Shreyas over Ashwin and Dhawan earlier. So, why can't they pick Pant over those two given that Shreyas is unavailable?
 
rhony said:
Wasn't there a speculation that Butler and Stokes won't be part of the final phases because of Nz test series ? The clarification came much later
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There was speculation but once Sangakara said they planned to have the English players available throughout the tournament that was before it was clarified that they indeed would be available for the whole tournament.

Once Sangakara said they planned their team around the English players playing the full, I always felt that they would be available for the full IPL.
 
‘I’ll apply own experience and learnings from Dhoni’: Rishabh Pant looking to ‘do something different’ in CSK clash

Ahead of the first game, Pant expressed that he is excited to lead the DC in this year’s IPL and looking forward to making the most of the opportunity.

Wicketkeeper-batsman Rishabh Pant is gearing up to lead Delhi Capitals in the upcoming season of the Indian Premier League which begins on Friday. The newly-appointed skipper is looking forward to his team’s opening clash against Mahendra Singh Dhoni's Chennai Super Kings on April 11 and hoping to utilise the learnings he gained from the iconic former Indian captain.

Ahead of the first game, the 23-year-old expressed that he is excited to lead the DC in this year’s IPL and looking forward to making the most of the opportunity.

“My first match as captain will be against Mahi (MS Dhoni) bhai. It will be a good experience for me as I have learned a lot from him. I have my own experience as a player as well. I’ll apply my own experience and the learnings from MS Dhoni, and try to do something different against CSK,” Pant was quoted as saying in a DC press release.

The youngster has been through a roller-coaster ride in international cricket, achieving consistency in the past few months with his gutsy batting and drastically improved glovework. Pant, who has 2,079 runs in 68 IPL games, said he would be working hard to give DC its maiden IPL title.“...I am looking forward to making most of this opportunity. We haven't won a title yet and I will try my level best to get a title this year. We’ve been playing nicely as a team from last two-three years and our preparations are going on well,” he said.

“Everyone looks in great frame of mind. Everyone is giving their 100 percent and is happy in the team environment, and that's what you want as a captain,” he added.

Speaking about the influence of head coach Ricky Ponting on the team, Pant said, “He (Ricky) has been so amazing for us in the last two-three years. He brings energy to the team and as a player when you see your coach and you're thinking this is the man from whom you can learn a lot, then nothing is better than that.”

“Hopefully, we will cross the line this year, with the help of Ricky and the whole team,” he added.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/ipl-2021-i-ll-apply-own-experience-and-learnings-from-ms-dhoni-delhi-capitals-captain-rishabh-pant-looking-to-do-something-different-in-first-game-against-chennai-super-kings-101617706736173.html
 
That is not an ordinary thing for a cricketer': R Ashwin highlights what sets Rishabh Pant apart

Rishabh Pant's India and DC teammate R Ashwin commented on his new captain, saying the wicketkeeper batsman is blessed with an aspect in batting which sets him apart from the rest of the cricketers.

The IPL 2021 will produce a different challenge altogether for youngster Rishabh Pant, who will be leading Delhi Capitals in the coming season. Pant was appointed captain of the team Shreyas Iyer was ruled out due to an injured shoulder, and with fantastic batting form behind him, the 23-year-old would be hoping he can pass the captaincy test too.

Pant's India and DC teammate R Ashwin commented on his new captain, saying the wicketkeeper is blessed with an aspect in batting which sets him apart from the rest of the cricketers. The left-handed Pant, who made his return in the Indian team during the Test series against Australia and has been in belligerent form since, has produced brilliant knocks one after the other, and Ashwin feels people should give Pant and his captaincy time before jumping to conclusions.

"Many people say that he is fearless and all that. I think he is naturally blessed with a good bat swing. Lot of people crave for that bat swing. He is able to produce immense power; that is not an ordinary thing for a cricketer. I think that really sets him apart," Ashwin told The New Indian Express.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/ipl-2021-that-is-not-an-ordinary-thing-for-a-cricketer-delhi-capitals-spinner-r-ashwin-highlights-what-sets-rishabh-pant-apart-101617795923395.html
 
Rishabh Pant starts his captaincy career with a dominant win over MSD's Chennai Super Kings. The banton has been passed. :inti
 
Ab Fan said:
Rishabh Pant starts his captaincy career with a dominant win over MSD's Chennai Super Kings. The banton has been passed. :inti
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Dhoni retired. Baton to be passed between KL Rahul, Samson and Saha now.
 
London_Lahori said:
The guy gets ridiculous hype, however I'm yet to see anything which deserves the hype.

He's one of the worst, ugliest players I've ever seen, a downgraded version of Raina. Has no technique and is a back flipping Indian version of Umar Akmal.

I don't take heed of performances in the TPL.
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O Boy!! This hasn’t aged well I see!
 
Caught some replay of the DC- CSK game. Rishabh Pant sure seemed rattled in the middle when his bowlers were getting hammered- he might prove me wrong, but dont think he is captaincy material.
 
Rishabh Pant is already the greatest wicket keeper batsman that India have ever produced.

I am a proper test match cricket fan and for me, test series win in Australia is as big as winning the World Cup and Pant has won the test series in Australia twice while no keeper bat has won the World Cup twice for India.

Hence, to conclude, Pant is already the greatest wicket keeper batsman that India have produced and whatever he achieves from now onwards, his legacy will only go higher.
 
Ab Fan said:
Rishabh Pant is already the greatest wicket keeper batsman that India have ever produced.

I am a proper test match cricket fan and for me, test series win in Australia is as big as winning the World Cup and Pant has won the test series in Australia twice while no keeper bat has won the World Cup twice for India.

Hence, to conclude, Pant is already the greatest wicket keeper batsman that India have produced and whatever he achieves from now onwards, his legacy will only go higher.
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People with basic understanding of cricket know his quality. Cricket illiterates kept doubting obvious things but he has proven them wrong in most emphatic style.
 
MS Dhoni has, over the years, won hearts with his astonishing success as a wicketkeeper-batsman in international cricket. Scoring runs at a brisk rate, finishing games in limited-overs, captaining the side with distinction, using his unorthodox keeping skills to perfection, the 39-year-old has done it all.

Since his retirement, the cricketing fraternity, especially the Indian cricket, is looking upon Rishabh Pant to fill the void left by Dhoni. Being a like-for-like replacement, in terms of run-making and power-hitting, the 23-year-old has seen some of his finest moments on the cricket field in the last 5-6 months and is now leading Delhi Capitals (DC) in the entire IPL 2021 in Shreyas Iyer's absence.

As Pant commenced his captaincy journey in the IPL facing his master and idol Dhoni, in DC's game versus Chennai Super Kings (CSK) on Saturday (April 10), former Indian opener-turned-commentator Sunil Gavaskar had an interesting word of advice for Pant.

“It’s going to bring to the table an exciting game for sure. The one thing I would like Rishabh Pant to do when he goes out for the toss is that if there is no social distancing, I just want him to make sure that he doesn’t allow MS Dhoni to put his arms around his shoulders. That sometimes can be a sign of somebody who is saying ‘Listen, you’re a little guy, I’m the big guy’. So that little worry signal he should try and avoid,” said Gavaskar in a chat on Star Sports.

“He should walk a little distance away from MSD because now this is a big match. He should not be overawed by anything. Rishabh Pant hardly ever is overawed by anything. My feeling is that there might be just that little bit of respect. But it has to be off the field. On the field, you have to play your best and Pant has to now see that he has his team don’t get overawed by the aura of MSD. They go and play their natural game, aggressive game,” concluded Gavaskar.

Pant, who became the 5th youngest IPL captain, got off to a winning start as a leader following DC's comfortable 7-wicket win over CSK in Mumbai, riding on half-centuries from Prithvi Shaw (72) and Shikhar Dhawan (85). Dhoni, on the other hand, had a forgettable start to IPL 2021 with a duck after six years in the tournament. Not only did his side fail to defend 189, but the CSK skipper was also fined 12 lakh for slow over-rate.

https://www.timesnownews.com/sports...ound-his-shoulders-says-sunil-gavaskar/743700
 
Keeping aside MS Dhoni's success in IPL which is massive and Pant will take a lot of time to surpass that, as a test purist, it is fair to say that Rishabh Pant has surpassed MS Dhoni in test cricket and is already India's greatest wicket keeper batsman to have played the game.
 
51 for Pant today - seems to be enjoying captaincy at IPL
 
Rishabh Pant is a classic modern adaptation of living by the sword and also dying by it. Unfortunately for India, it was the latter in the World Test Championship (WTC) final on Wednesday against New Zealand. The left-handed wicketkeeper-batsman whose unconventional yet successful methods of batting in Test cricket got the experts talking in the last six months, tasted failure for sticking to the same audacious display of strokeplay when perhaps better shot selection was required.

Reacting to Pant’s innings of 41 in India’s second innings, in which the left-hander tried to force things by going down the track multiple times against New Zealand seamers, Sunil Gavaskar said ‘there is a thin line between carefree and careless.’

“There is a thin line between carefree and careless. Pant has at times breached the line of carefree and careless,” Gavaskar said during commentary on Wednesday.

Also Read | Vaughan dismisses Kohli's idea of best-of-3 finals for future WTC, Hogg agrees

“A couple of times he went for a big hit when he was in the 90s and missed an opportunity to score a hundred. The only issue with Pant is always going to be his shot selection; otherwise, he has a got the defence, got all the shots and technique,” he added.

Pant, who walked out to the middle after India had lost two quick wickets in the first session of the reserve day, continued to attempt high-risk shots despite getting an early life thanks to a dropped catch by Tim Southee.

The left-hander got two streaky boundaries while charging the fast bowlers but most of his attempts to throw the likes of Wagner and Southee off their line were unsuccessful.

While there is no doubt that Pant wanted to play his natural game, it was surprising that he went for another slog when India had lost six wickets and were actually looking to save the Test instead of pushing for victory.

India added only 14 runs to their total after Pant’s dismissal and were bowled out for 170, leaving New Zealand a paltry and yet tricky target of 139 in 53 overs.

In reply, New Zealand lost openers Tom Latham and Devon Conway to Ravichandran Ashwin but the experienced duo of Kane Williamson and Ross Taylor stitched an unbroken 96-run stand to take them home.
 
Pant out of everyone else in the Indian team actually came out of the match with his reputation intact or enhanced. Its only him and Ashwin who we can say had decent games.
 
Pakhs said:
Pant out of everyone else in the Indian team actually came out of the match with his reputation intact or enhanced. Its only him and Ashwin who we can say had decent games.
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Shami had a decent game too
 
Saurav said:
Shami had a decent game too
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Not good enough he was below par compare to opposition bowlers but better than Bumrah who has this worrying trend of going missing in big games. Ishant was on par with shami
 
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