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The Talent Spotter : Haris Sohail

Bullet Drive said:
I never said other teams don't have better/compareable talent did I? Did I even mention any other teams? No.

& laugh all you want. I'm a Pakistan supporter and thats where I see them in the future.

Well he may be 22 and he may not be. You don't know so stop assuming things. & what ever age he is he's definitely under 25 and that's relevant to my earlier post :)
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Yes you did. You said Pakistan will dominate world cricket which means you clearly believe all the guys you mentioned don't have a match. If you are hoping that Pakistan will dominate the world, well, so am I and every fellow Pakistani. But you made a big statement there without much substance.


I have serious reservations if he is under 25. For the record, according to Aamer Sohail, he is 32. Pretty sure he is exaggerating. He'll probably be around 27. But his age is not relevant to this topic or thread so lets leave it here and hope he keeps performing for years to come and as a batsman who doesn't put any effort into running and fielding, expect him to have a long career and hopefully a very successful one.
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
Yes you did. You said Pakistan will dominate world cricket which means you clearly believe all the guys you mentioned don't have a match. If you are hoping that Pakistan will dominate the world, well, so am I and every fellow Pakistani. But you made a big statement there without much substance.


I have serious reservations if he is under 25. For the record, according to Aamer Sohail, he is 32. Pretty sure he is exaggerating. He'll probably be around 27. But his age is not relevant to this topic or thread so lets leave it here and hope he keeps performing for years to come and as a batsman who doesn't put any effort into running and fielding, expect him to have a long career and hopefully a very successful one.
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Mostly people from Punjab are well built and strong, as compared to others in asia. I live in Saudi Arabia and i play cricket with Indians, Srilankans and with bangaladeshies. I can tell one thing with 100% surety that our 22-23 year old player look like elder than his age as compared to Indians, Srilankans or Bagladashies.

Even most of the Indian, Srilankans and Bdeshis who are living abroad and play with us, they feel the same.

so the concept of age with body or looks is different in all the countries according to the atmosphere and trend.
 
Haris sohail is not playing round 8th match against PQS
Babar azam replaced him
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
I have serious reservations if he is under 25. For the record, according to Aamer Sohail, he is 32. Pretty sure he is exaggerating. He'll probably be around 27. But his age is not relevant to this topic or thread so lets leave it here and hope he keeps performing for years to come and as a batsman who doesn't put any effort into running and fielding, expect him to have a long career and hopefully a very successful one.
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when did he say that? :harissohail
 
Mamoon_Ghaffar said:
Yes you did. You said Pakistan will dominate world cricket which means you clearly believe all the guys you mentioned don't have a match. If you are hoping that Pakistan will dominate the world, well, so am I and every fellow Pakistani. But you made a big statement there without much substance.


I have serious reservations if he is under 25. For the record, according to Aamer Sohail, he is 32. Pretty sure he is exaggerating. He'll probably be around 27. But his age is not relevant to this topic or thread so lets leave it here and hope he keeps performing for years to come and as a batsman who doesn't put any effort into running and fielding, expect him to have a long career and hopefully a very successful one.
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Proof, Source, Link???????????????????

I dont believe it
 
Another unbeaten century by Haris Sohail,MashaAllah.103* from 157 balls with 13 fours and 2 sixes striking @ 65.60.It would be a crime by selectors if he is not selected now for India series.
Another standout performance is by Sharjeel Khan 141 from just 131 deliveries with 25 fours and 3 sixes striking @ 107.63.Both play for the same team.
 
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bforme said:
Another unbeaten century by Haris Sohail,MashaAllah.103* from 157 balls with 13 fours and 2 sixes striking @ 65.60.It would be a crime by selectors if he is not selected now for India series.
Another standout performance is by Sharjeel Khan 141 from just 131 deliveries with 25 fours and 3 sixes striking @ 107.63.Both play for the same team.
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What a great talent is this lad, Harris Sohail, 100 after 100, he is must for Pakistan team.

and Sharjeel khan is another to watch, when ever he score he just dominate the bowling line ups.
 
I had heard a lot about and he is the only reason I saw a couple of games involving Sialkot in the CLT20, looked like a good prospect to me, esp the way he played in the 2nd game, he has a good domestic record and I think Haris Sohail should add great value to the Pakistani middle order, atm I'd say he can replace Asad Shafiq in the ODI line up, should be selected for India tour.

Hafeez, Jamshed, Azhar, Misbah, Haris, Umer A, Kamran A, Razzaq, Saeed, Gul, Junaid... appears to be a very formidable line up that... the only problem is they may still have only 5 bowlers, so if anyone has an off day then it will be difficult for the captain, may be one option would be to drop Haris and play someone like Malik or Afridi, but personally I'd like to see a talented lad like Haris get a chance ahead of regular failures like Malik and Afridi.
 
In great form. Sums up the situation very well. Chased down another target today without giving his wicket away. Top talent.
 
Bullet Drive said:
Only 21 but the main thing was it was another not out for him.
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I've become a big fan of this guy. Never throws his wicket away and makes sure he is there till the end to see it through for his team.. A must for middle order of Pakistan. Can be a revelation esp. during chasing a target.
 
sam_ahm said:
I had heard a lot about and he is the only reason I saw a couple of games involving Sialkot in the CLT20, looked like a good prospect to me, esp the way he played in the 2nd game, he has a good domestic record and I think Haris Sohail should add great value to the Pakistani middle order, atm I'd say he can replace Asad Shafiq in the ODI line up, should be selected for India tour.

Hafeez, Jamshed, Azhar, Misbah, Haris, Umer A, Kamran A, Razzaq, Saeed, Gul, Junaid... appears to be a very formidable line up that... the only problem is they may still have only 5 bowlers, so if anyone has an off day then it will be difficult for the captain, may be one option would be to drop Haris and play someone like Malik or Afridi, but personally I'd like to see a talented lad like Haris get a chance ahead of regular failures like Malik and Afridi.
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Well Said..!!!!!!
 
What a talent! Loves remaining notout and actually wins matches.
 
We badly need a left handed no 5 and looks like we have found one and he's much superior to the PP darling who can clear the boundary only if the 30 yard circle is the boundary :yk
 
There is no point just to pick a young player on tours & make him carry drinks. If he is on Indian tour, he must play & play in effective matches (Not after 2-0, either side); preferably at 5.
 
MMHS said:
There is no point just to pick a young player on tours & make him carry drinks. If he is on Indian tour, he must play & play in effective matches (Not after 2-0, either side); preferably at 5.
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MMHS , what do you think about the top order and umar akmal batting at 6?
 
JibranAnsari said:
MMHS , what do you think about the top order and umar akmal batting at 6?
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Wastage of capacity. Oblate PAK is suffering from too much to do in late overs. With the new ODI rule of 5 men inside the circle, every team should put their attacking players upfront (However, attacking proper players, not Afridis, otherwise with 2 new balls, it 'll almost every-time become 44/3). I feel, team is expecting too much out of Umar - almost always, he is coming at the asking over 6, & often with only late orders/tail to accompany. You need to give your better attacking players most of the overs. His best position is 3 or 4, though I believe, had he played for IND, they would have opened with him.

I think, the problem is with Hafeez's position - he is too self-centered not to go down by himself & too influential not to be dropped at 7. In last few months PAK has lost so many ODIs, due to the slow starts from top orders. Only quality match they won was against AUS in UAE when one of the top orders scored quick & big. Against IND, with Hafeez, Azhar & Misbah batting in top 4/5, PAK 'll need miracles to win a single ODI.

I would have played Nasir, KAkmal, Azhar, Umar, Haris, Misbah & Hafeez in my order, with Afridi floating in between (when 2 spinners bowling with 4 men on boundary). Don't think selectors 'll pick Shehzad, otherwise would have played him instead of Azhar & KAkmal @ 3.
 
MMHS said:
Wastage of capacity. Oblate PAK is suffering from too much to do in late overs. With the new ODI rule of 5 men inside the circle, every team should put their attacking players upfront (However, attacking proper players, not Afridis, otherwise with 2 new balls, it 'll almost every-time become 44/3). I feel, team is expecting too much out of Umar - almost always, he is coming at the asking over 6, & often with only late orders/tail to accompany. You need to give your better attacking players most of the overs. His best position is 3 or 4, though I believe, had he played for IND, they would have opened with him.

I think, the problem is with Hafeez's position - he is too self-centered not to go down by himself & too influential not to be dropped at 7. In last few months PAK has lost so many ODIs, due to the slow starts from top orders. Only quality match they won was against AUS in UAE when one of the top orders scored quick & big. Against IND, with Hafeez, Azhar & Misbah batting in top 4/5, PAK 'll need miracles to win a single ODI.

I would have played Nasir, KAkmal, Azhar, Umar, Haris, Misbah & Hafeez in my order, with Afridi floating in between (when 2 spinners bowling with 4 men on boundary). Don't think selectors 'll pick Shehzad, otherwise would have played him instead of Azhar & KAkmal @ 3.
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Spot on analysis , what about hafeez? What position should he play? I Think we suffer a lot because of hafeez opening.

1- he takes a lot of strike in the first ten overs and score slowly
2- he gets out when we think he is well set.
 
JibranAnsari said:
Spot on analysis , what about hafeez? What position should he play? I Think we suffer a lot because of hafeez opening.

1- he takes a lot of strike in the first ten overs and score slowly
2- he gets out when we think he is well set.
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No disrespect, but I don't think Hafeez deserves a place in PAK ODI side simply as a batsman, despite PAK team struggling for lack of quality batsman. He is the worst possible specimen of an ODI opener. If you take out his stats as opener against BD & other minnows, I think his average comes down to low 20s @ a SR of around 60 (that too inflated by a N.O. 50 against WI in a 10 wicket chase in WC).

As an ODI opener he is never in & somehow manages to get out exactly when you need your set batsman to stay. In ODI, either you open to be a blaster or play to hold 1 side. The is no problem if you average 23, but strike at 100; or you bat @ 60 SR but average 45+ so that other batsmen can go after. Biggest problem is Hafeez consumes lot of balls during PP & then gets out for 20s. In ODI, 23 of 38 are killer innings.

Hafeez is quite an intelligent cricketer, a good fielder & a very good economical bowler; but it ends there. He is not mentally tough & when ever opposition puts pressure on him, he throws wicket almost always to a wrong shot. Rameez was a similar player, but he was mentally tough, he would have either taken the pain & stay till end or blast away; that's why he had 8/9 centuries & a very good average in 80s & 90s context. At 32, I don't think Hafeez 'll improve either.

I had so many post here regarding Hafeez opening, that someone might think there is something personal; actually not like that. Woolmer played Hafeez at 6/7 & he was quite effective there. His best utilization is probably at 6 or 7, where he can either go after in a dominating situation or consolidate from a loosing situation. & I would have never made him ODI Captain, he is not tough mentally, neither outstanding as a player - Captaincy 'll take out whatever confidence he has in him & he with the team 'll suffer.

Nothing personal again, but I have seen both Hafeez & Malik (countless time) in Dhaka club matches live - any given day, for ODI, I 'll pick Malik over Hafeez as a player & definitely as a Captain.
 
Hafeez should replace Afridi at no 7 spot ..Simple

He is the worst ODI opener in Pakistan history.
 
MMHS said:
No disrespect, but I don't think Hafeez deserves a place in PAK ODI side simply as a batsman, despite PAK team struggling for lack of quality batsman. He is the worst possible specimen of an ODI opener. If you take out his stats as opener against BD & other minnows, I think his average comes down to low 20s @ a SR of around 60 (that too inflated by a N.O. 50 against WI in a 10 wicket chase in WC).

As an ODI opener he is never in & somehow manages to get out exactly when you need your set batsman to stay. In ODI, either you open to be a blaster or play to hold 1 side. The is no problem if you average 23, but strike at 100; or you bat @ 60 SR but average 45+ so that other batsmen can go after. Biggest problem is Hafeez consumes lot of balls during PP & then gets out for 20s. In ODI, 23 of 38 are killer innings.

Hafeez is quite an intelligent cricketer, a good fielder & a very good economical bowler; but it ends there. He is not mentally tough & when ever opposition puts pressure on him, he throws wicket almost always to a wrong shot. Rameez was a similar player, but he was mentally tough, he would have either taken the pain & stay till end or blast away; that's why he had 8/9 centuries & a very good average in 80s & 90s context. At 32, I don't think Hafeez 'll improve either.

I had so many post here regarding Hafeez opening, that someone might think there is something personal; actually not like that. Woolmer played Hafeez at 6/7 & he was quite effective there. His best utilization is probably at 6 or 7, where he can either go after in a dominating situation or consolidate from a loosing situation. & I would have never made him ODI Captain, he is not tough mentally, neither outstanding as a player - Captaincy 'll take out whatever confidence he has in him & he with the team 'll suffer.

Nothing personal again, but I have seen both Hafeez & Malik (countless time) in Dhaka club matches live - any given day, for ODI, I 'll pick Malik over Hafeez as a player & definitely as a Captain.
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Same are my thoughts about Hafeez that he should bat at number 7, do not agree with your assessment on Shoaib though.
 
7 is too low, wicket keeper should bat there.

Hafeez should bat at 6. In ideal situation, my lineup would be

Nasir, Azhar, Amin, Akmal, Haris, Hafeez(c), Sarfraz/Rizwan, Ehsan, Babar, Ajmal, Junaid

These players are chosen according to their recent performances in domestic.
 
SuperMAG77 said:
7 is too low, wicket keeper should bat there.

Hafeez should bat at 6. In ideal situation, my lineup would be

Nasir, Azhar, Amin, Akmal, Haris, Hafeez(c), Sarfraz/Rizwan, Ehsan, Babar, Ajmal, Junaid

These players are chosen according to their recent performances in domestic.
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Amin? :facepalm: who is a sitting duck against any kind of swing.
 
Then move him down and get akmal or haris up. Amin was a wild card in that lineup. i didnt remember anyone else at the time. Since Amin can bowl a little, i thought why not.

In that lineup, we have 5 main bowlers with hafeez. We needed partimers, Amin and Azhar can be those parttimers. You need to consider the balance of the team.

Like we have ehsan and babar who can hold the bat, do what gul / afridi does lol.
 
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Just in case you wanted more information on Haris.
 
Where has this guy disappeared to? With the emergence of Fawad and Umar, his chances are looking bleak for the test side- where he belongs. Selectors still need him on the radar as YK and Misbah have less than a year left.
Shehzad, Jamshed, Azhar, Fawad, Haris, Umar.....What a top 6 for when Misbah leaves with Umar Amin, Usman Saluhuddin, SMaqsood and a few handy openers on the sides.
 
Really need to see him in now. Its been absolutely ages. He is the man who will change our batting and is on equal terms with Umar Akmal in terms of talent. HARIS2.jpg
 
Bullet Drive said:
Really need to see him in now. Its been absolutely ages. He is the man who will change our batting and is on equal terms with Umar Akmal in terms of talent. View attachment 50969
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Must be a tremendous player - particularly playing in this days wickets in PAK domestic & playing mostly in North Punjab. He should have played 20+ Tests by now - a left hander with good technique & appetite for big score is like Gold at No. 4 or 5. However, his stats are a bit surprising - something like an athlete good in 100, 200 metres & 1500, 3000 metres; poor in 400 & 800. Not sure about ODI or T20 though - poor fielder & runner - I would have given a fitness target before even considering for ODI.
 
Ye he's a quality batsman but failing fitness tests year in year out with a belly pot highlights how lazy and uncommitted he is. In this day and age, you cannot have a long and successful career if you are not a good athlete. Simply scoring runs will not do if you are a liability between the wickets and in the field.

This is something Haris has to realize and unfortunately a lot of the people here don't care either just because he is scoring runs.
 
Needs to be slotted in by kicking out Shan and opening with Azhar/Hafeez or if Hafeez's still injured, Azhar/Taufeeq.

Shan can be included instead of Taufeeq, but he has literally made a joke out of merit by being fast-tracked to the Test team..

BTW [MENTION=131701]Mamoon[/MENTION] , guess who is the twitter guy cricroon that BD is promoting via these photos? ;-) ..
HINT: This twitter guy is promoting the same people BD promotes...
 
Wow - What can we say!

Well done to the lad.
 
cric said:
Traditionaly Pakistan hasn't produced many class left handed batsmen. Especially in middle order I don't remember decent left handed. His age and experience is perfect to make debut. He should really be drafted in team now.
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It took them couple of years to draft him, but boy did he grabbed with both hands.
 
Good start for Harris. Still has a long way to go but grabbed opportunity with both hands. People like Hafeez denied him for very long.
 
It feels like ages old thread.

Wasted 5 years of Haris Sohail.

He would have been a top batsman by now...
 
Bullet Drive said:
Really need to see him in now. Its been absolutely ages. He is the man who will change our batting and is on equal terms with Umar Akmal in terms of talent. View attachment 50969
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Shame on all those who couldn't identify such a world class talent.
I say screw stats this guy looks a million dollar when batting. His only weakness you can say is hitting big especially bouncers but that he doesn't need to in tests.
Other than that he is a complete player. I back Haris to score in seamers friendly conditions even over Root, Williamson and Smith.
 
MMHS said:
Was he in ur list of 25 to Dav? He is in my 25.


Some years back, I used to do voluntary scouting for few clubs of different level; had a very good database of the then Pak/Ind/Lankan domestic players - who were relatively cheap but with very good value for money players at our domestic level (often those were in early 20s, just on the verge of international call). Clubs hardly wasted money on my list.

Haven't seen Haris batting ever - can any one answer followings?

1. Is he hurried to play shots?
2. Does he bat with a low back lift?
3. Does he lofts spinners standing in the crease?
4. Is he a predominantly a front-foot player?
5. Does he scores more than 40% runs at "On-side"?
6. Does he uses bottom hand more than the top?
7. Does he try to hit boundaries rather trying to take singles under pressure?
8. Does he try to hit consecutive boundaries rather trying to get a single after hitting the boundary?
9. Under scoring pressure, does he try to play across, rather trying to loft straight or slash making room?
10. Does he scores more than 35% runs from blind areas (areas behind the stumps line)?

The more "No" he get, the higher he 'll go as a batsman.
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Almost 5 years since this post but still the guy is trying to justify his spot. Think, of the 10, 9 are no, only I am not sure about No. 7, though his innings against NZ was exceptionally calculated. So, I belivecst leadt 4 of those 5 years were robbed off him - by now he should have 100+ international caps.
 
MMHS said:
Almost 5 years since this post but still the guy is trying to justify his spot. Think, of the 10, 9 are no, only I am not sure about No. 7, though his innings against NZ was exceptionally calculated. So, I belivecst leadt 4 of those 5 years were robbed off him - by now he should have 100+ international caps.
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Which also means that according to [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] he should be retired in 2-3 years time if he is officially 28 years old :yk
 
Always maintained him along Babar can become world class players. So happy for him he's been through a lot.
 
shaz619 said:
Which also means that according to [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION] he should be retired in 2-3 years time if he is officially 28 years old :yk
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Remind him that Haris & Umar are almost similar age, boss won't bring that topic again.
 
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