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I think we should take a leaf out of IPL book and consider grooming captains in psl. Please no foreign skippers. Event

zalmi : Harris Sohail
Gladiators : Sarfaraz
Kings : Aamir/Azam
United : Sharjeel
Qalandars : Zaman
Multan : Abbas
 
If Fakhar Zaman does well in his ODI career then he could be a possible candidate for Sarfaraz's replacement. He led the Baluchistan team admirably well in the Pakistan Cup and was probably the only captain who gave untested youngsters the most chances, which led to him taking his side to the finals even though they didn't have any of the big ticket players like the other sides.

Harry Sohail has captained once or twice and he is another Umar Akmal when it comes to captaincy. Clueless and running around like a head-less chicken.

Sarfaraz we have already seen what we are going to get

Amir has very little chance of ever being a Pakistani captain because of his fixing past. Azam can be tried.

Abbas is too soft to ever be a good captain. How about Umar Amin or Sami Aslam.
 
I would go with


1. Imad Wasim
2. Umar Amin
3. Fakhar Zaman


No other Captaincy material out there.


If Salman Butt is ineligible for Captaincy than for me Amir & Sharjeel will be ineligible aswell.


Sarfraz is good enough for " PSL " pressure.


Haris, Abass, Babar aren't Captaincy material.


Babar Azam in field is like " Gawaachee Gaa-aan " ie a Lost Cow .



Every performer isn't a Captaincy material.


For Captaincy you need certain ingredients.
 
I would go with


1. Imad Wasim
2. Umar Amin
3. Fakhar Zaman


No other Captaincy material out there.


If Salman Butt is ineligible for Captaincy than for me Amir & Sharjeel will be ineligible aswell.


Sarfraz is good enough for " PSL " pressure.


Haris, Abass, Babar aren't Captaincy material.


Babar Azam in field is like " Gawaachee Gaa-aan " ie a Lost Cow .



Every performer isn't a Captaincy material.


For Captaincy you need certain ingredients.

[MENTION=138980]TalentSpotterPk[/MENTION] very good post specially last part.
 
Interesting idea - why not groom them from the beginning.

For Karachi, I would pick Imad Wasim - he may not be a complete cricketer, but he does seem to have it in him to become a good captain.

For Lahore, Fakhar Zaman - Zaman showed intent playing for Lahore in this year's PSL, so he might not be a bad choice.

For Quetta, Sarfraz is the obvious choice - albeit he does need to learn how to calm down in pressure situations.

For Islamabad, i can't think of any captains for a squad marred with spot fixing and controversy - letsee what the next year squad is like.

For Peshawar, I think they will stick with Sammy (given he was the prime player to tour Pak, so it makes sense why they would want him to have the privilege).
 
If Fakhar Zaman does well in his ODI career then he could be a possible candidate for Sarfaraz's replacement. He led the Baluchistan team admirably well in the Pakistan Cup and was probably the only captain who gave untested youngsters the most chances, which led to him taking his side to the finals even though they didn't have any of the big ticket players like the other sides.

Harry Sohail has captained once or twice and he is another Umar Akmal when it comes to captaincy. Clueless and running around like a head-less chicken.

Sarfaraz we have already seen what we are going to get

Amir has very little chance of ever being a Pakistani captain because of his fixing past. Azam can be tried.

Abbas is too soft to ever be a good captain. How about Umar Amin or Sami Aslam.

we have 'seen' sarfraz's captaincy minus the few ODIs which is not as empty as you point it out to be

fakhan zaman leading balochistan side successfully is the same as shoaib malik leading sialkot side successfully

sarfraz is the only guy who has had experience of captaining international teams successfully

removing sarfraz would only worsen the situation pak team is facing now that too undergoing a major phase change in the team

we need to give sarfraz time to settle his team and himself as captain, and not being desperate

in the mean time can groom under 19 players as potential captains after sarfraz retires
 
Sadly you can't call most of them young since they have already made it to 30...Its just a norm that we call Malik the oldest at 35 just because he debuted at 17 and not 28
 
we have 'seen' sarfraz's captaincy minus the few ODIs which is not as empty as you point it out to be

fakhan zaman leading balochistan side successfully is the same as shoaib malik leading sialkot side successfully

sarfraz is the only guy who has had experience of captaining international teams successfully

removing sarfraz would only worsen the situation pak team is facing now that too undergoing a major phase change in the team

we need to give sarfraz time to settle his team and himself as captain, and not being desperate

in the mean time can groom under 19 players as potential captains after sarfraz retires

Sarfaraz 'The successful Captain' needs a KP and/or Luke Wright. Has nothing to do with captaincy itself.
 
OT: What is the deal with Sharjeel Khan?

Is he going to return in your opinion?
 
Sarfaraz 'The successful Captain' needs a KP and/or Luke Wright. Has nothing to do with captaincy itself.

kevin peterson was also present to help sarfraz win under 19 world cup

kevin peterson also won the T20 games from england, westindies etc?

the PSL was T20 format and a guy needs a little adjustment with an inexperienced unreliable team to adjust his captaincy in one day format not to forget he has to work hard on his keeping first, he is an inexperienced captain just like shadab, imad, hasan ali and rest of the others in ODI

sarfraz captaincy is as old as shadab, imad wasim, hasan ali's career
 
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Atleast we can groom a vice-captain. I feel misbah, if he plays the next psl, should opt out of captaincy of Islamabad and hand it over to a youngster and groom him.
 
That is not how Franchise Cricket works. They are motivated with instant results, this is not the PCB where Sifarish, favouritism works. Sadly there are no young players whom you can instantly look at and be like this guy has leadership qualities, has the body language, attitude of a leader.

Like someone earlier once mentioned, you want to create a good impression on the franchise owners, senior management, coaching staff and press your case for leadership, be a good consistent performer (even match winner), have a ruthless work ethic in practice and a good example for others, participate in team meetings, share constructive ideas at all times.

The captaincy is not something which you can be given on a platter, you need to earn in.
 
Atleast we can groom a vice-captain. I feel misbah, if he plays the next psl, should opt out of captaincy of Islamabad and hand it over to a youngster and groom him.

doesnt work that way with pak players and captains...when MISBAH captaincy is removed he quit int'l t20 straight away.... i dont think he will do that, he will either retire or play as captain....
 
yeah honestly i don't think that will happen either...

I guess LQ and PZ are going to retain their captain which are Mcculum and Sammy. Yes there is a high probability that for Multan we will have a local captain, for KK it depends whether Sangakarra is still playing T20 cricket or not while for Islamabad United I guess as Misbah has retired from international cricket he might as well retire from PSL so we will have few candidates but they will most likely go with Watson.
 
Aik urdu ki kahawat yaad agaye, changing a bit "captaincy hai khala ji ka ghar nahi'

Sarfraz is a good enough captain and should be persisted with till 2019 world cup. What did you expect him to become a Messiah and win champions trophy? India has coach / captain problem and the captain calls the coach headmaster but they are winning. why? Because they have quality!

Pakistan dont have quality players. Time to accept it. 300+ is a par score in odis these days and we dont have such players. It isnt hard to accept. Babar Azam since his u-15 days is the best one day talent in Pakistan. Its time to back him and find players like Sharjeel. Similarly Sarfraz is groomed for captaincy since his teen days and delivered results. He needs backing. Also he is one of the few along with Babar and Amir who are an automatic choice in the side. There is no wicket keeper batsman in Pakistan who comes close to him. Not even the athelatic and good looking Rizwan.

These Imad Wasims , Umar Amins etc are not even sure about their position in the side and we should make them captain and tomorrow when they fail in an important series these posters will be the first ones asking to make a new captain and then a new captain after another series failure. What next make Sahibzada Farhan the captain because he looks cute and plays well on backfoot?

And no it was not all about KP doing things for Quetta. Mickey Arthur on mic said before the start of PSL final that Sarfraz for him is the captain of the tournament , there was no kp in the final and he pulled the side back with his good captaincy after PZ were going 55 for 0 in 6 overs.

These chopping and changing never work and haven't work for Pakistan. Fans are doing the same mistake which PCB have done since I started watching cricket in mid 90s.
 
I would go with


1. Imad Wasim
2. Umar Amin
3. Fakhar Zaman


No other Captaincy material out there.


If Salman Butt is ineligible for Captaincy than for me Amir & Sharjeel will be ineligible aswell.


Sarfraz is good enough for " PSL " pressure.


Haris, Abass, Babar aren't Captaincy material.


Babar Azam in field is like " Gawaachee Gaa-aan " ie a Lost Cow .



Every performer isn't a Captaincy material.


For Captaincy you need certain ingredients.

You should rule out Imad Wasim, as he is hardly valuable anymore in ODI cricket. Mediocre ODI player he is turning out to be.
 
I'd work on developing Sarfraz.

What we saw in the PSL was far different than his approach against IND. It seems like it'll take him time to settle but he's still a good fit.

Yes, if his bad habits continue, it might be time to look elsewhere.
 
Sarfraz can be a good option for Test and T20I cricket. He is not cut for ODI captaincy, as his place in the team can be vulnerable, if he continues to bat in the lower order. The only suitable option for ODI captaincy is Fakhar Zaman, as he has an impressive List A record, plus lead his side Balochistan to the final recently. As far as Imad Wasim is concerned, he is a mediocre ODI player, as he is getting exposed with time.
 
Atleast we can groom a vice-captain. I feel misbah, if he plays the next psl, should opt out of captaincy of Islamabad and hand it over to a youngster and groom him.

Agreed. I think he may also perform better if he withdraws from being captain.
 
There is one thing that Pakistan cricket fans need to understand, and the earlier they do, the better: PSL is NOT the beacon of your hopes. PSL is tournament consisting of private clubs owned by private individuals. They do what they want. It is their choice who they want to appoint captain or include in the team. They could appoint Zulfiqar Babar or Saeed Ajmal as captain and nobody would still be at any right to criticize them simply because unlike PCB, they run their franchise with their OWN wealth not taxpayer money.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, PSL does not owe you anything. The PSL, or any PSL teams are not responsible to give you any talent. If you get some good cricketers out of PSL, then that's your luck, be happy. Take what you get but if they choose to play retired players, tried and tested failures or even players from Uganda, nobody is at right to comment - which is why I think we should stop pinning all our hopes onto PSL because PSL is not responsible for them. Our domestic competitions like the Quad-E-Azam trophy or the Pakistan cup are responsible for those. While the PSL is still under PCB as it organizes everything, the teams are not.

Take IPL for example. IPL has produced gems for cricketing nations around the world. Morris struggled to find a spot in the South Africa A team but a good IPL has turned him into a regular for the national team. Does this mean that South African fans start pinning their hopes onto the IPL and criticize private franchise owners for not doing something that would be better for the cause of South African cricket? No. They take what they get. What if BPL selects Sadaf Hussain next year and he has a great tournament, will we start expecting them to produce players for us every year? Just because PSL has 'Pakistan' in its name doesn't mean it owes us anything.

Frankly, team owners will get players who sell, instead of players who have ability but aren't famous. Wake up, we're in 2017. Cricket is more than just a sport. It's a business. Teams will still try to rope in Shahid Afridi even when he's 44 for how big a name he is, not just in Pakistan but around the world. That's the reality. If PSL wants to groom captains, do it in the domestic competitions. If the PCB wants to develop players, make better training facilities. Stop pinning your hopes on PSL.
 
PSL should definitely be the breeding ground for grooming future captains and players.

Other than Peshwar where Sammy has done a decent job, other 5 franchises should appoint young Pakistan players as captain.
 
You should rule out Imad Wasim, as he is hardly valuable anymore in ODI cricket. Mediocre ODI player he is turning out to be.


I agree that his current performances have been horrible. He needs to get back in shape physically and improve his batting. He was excellent as a batsman in series vs England in England. That is exactly what is required of him. He won't learn to spin the ball with that action so his drift will be his weapon. He is an excellent tactician & leader.
 
That is not how Franchise Cricket works. They are motivated with instant results, this is not the PCB where Sifarish, favouritism works. Sadly there are no young players whom you can instantly look at and be like this guy has leadership qualities, has the body language, attitude of a leader.

Like someone earlier once mentioned, you want to create a good impression on the franchise owners, senior management, coaching staff and press your case for leadership, be a good consistent performer (even match winner), have a ruthless work ethic in practice and a good example for others, participate in team meetings, share constructive ideas at all times.

The captaincy is not something which you can be given on a platter, you need to earn in.

Our fans fail to realize what franchise cricket is about. Reminds when the same PP fans were angry that certain players weren't picked by their home city. No PSL team should pick a captain to be 'groomed' for the Pakistan gig. Captains in the PSL are picked on preference or 'star power' that can pull support and be ambassadors of their franchises. PSL is just a big stage where players get a chance to show what they can do in a competitive environment. If these fans really want to groom young players for captaincy then it should be through their club/regional teams
 
Well the management doesn't seem to choose the domestic captains wisely either... Umer akmal for Punjab and Anwar Ali for Sindh in the Pakistan Cup... i mean seriously can you even imagine them becoming a vice-captain for Pakistan Team :|
 
Sarfraz can be a good option for Test and T20I cricket. He is not cut for ODI captaincy, as his place in the team can be vulnerable, if he continues to bat in the lower order. The only suitable option for ODI captaincy is Fakhar Zaman, as he has an impressive List A record, plus lead his side Balochistan to the final recently. As far as Imad Wasim is concerned, he is a mediocre ODI player, as he is getting exposed with time.

Sarfraz is the best one day captain in the country. Only Zohaib Khan of Peshawar comes close to him.
Other kids dont have enough experience even if we include in club cricket. Either they are not good or not experienced enough. Captaincy requires experience.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PSL 4 captains:<br><br>Karachi Kings - Imad Wasim<br>Lahore Qalandars - Mohammad Hafeez<br>Peshawar Zalmi - Darren Sammy<br>6th Team - Shoaib Malik<br>Quetta Gladiators - Sarfaraz Ahmed<br>Islamabad United - Not finalised yet<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL2019?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL2019</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1065318695994646529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PSL 4 captains:<br><br>Karachi Kings - Imad Wasim<br>Lahore Qalandars - Mohammad Hafeez<br>Peshawar Zalmi - Darren Sammy<br>6th Team - Shoaib Malik<br>Quetta Gladiators - Sarfaraz Ahmed<br>Islamabad United - Not finalised yet<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL2019?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL2019</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1065318695994646529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Hope ISd goes with Shadab or Fahim.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">PSL 4 captains:<br><br>Karachi Kings - Imad Wasim<br>Lahore Qalandars - Mohammad Hafeez<br>Peshawar Zalmi - Darren Sammy<br>6th Team - Shoaib Malik<br>Quetta Gladiators - Sarfaraz Ahmed<br>Islamabad United - Not finalised yet<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PSL2019?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PSL2019</a></p>— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1065318695994646529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 21, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Must be shadab Khan</p>— Hassan Ali (@RealHa55an) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealHa55an/status/1065529692344721408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Must be shadab Khan</p>— Hassan Ali (@RealHa55an) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealHa55an/status/1065529692344721408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 22, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Lol ofcourse. They're best buddies.
 
Hope ISd goes with Shadab or Fahim.


It's sad that LQ made Hafeez captain. He is done . . I understand why they purchased him, and could well turn out to be a smart buy with his bowling (and if he bats lower down the order) . . but why captain?!

You had Fakhar Zaman who, if he carries on performing, should be Sarfaraz's successor. Gotta groom him and give him experience.

The rest were more or less expected. I really hope Islamabad United make a bold choice rather than going to like a Ronchi or someone famous and old.
 
It's sad that LQ made Hafeez captain. He is done . . I understand why they purchased him, and could well turn out to be a smart buy with his bowling (and if he bats lower down the order) . . but why captain?!

You had Fakhar Zaman who, if he carries on performing, should be Sarfaraz's successor. Gotta groom him and give him experience.

The rest were more or less expected. I really hope Islamabad United make a bold choice rather than going to like a Ronchi or someone famous and old.
But i will not complain beacause it should be PCB grooming captains but in doemstics we only see Saud Shakil captaining.
 
Imam ul Haq should be captain of the Test team. Yes everybody will laugh over it but he's the only guy in the Test team with a brain and someone who excels under pressure.
 
Islamabad are probably going to give it to Rumman like last year.
 
There is one thing that Pakistan cricket fans need to understand, and the earlier they do, the better: PSL is NOT the beacon of your hopes. PSL is tournament consisting of private clubs owned by private individuals. They do what they want. It is their choice who they want to appoint captain or include in the team. They could appoint Zulfiqar Babar or Saeed Ajmal as captain and nobody would still be at any right to criticize them simply because unlike PCB, they run their franchise with their OWN wealth not taxpayer money.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, PSL does not owe you anything. The PSL, or any PSL teams are not responsible to give you any talent. If you get some good cricketers out of PSL, then that's your luck, be happy. Take what you get but if they choose to play retired players, tried and tested failures or even players from Uganda, nobody is at right to comment - which is why I think we should stop pinning all our hopes onto PSL because PSL is not responsible for them. Our domestic competitions like the Quad-E-Azam trophy or the Pakistan cup are responsible for those. While the PSL is still under PCB as it organizes everything, the teams are not.

Take IPL for example. IPL has produced gems for cricketing nations around the world. Morris struggled to find a spot in the South Africa A team but a good IPL has turned him into a regular for the national team. Does this mean that South African fans start pinning their hopes onto the IPL and criticize private franchise owners for not doing something that would be better for the cause of South African cricket? No. They take what they get. What if BPL selects Sadaf Hussain next year and he has a great tournament, will we start expecting them to produce players for us every year? Just because PSL has 'Pakistan' in its name doesn't mean it owes us anything.

Frankly, team owners will get players who sell, instead of players who have ability but aren't famous. Wake up, we're in 2017. Cricket is more than just a sport. It's a business. Teams will still try to rope in Shahid Afridi even when he's 44 for how big a name he is, not just in Pakistan but around the world. That's the reality. If PSL wants to groom captains, do it in the domestic competitions. If the PCB wants to develop players, make better training facilities. Stop pinning your hopes on PSL.

this is one of the most realistic posts I read on PP.
 
Players who have a chance of capataining Pakistan in the future are the players who should be made captain. Oldies like Misbah and Hafeez should only play as players (they shouldn't even be in the draft). If a franchise wants to have an overseas player as captain, it should be an elite player like Smith or ABD.
 
Shadab has been appointed as vice-captain of Islamabad United...
 
I hope that when Saud Shakil debuts for Quetta Gladiators in about 5 years time he plays as captain.
 
Ian Bell as IU skipper is my guess.
 
Shadab has been appointed as vice-captain of Islamabad United...

I'm worried about Shadab, the bowler. He has gone downhill rapidly. It will be a pleasant surprise if he doesn't get dropped from IU playing XI midway through the PSL.
 
As far I can recall, these are 6 Captains of PSL

LQ- MoHa
KK - Imad
QG - Sarfraz
MS - Malik
IU - Don't know
PZ - Sammy

One unknown, one foreigner and other 4 locals, each of whom should be dumped immediately after 2019 WC, as no way any of these 4 has any chance of holding on to spot in squad for 2023 WC on playing merit or fitness acceptance.

So, obviously PCB & PSL is doing a great job ...............
 
I'm worried about Shadab, the bowler. He has gone downhill rapidly. It will be a pleasant surprise if he doesn't get dropped from IU playing XI midway through the PSL.

He will come back stronger, imo.

He has the hunger to succeed and is the most serious within his 2 bestfriends.

Will wake up on time.
 
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