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Tour match between Kent [209/4] and Pakistan [168] ends in a draw

Btw [MENTION=132916]Junaids[/MENTION]

You said Fakhar won’t succeed in tests because he can’t play bouncers.

But what is the threat from a Broad/Anderson bouncer? They aren’t quick enough to bowl a menacing bouncer.
 
Rahul1 said:
I can't wait for the Ireland vs pakistan match to start. Maybe Pakistan will cause an upset and defeat Ireland but it is looking very unlikely.
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As compared to India losing their series in South Africa inside 8 days in January, by scoring

207 all out
135 all out

307 all out
151 all out

187 all out
247 all out
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Highlights of Imam Ul-Haq's debut first class 50 for <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealPCB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealPCB</a><a href="https://t.co/UOtWHhyy2u">https://t.co/UOtWHhyy2u</a></p>— Kent Cricket &#55356;&#57295; (@kentcricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/kentcricket/status/990249590627676160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Junaids said:
As compared to India losing their series in South Africa inside 8 days in January, by scoring

207 all out
135 all out

307 all out
151 all out

187 all out
247 all out
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And you mentioned India because....?
 
In these conditions Hammad Azam would have been our ideal batting all rounder at 6.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bell-Drummond lbw b Hasan Ali 1. Kent 1-1 in reply to <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealPCB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealPCB</a>'s 168.<br>Denly joins Dickson 0* in gloomy conditions.<br><br>Live scorecard & video highlights:<a href="https://t.co/kTYjcBXdmb">https://t.co/kTYjcBXdmb</a> <a href="https://t.co/6zjKWmuxfi">pic.twitter.com/6zjKWmuxfi</a></p>— Kent Cricket &#55356;&#57295; (@kentcricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/kentcricket/status/990252793578573824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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DeadBall said:
<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bell-Drummond lbw b Hasan Ali 1. Kent 1-1 in reply to <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealPCB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealPCB</a>'s 168.<br>Denly joins Dickson 0* in gloomy conditions.<br><br>Live scorecard & video highlights:<a href="https://t.co/kTYjcBXdmb">https://t.co/kTYjcBXdmb</a> <a href="https://t.co/6zjKWmuxfi">pic.twitter.com/6zjKWmuxfi</a></p>— Kent Cricket �� (@kentcricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/kentcricket/status/990252793578573824?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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My eyes are crap.

Did that ball swing in or just keep a little low?
 
don't like the playing 11 in this match at all..

they need an extra bowler, and I don't get the point of playing Sami Aslam in a format where he averages 35 - he isn't a test batsmen, he's an ODI candidate (domestic average 49!!)

and Rahat over Abbas is puzzling.. although since Abbas has been playing county in England, they may have just wanted to give match practice to Rahat
 
Junaids said:
As compared to India losing their series in South Africa inside 8 days in January, by scoring

207 all out
135 all out

307 all out
151 all out

187 all out
247 all out
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Its not that SA batted for whole 2.5 days and India bundled out twice in 4 sessions. Both teams were getting out quickly and SA won both the tosses. So yeah , pretty bad reference. Nothing against Pak though. These are seriously tough conditions for Asians.
 
ManFan said:
My eyes are crap.

Did that ball swing in or just keep a little low?
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Not sure it did much of either to be honest, still hit him just at the top of pad. Just somehow got himself into a pretty messy position.
 
Junaids said:
In the Tests?

Possibly. I think that quick bowlers will take all 20 wickets in the Tests, and the best chance is to bowl on the first morning.

But in the two warm-ups and the Ireland Test, I think batting first gives the batsmen the biggest challenge and is therefore good.
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Yes in tests. I think batting fourth is better than batting first in these conditions. Also, like you said Amir and co will be most effective on first morning. I wonder if they have the same confidence in batting 4th as they had when Misbah and Younis were around.
 
DeadBall said:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Highlights of Imam Ul-Haq's debut first class 50 for <a href="https://twitter.com/TheRealPCB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TheRealPCB</a><a href="https://t.co/UOtWHhyy2u">https://t.co/UOtWHhyy2u</a></p>— Kent Cricket &#55356;&#57295; (@kentcricket) <a href="https://twitter.com/kentcricket/status/990249590627676160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 28, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Never saw him bat before. Footwork looks solid to me. Those cover drives especially
 
This is going to be a headache for the management.

Essentially, all your four bowlers perform at their best when given the new ball.

You also can’t pair two righties or two lefties with one another...
 
ManFan said:
He should, he scored 61 out of a total of 168 in his first outing outside Asia and on a cold English morning.

He has the shots that Sami lacks.
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Sami deserves a few more chances , but they way Imam played , I think both will will in the XI . Fakhar has to sit out. If we look into performance , I would have dropped Babaar , he has been given enough opportunities in Test matches , you need to give next in line some chances also.
 
Justcrazy said:
Sami deserves a few more chances , but they way Imam played , I think both will will in the XI . Fakhar has to sit out. If we look into performance , I would have dropped Babaar , he has been given enough opportunities in Test matches , you need to give next in line some chances also.
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Drop Babar?

He needs to play 25 tests minimum before being dropped.

Look at the bigger picture.
 
Junaids said:
As compared to India losing their series in South Africa inside 8 days in January, by scoring

207 all out
135 all out

307 all out
151 all out

187 all out
247 all out
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Yep. And that was against a second string attack of a division 2 county team wasn't it? :srini
 
I hope this is just a one off performance adjusting to the conditions a bit of jet lag etc

Because if this is going to be standard of our batting in this early spring / summer forget England we might even lose to Ireland
 
Bowlers probably bowling the wrong lengths again. Hassan is by nature an attacking bowler so no wonder he got the breakthrough
 
Fahim Ashraf should play instead of Rahat Ali or Amir as a specialist bowler.
 
Actually I think this performance might increase Pakistan’s chances of being very good in this series.

They always need a wake up call before they are at their best. Just like the 1st match of CT 17.
 
Rahat Garbage King going at 4 runs an over against 2nd division County team.

We will conquer England with this weapon of mass destruction.
 
Azhar and Sami opening. Nice. Hope both of them are able to find some form.
 
Markhor said:
Worth reminding folks that Kent were bowled out for 64 a few weeks ago.
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Kent rise up when met with a challenge, the quality of the opposition bring out the best in them. They are bringing their A game today and also had a special malish during the interval :mv Also, 64 is not a terribly low score at this point in the season given the wicket/weather when 300 has been crossed by teams just 8 times in 29 innings.
 
Titan24 said:
Actually I think this performance might increase Pakistan’s chances of being very good in this series.

They always need a wake up call before they are at their best. Just like the 1st match of CT 17.
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Yeahh, we are usually slow starters.
Very poor reactions in this thread.
This is their first outing, give them some time. Aisay he team bnti hai.
I dont know which Don Bradmans are waiting in domestics that they are hating on these boys.
 
sam_ahm said:
There you go, 168 all out against Div 2 team. Nothing has changed since I last saw them in NZL ODIs. Infact they seem to have regressed.
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Wait till the actual matches begin
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Yeahh, we are usually slow starters.
Very poor reactions in this thread.
This is their first outing, give them some time. Aisay he team bnti hai.
I dont know which Don Bradmans are waiting in domestics that they are hating on these boys.
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Well said.
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Yeahh, we are usually slow starters.
Very poor reactions in this thread.
This is their first outing, give them some time. Aisay he team bnti hai.
I dont know which Don Bradmans are waiting in domestics that they are hating on these boys.
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Exactly other than Asad, Azhar and Sarfaraz they all are pretty new to the game
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Yeahh, we are usually slow starters.
Very poor reactions in this thread.
This is their first outing, give them some time. Aisay he team bnti hai.
I dont know which Don Bradmans are waiting in domestics that they are hating on these boys.
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It's dead wieght like Shafiq who has played for 7-8 years now and still bats as if it's his first series. Why not drop him and play Usman or Saad?
 
I don't care if the youngsters fail or struggle

The onus is on azhar and Shafiq who now have to step up and consistently get the big centuries like younis was capable of doing

There's no excuses left for azhar or Shafiq they have been in the team almost 8 yrs + and now should be at their peak
 
world cup captain said:
It's dead wieght like Shafiq who has played for 7-8 years now and still bats as if it's his first series. Why not drop him and play Usman or Saad?
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Yeah Shafiq should be dropped, I was talking mainly about youngsters plus this is just first innings of the tour. Need to give them time. Team bananay k liye patience chaheye hoti.
 
carbon11 said:
I don't care if the youngsters fail or struggle

The onus is on azhar and Shafiq who now have to step up and consistently get the big centuries like younis was capable of doing

There's no excuses left for azhar or Shafiq they have been in the team almost 8 yrs + and now should be at their peak
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Azhar has performed consistently for 2 years now...but Shafiq has been too inconsistent.
 
I wonder if Babar would be able to maintain his average on this tour... :)
 
SarfiBabarHaris said:
Yeah Shafiq should be dropped, I was talking mainly about youngsters plus this is just first innings of the tour. Need to give them time. Team bananay k liye patience chaheye hoti.
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Don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone from this squad should be dropped except Shafiq or Rahat. I don't mind sacrificing a series or two if it means we can build a solid team.
 
Batting is just too one dimensional- i would like to see FZ in at least 6, if not at 5. He can at least attempt to be positive, the other guys are very average unless the conditions improve.
 
Good session for Pakistan.

Amir got to bowl 30 balls.

Hasan got to bowl 36 balls.

Rahat got to bowl 24 balls.
 
Pathetic display as expected really.

It makes you wonder what these guys have been doing in terms of preparations?

I really worry about the future of our Test team and it would be a huge surprise if it's not 2-0 to England.
 
How much should I bet that Pak will loose by 500 runs, and the use this SAME EXACT team against England in both of the Tests. Maybe just maybe they might change ONE bowler. LOL!!!!!!

Sami Aslam and Asad Shafiq should be axed and removed FOREVER!!!

The Top 4 SHOULD BE!!!

1. AZHAR ALI
2. FAKHAR ZAMAN
3. BABAR AZAM
4. SAAD ALI
 
Asch Ali said:
How much should I bet that Pak will loose by 500 runs, and the use this SAME EXACT team against England in both of the Tests. Maybe just maybe they might change ONE bowler. LOL!!!!!!

Sami Aslam and Asad Shafiq should be axed and removed FOREVER!!!

The Top 4 SHOULD BE!!!

1. AZHAR ALI
2. FAKHAR ZAMAN
3. BABAR AZAM
4. SAAD ALI
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Yeah, this performance shows that Zaman should at least be given a chance in the opening slot to get some momentum going. The turgid start from the batting shows that even 2nd division county attacks are all over us if we don't change something.
 
Peshwa said:
Hope u will be there when he will come back..
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I am here since 2005 on PP.
About the match, I am reacting to the reactions, its a practise match.
Yes, ENG are faveroutes and expected to win 2 nil but lets see how things go instead mocking the team after 1 day of cricket.
 
Rubbish batting performance. The scary thing is that this could be our best team and the one for the Tests. It is not looking good. I am gonna cut my wrists now!:warner
 
pakistani pride said:
I am here since 2005 on PP.
About the match, I am reacting to the reactions, its a practise match.
Yes, ENG are faveroutes and expected to win 2 nil but lets see how things go instead mocking the team after 1 day of cricket.
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Just a banter dude...don't take it seriously
 
All our batsmen were caught on crease, on wet conditions it seams a lot, no wonder. Playing on Backfoot did not help either. Harris Sohail worries me as well, his Backfoot game(which works in AUS), may backfires in early summer conditions here...

Bowling full is key and Amir is not doing that, we are going nowhere without him bowling the right length :facepalm:
 
Saj said:
Pathetic display as expected really.

It makes you wonder what these guys have been doing in terms of preparations?

I really worry about the future of our Test team and it would be a huge surprise if it's not 2-0 to England.
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That's a bit excessive, I would respectfully suggest.

If you look back two years, Pakistan did well in England on the dryer, bouncier tracks in London at Lords and The Oval, in the warmer, dryer, second half of summer.

This is a Spring Test series. If they had arrived any earlier it would have been winter, and impossible to play cricket.

Even the English counties have been making low scores on soft, damp wickets so far this season - and their players experience these conditions every year.

If you look back to the 2016 tour of England, this is how many runs each batsman made in the 4 Tests:

Younis Khan 340 runs BUT only 132 runs in his first 3 Tests
Azhar Ali 295 runs BUT only 39 runs in the first 2 Tests.
Misbah-ul-Haq 282 runs BUT only 168 runs in the last 3 Tests
Asad Shafiq 274 runs
Sami Aslam 167 runs in 4 innings - topped the averages even above Younis Khan

They were all horribly inconsistent apart from Sami Aslam.

What Pakistan needs to do now is give their batsmen six innings each before the First Test in England. It's too late for chopping and changing - they need to stick with the batsmen and let them adapt to the conditions.
 
Junaids said:
That's a bit excessive, I would respectfully suggest.

If you look back two years, Pakistan did well in England on the dryer, bouncier tracks in London at Lords and The Oval, in the warmer, dryer, second half of summer.

This is a Spring Test series. If they had arrived any earlier it would have been winter, and impossible to play cricket.

Even the English counties have been making low scores on soft, damp wickets so far this season - and their players experience these conditions every year.

If you look back to the 2016 tour of England, this is how many runs each batsman made in the 4 Tests:

Younis Khan 340 runs BUT only 132 runs in his first 3 Tests
Azhar Ali 295 runs BUT only 39 runs in the first 2 Tests.
Misbah-ul-Haq 282 runs BUT only 168 runs in the last 3 Tests
Asad Shafiq 274 runs
Sami Aslam 167 runs in 4 innings - topped the averages even above Younis Khan

They were all horribly inconsistent apart from Sami Aslam.

What Pakistan needs to do now is give their batsmen six innings each before the First Test in England. It's too late for chopping and changing - they need to stick with the batsmen and let them adapt to the conditions.
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Khan helped win a Test all on his own so the rest don't matter, Misbah leadership was fantastic overall and he helped us win the Lords Test with his batting, I believe he was our man of the series. But I agree we need to stick with these blokes, don't think changes will make a huge difference in these conditions, in division two; 300 has been passed just 8 times in 29 innings, the weather is just terrible
 
Junaids said:
That's a bit excessive, I would respectfully suggest.

If you look back two years, Pakistan did well in England on the dryer, bouncier tracks in London at Lords and The Oval, in the warmer, dryer, second half of summer.

This is a Spring Test series. If they had arrived any earlier it would have been winter, and impossible to play cricket.

Even the English counties have been making low scores on soft, damp wickets so far this season - and their players experience these conditions every year.

If you look back to the 2016 tour of England, this is how many runs each batsman made in the 4 Tests:

Younis Khan 340 runs BUT only 132 runs in his first 3 Tests
Azhar Ali 295 runs BUT only 39 runs in the first 2 Tests.
Misbah-ul-Haq 282 runs BUT only 168 runs in the last 3 Tests
Asad Shafiq 274 runs
Sami Aslam 167 runs in 4 innings - topped the averages even above Younis Khan

They were all horribly inconsistent apart from Sami Aslam.

What Pakistan needs to do now is give their batsmen six innings each before the First Test in England. It's too late for chopping and changing - they need to stick with the batsmen and let them adapt to the conditions.
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This and mornings are a diffrent ball game
Mornings favours bowlers drastically
The swing compared to afternoon is a massive difference
 
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