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Turkey condemns 'vile' Sweden Quran-burning protest

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The highly offensive desecration of the Holy Quran by a Danish politician is the third such incident in a row that should be strongly condemned by the civilised world. The need for global unity to fight Islamophobia couldn't be more urgent than it is now. We are deeply hurt.</p>— Shehbaz Sharif (@CMShehbaz) <a href="https://twitter.com/CMShehbaz/status/1619578945783078912?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 29, 2023</a></blockquote>
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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has suggested that Ankara may agree to Finland joining Nato, but not Sweden.

He criticised Sweden's refusal to extradite dozens of people allegedly tied to Kurdish militant groups and other critics of his government.

"If you absolutely want to join Nato, you will return these terrorists to us," said Mr Erdogan.

His comments come days after Turkey suspended talks to accept the two Nordic nations as members.

The move was prompted by a series of controversial protests in Stockholm, including one during which a copy of the Koran was burned.

Swedish officials have condemned the protests, but defended the country's free speech laws.

In response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine, Sweden and Finland applied to join Nato last year, ending decades of military non-alignment.

Their application must be unanimously approved by all current Nato members, but Turkey and Hungary have failed to ratify their bids.

BBC
 
Hats off to Erdogan for playing hard ball. These Western nations that have one rule for Judaism and another rule for the rest, need to be taught a lesson.

With Denmark now jumping on the bandwagon of burning the Qur'an under the guise of FoE, its about time these Nordic nations a taught a harsh lesson.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Hats off to Erdogan for playing hard ball. These Western nations that have one rule for Judaism and another rule for the rest, need to be taught a lesson.

With Denmark now jumping on the bandwagon of burning the Qur'an under the guise of FoE, its about time these Nordic nations a taught a harsh lesson.
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There is no rule for Judaism. The current story on burning the Torah turned out to be fake.
 
Technics 1210 said:
Hats off to Erdogan for playing hard ball. These Western nations that have one rule for Judaism and another rule for the rest, need to be taught a lesson.

With Denmark now jumping on the bandwagon of burning the Qur'an under the guise of FoE, its about time these Nordic nations a taught a harsh lesson.
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Erdogan is the best Muslim leader in the world. Big fan of him.
 
sweep_shot said:
Erdogan is the best Muslim leader in the world. Big fan of him.
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You must have real low standards. He is a thug, know for corruption. Wannabe ottoman calipha. The Turkish economy is in the drain due to him
 
SalimBhai said:
You must have real low standards. He is a thug, know for corruption. Wannabe ottoman calipha. The Turkish economy is in the drain due to him
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Which other Muslim leader is better than him? I was referring to his backbone. He is a very stubborn (in a good way) and determined leader. He doesn't shy away from speaking about issues related to Islam.

I believe you are an atheist. So, I can see why you have a problem with him.
 
It had nothing to do with being an atheist. He is corrupt, hija family is corrupt, he is thin skinned, has put journalist and his opposition in jail, changed the constitution so he could stay in power. The economy is in the drains. Also strong Muslim leader means what. He strikes ego of people like you by saying crazy things. And u just eat it up.
 
Swedish authorities stop planned Torah burning

A week after a politician burned the Quran in Stockholm, Swedish authorities stopped a planned burning of the Torah in front of the Israeli embassy, according to Swedish officials.



Israeli ambassador Ziv Nevo Kulman said on Friday that his country and the local Jewish community had prevented the Torah from being burned in front of the Tel Aviv embassy building in coordination with Swedish officials.

‘Spark a debate'
According to Jo24, a young Swedish Muslim of Arab origin had applied to the Swedish police to burn a copy of the Torah in front of the Israeli embassy.

The man said that as a Muslim, he knew that the burning of scriptures was not permissible, but he wanted to debate and ensure that all scriptures were treated equally and that freedom of expression was guaranteed to all in Sweden.

A Swedish newspaper reported that the 34-year-old man who applied to burn the Torah in front of the Israeli Embassy in Stockholm also applied to burn a bible in central Stockholm's Sergel's Square.

The man told the newspaper, "burning scriptures is disgusting, but I'm angry, and I'm doing it to spark a debate about it."

‘I represent myself’
The paper added that the man stated that he was tired of tax money going to protect Rasmus Baludan, who has repeatedly had demonstrations to burn copies of the Quran.

The young man confirmed that representatives of the Muslim Association at the Stockholm mosque had advised him not to do so, indicating that he would not represent Muslims if he burned down a copy of the Torah.

The man added: "Representatives of an Islamic association contacted me and asked me not to do so. They say it is contrary to Islam and that I do not represent Muslims when I burn a copy of the Torah outside the Israeli embassy.”

“That is okay. I represent myself,” he said, stressing that his work does not target the Jewish minority in Sweden.

Last week, the Swedish government agreed to let Rasmus Baludan, leader of the far-right Danish "hard line" party, burn a copy of the Quran, citing it as "freedom of expression".
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https://www.jordannews.jo/Section-109/News/Swedish-authorities-stop-planned-Torah-burning-26682

Can ANY of the supporters of freedom of speech explain the double standards here?
 
Technics 1210 said:
Amazing but true.

Swedish authorities approve Qur'an burning.

Swedish authorites reject Torah burning.

I like to see these Liberals defend this one.

It is clear who controls the West, and its policies, Zionists.

Sad and pathetic hypocrisy defended by delusional liberals.
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sweep_shot said:
Blatant double standard.

So, Torah burning is not allowed but Quran burning is.
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They will just ignore and run off as always lol.

What is even stranger is the Quran is in the original language, while the Torah has changed from Aramaic , to Hebrew to English(most copies).

What is even more interesting and the idiotic Swedes dont realise, the word for God in Aramaic is

"The Aramaic word for God is alôh-ô ( Syriac dialect) or elâhâ (Biblical dialect), which comes from the same Proto- Semitic word (*ʾilâh-)"

Basically the same word. Both same words but one is ok to burn and the other is not. :))

Im glad some Muslim used his brain to show the hypocrisy.

Meanwhile one of the Quran burners has killed himself.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Meanwhile one of the Quran burners has killed himself.
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Yeah. One of the Quran burners committed suicide. May he burn in Hell.


This much hatred is not good for mental and even physical health. This is a great example to all those haters out there.
 
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KingKhanWC said:
They will just ignore and run off as always lol.

What is even stranger is the Quran is in the original language, while the Torah has changed from Aramaic , to Hebrew to English(most copies).

What is even more interesting and the idiotic Swedes dont realise, the word for God in Aramaic is

"The Aramaic word for God is alôh-ô ( Syriac dialect) or elâhâ (Biblical dialect), which comes from the same Proto- Semitic word (*ʾilâh-)"

Basically the same word. Both same words but one is ok to burn and the other is not. :))

Im glad some Muslim used his brain to show the hypocrisy.

Meanwhile one of the Quran burners has killed himself.
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Doesn't surprise me, given Liberals cannot think for themselves and must be spoonfed their views by ZMSM.

Sad to read of the Qur'an burners killed himself, what a coward, took the easy route out, instead of redemption. Good riddance.
 
JaDed said:
There seems to be no clear report stating Swedish authorities didn’t allow him.

As per some reports(again biased Jewish) he said he has postponed it for now.

Any video and his direct quotes would help see if he postponed or Swedish disallowed and clear this up.
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You are correct.

But numerous reports state

"Israel’s ambassador to Sweden, Ziv Nevo Kulman, tweeted last week that his embassy worked with Swedish authorities to successfully thwart the Torah burning. But a rabbi involved in interfaith work in Sweden told the Jerusalem Post that he credited Muslim leaders with dissuading the protest organizer."

https://www.timesofisrael.com/musli...torah-burning-near-israeli-embassy-in-sweden/

Why would the Swedish authorities even consider such a discussion after their stance on 'freedom of expresion'.?
 
JaDed said:
There seems to be no clear report stating Swedish authorities didn’t allow him.

As per some reports(again biased Jewish) he said he has postponed it for now.

Any video and his direct quotes would help see if he postponed or Swedish disallowed and clear this up.
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The news has be debunked days ago. He himself decided not to burn it Swedish authorities had no say.
 
KingKhanWC said:
You are correct.

But numerous reports state

"Israel’s ambassador to Sweden, Ziv Nevo Kulman, tweeted last week that his embassy worked with Swedish authorities to successfully thwart the Torah burning. But a rabbi involved in interfaith work in Sweden told the Jerusalem Post that he credited Muslim leaders with dissuading the protest organizer."

https://www.timesofisrael.com/musli...torah-burning-near-israeli-embassy-in-sweden/

Why would the Swedish authorities even consider such a discussion after their stance on 'freedom of expresion'.?
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There is no FoS in Sweden thata why Swedish authorities had the discussion!

Zionists control the narrative and the speech in the West.
 
KingKhanWC said:
They will just ignore and run off as always lol.
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Oh, the Swedish authorities *did* grant permission for the Torah burning stunt. So they were even-handed after all.

Not that I would have allowed either - both are an expression of hate - but Sweden is super free.

Really, you must try to rid yourself of this persecution complex. It must make you unhappy, and I want you to be happy.

Avoiding fake news will help. You can easily fact-check.
 
Robert said:
He’s a better man than the far-right nutter at least.
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Agreed. But these posters need to stop with the fake news, victim mentality. Must be destructive for their mental health. And now they will ignore this thread .
 
Robert said:
Oh, the Swedish authorities *did* grant permission for the Torah burning stunt. So they were even-handed after all.

Not that I would have allowed either - both are an expression of hate - but Sweden is super free.

Really, you must try to rid yourself of this persecution complex. It must make you unhappy, and I want you to be happy.

Avoiding fake news will help. You can easily fact-check.
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Can you show me a statement from a Swedish official saying ITS OK to burn the TORAH?

Robert, lets leave out the lectures please. You cannot be happier than I am my friend. :) My advise to you would be open your eyes and stop falling for this patriotic rubbish ,this is dispresepting ones own inteligence.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Can you show me a statement from a Swedish official saying ITS OK to burn the TORAH?

Robert, lets leave out the lectures please. You cannot be happier than I am my friend. :) My advise to you would be open your eyes and stop falling for this patriotic rubbish ,this is dispresepting ones own inteligence.
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Dude did u even read the article ?
 
KingKhanWC said:
Can you show me a statement from a Swedish official saying ITS OK to burn the TORAH?

Robert, lets leave out the lectures please. You cannot be happier than I am my friend. :) My advise to you would be open your eyes and stop falling for this patriotic rubbish ,this is dispresepting ones own inteligence.
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Multiple sources claiming opposite of what you are saying. As Robert said. This is not good for your mental health.
 
SalimBhai said:
Actually the person who was going to burn the Torah himself declined to burn it. What you are stating is false news. Has been debunked like 3-4 days ago already.
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He declined after the Swedish authorities and Israelis spoke and begged Muslims to ask him to stop. Its simple.
 
KingKhanWC said:
Can you show me a statement from a Swedish official saying ITS OK to burn the TORAH?

Robert, let’s leave out the lectures please. You cannot be happier than I am my friend. :) My advice to you would be open your eyes and stop falling for this patriotic rubbish ,this is dispresepting ones own inteligence.
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You come across as angry, a lot of the time.

“Patriotic”? I’m not Swedish.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/top...tures-but-defends-granting-permission/2795183

There you go. Swedish freedom of expression law allows Torah-burning.

The Swedish authorities discourage such acts, but have no power under current law to prevent it.
 
KingKhanWC said:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...icial-for-insulting-comments-about-anne-frank

This alone proves the Swedes have double standards, yet some jokers think they dont esp when it comes to Jews or anything related.
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You’re confusing Swedish freedom of expression law which apply to all Swedes with the internal disciplinary actions of one Swedish political party.

If you want to find a double standard you must first state what the criterion being violated in one case and not the other is, but you’ve chosen two unrelated criteria so no double standard can apply.
 
Robert said:
You’re confusing Swedish freedom of expression law which apply to all Swedes with the internal disciplinary actions of one Swedish political party.

If you want to find a double standard you must first state what the criterion being violated in one case and not the other is, but you’ve chosen two unrelated criteria so no double standard can apply.
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You miss the point. Swedish officials stand up against anything anti-Jewish. Swedish government official and Israeli offiicial pressured the Muslim community to stop the Torah burning. Why are they mute or saying its ok to burn the Quran.

When you understand these double standards , you may understand why nobody takes Sweden seriously in such matters.
 
Robert said:
You come across as angry, a lot of the time.

“Patriotic”? I’m not Swedish.

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/top...tures-but-defends-granting-permission/2795183

There you go. Swedish freedom of expression law allows Torah-burning.

The Swedish authorities discourage such acts, but have no power under current law to prevent it.
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With respect, you come across as lazy thinking most of the times, its tough to debate with you.

You are not Swedish but are so pro west you may as well be.

We will see when a Torah is set on fire outside the Israeli embassy how the Swedes react, so far they have done all they can to stop it but didnt do the same with the Quran.

If you still dont realise there is huge double standards in Europe and huge Islamaphobia, there is nothing I can say to help you.
 
The proof has been provided. There is no law against biting the Torah. You have been provided links. But you can’t bring yourself to say it as it goes against your whole manifesto. Once again the guy was given permission to burn the Torah. So all you it complaining is useless and lame.
 
SalimBhai said:
The proof has been provided. There is no law against biting the Torah. You have been provided links. But you can’t bring yourself to say it as it goes against your whole manifesto. Once again the guy was given permission to burn the Torah. So all you it complaining is useless and lame.
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You're so motivated in your hate for ISlam, you cant see the trees throught the woods.

Nobody said there is no law, you must be dreaming lol.

Swedish authorities worked with Israelis to stop it. Why did they do this if there is no issue with freedom of expression?
 
KingKhanWC said:
You're so motivated in your hate for ISlam, you cant see the trees throught the woods.

Nobody said there is no law, you must be dreaming lol.

Swedish authorities worked with Israelis to stop it. Why did they do this if there is no issue with freedom of expression?
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Once again. There is no law against burning the Koran ,bible or Torah. There is NO law against it. I am sure authorities and religious groups also worked with the Quran burner but were unsuccessful. I. Persuading him. . Once again there is no law that protects Jews and not muslims. There are no double standards. This is all in your head. .
 
SalimBhai said:
Once again. There is no law against burning the Koran ,bible or Torah. There is NO law against it. I am sure authorities and religious groups also worked with the Quran burner but were unsuccessful. I. Persuading him. . Once again there is no law that protects Jews and not muslims. There are no double standards. This is all in your head. .
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Again again. :trump

I asked you a simple question.


Swedish authorities worked with Israelis to stop it. Why did they do this if there is no issue with freedom of expression?
 
KingKhanWC said:
Again again. :trump

I asked you a simple question.


Swedish authorities worked with Israelis to stop it. Why did they do this if there is no issue with freedom of expression?
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I am sure Swedish authorities also worked with the Quran burner to discourage. But we’re unlucky. Once again
THERE IS NO LAW AGAINST BURNING ANY RELIGIOUS BOOK IN SWEDEN. NONE

Just admit you were wrong ( as usual) and move on. Stop digging a hole.
 
SalimBhai said:
I am sure Swedish authorities also worked with the Quran burner to discourage. But we’re unlucky. Once again
THERE IS NO LAW AGAINST BURNING ANY RELIGIOUS BOOK IN SWEDEN. NONE

Just admit you were wrong ( as usual) and move on. Stop digging a hole.
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How are you sure? lol.

It might be normal for you but to admit to something I never suggested is a bit dim.

Where did I write there is a law against burning the Torah? Show me.
 
KingKhanWC said:
How are you sure? lol.

It might be normal for you but to admit to something I never suggested is a bit dim.

Where did I write there is a law against burning the Torah? Show me.
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I see you are shifting the goalpost now. Its hilarious. 😝
 
Swedish authorities authorized Torah burning. The guy just decided to not go ahead with it. So there goes your conspiracy theory in the bin
 
KingKhanWC said:
You miss the point. Swedish officials stand up against anything anti-Jewish. Swedish government official and Israeli offiicial pressured the Muslim community to stop the Torah burning. Why are they mute or saying its ok to burn the Quran.

When you understand these double standards , you may understand why nobody takes Sweden seriously in such matters.
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The Swedish government stated that they deplored the Quran desecration.

So there is no double standard.

You make these fictions up in your head to get upset about.
 
SalimBhai said:
Wrong again as usual. They allowed Torah burning also. The guy just backed out
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Evidence doesn’t matter to some guys - they delete anything that counters their need to elevate victimhood.
 
Anyone with half a brain cell knows why Sweden and Amreeka condemn the burning of the Qur'an - cos Sweden wants to join NATO and the Swedes are appeasing the Turks.

Any other time frame and you'd have the Liberal West and their sheep dancing to the FoS remix all year long.

If anyone must be exposed it is the racist and facist liberals.
 
KingKhanWC said:
With respect, you come across as lazy thinking most of the times, its tough to debate with you.

You are not Swedish but are so pro west you may as well be.

We will see when a Torah is set on fire outside the Israeli embassy how the Swedes react, so far they have done all they can to stop it but didnt do the same with the Quran.

If you still dont realise there is huge double standards in Europe and huge Islamaphobia, there is nothing I can say to help you.
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If you want laziness, consider your generalities about Western nations all somehow being the same. They are not. They have different histories, experiences and mythologies which shape their cultures.

And I already said that I think Swedish freedom of expression law is too lax.
 
Robert said:
The Swedish government stated that they deplored the Quran desecration.

So there is no double standard.

You make these fictions up in your head to get upset about.
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Robert said:
If you want laziness, consider your generalities about Western nations all somehow being the same. They are not. They have different histories, experiences and mythologies which shape their cultures.

And I already said that I think Swedish freedom of expression law is too lax.
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You are not understanding a simple point Robert. The Swedish authorities actively worked to stop the Torah burning but didnt care too much about the Quran burning.

The problem is Robert, sadly you have little credibility in arguments regarding the west and its link to world geo-politics. You supported the Afghan invasion, the war on terror, you claimed the occupation of Iraq was not an occupation, you supported dropping two nukes on human beings , the bloody coup in Ukraine , the list goes on and on. We dont need to debate all these but nobody can take anyone seriously who thinks all these were correct. My advice take off your pro-west hat and think because many enjoy reading your posts when they make sense.
 
There are no laws against burning the Torah or the Quran . You could do both. The other sides argument falle apart due to that It’s hard for them to digest because they have been beating that drum for years. Proven wrong. Shame
 
SalimBhai said:
I see you are shifting the goalpost now. Its hilarious. �
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Salim from Lahore

You've been in USA long enough to comprehend English?

You wrote

"ut we’re unlucky. Once again
THERE IS NO LAW AGAINST BURNING ANY RELIGIOUS BOOK IN SWEDEN. NONE

Just admit you were wrong"

Either you're a liar or prove otherwise where I stated there is a law ....
 
Robert said:
If you want laziness, consider your generalities about Western nations all somehow being the same. They are not. They have different histories, experiences and mythologies which shape their cultures.

And I already said that I think Swedish freedom of expression law is too lax.
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Yet they all somehow join together to make war on the east. When was the last time Five Eyes countries dropped bombs on their own?
 
KingKhanWC said:
Salim from Lahore

You've been in USA long enough to comprehend English?

You wrote

"ut we’re unlucky. Once again
THERE IS NO LAW AGAINST BURNING ANY RELIGIOUS BOOK IN SWEDEN. NONE

Just admit you were wrong"

Either you're a liar or prove otherwise where I stated there is a law ....
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Hahahhahaaa. I see you back peddling. Admit you are wrong and move on. Everyone makes mistakes. The key is to learn from it. It’s ok.
 
SalimBhai said:
Hahahhahaaa. I see you back peddling. Admit you are wrong and move on. Everyone makes mistakes. The key is to learn from it. It’s ok.
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lol.

You made a claim but cant back it up? Prove I stated there is a law against burning religoius books?

You come on here daily much like the Quran burners who daily abuse Islam but in the end just like them you are humiliated by God.
 
KingKhanWC said:
You are not understanding a simple point Robert. The Swedish authorities actively worked to stop the Torah burning but didnt care too much about the Quran burning.

The problem is Robert, sadly you have little credibility in arguments regarding the west and its link to world geo-politics. You supported the Afghan invasion, the war on terror, you claimed the occupation of Iraq was not an occupation, you supported dropping two nukes on human beings , the bloody coup in Ukraine , the list goes on and on. We dont need to debate all these but nobody can take anyone seriously who thinks all these were correct. My advice take off your pro-west hat and think because many enjoy reading your posts when they make sense.
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I’m not seeing that the Swedish authorities worked to stop the would-be Torah burning stunt. Indeed, Rabbi Moshe David HaCohen said the man was dissuaded by Muslim community leaders, not the government.

I supported the right of NATO states to defend themselves after 9/11.

I supported the UN-sanctioned ISAF mission in Afghanistan.

I changed my mind on Iraq and now see it as a monstrous error in USA/UK foreign policy.

I said that the two nuclear strikes were justified because they brought the cataclysm of WW2 to a final end. They saved millions of American, Japanese, Chinese and Korean lives.

You changed my mind on two occasions - on Iraq, and on the burqa ban in France. You did this by proper debate. Get better at debate and you might change my mind a third time.
 
Robert said:
I said that the two nuclear strikes were justified because they brought the cataclysm of WW2 to a final end. They saved millions of American, Japanese, Chinese and Korean lives.
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Wow!

How could you justify using nuke? There was absolutely no justification.

Should Russia nuke Ukraine then? It can stop the war too.
 
sweep_shot said:
Wow!

How could you justify using nuke? There was absolutely no justification.

Should Russia nuke Ukraine then? It can stop the war too.
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To be fair, no one had any idea of the damage the 1st nuke would do, but it was the second nuke that was fully intended.

If liberals are going to justify the nuclear deaths based on the premise that a small number of lives saved a larger number of lives in the Pacific (sacrifice basically), then we should also apply this delusional liberal logic to Europe where the 6 Million who were reported to have died in a genocide, also saved a larger number of lives.

In essence, a small price to pay for peace is what Liberals are suggesting here, but no one bats an eyelid on the innocent Japanese that died from the nukes, or the 25 Million Russians who sacrificed their lives to end the deadliest war in humanity.
 
Robert said:
Because the two nuclear strikes saved more lives than they took.
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It shows how incompetent American troops really were. They had to resort to nukes. Even today, they are nothing without the airstrikes protecting their backsides.
 
Robert said:
I’m not seeing that the Swedish authorities worked to stop the would-be Torah burning stunt. Indeed, Rabbi Moshe David HaCohen said the man was dissuaded by Muslim community leaders, not the government.

I supported the right of NATO states to defend themselves after 9/11.

I supported the UN-sanctioned ISAF mission in Afghanistan.

I changed my mind on Iraq and now see it as a monstrous error in USA/UK foreign policy.

I said that the two nuclear strikes were justified because they brought the cataclysm of WW2 to a final end. They saved millions of American, Japanese, Chinese and Korean lives.

You changed my mind on two occasions - on Iraq, and on the burqa ban in France. You did this by proper debate. Get better at debate and you might change my mind a third time.
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Let's not beat around the bushes.

You supported American invasion of Afghanistan, American invasion of Iraq, and nuking of Japan in WW2. You can use pretty words to make these sound good but these were evil actions.

No matter how much you try to sugarcoat it, you supported murders of millions of innocent people. Just for the record.
 
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Robert said:
I’m not seeing that the Swedish authorities worked to stop the would-be Torah burning stunt. Indeed, Rabbi Moshe David HaCohen said the man was dissuaded by Muslim community leaders, not the government.

I supported the right of NATO states to defend themselves after 9/11.

I supported the UN-sanctioned ISAF mission in Afghanistan.

I changed my mind on Iraq and now see it as a monstrous error in USA/UK foreign policy.

I said that the two nuclear strikes were justified because they brought the cataclysm of WW2 to a final end. They saved millions of American, Japanese, Chinese and Korean lives.

You changed my mind on two occasions - on Iraq, and on the burqa ban in France. You did this by proper debate. Get better at debate and you might change my mind a third time.
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The reports were Swedes worked with Israel to request the Muslims to help stop the burning. We dont need to continue this argument.

Im not here to change minds but to refute minds. But Im glad you were open minded enough which we all should be for ourselves if not for others.
 
sweep_shot said:
It shows how incompetent American troops really were. They had to resort to nukes. Even today, they are nothing without the airstrikes protecting their backsides.
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The USMC were very good. But at Okinawa they took huge casualties from fanatical defenders. Estimate was a million losses on the Japanese mainland. Every woman and child would have been a suicide bomber.

The USAAF didn’t have to deploy the nukes. They could have done as much damage with conventional bombs, as in the Tokyo raid. But the nukes gave Hirohito the option to surrender - not to a soldier, that was unthinkable - but to this new technological terror.

The mass killing of civilians by the Japanese in China and Korea stopped too.

So…. The nuclear strikes saved more lives than they took.
 
Robert said:
Ask yourself - what does this far right Islamophobe want?

If Swedish Muslims want a blasphemy law on the statutes, they should organise within Sweden.
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They want all coloured people to leave the UK and Europe. Islam is just an excuse that they use. Oh come on these laws you are talking about don't mean anything at all.
 
PakLFC said:
They want all coloured people to leave the UK and Europe. Islam is just an excuse that they use. Oh come on these laws you are talking about don't mean anything at all.
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Why in your mind are they not attacking indians
( Hindus)
 
PakLFC said:
They want all coloured people to leave the UK and Europe. Islam is just an excuse that they use. Oh come on these laws you are talking about don't mean anything at all.
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They do in UK. If some eejit burns a holy text here, he’ll be arrested and charged.
 
PakLFC;11749812[B said:
]Because India and Hindu's are pro west.[/B] Also the west needs majority Hindu Indian to counter China.
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You sure? They have always leaned to Moscow in their defence procurement. While Pakistan have their Dassaults and General Dynamics / Lockheeds, as well as Airbuses and Boeings.
 
Robert said:
They do in UK. If some eejit burns a holy text here, he’ll be arrested and charged.
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If so these laws should be extended to all over Europe. Not only the Qur'an but all religious text should be protected.
 
Robert said:
You sure? They have always leaned to Moscow in their defence procurement. While Pakistan have their Dassaults and General Dynamics / Lockheeds, as well as Airbuses and Boeings.
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Rishi Sunak and all. Yeah since the Russia-Ukraine was started it has left India in a predicament., As mentioned the west particularly America needs India to keep China in check so they can't get too heavy with them. Ya know Pak with it's leadership have always been pro west while trying to keep China happy too.
 
Robert said:
Well UK gave up its influence in Europe.

An EU Directive of 2008:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=LEGISSUM:l33178

Extended as of 2021:

https://commission.europa.eu/system/files/2021-12/1_1_178542_comm_eu_crimes_en.pdf
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Not saying the UK should lecture Europe on what to do. I am saying that the rest of Europe should realize that Islamophobia only creates trouble for themselves. If the holocaust can't be questioned then why is it okay to insult other religions?
 
PakLFC said:
Because India and Hindu's are pro west. Also the west needs majority Hindu Indian to counter China.
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India and Hindus aren't pro-west, they just have more immediate enemies to engage with for now, generally smaller and less powerful ones so they can stand a chance of coming out on top. So they will try to erase Mughal history as we have seen in other threads, but leave the British rule well alone, wisely realising that they aren't powerful enough yet to take on a great foe.
 
Cpt. Rishwat said:
India and Hindus aren't pro-west, they just have more immediate enemies to engage with for now, generally smaller and less powerful ones so they can stand a chance of coming out on top. So they will try to erase Mughal history as we have seen in other threads, but leave the British rule well alone, wisely realising that they aren't powerful enough yet to take on a great foe.
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Of they are generally pro west. Just look at Indian news channels how they are always on about America this and that. What have the Mughal's got to do with this topic? Don't know what you are on about with the rest of your mail other then the first few words.
 
PakLFC said:
Not saying the UK should lecture Europe on what to do. I am saying that the rest of Europe should realize that Islamophobia only creates trouble for themselves. If the holocaust can't be questioned then why is it okay to insult other religions?
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You’re generalising.

Questioning the facts of the Holocaust is not the same as insulting religions.

More than half the Holocaust victims were not Jewish.

The facts of the Holocaust cannot be questioned in France and Germany.

France and Germany are not all of Europe.

Are you still talking about Sweden?
 
sweep_shot said:
Who determines what is evidence? You?
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Ok. I will ask again can you provide where you got that Jews and Indian love money more than others groups. This I believe is all made up in your mind. You just made it up to please your narrative . No truth to it. Otherwise you would have provided it by now. This other person I asked please name the 12 Jewish families. Also nothing. Not a word. Also all made up. You guys are the sheep. It’s hilarious.
 
Robert said:
You’re generalising.

Questioning the facts of the Holocaust is not the same as insulting religions.

More than half the Holocaust victims were not Jewish.

The facts of the Holocaust cannot be questioned in France and Germany.

France and Germany are not all of Europe.

Are you still talking about Sweden?
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It is for me besides even if many victims of holocaust were not Jewish it is not beyond being discussed or questioned. France is one of the top countries upsetting Muslim people. I am talking about the UK's relationship vis a vas Europe. That it is beneficial for everyone if insulting all religious text is banned. Yes i know that Muslim's take it much more seriously then others.
 
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