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Talk of easy draw shows 'entitlement' - Southgate

England boss Gareth Southgate has warned against an "entitlement we have as a nation that creates drama and annoys our opponents" before Saturday's Euro 2024 quarter-final with Switzerland (17:00 BST).

The Three Lions are two wins from the final after avoiding favourites Spain and France on the other side of the draw, meaning England cannot meet them before the showpiece in Berlin on 14 July.

On the eve of the last-eight match with Switzerland - live on BBC One, BBC iPlayer and the BBC Sport website and app - BBC sports editor Dan Roan asked Southgate whether England need to take the opportunity of being in the perceived easier side of the draw.

"We are playing a really strong football nation who have played exceptionally well, have enormous pride," said Southgate, who takes charge of his 100th game as boss.

"I would say that is a classic example of the entitlement we have as a nation that creates drama and annoys our opponents.

"Our focus is on how do we win this game and how do we play to the best of our ability? We have never been to a final outside England, we have only had two finals in our history, three semi-finals.

"So lots of nations who we might perceive as English people to be smaller have far better records than us in terms of winning things, in getting to the latter stages in finals.

"It's half of the problem we have. We're ready for tomorrow and, as a team, we have huge respect for our opponents."


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Euro 2024: Talk of easy draw shows 'entitlement', says England boss Gareth Southgate

England Gareth Southgate warns against an "entitlement we have as a nation that creates drama and annoys our opponents" before Saturday's Euro 2024 quarter-final with Switzerland.
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Adios Cristiano Ronaldo 21 years in international football at the highest level, a spectacle indeed
 
Amjid Javed said:
Germany out, for all the flair players the lack of clinical striker eventually exposed then. This is what happens when your 1st choice striker is a donkey
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True …. Germany haven’t found good strikers after the retirement of Klose and podolski… Havertz playing for last few years but not effective
 
Handball penalty not awarded to Germany otherwise we could have seen penalty shoot out …. English referee was worst
 
Today's games in the Euro Cup 2024: FOR Saturday 6 July

England vs Switzerland (Düsseldorf, 04:00 pm GMT)

Netherlands vs Türkiye (Berlin, 07:00 pm GMT)
 
globetrotter said:
Handball penalty not awarded to Germany otherwise we could have seen penalty shoot out …. English referee was worst
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That wasn't handball, his arm was in natural position and behind the rest of his body
 
globetrotter said:
True …. Germany haven’t found good strikers after the retirement of Klose and podolski… Havertz playing for last few years but not effective
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Fullkrug looked decent at best and he spent most of time on bench.

Havertz movement and link up play was good, but zero conviction infront of goal and his finish is garbage. If you look at Denmark and Spain games he missed chance after chance.

I feel sorry for players like kroos, musiala and wirtz laying chances on a plate for a donkey to go and miss them.
 
Have the Dutch emerged as Euro 2024 contenders?

The Netherlands were written off by some after a disappointing group campaign at Euro 2024 - but should they now be considered contenders?

A poor 3-2 defeat by Austria meant the Netherlands only scraped through to the last 16 as one of the third-placed teams, but the Dutch, ranked seventh in the world, responded with a thumping 3-0 win over Romania on Tuesday.

A quarter-final against Turkey awaits and they have avoided some European giants in their side of the draw.

"Of course, we are here with one mission and that is to win the Euros," said Dutch defender Denzel Dumfries.

"We have a strong team with strong qualities. From the beginning we were focused and we don't lose our focus. The bigger picture is clear."

What is the perception back home?

After a strong end to their qualifying campaign and the return of injured players, there was growing optimism in the Netherlands before Euro 2024.

Manager Ronald Koeman had an array of talent to select from and players like Jeremie Frimpong, Nathan Ake and Virgil van Dijk had good seasons with their clubs.

But the mood dropped very quickly as they stumbled through the group stages, needing a late winner against Poland, drawing with France and losing to Austria.

A defensive collapse in their loss to Austria - with star captain Van Dijk at fault - led to widespread criticism from the likes of former internationals including Marco van Basten and Rafael van der Vaart on Dutch TV.

Koeman did not appear to have found his best XI and Van Dijk's passion was questioned by Van der Vaart.

"The game against Austria was a bit of a wake-up up call," former Dutch winger Bolo Zenden told BBC Sport.

"I don't think they played particularly well. We knew how Austria would play but it seemed they were surprised by it. That was strange. I thought they would be prepared.

"They had some talks internally and put things straight. It paid off against Romania. They played solid and created a lot of chances. The confidence is totally back."

Dutch fan Thomas, who has been supporting the team in Germany, said the "only way is up" now.

"There's always a chance we can go all the way," said Thomas. "Van Dijk is still our strongest defender. He is one of the best in the world and a great leader. He had a bad game against Austria but that's it."

Former Netherlands defender Mario Melchiot told BBC Radio 5 Live: "We were stronger and stood up well against Romania. This is the first game where everyone in the nation said they played well."

Criticism of Van Dijk and Gakpo's form

For many, hopes of progression will rest on the shoulders of Liverpool captain Van Dijk.

A clean sheet against Austria went some way towards silencing his critics - but Van Dijk is not the only one being questioned, with manager Koeman also under the spotlight.

"The manager always gets the most criticism when the team is not performing," said Zenden.

"With the Dutch, you can lose a game but do it by playing in a certain style of football and confidence that reflects us - and that was lacking. That is why Koeman got criticism.

"The likes of Van Dijk got criticism because he was obviously not in the right position when the Dutch conceded those goals against Austria.

"That's not what we expect from him because he plays at such a high level for Liverpool and so consistently. It was obvious he made mistakes."

But former defender Melchiot believes the Dutch got the best out of Van Dijk against Romania as he was "left to do his job".

"When he plays for Liverpool we cannot doubt his ability because of the way he has played, you cannot question it," added Melchiot.

"He is a defender and that's what he is good at – defending, playing simple balls and just doing his job. At Holland, they expect more than that.

"That sometimes goes against him because they expect him to set the tempo, lead the backline, play passes out from the back, etc, but then his focus might go.

"The way they played against Romania was better for him because the midfielders picked up the ball so he could just focus on his job. He plays totally different for Holland than Liverpool."

Despite some struggles, there have been plenty of positives. Goalkeeper Bart Verbruggen has received praise, while Cody Gakpo is the tournament's joint-top scorer with three goals and one assist.

Across the last two major tournaments, the only European player with more goals than Gakpo (six in nine games) is France's Kylian Mbappe (nine in 10 games).

"Cody has been playing at a high standard for the past four years at least. I see him every day and the hard work that he puts in," said Van Dijk.

"He just keeps improving. He doesn't worry about criticism. He is very important for us and he just needs to stay like that and take that responsibility."

'People are saying the Dutch can go all the way'

A lot can change in a tournament.

The Netherlands are the only third-placed team from the group stage to progress to the quarter-finals.

Seeing off Romania gave them a first knockout win at a Euros since 2004, and they want more.

Belief has returned and Zenden says "the sun is shining now" for the Oranje after receiving "a lifeline" with the draw.

While Germany were knocked out by Spain and Portugal lost to France on Friday, the Netherlands would face Switzerland or England in the semi-finals should they beat Turkey on Saturday.

"Usually if you finish third in the group stages you are home. Now, all of a sudden, you have this lifeline. That’s why people are talking about the Dutch," said Zenden.

"Instead of facing Germany, France, Spain or Portugal, they play Turkey. It will not be easy, but if the Dutch had to play others then of course people would look differently at their chances.

"Now people are saying the Dutch can go all the way."

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So Turkey player gets 2 game ban for his celebration, Bellingham gets to choose when he gets his ban.

Embarrassing to say the least
 
Trippier in front of Trent as a wing back , more defensive nonsense .

Swiss have a great opportunity today
 
Spanish midfielder Pedri will miss the rest of Euro 2024 due to a knee injury

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Saka looking England's most dangerous player so far
 
Somehow I don’t like Southgate is taking off the White players here. Still remember all the hatred Rashford and Saka received after the penalty shoot out last time.
 

Netherlands vs Turkey Starting XIs:​


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England stepped back from the brink of a Euro 2024 exit again as they secured a semi-final place with victory over Switzerland on penalties in Dusseldorf.

Gareth Southgate’s side, who were rescued by Jude Bellingham’s spectacular late equaliser in the last 16 against Slovakia, were in trouble once more when Breel Embolo stole in at the far post to put Switzerland ahead with only 15 minutes left.

Bukayo Saka then produced a moment of individual brilliance of the sort England have relied on heavily throughout the tournament to equalise with a fierce low shot five minutes later.

Extra time failed to find a winner, England going through with a set of flawless penalties after goalkeeper Jordan Pickford saved Manuel Akanji’s first spot-kick.

Cole Palmer, Jude Bellingham, Saka and Ivan Toney were all successful before substitute Trent Alexander-Arnold hammered home the decisive penalty in front of England’s delirious supporters.

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Southgate’s job is saved lol

If England get to the final, they’d have had to maybe faced 1-2 top 3-5 teams in the world the entire tournament.
 
The Netherlands came from behind to beat Turkey and set up a semi-final against England at Euro 2024

An own goal from Mert Muldur, bundling the ball over his goalline under pressure from Cody Gakpo, meant the Dutch clawed back the lead having trailed at the break.

Centre-back Samet Akaydin had deservedly put Turkey in front when he headed in Arda Guler's dinked cross, capping an impressive first-half display.

He ran over to the Turkey fans, kissed the badge on his shirt and knelt down to pray in front of them, while substitutes sprinted down the touchline.

But their celebrations would not last as the Netherlands, who had a poor first half, responded after the break, buoyed by substitute Wout Weghorst.

They found an equaliser through Stefan de Vrij's header, moments after Weghorst made a crucial interception inside his own box to stop Turkey's Kaan Ayhan getting to a rebound.

Turkey almost doubled their lead when Real Madrid's Guler bent a brilliant free-kick on to the post, but did not capitalise when they had their chances.

It means Ronald Koeman's side will now take on England in Dortmund on Wednesday (20:00 BST), hoping for a place in the final against either France or Spain.

Source: BBC
 
Turkey set the tournament ablaze, such a shame to see them go out, especially with England going through playing like mugs. Netherlands/England is going to be another snooze fest.
 
shaz619 said:
Turkey set the tournament ablaze, such a shame to see them go out, especially with England going through playing like mugs. Netherlands/England is going to be another snooze fest.
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To wasteful with chances at end of the game, gave to poor goals away

But they played with bravery, unlike most teams in tournament
 
Amjid Javed said:
To wasteful with chances at end of the game, gave to poor goals away

But they played with bravery, unlike most teams in tournament
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That OG was unacceptable and they crumbled when they had a strong chance to level minutes after, but for the way they’ve played some luck ought to have gone their way, maybe it would have if they were facing teams like Switzerland opposed to a former Euro champion with a rich history and footballing culture.
 
Like I said before. Like him or not. Southgate, is England's most successful manager when it comes to getting the team deep in to tournaments. And if England do win it, he has to go down as successful as any England manager that's ever been.

He's instilled the never say die attitude, and made them in to a mentally very strong side, which wasn't the case before under previous managers
 
shaz619 said:
That OG was unacceptable and they crumbled when they had a strong chance to level minutes after, but for the way they’ve played some luck ought to have gone their way, maybe it would have if they were facing teams like Switzerland opposed to a former Euro champion with a rich history and footballing culture.
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Even the 1st goal was poor, non existent marking on the cross. But at 1-0 they tried to go for another goal, so can't blame the attitude they showed.

Just lack of composure at end was costly
 
this england team resonates a lot more with ethnic minorities, the players seem comfortable in their own skin, and when you see the team play you can tell colour has nothing to do with anything, they all their doing their thing.

the only downside is until they 1 down, they been playing absolute dross. need to drop kano and get someone with a little movement, give some of the creative players a bit more freedom of movement.
 
ElRaja said:
this england team resonates a lot more with ethnic minorities, the players seem comfortable in their own skin, and when you see the team play you can tell colour has nothing to do with anything, they all their doing their thing.

the only downside is until they 1 down, they been playing absolute dross. need to drop kano and get someone with a little movement, give some of the creative players a bit more freedom of movement.
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Absolutely doesn't. It's very evident at Grass roots, institutional racism exists when it comes to ethnic minorities representation in football .

And it's even worse when it comes to academy level. Hence, hardly any ethnic minority professionals or role models to look up to.

The England team is a million miles away for a ethnic minority brit
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Absolutely doesn't. It's very evident at Grass roots, institutional racism exists when it comes to ethnic minorities representation in football .

And it's even worse when it comes to academy level. Hence, hardly any ethnic minority professionals or role models to look up to.

The England team is a million miles away for a ethnic minority brit
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no its not. the england team is fully of ethnic minorty players, so have no idea how u can say theirs no role models, and i knew ethnic kids a decade or two ago who made it to prem and england age grade teams from the roughest parts of London. the game is crazy competitive, but if your good enough you will make it to the top.

i see the younger generation ethnic minority kids, and they are die hard england supporters. and that wasn't necessarily the case twenty years ago.
 
EURO 2024 semi-finals:

Tuesday 9 July

Spain vs France (Munich, 07:00 om GMT)


Wednesday 10 July

Netherlands vs England (Dortmund, 07:00 pm GMT)
 
Spain and France are on a different level, End and Ned watchout
 
Kianig89 said:
Spain and France are on a different level, End and Ned watchout
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France have been boring and mediocre like England all tournament.

Spain look better then the other 3 teams left.
 
aboveandbeyond said:
Absolutely doesn't. It's very evident at Grass roots, institutional racism exists when it comes to ethnic minorities representation in football .

And it's even worse when it comes to academy level. Hence, hardly any ethnic minority professionals or role models to look up to.

The England team is a million miles away for a ethnic minority brit
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Maybe they need something like SACA. I am not normally into victim politics but I do agree that desi kids are stereotyped as being poor at football. We had interesting experience a few years ago when my lad played for the district at football, but couldn't get selected by his PE teacher at school because he " wasn't good enough".
 
Kianig89 said:
France are gritting it out, another aspect of champions ability they have quality all around. They should beat Spain
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So England play rubbish and rightly criticised. France do same and its gritting it out 🤣🤦‍♂️

2 own goals and a penalty so far foe France.

Only reason they don't get criticised is because they players got to a world cup final before. Reality is the 2 world cups were based on mbappe being on fire all tournament. France have been rubbish in last euros and this one.
 
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Bewal Express said:
Maybe they need something like SACA. I am not normally into victim politics but I do agree that desi kids are stereotyped as being poor at football. We had interesting experience a few years ago when my lad played for the district at football, but couldn't get selected by his PE teacher at school because he " wasn't good enough".
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Also it's a culture issue, with Desi boys not fitting in on the social side of things.
I agree. I'm normally against victim politics, but these issues in society are all relevant. We have a hugh Asian community here, who are mad in to football and cricket, yet through out the systems there's a block off. And even though I'm not his biggest fan. Azeem Rafiq was spot on when it comes to cricket and it's issues with racism.
 
Amjid Javed said:
So England play rubbish and rightly criticised. France do same and its gritting it out 🤣🤦‍♂️

2 own goals and a penalty so far foe France.

Only reason they don't get criticised is because they players got to a world cup final before. Reality is the 2 world cups were based on mbappe being on fire all tournament. France have been rubbish in last euros and this one.
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Agree. Mbappe has carried France in past Tournaments.
 
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UEFA to roll out rule change that will affect Arsenal, Man City and Liverpool following Euro 2024 success

Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool are among the clubs who will be impacted by the rollout of an initiative unveiled at Euro 2024.

The Euros in Germany has seen UEFA restrict dialogue with referees solely to a team's captain.

This is with a view to maximising fair play and respect to officials and reducing foul play between players and coaches.

Such has been the success of the initiative at EURO 2024, UEFA have revealed that the plan will be used in all UEFA men's and women's competitions this term, including the Champions League, Europa League and Europa Conference League.

A UEFA Statement said: "The success of this new approach, understood by the actors of the game and welcomed by the public opinion as unquestionable progress for the image of football, boosts our confidence that this is the way forward.

"Fair play and respect are values that football, the most popular game in the world, must convey to our societies.

"Starting with the new season of UEFA club competitions ready to kick off next week, this approach will therefore be extended to all matches in UEFA competitions."

This season's Champions League will feature Manchester City, Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa, who secure their spot after finishing fifth in the Premier League.

Tottenham and Manchester United will compete in the Europa League, while Chelsea will take their place in the Europa Conference League.

Meanwhile, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester City are among the clubs who will be competing in the Women's Champions League.

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UEFA rule change that will affect England's elite after Euro 2024 success

Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool are among the clubs who will be impacted by the rollout of an initiative unveiled at Euro 2024. The Euros in Germany has seen UEFA restrict dialogue with refe…
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After the Switzerland match, in a corner of the concourse under the Düsseldorf Arena, a number of England fans are lingering and celebrating. Some are cheering “auf Wiedersehen” and waving mockingly at Swiss and German supporters. Others are singing their new chant: “There’ll be no Musiala in Berlin,” to the tune of Ten Green Bottles (or Ten German Bombers, depending on your preference). All the supporters are white, but about 50 metres away stand two young black English fans from east London.

“What a game, what an incredible atmosphere,” says one, dressed in the current mauve England shirt. And how about those penalties? “Just unbelievable. Saka rolling it into the bottom corner. We were so happy for him.” Because of what happened at the last Euros? “Yeah, and in the last week. He’s been getting so much abuse online and it was just great to see him stick it to the haters.”

Nilesh Chauhan is the campaign organiser for Fans for Diversity. He has been organising watch parties for south Asian England fans at home and came out to the Euros to do some work with the Football Association, helping to arrange a tour for Jewish England fans to the site of the former concentration camp at Bergen-Belsen. He also took in some matches, including England’s against Serbia. “I had a really good time,” he says, having, like many England supporters, returned home. “It was a good experience and I’d love to do it again, probably for longer. But there were a few little incidents …”

Chauhan relates the experience of being the only Asian supporter in a bar when England fans were acting inappropriately – “You know, pulling moonies and stuff” – though “there was nothing said against us at the time”. Then there was the moment before the Serbia game when an England fan “just popped out of nowhere” and told him to boo the Serbian anthem. “I was actually quite worried,” Chauhan says. “I said: ‘No, I don’t want to do that,’ but I didn’t really want to get into a confrontation with him. I was trying to ignore him as well, because I had a feeling he had a few drinks in him.”

Chauhan said the man disappeared as quickly as he had arrived, his seat clearly being elsewhere in the ground. But this moment echoed what he describes as his “worst ever experience watching England”, when he was a teenager in 2005 during a friendly against the Netherlands at Villa Park, a 0-0 draw.

“I was a young lad and I went with my dad and my brother and there was a chant called: ‘Stand up if you’re English,’” Chauhan recalls. “Now we stood up – me and my dad and my brother – and we got laughed at. We got told to sit down. It was actually terrifying. So when I was going this time round it was always on my mind. One hundred per cent you’ve got to be aware of where you are and how you behave and how you conduct yourself.”

Later in the night after the win against Switzerland, I overhear five England fans having a conversation. They are all Asian, three of them older, two of them much younger and they are debating the contemporary nature of racism within the England support. One of the younger lads, wearing the blue 1990 shirt, says it doesn’t exist any more, to which the older guys pretty much laugh in response. “It’s not on the surface,” one says, “but it’s still there.” Eventually the younger ones agree and after a short while they head off to bed.

The three older guys are from the Midlands and have spent their lives not just as passionate football fans but actively involved in the game, coaching, mentoring, driving their kids around and even financing local teams to help to grow the game in the south Asian community. Friends for 50 years, they have come to follow England for the first time. In previous years, one says: “I’d only ever go to a tournament when I knew England were already out.”

Let’s quickly repeat: these are English fans, passionate for their country, but they do not feel included. “We are England till we die, we just want to be let in,” they say. “Just invite us in, we’ve got so much to give.” That hasn’t happened, though and instead they take care never to wear an England shirt to games, make sure to get tickets in the family stand and, throughout their road trip across Germany, have had to message home after each match to let their loved ones know they are safe. “Our primary consideration is safety,” they say.

They all add that they never feel this way watching England play cricket or rugby (though they have stories to tell about golf).

They have had a great time on this tour and acknowledge the concerns relate only to a small minority. “But it only takes one,” they say, “and you can never tell when it might be.”


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Ethnic minority England fans at Euro 2024 still feel unsafe and excluded

There is representation from black and Asian communities in England’s travelling support but too many still feel isolated
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Nothing has changed much. Before black players were getting racially abused in the terraces because of no social media. Now it's all on social media , and the same perpetrators know they can hide behind that .
 
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Euro 2024 semis…..

Spain Vs. France ……. Spain
England Vs.Netherland……… Netherland
 
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