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Umar Akmal versus Virat Kohli

Goodness me Incutter you don't have a Pakistani heart what do you mean at this stage ?
 
Kohli is 100000000 of miles ahead of Akmal at this stage.........this isnt even a comparision..........now.
 
Thats another match winning hundred for Kohli , how many 100s has Umar scored ?

leave alone Kohli , even Rohit Sharma is miles ahead of Umar
 
PaPaPak said:
Goodness me Incutter you don't have a Pakistani heart what do you mean at this stage ?
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:facepalm:

Translation: I meant at the moment, Kohli is a way better batsman. Umar is good at the moment, but thats it.

And yes I do have a Pakistani heart, I love Pakistani cricket. But I also appreciate talent from other nations- including India. Im not biased.
 
Bullet Drive said:
He's out now, well played however you were lucky.
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Umar akmal bats like a tailender these days. He has no composure in his innings !! Never know when the brainfart is gonna come!
Kohli is way better than Umar Akmal.
 
PaPaPak said:
in-cutter so you are saying playing or not playing at home makes no difference ?
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Whatever man just accept it he is a better player then that glorified slogger of ours!!
And yeah Kohli performed very well against England in England !!
Give the credit where its due
 
Umar should come early in the batting order, maybe one or two down.
Seen few games and he play pace bowling really well ( when he faces spin he does play like sehwag ).
Pak team is messing up with him. :facepalm:
 
pakcrickfan said:
Kohli can score runs only on these kind of pancakes. I bet he will be struggling in Australia where they bounce him out easily. this guy is not good against short pitch bowling. I would say Rohit is far better player, infact Rohit is the only younger better than Umar Akmal as far as talent is concerned.
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averages 57 in SA n 40 in Eng
 
velu said:
Umar should come early in the batting order, maybe one or two down.
Seen few games and he play pace bowling really well ( when he faces spin he does play like sehwag ).
Pak team is messing up with him. :facepalm:
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THIS.

Have been harping on this for years!!
 
Kohli has better temperament (still) than Rohit, who has more range of shots than Kohli.
 
Rohit makes batting look very easy, in 2 years time I'd feel very sad if he isn't ahead of Kohli in all departments.
 
Kohli is ahead. But its a very long race.They have 12+ years of their career ahead of them. Kohli has got better start. Doesn't mean he'll finish first.
 
Cricfan4eva said:
Rohit makes batting look very easy, in 2 years time I'd feel very sad if he isn't ahead of Kohli in all departments.
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he should've been ahead already.has got talent rare people possess,but hadnt made use of it so far,hope he is more consistent now
 
cricketworm said:
Kohli has better temperament (still) than Rohit, who has more range of shots than Kohli.
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Kohli always had better temperament, never likes to get out and works harder.
But what most of the people hate him is his antics.
There is no reason to throw unparliamentary words when it was the time to celebrate. :facepalm:
 
lol , this thread should be closed now. This class gulf is too wide.

India has bright batting future, kohli and sharma are excellent bats.
 
velu said:
Kohli always had better temperament, never likes to get out and works harder.
But what most of the people hate him is his antics.
There is no reason to throw unparliamentary words when it was the time to celebrate. :facepalm:
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He is young machan ... he will learn ... we are not him ... may be cussing calms him down ... we will never know. I know it's embarrassing that he does it on TV, while many are watching it, however almost all batsmen have some weird ways to calm them down. For Kohli it must be cussing! This makes him unique, at least it shows, he is so much involved in the game emotionally.
 
Virat Kohli in run-chases in ODIs - 38 Matches, 1760 runs, 56.78 Average, 5 100s and 11 50s.

Rohit Sharma, since being recalled this year: 8 Matches, 419 Runs, 140 Average.
 
Kohli is at the moment better than Rohit, Bravo or Umar.

In fact, he has more international hundreds than all of theirs put together!

But as someone pointed out above, it's a long race. Just because Kohli is off to a great start, doesn't mean he will finish his career ahead.
 
velu said:
Umar should come early in the batting order, maybe one or two down.
Seen few games and he play pace bowling really well ( when he faces spin he does play like sehwag ).
Pak team is messing up with him. :facepalm:
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True.

They are messing him up and Asad Shafiq as well.
Umar-Asad could be for Pak what Virat-Rohit are for India.
But sadly, our management is more interested in picking Malik/Younis continuously irrespective of their performances. :)
 
I am really impressed the way Kohli changed his game to become more responsible in the ODI games. I used to get so frustrated when he used to just throw away good stats. Rohit Sharma too has made a brilliant comeback to the Indian team. Since the West Indies tour he has anchored couple of tight chases for India. Ravindra Jadeja is another youngster who has made a fantastic comeback against all odds. The one player who in form can make the Indian team formidable is Irfan Pathan. If he gets back in to the Indian scheme of things, the Indian team will be in great position for the years to come.

The batting future looks bright though, Rahane, Pujara, Kohli, Rohit, GG, Sehwag.
 
have said this before and will say it again, there is no comparison among them at this stage. Kohli has achieved a lot more.

this thread should be locked in the archives for the next 2 years, may be then we can have a better comparison
 
Will any Indian say that Umar is better than Virat? Don't think so.

Will any Pakistani say that Virat is better than Umar? Highly unlikely.

Stupid thread. Useless discussion.
 
Kohli is a better batsman than Akmal

Kohli likes to time the ball, Akmal likes to hit the ball

Kohli hits his cheeky shots but learns from his mistakes.

from what I have seen Kohli is a better batsman but Akmal is a slogger who can bat a bit. He does not seem to have the mental aptitude to last for a long innings apart from every 30-40 innings. Kohli on the other hand is consistent which is always better.
 
Can add Umar Akmal along with other sloggers like Shahzaib, Jamshed, Nazir, Afridi.

He can play sensible innings but that is all too rare from him. He is a tulla-baazi player who never learns from his mistakes. Batting coach or not, he should at least use his head and not gift his wicket to the opposition. He did the same when he played for the Academy team. Mudassar Nazar had to really give him a rollocking.
 
Markhor said:
Can add Umar Akmal along with other sloggers like Shahzaib, Jamshed, Nazir, Afridi.

He can play sensible innings but that is all too rare from him. He is a tulla-baazi player who never learns from his mistakes.
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Akmal is basically Afridi when he plays sensibly
 
Is that really up for question anymore? You cannot be stating a more obvious fact. Kohli >>>>>>>>>>Akmal. Get this slogger out of the team please, maybe that's the only way you can knock some sense into him.
 
lol, what a time to make this thread , even still akmal has a better average than kohli in test and t20s and also a better strikerate in odis and t20s , just sayin..although kohli is a gun , can we stop these silly comparisons for once .but todays stroke and that green lipstick thing is just horrible ..
 
kohli got good seniors with him.....Likes of sachin, sehwag, dhoni..They all are good batsman and plays the ball well...On the other hands, we have garbage YK and TUK TUK master Misbah along with brain fart LALA...What else would you expect.

We produce better bowlers due the same reason as indian do the batsman..
 
Umar Akmal holed out to long-off in the previous match as well. You don't need a batting coach to know that you should not be repeating the same mistakes twice. Even if we do hire a batting coach - there is no substitute for a good cricketing brain.
 
Needs a dressingdown for the shot he played today. Disgraceful and completely brainless.
 
You guys have come to this conclusion after one T20 game? how fickle you guys are. Umar was better or as good as Kohli prior to this innings but now Umar is all in sudden a slogger and terrible player. For me, still he is the brightest talent from your team. He needs to sort out his mental game and overall approach to his game as well.
 
madaboutcricket said:
You guys have come to this conclusion after one T20 game? how fickle you guys are. Umar was better or as good as Kohli prior to this innings but now Umar is all in sudden a slogger and terrible player. For me, still he is the brightest talent from your team. He needs to sort out his mental game and overall approach to his game as well.
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Agreed these fans are so fickle. Umar is best batting talent in world cricket and far better then kohli. One brainless dismissal doesn't change things for me.
 
He is very talented but needs dropping down from international cricket to domestic for at least a year before he's mentally tough enough for international return... pakistan will need him in the future
 
I would say a hundred times better koli has scored 9 centuries in less then 2 years when he debut . Our very own umer akmal is playing since 2008 and yet only 1 century pathetic record compare to kohli's :(
 
PennOne said:
Kohli likes to time the ball, Akmal likes to hit the ball

Kohli hits his cheeky shots but learns from his mistakes.

from what I have seen Kohli is a better batsman but Akmal is a slogger who can bat a bit. He does not seem to have the mental aptitude to last for a long innings apart from every 30-40 innings. Kohli on the other hand is consistent which is always better.
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why is this even a discussion, this is obvious that Kholi is a proper batsment compared to the hack who once in a blue moon can hit a good shot.
 
Anwar_194 said:
kohli got good seniors with him.....Likes of sachin, sehwag, dhoni..They all are good batsman and plays the ball well...On the other hands, we have garbage YK and TUK TUK master Misbah along with brain fart LALA...What else would you expect.

We produce better bowlers due the same reason as indian do the batsman..
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+1

Technically there is not much between them imo but Kohli, despite his hot headedness, has a great temperament which has surely been helped by being involved with the players he has played with.

Batting is as much mental as it is physical or technical and the likes of Akmal seem to suffer here.
 
Kohli may well go on to become a legend, Umar Akmal can probably be a decent batsman on international level, both are worlds apart.
 
Gabbar Singh said:
+1

Technically there is not much between them imo but Kohli, despite his hot headedness, has a great temperament which has surely been helped by being involved with the players he has played with.

Batting is as much mental as it is physical or technical and the likes of Akmal seem to suffer here.
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this is what I was trying to say. he needs to work on his mental game. he seems to have the talent needed for at least the limited over games.
 
Anwar_194 said:
kohli got good seniors with him.....Likes of sachin, sehwag, dhoni..They all are good batsman and plays the ball well...On the other hands, we have garbage YK and TUK TUK master Misbah along with brain fart LALA...What else would you expect.

We produce better bowlers due the same reason as indian do the batsman..
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So it was YK who forced him to have brainfarts sitting on the bench last two innings. How pathetic can some ppl get.
 
Rohit and Umar are soul brothers. Both look very good when they play shots, but brainfarts a lot. I still think both should be given more chances in top 4. I have not given up on them.
 
madaboutcricket said:
you guys have come to this conclusion after one t20 game? How fickle you guys are. Umar was better or as good as kohli prior to this innings but now umar is all in sudden a slogger and terrible player. For me, still he is the brightest talent from your team. He needs to sort out his mental game and overall approach to his game as well.
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+1
 
Down2Earth said:
lol it's a T20 slogfest, judge him when he plays an ODI or test
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Seems like you didn't watch the ODIs. Apart from one good innings he was very poor.

If he doesn't work harder on his batting technique and attitude he should be dropped.

What on earth did he do today after Afridi had thrown away his wicket?
 
Kohli's better at the moment and does learn better than umar. Umar's a bigger talent though.

Those two Umar akmal and Rohit Sharma are by far the two most talented youngster batsman on the circuit today. They're on another level to the other guys. Talent isn't always converted to results, and it's a little sad both these guys haven't been setting the world alight. Umar's a very good limited overs batsman (even if Kohli might be better than him), Rohit has been average so far struggling to cement a spot in the side.
 
and they umar akmal is going he is never gonna be counted as a batsmen, whats the use.of such innings when your scores are like 0,12,9,0,1,2,15,46,0,1,18 ?
 
Umar Akmal is more talented than Kohli.
But in ODIs Kohli is learning from way better ODI batsmen. While Umar Akmal has to put up with YK in ODIs who is one of the world's worst ODI player.
 
jy1970us said:
Umar Akmal is more talented than Kohli.
But in ODIs Kohli is learning from way better ODI batsmen. While Umar Akmal has to put up with YK in ODIs who is one of the world's worst ODI player.
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You need to get a life kid. Umar scores his only odi hundred with YK at the other end in a big partnership.

He is more talented then kohli? Again you need to look up the word talent.
 
How he got out today? I mean is it more stupid than customary Hafeez dismissals? I think UA is not helped by a defencise Captain & novice coach who are making him bat at 6 (& Shafique at 3 in LOs!).

Almost 40 years back a certain outstanding WI young man, batting at 6 was playing very attractive 30s & 40s until Captain Loyd decided to put him in top 3 (opener or one down) against Lillie & Thommo. He struggled big time, WI lost 5-1, but Loyd persisted with & that young man learned to fight it out; the very next year scored the then Test record, almost 1,800 Test runs. No comparison, but I somehow feel extra responsibility & freedom of natural batting style 'll help UA. For his age, he is very good under pressure, but often is forced to play despertel with a tail which starts from 7. May be batting at 3 'll help him to play bigger innings.

Virat comes from Indian domestic setup, where 600+ innings are very common & at a very young age Indian batsmen learn to convert starts & stick at the wicket to play really big innings. Besides, at NCA Bangalore, Virat was trained by the best in the business, when it comes to groom young batsmen. I feel, if anyone breaks SRT's 49 ODI hundreds, it might be VK. During 2007 to 10, from that NCA under that certain Aussie, few others came out & 10 -12 years back, this gentleman had a great role in grooming the likes of Atapatu, Mahela, Sanga & Dilshan; all of whom are very good in converting starts.
 
With the amount of talent he has he can become something big - the next best batsmen from Pakistan maybe. However, the ways in which he gets out are just :facepalm: worthy, tbh.

MMHS said:
How he got out today? I mean is it more stupid than customary Hafeez dismissals? I think UA is not helped by a defencise Captain & novice coach who are making him bat at 6 (& Shafique at 3 in LOs!).

Almost 40 years back a certain outstanding WI young man, batting at 6 was playing very attractive 30s & 40s until Captain Loyd decided to put him in top 3 (opener or one down) against Lillie & Thommo. He struggled big time, WI lost 5-1, but Loyd persisted with & that young man learned to fight it out; the very next year scored the then Test record, almost 1,800 Test runs. No comparison, but I somehow feel extra responsibility & freedom of natural batting style 'll help UA. For his age, he is very good under pressure, but often is forced to play despertel with a tail which starts from 7. May be batting at 3 'll help him to play bigger innings.

Virat comes from Indian domestic setup, where 600+ innings are very common & at a very young age Indian batsmen learn to convert starts & stick at the wicket to play really big innings. Besides, at NCA Bangalore, Virat was trained by the best in the business, when it comes to groom young batsmen. I feel, if anyone breaks SRT's 49 ODI hundreds, it might be VK. During 2007 to 10, from that NCA under that certain Aussie, few others came out & 10 -12 years back, this gentleman had a great role in grooming the likes of Atapatu, Mahela, Sanga & Dilshan; all of whom are very good in converting starts.
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^^

Completely agree with this!

Virat has had the privilege to be batting alongside the best batsmen in the business whereas Umar has had to have the responsibility of being our best batsman.
 
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