Umar Akmal versus Virat Kohli

[MIB]

Umar has more natural ability talent and style. Kohli is useless player who just scores 50 plus scores on consistent basis. Nothing great about it

A player who just score 50 plus is useless player??? and Wat is the use of Umar's style when he dont score runs?

 

[Zoab_Khan]

Sad to say but our whole society is going down the drain. We cannot produce any leaders, politicians because those professions have already been hijacked by a few families. Now even cricketers we produce are more into making an extra dollar even if it means selling out their honor and sifarish is #1 on the list.

 

[ali_ed2006]

A player who just score 50 plus is useless player??? and Wat is the use of Umar's style when he dont score runs?

I think you missed his sarcasm...at least I hope that's what he was aiming for.

 

[cricnut]

Umar Akaml should consider himself lucky that inspite of his constant low scores he is still getting so many chances to feature in the National side , while on the other hand Kohli's selection in the Fully fit Indian team is yet not confirmed with the return on seniors.

 

[kkmix]

Umar Akmal needs to be dropped...bring him back after 2 years, make him play domestic matches.

 

[Indiafan]

it's not about temperament, it's about grooming.

if Umar Akmal was surrounded by so many performing and experienced players, he would show a lot better performance than Virat.

he's had to perform all sorts of roles to soon in his career, and that has messed him up mentally.

Kohli too has to cosistantly fight for his place in the side. He is still not a certainity in the final world cup 11. Imagine the pressure on him. Plus most of the time he played was when the big guns were rested.

did you even watch this series before making your comments? What senior players were there to guide him? Murali Vijay? Rohit Sharma? Parthiv Patel?

 

[jeetu]

Umar Akmal tries to play like Afridi , he will be better off approaching game on the lines of Younis , Yousuf.
Kohli looks to be good prospect for future , similar like Pujara.

 

[Decipher]

Kohli is a pro who does not only have a supreme batting technique and hand coordination but he is extremely mature, very well composed and very serious about his game..... while Umer Akmal is a joker.

 

[Digital]

Even though i hate Indian cricketers..I must admit the fact Kohli is way ahead of Umar, Kohli is determined to play for India..where Umar fails to do that and mindless slogging

 

[sunnykhan]

Umar has more natural ability talent and style. Kohli is useless player who just scores 50 plus scores on consistent basis. Nothing great about it

Yeah umar akmal is a legend who is flopping nowadays cosistently. Now say who is useless?

If a player who is scoring 50+ score is a useless player than i think the whole Pak team is useless as compared to him coz no one in our team can score 50+ score on consistent basis

PPl can see yesterdays match of INDIA VS SOUTH AFRICA. Indian batting collapsing but kohli stood like Wall. He scored 87 in 92 deliveries in such a pressure situation.

He can't score out of india or face better bowlers are just stupid excuses.

 

[cricketfan2010]

kohli had the benefit of playing around very good batsmen so he didn't have much pressure on him whereas umar akmal literally became our best batsman for a year or so. talent wise, umar akmal wins.

People normally call them bunch of FTBs.. Rather then great batsmen.

In any case Kohli might not even get a game in the world cup. He is still behind Yuvraj and Raina in packing order as both provide option of bowling few overs. But he is definitely a good backup to have..

 

[srt]

kholi has had it tuff.. i read an articlw which said he lost his father when he was only 15.. was his fathers dream to see him play for india u-15 but did not get selected .. he worked hard was the captain of india u-19 in the world cup and won it for india.. he is not doing great for the national team.. has scored more than 4 centuries and is our future

 

[cricnut]

kholi has had it tuff.. i read an articlw which said he lost his father when he was only 15.. was his fathers dream to see him play for india u-15 but did not get selected .. he worked hard was the captain of india u-19 in the world cup and won it for india.. he is not doing great for the national team.. has scored more than 4 centuries and is our future

Thanks for telling behind the screen stories Mr Srt
Please do come more often on this forum during the world cup

 

[chui_kadoo]

Umar Akmal failed yet again today. Clearly Kohli is miles better than the over rated Umar Akmal who is fast becoming a joke

 

[srt]

Thanks for telling behind the screen stories Mr Srt
Please do come more often on this forum during the world cup

ty v much .. will be here for sure

 

[haroonrasheed320]

Umar has more natural ability talent and style. Kohli is useless player who just scores 50 plus scores on consistent basis. Nothing great about it

Give me any player who scores 50+ every match, we would love to have one.

edit note: pardon if you are being sarcastic

 

[midaz]

Guys! Lets forget the country bias for the time being and rate them purely on the basis of their cricketing abilities. Based on that I believe Kohli is way ahead of U.Akmal

 

[cric_fan82]

joke of a thread! kohli is miles ahead of umar

 

[chui_kadoo]

Umar Akmal is just a poor man's Afridi nowadays

 

[Boi]

Umar Akmal needs to bat higher up the order. Number 3 imo.

 

[AZ]

Kohli too has to cosistantly fight for his place in the side. He is still not a certainity in the final world cup 11. Imagine the pressure on him. Plus most of the time he played was when the big guns were rested.

did you even watch this series before making your comments? What senior players were there to guide him? Murali Vijay? Rohit Sharma? Parthiv Patel?

looks like you read and understand what you wanted to from my post.

if being surrounded by experienced and performing players does not help one acclimatize to intl. cricket, then what does?

India have the likes of Sachin, Sehwag, Gambhir to take the bulk of the pressure of scoring in ODIS, do they not?

the other India players you've mentioned, they have their own issues...we weren't hear to discuss their issues...but for the sake of it, I think Vijay needs to work on his technique, Sharma is gifted but lazy, and Patel is not good enough to play in the top order in the long run.

 

[moumotta]

Kohli isn't fit enough to eat his lunch off Umars used toilet paper !!!!!!

Umar has more natural ability !!!

More natural ability to do what? What ever Kohli is not fit enough to do?


Back to the topic- it is too early to judge one way or the other. They both have long careers ahead of them.

 

[mastermind_quad]

^^ yep they both have long career ahead ...and both are promising .....

PS : would be better to compare them after 3 - 4 years....

 

[Gunner786]

there isnt a comparison here.
kohli is ten times the player akmal is.
hes not gonna sell himself for just a few grand.

 

[Boi]

Umar Akmal failed yet again today. Clearly Kohli is miles better than the over rated Umar Akmal who is fast becoming a joke

lol, he scored 60 odd an ODI ago. :aali

 

[MRSN]

kohli is in good form and Umer akmal is in bad form.You can not compare both at this time.Kohli played most of the matches on flat tracks wherese Umer played in Aus,NZ,Eng,SA,WI and all of them away from home.Umer akmal bats at no,5 and Kohli at 3.You just can not compare both of them.Its like you are saying watson is better than Ricky ponting just becoz Watson is in good form

 

[talha3]

^^ yep they both have long career ahead ...and both are promising .....

PS : would be better to compare them after 3 - 4 years....

exactly!! I'd like to bump this thread in a couple of years and see where both have them have got to.

 

[Impala_KaifTamasha]

Shahzaib>Alam>Kholi>U.Akmal

 

[s2k]

And you do remember a certain opener who was dropped from the Nat'l team for a while after prolonged bad performances!

At that moment in time, his mental ability and temperament were being questioned...by everyone including his loyal fans too.

Akmal has just hit that part in his career where it will take some time to get back to where he before...in due time, he will

That Opener despite the bad form was avging 48-49 overall.Had still scored a triple century copuple of doubles and a few centuries.There is no comparision between them.He was dropped after the SA tour in 2006-07.You know how much he avgd with the bat in 2006.40 with 2 centuries.So he was having a bad time according to his own high standards.Umar Akmal is not scoring runs.....by anyone's standards.

Akmal has scored 1 century on his debut and has been flop since then,except the odd 50 here and there.So where was the form and when did he lost it?

next time find a better comparision.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Kohli is the next Sachin with the bat, but he's taller and better looking.

 

[MRSN]

That Opener despite the bad form was avging 48-49 overall.Had still scored a triple century copuple of doubles and a few centuries.There is no comparision between them.He was dropped after the SA tour in 2006-07.You know how much he avgd with the bat in 2006.40 with 2 centuries.So he was having a bad time according to his own high standards.Umar Akmal is not scoring runs.....by anyone's standards.

Akmal has scored 1 century on his debut and has been flop since then,except the odd 50 here and there.So where was the form and when did he lost it?

next time find a better comparision.

just one century

what about his match-winning fifties twice against NZ in UAE,twice against Sri lanka in Sri Lanka,twice against Australia in Australia,against South africa in World cup and against Australia in Semi final though we lost the match but he smashed those speed star bowlers who troubled every batsman participating in that tournament.And what about his 50s against Australia in Australia

And what about his match winning knocks against West Indies and his fifty against NZ in champions trophy semi final when our middle order collapsed.

 

[Awesome_Username]

Kohli is the next Sachin with the bat, but he's taller and better looking.

I thought Rohit Sharma was the next Sachin? Gosh, so many next Sachins!

 

[Crazy_K]

People here need to also understand that Kohli is playing in a team filled with not just experienced batsmen but simply great batsmen where as Umar doesn't have that luxury to bat with those type of batsmen. He doesn't have those experienced players to tell him what to do when he is at the crease. I do accept that at the moment Kohli is more accomplished as compared to Umar but the fact that he has the right mix of players to guide him makes it easier as compared to Umar who hasn't had those experienced players to guide him. I only know one thing that when Umar did have those class players working with him, he did wonders in NZ and in SriLanka. The point is that Pakistan hasn't realised how good Umar can be and hasn't provided him with right guidance to polish his skills. I only hope that having YK and Misbah will bring more stability to Umar's skills and help him reach the potential he is capable of. Besides, Kohli has never been put under pressure to be the main batsman like Umar was when he played in Englad and that's where it all went wrong for him.

Its amazing how quickly Pakistan fans realise the importance of having a good team around you when the discussion doesn't involve Tendulkar

On topic, you need to also look at when Kohli gets a chance, which is usually when others are injured and he has to fill in. So he has the pressure of making the most of every opportunity he gets given.

who care who is in the balance team, but look at the timing of kohli way way better than umer akmal.. umer akam is good in taking singles same like kohli but geting fours with time .. it all goes for kohli. he looks class act.. umer akmal gets his boundary just power hitting.. he is not good timer of the ball.. who can roll the ball along the ground with just pure timing..

for me kohli is way better batsman right now, who knows one year later if umer akmal start using his brain and learn timing the ball well.

Kohli's timing is supreme, even yesterday he took a while to get away, that was mainly due to poor placement, but his timing just looked spectacular through out.
Also Kohli hasn't been fed too many on his legs, which I feel is a major strength of his.

i didn't say he is better player then tendu, i said in current form or current days in odis..

LOL he didn't score in 2 ODIs and Tendulkar is out of form lol. 3 innings ago he scored 200 - he just plays the odd ODI nowadays and probably none after the WC. So it could be Kohli's time very soon.

he can play those shots, that's why he tries them...they are low percentage shots sure, but that is just him reacting to the pressure of the situation.

Isn't that a major flaw. The way he was trying those paddles against England was kinda embarassing and cringe-worthy viewing, just looked out of his depth.
A batsman needs to realise their strengths and weaknesses and make the most of them ala Suresh Raina. Doesn't have an all round strong game, but when its in his area its getting punished and he knows to hold back when it isn't.

Is this pakpassion or indiapassion, people here have been hyping kohli like next big thing. he is def not.

no one seems to have any kind of respect for Umar. thats sad. Umar is def a bright talent. I am sure he will do well.

LOL So people aren't allowed to give credit to players that are non-Pakistani?
And I believe quite a few people do believe he has it in him to be that next big thing.

ya let Kohli come in to bat everytime his team is 3-4 down for 40-60 odd on the board...than we can see how he performs...

Umar Akmal has performed outside of Pakistan...and now he's been reduced to being a finisher/slogger rather than developing him to bat at no.3 in ODIs...

huge difference b/w both...one has gotten to bat at his ideal position (Kohli) and given the opportunity to construct proper ODI innings where as other (Junior) at one point was being relied upon as the star batsman, constantly coming under pressure to bat...and now since the last 2 ODI series has been coming in to bat at no.6...

Kohli is talented no doubt but at this point a comparison b/w Umar & him is unfair due to the role our stupid management is asking Junior to play...

Kohli has been managed better and results have proven it...

Umar after a fantastic start in all forms of the game has gone backwards due to poor management!

Are you telling me there are no experienced cricketers in the Pakistani set up?
What are coaches there for?
And Kohli not coming in at no pressure situations is due to him batting at the top and making sure there is no pressure through out the innings or the batters to follow.
He has countered the pressure in another way.

kholi has had it tuff.. i read an articlw which said he lost his father when he was only 15.. was his fathers dream to see him play for india u-15 but did not get selected .. he worked hard was the captain of india u-19 in the world cup and won it for india.. he is not doing great for the national team.. has scored more than 4 centuries and is our future

I think he may have been a tad older. I know he was playing for Delhi when his father passed away. He was the only recognised batsman with his team at 50/60 - 5 chasing 450+ and his father passed away during the night, but he turned up for Delhi the next morning. We can draw our own conclusions from this, but IMO it shows unbelievable commitment to the game and his own career .... where as on the other hand we have faked injuries...

 

[s2k]

just one century

what about his match-winning fifties twice against NZ in UAE,twice against Sri lanka in Sri Lanka,twice against Australia in Australia,against South africa in World cup and against Australia in Semi final though we lost the match but he smashed those speed star bowlers who troubled every batsman participating in that tournament.And what about his 50s against Australia in Australia

And what about his match winning knocks against West Indies and his fifty against NZ in champions trophy semi final when our middle order collapsed.

We are talking odi matches here.

 

[Invictus]

It just sounds like all excuses to me. Sure, Virat has had a better environment, but he has used that environment better than others like Vijay or Sharma.

Umar does not need to play with seniors to learn that you need t play in the V. He plays all these late cuts and paddle shots, which he cannot play well. If you need someone to tell you not to play it when your not scoring many runs with it...then you need a little more than just experienced batsmen around you. Probably need a coach batting out there with you too.

And a poor excuse at that too. This Indian line-up has been there for almost a decade now. So how many batsmen did it "groom" during this time frame. There were/are plenty of batsmen with talent.

Yuvraj
Raina
Rohit
Uthapa

And plenty more. All of them are not right offs and might come back still. However it takes a level head to listen to the advice around you and implement it. So props where its due Virat is making the best use of opportunity that is being provided. To stake a claim in the Indian middle order is almost as hard as it was to stake a claim in the pakistan pace department in the 90's. So to be part of that list at the age he is at is indeed great.
As for Umar. He has the same syndrome that Imran Nazir had when he started. He worry too much about looking good/busy. I dont think Imran Nazir was any less talented but he too had that disease he wanted to look like he was dominating all the time. He didnt want to spend time on the crease to get his eye in because that looks like you are struggling. Umar has the game the issue is in the mind and no one can help him with that no matter how experienced. He has to resolve it on his own. There is plenty of advise around but he has to accept the fact that he needs it.

 

[James]

Umar Akmal is clearly a splendid player, but his form of late has been average at best, and he has rightly dropped out of the 'A' class for now. But he will be back.

Kohli, meanwhile, averages 48 after 44 ODIs, which is superb. And watching him at the crease, he appears to be some kind of future batting deity. However, he hasn't even played a test match yet!

Kind of silly to attempt to make a comparison between the two at this moment.

 

[duostyle]

Don't know about the others, but I was trying to base this comparison more on the way they both play.

Sure, we know Kohli is yet to be tested in the Test arena, but early signs regarding mostly his attitude and application on the field show that he will be a success and clearly place him quite ahead of Junior in that regard.

But I also can't ignore how good Akmal was when he came onto the scene, he seems to have lost his mind now though, doesn't look anything like the player he was (and that too in a matter of some months, a bit worrying...)

Junior a year ago was on par with Kohli, imo.

 

[Rana]

Kohli>>>Umar at the moment

 

[cricketfan2010]

i think u r not wathcing kohli's batting at all.. look at his fours just stop/place or touch bat.. and ball goes rolling with ground starting from pitch.. just the see timing of the both players.. any how i am watching kohli from last 2-3 series.. he looks at the moment better than tendu.. i know now lot of indians will come here and start burning my effigies for saying kohli looks better than tendu..

Most indian fans would be happy if he achieves 50% of What Tendulkar achieved or 70 or 80 % of what Dravid and sehwag achieved.

 

[cricketfan2010]

you cant compare slogger with pure No3 batsman. Kohli is more like ponting, kallis,etc., kind of player. Umar has played few great innings at the beginning of his career, after that he has been only slogging or trying his luck everytime he batted.

still I would say people here are hyping kohli. He is def not like Sachin or Lara kind of player. He is a smart cricketer though. He knows how to build the innings. At his young age, he has that level of maturity which is good and should be appreciated for that.

Yes totally agree.. To compare him with Tendulkar , Lara , kallis or ponting would be really unfair. Let him play for 10 years then we will see.

 

[Sakss]

kohli since he was in the u19 set up has been my fav upcoming talent....

atm way ahead of umer akmal who may have the talent, but unfortunatley is playing in a rubbish set up and ya not to forget he doesnt have a brain either..

 

[cricnut]

Maybe Umar Akaml idolized Afridi during his initial journey of Cricket.

 

[Cosmic]

Virat Kohli Is Way better then this Jnr Akmal ,,,This Guy Can Play Every Shot On Any moving Ground as well in Sub-Continet

 

[Decipher]

I mean ,,,, Just look at the determination in Kohli's eyes while he bats.... I don't think there is any batsmen in the current Pakistan squad who is as good as him in stroke execution, focus, and technique .... talk about Umar Akmal.

 

[Awesome_Username]

My turn to act all immature and go into knee-jerk mode and bump this thread, now that Kohli has failed in a single innings.

 

[talha3]

Still got more runs than Umar in his last innings.

 

[duostyle]

Virat Kohli terribly overrated!

 

[Rana]

Your allowed a bad day.

 

[*sallu*]

Kohli has performed everywhere against everyone, Umar Akmal has not

 

[Atif]

Kohli failed when it really mattered

 

[*sallu*]

It didn't matter in the last game when he made 87?

Or against Australia when he made 100 odd?

LOL, the lad has scored everytime and has to fail at some point

 

[Iqbilla]

Kohli failed when it really mattered

When pressure was on he Choked !!!! no surprises there

 

[Atif]

It didn't matter in the last game when he made 87?

Or against Australia when he made 100 odd?

LOL, the lad has scored everytime and has to fail at some point

India still lost last game

 

[Awesome_Username]

It didn't matter in the last game when he made 87?

Or against Australia when he made 100 odd?

LOL, the lad has scored everytime and has to fail at some point

Might wanna check his record in Sri Lanka.

 

[in_cutter]

Did you guys see the delivery was a ripper from Morkel?

 

[*sallu*]

Might wanna check his record in Sri Lanka.

If this is a comparison with Umar Akmal I can name England and say the same

Who has been more consistent and who has performed better?

End of story

 

[Awesome_Username]

If this is a comparison with Umar Akmal I can name England and say the same

Who has been more consistent and who has performed better?

End of story

Well, you had earlier said:

Kohli has performed everywhere against everyone, Umar Akmal has not

That is clearly not true, right?

You cannot ignore the fact that he has had the advantage of playing most of his cricket at Home, something Akmal has not been able to do.

 

[*sallu*]

Okay, I concede defeat, I know a pointless debate when I see one

I suppose the conditions are South-Africa were very "India like"

Umar Akmal, was, is and will remain Sir Vivian Richards reincarnated

 

[Awesome_Username]

Okay, I concede defeat, I know a pointless debate when I see one

I suppose the conditions are South-Africa were very "India like"

Umar Akmal, was, is and will remain Sir Vivian Richards reincarnated

Great, going down the straw-man route. There are better ways to end a debate, you know.

When exactly did I say that he has only succeeded at Home?

Anyhow, my point was not to deride Kohli, as he is the future of Indian Batting, just like Akmal is the future of Pakistan Batting, along with the likes of Shafiq etc. It was to show that there is not some giant gulf between the two which most posters have been pointing out based on watching Kohli play a couple of good knocks lately and having a quick glance at their averages.

 

[*sallu*]

Good knocks lately?

LOL, poor lad has been scoring from virtually the day he started playing for India

Yes, there is not a gulf between ability, in fact Umar Akmal might even top Kohli in terms of that.
But, the difference in mental strength is such that right now, that there is a huge gulf between the 2.

Kohli already has several 70-80+ scores in such a small career while Umar Akmal has 1 hundred and thats about it

There is no guarantee about who is the future of which country, time will tell, but as of now, Kohli is the much better bet than Umar Akmal simply because of mental strength and the ability to tough it out, which Umar Akmal has not shown signs of (not often enough)

 

[Awesome_Username]

Good knocks lately?

LOL, poor lad has been scoring from virtually the day he started playing for India

Yes, there is not a gulf between ability, in fact Umar Akmal might even top Kohli in terms of that.
But, the difference in mental strength is such that right now, that there is a huge gulf between the 2.

Kohli already has several 70-80+ scores in such a small career while Umar Akmal has 1 hundred and thats about it

There is no guarantee about who is the future of which country, time will tell, but as of now, Kohli is the much better bet than Umar Akmal simply because of mental strength and the ability to tough it out, which Umar Akmal has not shown signs of (not often enough)

He has made more of those scores, but that might also have to do with him having played around 20 more games than Junior.

His average takes a major dip if you consider only away/neutral games and take into consideration only quality opposition, something which is true by default for Akmal.

I think we should reserve judgement until a) Kohli has played much more frequently in more testing conditions, as Akmal has been forced to do as a result of Pakistan's current unfortunate situation and b) Akmal has had the chance to play at home more often.

 

[SAF]

Looked like a real "class" today..

 

[hur rizvi]

Kohli is way better than umar akmal....

 

[Riff]

Is this thread a joke?

Virat Kohli is wayyyyy ahead of Umar. Umar is mad overrated :rondu

Whats next? A comparison between Afridi and Sehwag )

 

[cricketfan2010]

Is this thread a joke?

Virat Kohli is wayyyyy ahead of Umar. Umar is mad overrated :rondu

Whats next? A comparison between Afridi and Sehwag )

+1
LOL.. thats funny.

 

[FusedBulb]

Kohli failed when it really mattered

lol as if Umar Akmal's performance is the factor behind Pakistan's every victory in the last 15 months.

 

[Rana]

Kohli is quality. Its a shame he still hasnt been given a Test match. And charwaha Umar has played so many.

 

[cricketfan2010]

Okay, I concede defeat, I know a pointless debate when I see one

I suppose the conditions are South-Africa were very "India like"

Umar Akmal, was, is and will remain Sir Vivian Richards reincarnated

Umar Akmal is 10 times the player that Viv Richards ever was. Besides he can double up as a Wicket Keeper. These comparisions are meaningless.. Mods should make a sticky to stop these useless threads proliferating.

1. U. Akmal is better then Kohli.
2. A. Razaq is better then Y. Pathan.
3. Inzy is better then Tendulkar.
4. Afridi is better then everyone.
5. No indian player is half as good as their Pakistani counterparts.

 

[acer]

Umar is clueless batsman but he has talent kohli have both.

 

[MRSN]

How come Virat kohli become better than Umer akmal

what great Virat has achieved ?

Point no.1) How many matches has Kohli played against Tough sides like SA,Aus,Eng=4 out of 48 ODIs

And he is yet to face worlds best Bowling attacks in the world ,that is England .Yep he hasn't played single match against them.

Umer akmal has played 11 ODIs against England and Australia out of his 25 games.So he has faced more tough bowling attacks in more games.

Point no.2 )) How many home games Umer got compare to Kohli=Just 3 and that too in UAE compare to Kohlis 15

Point no.3 )) Kohli has played 5 games against Minnow teams compare to Umer akmals only 1 in Asia cup.

Point no.4 )) Has Kohli played the same in big tournaments?Like Umer akmal match-winning knocks in Champions trophy against West Indies and in Semi Final against NZ?



in T20 world cup ,against South Africa in must win group game and in Semi final his brilliant batting against most dangerous bowlers of the tournament.


1>>Fifty against New Zealand in champions trophy
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2>>Match winning knock against West Indies in Champions trophy
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4>>Has Kohli scored a test century on his debut ?
debut century
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70 in 3rd test
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5>>>Umer akmal also had a successful tour of Australia
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One of his best knock under extreme pressure in Semi final against tournaments best bowlers.
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Virat Kohli has yet to do (playing in England,Aus and in big events and performing) IF Virat Kohli performs in England,Aus and in bigger events when he faces quality bowlers likes of Swann,Anderson,Johnson,Tait ,Then I am ready to accept him superior.Till then there is no way you can say he is better.he has played most of his matches on mostly flat tracks against not best quality bowlers compare to those whom Umer akmal faced.

Umer akmal

Virat Kohli

 

[cricnut]

How come Virat kohli become better than Umer akmal

what great Virat has achieved ?

Point no.1) How many matches has Kohli played against Tough sides like SA,Aus,Eng=4 out of 48 ODIs

And he is yet to face worlds best Bowling attacks in the world ,that is England .Yep he hasn't played single match against them.

Umer akmal has played 11 ODIs against England and Australia out of his 25 games.So he has faced more tough bowling attacks in more games.
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Kohli is currently the 2nd Ranked Odi Batsman in the world so no one except a few Die-hard Umar Fans would consider him to be anywhere closer to Kohli right now .

Umar is 44th on the list , make sense yaar

 

[cricketfan2010]

Virat Kohli is now 2nd on ODI rankings. It must be because of his ability to play a moving ball on bowler friendly pitches. And the funny thing is. He is not even certainity in this Indian line up.

Umar Akmal's ranking is 44. 12 behind ten douchete from Holland. Umars highest ever rating is 586.

I wonder who have been bigging this guy up? He gets dropped from even pakistan team that is light years away from likes of Inzy, Javed, and Anwar. How can someone get dropped from current pakistan team. Look at the steller names it consists of. M. Hafiz. Tafiq umar, Alam, Azhar ali.



ID Rat. Name Nat. Career Best Rating
1 889 H.M. Amla 889 v India, 23/01/2011
2 784 V. Kohli 800 v South Africa, 21/01/2011
2 784 A.B. de Villiers 823 v Pakistan, 29/10/2010
4 783 M.E.K. Hussey 865 v New Zealand, 28/01/2007
5 738 C.H. Gayle 808 v Zimbabwe, 30/11/2003
6 731 T.M. Dilshan 751 v India, 28/08/2010
7 730 M.S. Dhoni 837 v Australia, 31/10/2009
8 710 S. Chanderpaul 777 v England, 22/03/2009
9 695 K.C. Sangakkara 755 v Bangladesh, 25/02/2006
10 690 J.H. Kallis 818 v West Indies, 04/02/2004
11 689 G. Gambhir 723 v New Zealand, 04/12/2010
12 685 R.T. Ponting 831 v New Zealand, 20/12/2007
13 679 V. Sehwag 787 v New Zealand, 11/01/2003
14 671 S.R. Tendulkar 887 v Zimbabwe, 13/11/1998
15 670 A.J. Strauss 709 v Pakistan, 10/12/2005
15 670 G.C. Smith 785 v India, 25/11/2005
17 668 S.R. Watson 687 v England, 16/01/2011
18 666 J.P. Duminy 668 v India, 21/01/2011
19 662 M.J. Clarke 751 v Sri Lanka, 22/02/2008
20 657 E.J.G. Morgan 687 v Australia, 30/06/2010
21 652 Shakib Al Hasan 661 v Zimbabwe, 06/12/2010
22 639 P.D. Collingwood 700 v Australia, 03/07/2010
23 636 C.L. White 652 v India, 20/10/2010
23 636 R.L. Taylor 698 v Australia, 10/02/2009
25 627 Yuvraj Singh 787 v West Indies, 26/06/2009
26 615 Tamim Iqbal 633 v England, 28/02/2010
27 608 B.B. McCullum 666 v Pakistan, 09/11/2009
28 607 R.R. Sarwan 784 v India, 23/05/2006
29 606 S. Raina 661 v Sri Lanka, 30/05/2010
30 600 H.H. Gibbs 752 v Sri Lanka, 03/03/2003
31 598 Mohammad Yousuf 779 v Zimbabwe, 01/12/2002
32 597 R.N. ten Doeschate NET 625 v Scotland, 15/06/2010
33 592 I.J.L. Trott 592 v Pakistan, 20/09/2010
34 583 D.P.M.D. Jayawardena 742 v West Indies, 19/12/2001
34 583 Shahid Afridi 667 v India, 02/10/1997
34 583 S.B. Styris 665 v England, 28/06/2008
37 575 Shoaib Malik 687 v India, 13/02/2006
37 575 Salman Butt 688 v Sri Lanka, 21/01/2009
37 575 B.R.M. Taylor 598 v South Africa, 15/10/2010
40 573 K.P. Pietersen 842 v Australia, 08/04/2007
41 567 W.U. Tharanga 673 v New Zealand, 28/12/2006
41 567 P.R. Stirling 578 v Zimbabwe, 28/09/2010
43 556 B.J. Haddin 622 v Pakistan, 22/04/2009
44 555 Umar Akmal 586 v England, 12/09/2010

 

[AZ]

yes, according to the rankings, ten Doeschate is even better than Kevin Pietersen.

 

[Bhaijaan]

I see Umar Akmal trying to be the next Afridi and Kohli trying to be the next Sachin.

I see Umar Akmal winning the contest. Kohli will never be Sachin but will become a great of his era nonetheless but Akmal will take the madness to another level i guess

 

[cricketfan2010]

yes, according to the rankings, ten Doeschate is even better than Kevin Pietersen.

He is definitely better then Akmal. Akmal can't even hold his place in "this" pakistan eleven.

 

[cricketfan2010]

yes, according to the rankings, ten Doeschate is even better than Kevin Pietersen.

He probably is.. KP hasn't been his usual self lately. Not so long ago they were even gonna drop him from the side.

 

[Theo_14]

During the early days of Umar Akmal's career he was regarded as the next big thing for Pakistan considering the superb series he had against New Zealand & Australlia.

However rather than improving and showing his full potential on the pitch, he instead went downhill, started to under-peform and seriously lacked confidence.

And with full confidence I'd blame the PCB for treating the youngster badly and not helping his development either.

If Umar Akmal was under the leadership of BCCI then today he would have been a potentially world-class batsman, as BCCI are 10 times clever and better when it comes to developing youngsters so I guess the biggest disadvantage for Umar Akmal has to be the PCB's handling of Umar Akmal.

For example W63'''s thread "BCCI's handling of Y. Pathan v PCB's handling of Afridi" ideally backs ups my point and my point should be more clear.

 

[cricnut]

During the early days of Umar Akmal's career he was regarded as the next big thing for Pakistan considering the superb series he had against New Zealand & Australlia.

However rather than improving and showing his full potential on the pitch, he instead went downhill, started to under-peform and seriously lacked confidence.

And with full confidence I'd blame the PCB for treating the youngster badly and not helping his development either.

If Umar Akmal was under the leadership of BCCI then today he would have been a potentially world-class batsman, as BCCI are 10 times clever and better when it comes to developing youngsters so I guess the biggest disadvantage for Umar Akmal has to be the PCB's handling of Umar Akmal.




For example W63'''s thread "BCCI's handling of Y. Pathan v PCB's handling of Afridi" ideally backs ups my point and my point should be more clear.

I dont think BCCI would have even allowed a player like Afridi to feature in the National side for 14 years , so forget the question of handling him better or worse.

 

[MRSN]

Virat Kohli is very talented ,very good player but so is Umer akmal .My point is Umer has played jsut 25 games and more than half games against tough side ,facing quality bowlers compare to Virat who has played 48 and still to face WOrls best bowling side.So its too early to judge both.Give them Two year and we will see who is in top .I am not underestimating Kohli ,he is a very very talented player but give them one or two year before comparing both.

 

[Theo_14]

I dont think BCCI would have even allowed a player like Afridi to feature in the National side for 14 years , so forget the question of handling him better or worse.

I don't know about that as I was particarly talking about Umar Akmal, but when it comes to developing or handling youngsters/players in today's cricket than I'd say BCCI are BETTER than PCB with full of confidence.