Umar Akmal versus Virat Kohli

[shehzadd]

Afridi and Akmal can play only a 5 over match. I thought they r t20 overs match specialist but they prove it wrong.
Why these players again and again. We should include hammad and fawad for these both. We need batsman who can hit and should have a better defense than these 2 .

 

[musama]

somee funny comments from extreme temp people LOL... thanks for giving us something to smile.... i wonder how quickly pepole change their way of thinking and forget what they just said even last moments #vulnerable.

 

[rhussain33]

Kohli and Umar Akmal are in different leagues...

Even if Umar put his head down now, played at four and produced runs and good SR with good partnerships and fulfilled some of his talent potential, hell be very good but to compare to Kohli even then that would be not right.

Umar lacks the talent and ability that Kohli has forget the brains and temperment

 

[Romali_rotti]

he has a high standard. U akmal isn't even a batsman in his eyes. So its fair he is calling kohli as atleast batsman.

Talking Jadeja here...

 

[shehzadd]

I wish icc would have started 5 overs international matches. The players like afridi and akmal can play only that form of cricket.

 

[PennOne]

Having all the shots does not mean you are talented, Akmal's technique is nothing special, he is just a more compact version of Kamran Akmal

 

[Bhaijaan]

Having all the shots does not mean you are talented, Akmal's technique is nothing special, he is just a more compact version of Kamran Akmal

Umar Akmal doesn't have all the shots. He has a limited range.

 

[ali85]

Problem is also PCB - BCCI simply drops players if they are not performing - their selection is based on merit largely.

PCB on the other hand keeps on selecting people based on media hype, performances in last decade, relationships (*IMRAN FARHAT AND SHOAIB MALIK*).

 

[musama]

Problem is also PCB - BCCI simply drops players if they are not performing - their selection is based on merit largely.

PCB on the other hand keeps on selecting people based on media hype, performances in last decade, relationships (*IMRAN FARHAT AND SHOAIB MALIK*).

u should see india's Asia Cup squad first then conclud...

 

[Gunner85]

Akmal hits lots of ball in air where us Virat usually plays along the ground.Akmal Premeditates a lot and Virat plays based on the merit of the ball.Akmal plays with a lot of risk where as virat is a risk free stroke maker.

 

[Spiderguy252]

If U Akmal was in the Indian team , he'd have transformed into a good batsman by now.

 

[A-khan]

^yeah like rohit sharma...

 

[Pete Rose]

well....based on current form one is headed out of the team soon
while the other is now VC

 

[the Great Khan]

Having all the shots does not mean you are talented, Akmal's technique is nothing special, he is just a more compact version of Kamran Akmal

lol, he's not fit to lace kami's boots and thats saying something. the day I rate him higher than kami is the day he plays a better inning sthan that karachi 2006 innings which has to be the best innings by a pakistani keeper in a test match that i have seen. One of the best innings by a pakistani in the last decade!

Umar akmal is rubbish. He's a limited player and will not amount to much unless he learns to play cricket properly.

right now forget Kohli, id put him behind Hamaad azam!!

 

[Bhaijaan]

If U Akmal was in the Indian team , he'd have transformed into a good batsman by now.

Just like Raina, Sharma and Uthappa?

 

[SID_ZONE]

bump

Virat again shows he is the baap of all young batsmen

 

[musaarthali]

bump

Virat again shows he is the baap of all young batsmen

Do u really have to Bump this thread state the obvious

this debate will come only when Ukmal makes a 50..its now a days once in 8/10 matches

 

[Dr Khan]

Its unfair to Kohli to be compared with Akmal. Kohli is clearly class above.

 

[DOOSRA95]

Me think PPers need to take of the green spectacled off and see the reality, that a AIR head Umar akmal and Virath Kholi is way above.

 

[Runner Up]

Kohli is much better than Umar Akmal. He is scoring runs in every part of world unlike brain fart Umar Akmal

 

[IndianWillow]

virat means viraj ( the shining one, the soverign monarch). He is indeed one.

 

[Thees_Mar_Khan]

This is an embarrassing thread for Umer Akmal fans. Umer has to reborn 10 times to even come close to kohli.

 

[ares1000]

Kohli is shaping up to be an alltime great. Better then any of our players.

 

[Spiderguy252]

this is an embarrassing thread for umer akmal fans. umer has to reborn 10 times to even come close to kohli.

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[HappyH]

Lol at people comparing Kohli to junior, junior needs to improve big time just to become is qabal that people mention his name with Kohli

 

[DOOSRA95]

He kept the best innings of his carrier for Pakistani bowling line up, spank spank spank spank

 

[ares1000]

UA is crap. VK is a soon to be HOFer.

 

[A-khan]

Kohli is future All time great......if anyone can break sachin records than its him....he has been consistent since last 3 years... what a player ts off

 

[Pete Rose]

so what...can kohli play the lap-sweep-paddle-cut-shot all straight to the fielder like our junior?

 

[Amjid Javed]

Virats miles ahead of every other young batsmen in ODIs at this moment in time!

 

[in_cutter]

The best young batsman on the planet, no doubt.

 

[ElRaja]

what is the highest individual score in a successful chase?

 

[Romali_rotti]

lol Umar Akmal..

 

[Junior_Akmal]

I would say he is currently the best batsman in the world in odi's and a 100 times better match winner than Sachin and I am dead serious here. Man the way he played today's innings, he reminded me of Inzi. What a player he already is and could be. I think Sachin should learn from Kohli how to win a match and not just score hundreds. UA is not even close to Kohli. I think for the time being, we should stop comparing UA and Kohli. To be fair to UA though, he hasn't been handled properly as compared to Kohli who has really become an amazing batsman under the senior batsman. Awsome player I must say. Hands down.

 

[Wasim1]

Shouldnt this thread be changed to Umar vs Rohit?

 

[Indiafan]

I would say he is currently the best batsman in the world in odi's and a 100 times better match winner than Sachin and I am dead serious here. Man the way he played today's innings, he reminded me of Inzi. What a player he already is and could be. I think Sachin should learn from Kohli how to win a match and not just score hundreds. UA is not even close to Kohli. I think for the time being, we should stop comparing UA and Kohli. To be fair to UA though, he hasn't been handled properly as compared to Kohli who has really become an amazing batsman under the senior batsman. Awsome player I must say. Hands down.

Actually its exactly because of innings like these that Sachin created his huge fan following. Innings like the desert strom against Aussies. Kohli reminds me of the Sachin of the 90s. Unfortunately Sachin did not have players like himself or Rohit Sharma to give him company to win matches sometimes but he has played such knocks too

Anyway at this point of career, Kohli looks better than Sachin was

 

[amlafan79]

remeb this good form only came after hard work in tests
he really tightned up his game
do u guys rememb how he played out swing/seam delivery of gul and middled it ?
now thats talent!

 

[chuck]

The ease with which he hit boundaries at will - he totally bossed around the best bowling attack in the world. There is no comparison, this thread should be close.

 

[Sledger]

 

[easy_like_sunday]

Kohli has enough ability to be the best player in the world! The knock today was one of the best knocks I have ever seen. It's good umar Akmal was keeper so he can watch kohli closely and learn the way he got hold of the game. Also they should let umar Akmal bat up the order so he can learn some responsibility, it's a myth that he can't play the new ball, they only make him bat down the order to accommodate the old guard.

 

[kingusama92]

He's definitely pulled far away from Umar Akmal.

He's on a different level and I would have said that prior to today. He's simply racing along to new milestones.

What a batsman.

 

[lilFlip]

And today he has proved it.

Kohli>>U-Akmal

 

[munda_khi]

here ill do it:

Tgk: "umar ithay aa"

ua: "jee huzoor farmain"

tgk:" ais lukri di cheeze da na bala hay"

ua:" jee hazoor"

tgk:" ais laal cheeze da na gaind hay"

ua: " jee hazoor munu apnay role da ni patta sirjee"

tgk: " acha role da nee patta? Acha is cheeze nu paichanda hain?

Ua" jee hazoor ida naa juthi hay"

tgk " teray role meray juthi, run bana vurnay tera moan tay mery juthi..samaj aye hay?

Well something like that. his role is to make runs and not play stupid shots and get out. End of story, its not bloody rocket science is it? Role batao ub in nawabzadoan ko"!!!

 

[Fuzzy]

From a neutral perspective Kohli is much better.
Talent does not count for anything unless u have the performance to back it up.
Talented players will come and go but performers will stay and prosper.

 

[JibranAnsari]

Are you kidding .. akmal is far ahead and he is the best wk in the world ..take that haters

 

[kingusama92]

Are you kidding .. akmal is far ahead and he is the best wk in the world ..take that haters

It's a fun posting?

 

[mastermind_quad]

Well done Kohli ....Congrats for yet another brilliant Hundred and I hope more to follows ....
well done kid ...

I am proud of you.....

 

[JibranAnsari]

It's a fun posting?

obviously ape

 

[mastermind_quad]

Now its quite obvious that Kohli is a prize wicket for opposition ....

I am really happy about this kid.... Wow....just wow....

 

[chui_kadoo]

Kohli is on a different planet to Umar Akmal. Kohli played an absolute gem of an innings against his arch rival in a pressure cooker situation. Umar Akmal could not even dream of playing such an innings in such a situation.


Kohli is truly gifted and has a brain to go with it unlike Akmal. Simply Amazing player wheras Umar Akmal keeps getting out in the most stupid of ways. Why the hell does he keep on premeditating stupid shots such as today.

I dont understand why we are comparing Kohli to Umar Akmal. Its like comparing Inzamam to Ravidra Jadeja or Wasim Akram to Ashish Nehra. There is no comparison.

Kohli is a million times better.

 

[JAV12341]

- the innings virat kholi played against sri lanka in hobart where he tore one of the best limited overs bowlers apart in (malinga) and todays innings v pakistan are 2 of the best innings i have ever seen..... a truely amazing player... theres no comparison with akmal as kholi is streets ahead with 11 odi centuries already......

- i am a paksitan fan and i can tell everyone right now kholi is for me the best batsmen in the world right now and may go down as the best batsmen ever alongside sachin in the coming years.....he is a master in constructing a big innings in a rapid fashion, a true genius im lost for words.......

- only if paskisttan batsmen learn from this mans agrressivness and passion in how to play the game.....

 

[spaceshot]

a true genius im lost for words.......

Just get the spelling of his name right and you ll be just fine.

 

[Bhaijaan]

Umar Akmal is a gifted hitter but he would always struggle to build a normal and long inning because of the lack of game. This will sound weird but actually umar doesn't really have the full range of shots. Hafeez doesn't have the striking ability of umar but his game imo is a lot more complete. I was impressed by his batting today, played all around the ground, took a lot of singles and punished the bad balls. Looked calm and composed. A good coaching unit could really help this guy out in becoming a top performer. UA for all the hype lacks a lot of batting qualities.

 

[Ashraful_Rox]

Umar Akmal is over hyped, Kohli is a living legend.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

Umar Akmal is a gifted hitter but he would always struggle to build a normal and long inning because of the lack of game. This will sound weird but actually umar doesn't really have the full range of shots. Hafeez doesn't have the striking ability of umar but his game imo is a lot more complete. I was impressed by his batting today, played all around the ground, took a lot of singles and punished the bad balls. Looked calm and composed. A good coaching unit could really help this guy out in becoming a top performer. UA for all the hype lacks a lot of batting qualities.

I tend to agree with you, although Hafeez has technical issues of his own.

His fans always argue that he is in a bad patch of form, but I feel Hafeez will always score easy against minnows and medium level bowler and will be found out against Top bowlers.

Umar Akmal may have selected range of shots, but he can attack most bowlers of the world, because of his talent.

Though at the moment imo, Hafeez is living up to the expectations way better than U. Akmal

 

[MVP26]

Kohli might end being better than tendulker although he has to prove himself in test arena.

 

[yadunoe]

umar should be dropped for a good year, to fix his mental problems . he plays one shot too many

 

[Looney]

He is better than all Akmals put together

 

[attock]

Kohli played really well and looked at ease. He has all the qualities to become one of the best. But his celebrations are awful.......

 

[Xoib]

they were never on the same planet. One is a batting genius the other is a happy go slogger.

 

[BMW Power]

He is better than all Akmals put together

Agreed.

 

[Canistani Hero]

Not a fair comparison, one bit, quite unfortunate. Give Umer Akmal a chance at number three for 15 consecutive ODI's and then compare. Umer Akmal has been given a basher role at 5 by Misbah, which is slightly wasting his talent. He's mighty talented, he's got all the shots, but usually when he comes in, Pakistan are already in trouble having lost 3 cheap wickets early or they've done well and he just needs to hit out, doesn't get enough time to build in innings. Which is why its extremely unfair and immature to compare him to Kohli, who, is no doubt also a terrific batsman and definetly alot more mature in terms of how he builds his innings and how he takes responsibility out there. Umer for Pakistan, is still a bit of a flasher, the blue-eyed boy. :umarakmal

Make a fair comparison atleast.

 

[chuck]

Please spare us this comparison, A better one would be Umar vs Nasir Jamshed. or Umar vs Kamran (in keeping).

 

[Green Leopard]

Umar Akmal is being seriously wasted by management and Captain. He needs to come early to settle in rather slog from ball 1. The past whole year he has been coming in with 25 or less overs left, what else do you expect him to do, if not slog.

Umar Akmal needs to open or come in at no. 3.

My preference is for him to open. This kid is capable of going over the top no matter who is bowling, and the first 10 overs are the perfect platform.

 

[Dr_Bassim]

A better comparison would be Umar Akmal vs Suresh Raina....


And even here I think Raina would win cuz he comes and performs the role he is meant to do.

Slog his team to a big total.


Umar even fails to do that more often than not. ( NOTE I SAID more often than not , to all those who would say , he just performed a few days back versus Sri Lanka)

 

[PerfectionPersonified]

He's definitely pulled far away from Umar Akmal.

He's on a different level and I would have said that prior to today. He's simply racing along to new milestones.

What a batsman.

+1 , he is just too good - hardly have any brain farts unlike :umarakmal

 

[humzy]

one of umars big downfalls is the fact that he looks to hit in the air too often instead of playing orthodox cricket strokes.. he also swings across the line alot *slog*..

I cant even remember the last time umar played a decent straight drive can you? These are basics of a good batsmen

 

[Pete Rose]

one of umars big downfalls is the fact that he looks to hit in the air too often instead of playing orthodox cricket strokes.. he also swings across the line alot *slog*..

I cant even remember the last time umar played a decent straight drive can you? These are basics of a good batsmen

played a cover drive in the match against SL - its the first one I have seen him play. But even that was ugly - hit with power not timing. Looking to bash the ball rather than time it.
Brings into question the whole hypothesis on umar akmal's "talent"

 

[shortbread]

Umar Akmal has never been allowed to develop as a batsman. He finds his batting position being shuffled around and now even before he finds his footing as a batter he now has to do part time keeping as well.

If Misbah thinks anyone can keep wickets why not do it himself rather than pile the responsibility and pressure on Umar Akmal.

Regarding the shots he plays, he usually finds himself at the crease having to score at 7 odd runs an over or trying to set a score with a few overs remaining. Umar Akmal never bats selfishly, his priority is the teams cause rather than trying to make an innings for himself.

Agreed that his shot selection is pathetic but the way the team management treats him at the moment its not going to get any better.

He needs to given an opportunity to bat consistently up the order.

 

[ace4rmspace]

Virat Kohli is a potty mouthed arrogant obnoxious self-centered git ... but my goodness can this boy play! He deserves to act like a prat if he can do what he did to us yesterday.

Umar Akmal wears nice lipstick.

 

[the Great Khan]

lol...i thinkw e should now close this thread...Kohli and akmal arent even in the same league..plz do lipstick man a favour!

 

[PetroDollars]

Its quite simple, if UA was indian he would be yards ahead of Kohli and if Kohli was pakistani he wouldnt even be in the team and dumped long time ago,

THAT JUST EXPLAINS HOW TALENTED UA IS AND HOW USLESS OUR TEAM AND BOARD HAVE BECOME.

UA is by far one of the most gifted batsmen... Looking at his innings he always plays fantastic until a silly shot comes out of no where and than playing at 5/6 is not serving him any good.

 

[PetroDollars]

For UA sake, i hope whatmore can save him or he will be another gifted talented WASTED.

 

[Zulqarnain_Mohammad]

KOHLI>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AKMAL.......no comparison whatsoever

 

[Spiderguy252]

Who started these threads anyway? Can't help but have a laugh day after day.

 

[ftbno1]

Its quite simple, if UA was indian he would be yards ahead of Kohli and if Kohli was pakistani he wouldnt even be in the team and dumped long time ago,

THAT JUST EXPLAINS HOW TALENTED UA IS AND HOW USLESS OUR TEAM AND BOARD HAVE BECOME.

UA is by far one of the most gifted batsmen... Looking at his innings he always plays fantastic until a silly shot comes out of no where and than playing at 5/6 is not serving him any good.

Who says that playing at 5/6 diminishes your talent.Sachin played at that spot for initial part of his career.Dhoni has come 5/6 for most part of his career and averages 51 in ODI.

 

[786warrior]

all 3 akmals should make a rota to clean kohli's boots - that's all they're good for!

Kohli plays his heart out for his nation's pride - that's what's driving him and his team!

 

[jusarrived]

Its quite simple, if UA was indian he would be yards ahead of Kohli and if Kohli was pakistani he wouldnt even be in the team and dumped long time ago,

THAT JUST EXPLAINS HOW TALENTED UA IS AND HOW USLESS OUR TEAM AND BOARD HAVE BECOME.

UA is by far one of the most gifted batsmen... Looking at his innings he always plays fantastic until a silly shot comes out of no where and than playing at 5/6 is not serving him any good.

There is a Manoj Thiwary who according to most(including me ) is in the same league as Virats & Rohits . His last game for India he scored a 100 & hasnt played in 11 since then . Also His avg in FC is 61 . Dozen other youngsters with 50+ avg waiting for a chance . you really think there is was pressure on Virat ? unlike Akmal inspite of his constant failures Kohli would not have got a free ride in the team . Akaml is lucky he plays for pakistan

 

[MajidBhuta-AamirFan]

There is a Manoj Thiwary who according to most(including me ) is in the same league as Virats & Rohits . His last game for India he scored a 100 & hasnt played in 11 since then . Also His avg in FC is 61 . Dozen other youngsters with 50+ avg waiting for a chance . you really think there is was pressure on Virat ? unlike Akmal inspite of his constant failures Kohli would not have got a free ride in the team . Akaml is lucky he plays for pakistan

Man you have good batsmen, you need to find good bowlers, currently you don't have any good bowlers except one off spinner!

 

[jusarrived]

Man you have good batsmen, you need to find good bowlers, currently you don't have any good bowlers except one off spinner!

No one wants to be a bowler in India . Every kid wants to be a batsmen , so unlikely we will find any time soon . Hopes on Yadav & Aaron but thats too small a base to choose from .