Usman Khan barred from participation in Emirates Cricket Board events for 5 years [Update on post# 183]

[shamaan]

Babar was not the best stats wise in this tournament. Usman Khan and Iftikhar both had far better stats.

Usman Khan has not made an international debut because he chose to move to the UAE and make money playing T20 cricket. Nothing wrong with that. He played 2 FC matches and didn’t perform and probably recognize he would not be able to make it as a Teat batsmen.

Which t20 leagues has he played in whilst he moved to UAE

 

[160KPH]

Which t20 leagues has he played in whilst he moved to UAE

He’s played in a lot of leagues. The two most recent ones right before the PSL were the IL20 which is the UAE’s league and the Abu Dhabi T10. He also played in the Bangladesh Premier League before.

 

[emranabbas]

don't care about other leagues but there can be a direct comparison between Rizwan and Usman where they both played on same ground vs the same bowling attack and same conditions. sample size is enough to make a decision if usman should replace Rizwan in t20

multan sultans vs quetta
rizwan 51 off 42 balls - s/r 121
usman 14 of 7 balls - s/r 200

multan sultan vs lahore
rizwan 0 off 0 balls - s/r 0
usman 96 of 51 balls - s/r 174

multan sultans vs Karachi
rizwan 58 off 44 balls - s/r 131
usman 106* of 59 balls - s/r 179

multan sultans vs islamabad
rizwan 20 off 17 balls - s/r 117
usman 100* off 50 balls - s/r 200

multan vs quetta
rizwan 69 off 47 balls - s/r 146
usman 21 off 23 balls 0 s/r 91

multan vs peshawar
rizwan 15 off 21 balls - s/r 71
usman 36* 28 balls - 128

multan vs islamabad
rizwan 26 off 28 balls - s/r 100
usman 57 off 40 balls - s/r 142

someone who can play long innings dont see why he wouldnt be fit for tests or odis

 

[Sher Khan]

So he is now available for selection after all the tough talk about how he was mistreated and neglected and has decided that he won’t play for Pakistan?

Bohat jaldi hawa nikal gai hai.

I've heard he had some real positive discussions with the PCB who gave him assurances of him being picked in region cricket and the national team.

 

[shamaan]

He’s played in a lot of leagues. The two most recent ones right before the PSL were the IL20 which is the UAE’s league and the Abu Dhabi T10. He also played in the Bangladesh Premier League before.

He proberly would have played in atleast 2 leagues whilst in pakistan.

 

[shamaan]

don't care about other leagues but there can be a direct comparison between Rizwan and Usman where they both played on same ground vs the same bowling attack and same conditions. sample size is enough to make a decision if usman should replace Rizwan in t20

multan sultans vs quetta
rizwan 51 off 42 balls - s/r 121
usman 14 of 7 balls - s/r 200

multan sultan vs lahore
rizwan 0 off 0 balls - s/r 0
usman 96 of 51 balls - s/r 174

multan sultans vs Karachi
rizwan 58 off 44 balls - s/r 131
usman 106* of 59 balls - s/r 179

multan sultans vs islamabad
rizwan 20 off 17 balls - s/r 117
usman 100* off 50 balls - s/r 200

multan vs quetta
rizwan 69 off 47 balls - s/r 146
usman 21 off 23 balls 0 s/r 91

multan vs peshawar
rizwan 15 off 21 balls - s/r 71
usman 36* 28 balls - 128

multan vs islamabad
rizwan 26 off 28 balls - s/r 100
usman 57 off 40 balls - s/r 142

someone who can play long innings dont see why he wouldnt be fit for tests or odis

Which is his long Innings he has played.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

UAE set to lose batting star Usman Khan after his call-up to Pakistan training camp

Usman Khan has been called into Pakistan’s training squad after his remarkable display in the Pakistan Super League.

The Multan Sultans batting star was named among 29 players to undergo a fitness camp run in collaboration with the Pakistan Army in Abbottabad.

Usman had been due back in Dubai on Saturday following his stint at the PSL. The number of days he spends outside of the UAE is closely monitored as part of his previously stated desire to qualify for the UAE national team.

A player can become eligible for an adopted team after three years as resident in the new country. Usman has lived in the UAE for that duration.

However, his eligibility has been delayed by the number of days he has spent outside the country in that time, specifically when he has been in Pakistan for the PSL, and Bangladesh for that country’s T20 league.

He has risen to prominence playing in those competitions, having scored centuries in each the PSL and BPL.

His form in the most recent edition of the PSL, which concluded a week ago, brought him even greater stardom.

He scored 96, then centuries in successive matches, to power Multan Sultans into the playoffs. He then struck a half century in the final, only for his side to fall to a thrilling, last-ball defeat Islamabad United.

His run of form earned him a call-up to the training camp in Abbottabad. It does not immediately discount him from representing the UAE in future, but it now seems likely he will choose Pakistan.

Usman had previously stated that a lack of backing in Pakistan and the precarious nature of top-level cricket in the country had led him to pursue an opportunity in the Emirates instead.

He was recently granted a retainer contract by the Emirates Cricket Board for the first time, with a view to bringing him into the side as soon as he is eligible next year.

However, it is understood Usman is now increasingly keen on the prospect of playing for his country of birth, with the T20 World Cup in the US and Caribbean taking place in June.

As such, he has stayed on to take part in the training camp alongside the stars of the game in Pakistan.

According to a PCB statement, the camp is “designed to prepare the players for the upcoming series and tournaments, including the home T20I series against New Zealand, the away T20I series against Ireland and England, and the forthcoming ICC T20 World Cup in USA and West Indies”.

UAE set to lose batting star Usman Khan after his call-up to Pakistan training camp

Multan Sultans batter had been set to qualify for national team but looks likely to pick country of his birth after PSL heroics

www.thenationalnews.com

 

[Cricket Warrior]

His career is at risk now. UAE won't be happy if he joins that camp here in Kakul and it's more likely he won't get any call from them and at the same time inclusion in the Pakistan team is also not confirmed because we don't know how long this management setup will be in charge. After them will Usman get the same treatment?

at the end it will become for usman "na idher k rahay na udher k"

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

UAE should only be allowed to pick players native to UAE. I bet the USA team in the world cup will be full of Indians. It is making a mockery of the sport.

When I was saw Hong Kong field Pakistanis and Indians I knew this isn't right. Something needs to be done.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

If a country can't field atleast 9 ethnically native players then they should be not be given international status.

 

[Major]

He played at number 3 for Multan. Who would you pick in his place for Pakistan in the World Cup?

Babar Azam is already playing at no.3. While Fakhar and Rizwan have the top 2.

In the back up, Sahibzada Farhan is there, along with Mohammad Harris and even Haseebullah.

There is no need for him as he is way down in the pecking order for the upper ordder.

We need batters in the middle order and lower order.

If this guy gets selected in the middle or lower and doesnt perform, than he will find a new excuse to whine about that he was a top order player and not a middle or lower order one and thats why he didnt perform, and Pakistan ruined his chances to have a long career with UAE.

The guy is a whiner, and unless he was a lower order player, we dont need him

 

[Major]

If a country can't field atleast 9 ethnically native players then they should be not be given international status.

That would mean, Canada, USA, Australia and New Zealand cant have sports teams because they have non native white people representing them.

Whether you are brown or black or white doesnt matter. If you have nationality, or permanent residency that is enough to represent your country.

 

[JattMaula]

UAE should only be allowed to pick players native to UAE. I bet the USA team in the world cup will be full of Indians. It is making a mockery of the sport.

When I was saw Hong Kong field Pakistanis and Indians I knew this isn't right. Something needs to be done.

50+ percentage of cricketers in first 15 years of Pakistan's cricket history were born in India and not even the part that became Pakistan. They learned their cricket in various Indian teams and later migrated to play for Pakistan.

Should MCC have insisted that only kids born in Pakistani Punjab and Sindh etc be eligible to play for Pakistan?

 

[BouncerGuy]

Usman is now the passenger of 2 boats and I don't think this is good for him. He should stick to either make his way into the Pakistan team and work hard for it or just leave the whole stuff here and move to UAE where his spot is guaranteed.

 

[BouncerGuy]

As per reports:

With legal consultation from PCB, Usman Khan has issued a notice to the Emirates Cricket Board expressing his intention to end his central contract. This move signifies his aspiration to carve out his future in Pakistan cricket.

Usman Khan, who had an outstanding performance in the Pakistan Super League (PSL 9) with two centuries and a total of 430 runs, has been included in the fitness camp at Kakul by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB). His performance caught the attention of the selectors.

Usman, who debuted for Karachi Whites in 2017, moved to the UAE for better opportunities after scoring low in his first-class matches. He was selected for the UAE team and was awarded a central contract by the Emirates Cricket Board.

Last year, he played for Gulf Giants in the ILT20 League as a local player, despite holding a Pakistani passport, and received a compensation of approximately 14 million rupees.

Usman participated in the PSL as a foreign player and stayed in Pakistan after the final instead of returning to Dubai. During this time, he was in constant contact with the PCB. An influential figure from Multan Sultans played a crucial role in his affairs.

Usman has now sent a notice to the ECB to terminate his contract, which may result in restrictions on his participation in future UAE tournaments. However, he has received assurances from someone in Pakistan that he will be part of the series against New Zealand and also included in the World Cup squad.

Despite stating in a recent interview that he would not play cricket for Pakistan, the 29-year-old Usman has since changed his mind.
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[Muhammad Saad]

As per reports:

With legal consultation from PCB, Usman Khan has issued a notice to the Emirates Cricket Board expressing his intention to end his central contract. This move signifies his aspiration to carve out his future in Pakistan cricket.

Usman Khan, who had an outstanding performance in the Pakistan Super League (PSL 9) with two centuries and a total of 430 runs, has been included in the fitness camp at Kakul by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB). His performance caught the attention of the selectors.

Usman, who debuted for Karachi Whites in 2017, moved to the UAE for better opportunities after scoring low in his first-class matches. He was selected for the UAE team and was awarded a central contract by the Emirates Cricket Board.

Last year, he played for Gulf Giants in the ILT20 League as a local player, despite holding a Pakistani passport, and received a compensation of approximately 14 million rupees.

Usman participated in the PSL as a foreign player and stayed in Pakistan after the final instead of returning to Dubai. During this time, he was in constant contact with the PCB. An influential figure from Multan Sultans played a crucial role in his affairs.

Usman has now sent a notice to the ECB to terminate his contract, which may result in restrictions on his participation in future UAE tournaments. However, he has received assurances from someone in Pakistan that he will be part of the series against New Zealand and also included in the World Cup squad.

Despite stating in a recent interview that he would not play cricket for Pakistan, the 29-year-old Usman has since changed his mind.
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They didn’t provide the exact details and behind the scenes stuff , good for him though

 

[Cpt. Rishwat]

Good for him. At 29 he could have chosen the cushy option, but obviously the fire of ambition and patriotism still burns strong.

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

That would mean, Canada, USA, Australia and New Zealand cant have sports teams because they have non native white people representing them.

Whether you are brown or black or white doesnt matter. If you have nationality, or permanent residency that is enough to represent your country.

Exactly if they can't field atleast 9 ethnically native players then they should not have international status.

50+ percentage of cricketers in first 15 years of Pakistan's cricket history were born in India and not even the part that became Pakistan. They learned their cricket in various Indian teams and later migrated to play for Pakistan.

Should MCC have insisted that only kids born in Pakistani Punjab and Sindh etc be eligible to play for Pakistan?

This isn't the 1940s anymore. That was over half a century ago. Right now its UAE v Hong Kong in a world cup match and its all just Indians and Pakistanis. This is ridiculous. 1 or 2 non natives is fine but the entire squad?

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

The irony is in UAE the non natives can't even get nationality

 

[Major]

Exactly if they can't field atleast 9 ethnically native players then they should not have international status.



This isn't the 1940s anymore. That was over half a century ago. Right now its UAE v Hong Kong in a world cup match and its all just Indians and Pakistanis. This is ridiculous. 1 or 2 non natives is fine but the entire squad?

so cricket should be played between South Asian countries and England than?

No thank you. No need for such racists ideas.

I think you need to learn about nationality

 

[Major]

The irony is in UAE the non natives can't even get nationality

Dont they have residency?

 

[offstump]

I hope he makes it and doesn’t regret this decision. Settling in the UAE, no less as a Pakistani and carving out a career as a cricketer is probably what most players toiling on the domestic circle dream of.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Batter Usman Khan has been found to have breached his obligations owed to Emirates Cricket Board.

After a detailed investigation, Usman was found to have misrepresented to ECB about his decision to play for the UAE team and has used the opportunities and development provided by the ECB to him to seek out other prospects and it was evident that he was no longer wanting to play for ECB nor complete the eligibility criteria which he was under an obligation to do.

Usman participated in the ECB Sanctioned International League T20 Season 2 earlier this year in the UAE Category as a local player. The ECB also entered into an ECB Employment Contract with Usman for a period of one year. This was done to give him security and allow him to fulfil his eligibility criteria that would allow him to represent UAE in international cricket.

Usman is found to have breached his obligations owed to ECB and will therefore not be allowed to participate in ECB sanctioned tournaments/leagues as well as local events organized under the aegis of councils/academies in UAE for a period of five years.

 

[160KPH]

He shot himself in the foot, he's such a moron now.

Pcb has no reason to treat him well anymore as the ace he had up his sleeve is gone.

Stupid stupid decision, now all that's left is if he can get lucky and replace rizwan as frontline but that won't happen.

Well if he wants to play for Pakistan, he had to withdraw from his prior commitment to playing for the UAE.

It was either continue playing league cricket in the UAE and their national team in 1.5 years or to play for Pakistan and be banned from UAE league cricket.

 

[160KPH]

Batter Usman Khan has been found to have breached his obligations owed to Emirates Cricket Board.

After a detailed investigation, Usman was found to have misrepresented to ECB about his decision to play for the UAE team and has used the opportunities and development provided by the ECB to him to seek out other prospects and it was evident that he was no longer wanting to play for ECB nor complete the eligibility criteria which he was under an obligation to do.

Usman participated in the ECB Sanctioned International League T20 Season 2 earlier this year in the UAE Category as a local player. The ECB also entered into an ECB Employment Contract with Usman for a period of one year. This was done to give him security and allow him to fulfil his eligibility criteria that would allow him to represent UAE in international cricket.

Usman is found to have breached his obligations owed to ECB and will therefore not be allowed to participate in ECB sanctioned tournaments/leagues as well as local events organized under the aegis of councils/academies in UAE for a period of five years.

His big mistake was trying to move towards playing for the UAE when it’s clear now that he would much rather play for Pakistan and that he would abandon playing for the UAE if the opportunity came up.

 

[160KPH]

If he does well for Pakistan, the PCB might negotiate with the Emirates Cricket Board to get rid of the ban.

I don’t think that’s possible.

Although, if he performs well for Pakistan he will be on a much bigger platform and have the chance to catch the eye of teams from other big leagues. He’s already played for many many league, the UAE league was the best paying but it’s just one of many that he plays for.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Batter Usman Khan has been found to have breached his obligations owed to Emirates Cricket Board.

After a detailed investigation, Usman was found to have misrepresented to ECB about his decision to play for the UAE team and has used the opportunities and development provided by the ECB to him to seek out other prospects and it was evident that he was no longer wanting to play for ECB nor complete the eligibility criteria which he was under an obligation to do.

Usman participated in the ECB Sanctioned International League T20 Season 2 earlier this year in the UAE Category as a local player. The ECB also entered into an ECB Employment Contract with Usman for a period of one year. This was done to give him security and allow him to fulfil his eligibility criteria that would allow him to represent UAE in international cricket.

Usman is found to have breached his obligations owed to ECB and will therefore not be allowed to participate in ECB sanctioned tournaments/leagues as well as local events organized under the aegis of councils/academies in UAE for a period of five years.

Poor chap, now to play for PCB is just a hobson's choice for him.

 

[Savak]

He was told by the ECB that he had to wait for another 1.5 years before he could be considered for the UAE team. He gambled that he could not afford to let his demand with the PCB go to waste.

 

[RidiculousMan]

Poor chap now to play for PCB is just a hobson's choice for him.

Even if he gets selected, there's no guarantee he will play.

Even if he plays, there's no guarantee he will get enough opportunities.

Even if he get enough opportunities, there's no guarantees he will perform.

Even if he performs, there's no guarantee that the new selection committee to come will select him.

 

[The Bald Eagle]

Even if he gets selected, there's no guarantee he will play.

Even if he plays, there's no guarantee he will get enough opportunities.

Even if he get enough opportunities, there's no guarantees he will perform.

Even if he performs, there's no guarantee that the new selection committee to come will select him.

He has played a big gamble here.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

I mean this was pretty much expected. Let's hope for his sake that he has made the right decision.

On one hand, I respect him for taking the tough decision. At his age, there's no guarantee that he will have a successful career for Pakistan. And if he can't handle the pressure he's going to be discarded just as quickly as the others before him.

On the other hand, he could very well have let a golden opportunity slip through his fingers. One that would have provided him with financial stability and a way to potentially make alot more money than he would representing Pakistan.

I mean a UAE work visa is basically every Pakistani's dream.

Interested to see how he performs on the international level for Pakistan. I think he a very good hitter of spin but I'm not convinced about him just yet.

 

[Major]

Stupid statement by UAE cricket. Your country makes people work till death and yet you dont offer Nationality. UAE can take this ban and shove it up where it belongs.

These arab countries are terrible. They fed on our players and when they are taking our players they have no issue with that. The moment a player decides he doesnt want to join these dictators they than show there true colors.

Funny how they want a person to represent them at national level but they wont give him nationality.

 

[mominsaigol]

Stupid statement by UAE cricket. Your country makes people work till death and yet you dont offer Nationality. UAE can take this ban and shove it up where it belongs.

These arab countries are terrible. They fed on our players and when they are taking our players they have no issue with that. The moment a player decides he doesnt want to join these dictators they than show there true colors.

Funny how they want a person to represent them at national level but they wont give him nationality.

They offer you nationality if you live in the country for 30 years, and from their if your children are born, they get automatic rights as well.

Nor do they make their people work till death, some of my friends have worked their.

Work culture is balanced lol, as for nationality, they don't give it but are relaxed on permanent work visas because the country isn't desperate for immigrants, they want proof you're committed to permanently staying in the country and not shifting 24/7.

I kinda like the system, here in Australia you literally get pr after working 1 year and 4 years later a permanent passport. Way too easy to get it here compared to uae.

 

[Pakpak]

Poor intelligence, better players than him never get another chance in Pakistan's system. What a supid choice to rely on this and let go of financial stability.

 

[Nasty Naz]

Batter Usman Khan has been found to have breached his obligations owed to Emirates Cricket Board.

After a detailed investigation, Usman was found to have misrepresented to ECB about his decision to play for the UAE team and has used the opportunities and development provided by the ECB to him to seek out other prospects and it was evident that he was no longer wanting to play for ECB nor complete the eligibility criteria which he was under an obligation to do.

Usman participated in the ECB Sanctioned International League T20 Season 2 earlier this year in the UAE Category as a local player. The ECB also entered into an ECB Employment Contract with Usman for a period of one year. This was done to give him security and allow him to fulfil his eligibility criteria that would allow him to represent UAE in international cricket.

Usman is found to have breached his obligations owed to ECB and will therefore not be allowed to participate in ECB sanctioned tournaments/leagues as well as local events organized under the aegis of councils/academies in UAE for a period of five years.

Real unfortunate for the kid and I hope he doesn't get tossed aside by PCB because there's not much options left. The danger part is him having 2-3 bad performances, getting discarded only to be lost and miss out on a decent career with UAE & plenty of earnings. The better financial option was sticking with UAE but I hope he has success with Pakistan and really carves out a long-term spot on the team.

 

[W63L35]

Why this logic (PCB treating highly talented players unfairly) in the OP should not be applied to all talented players such as Haris, Saim, etc and ask/suggest them to move to other countries where any other cricket board will treat them better than PCB?

Point is that if Usman Khan is treated unfairly then he won't be the last one to be treated unfairly. PCB has destroyed many careers in the past. Did Haris decide to leave Pakistan because PCB refused NOC for him to play in BPL? If all other young and talented players are taking a risk on being dropped unfairly by staying in Pakistan then why Usman Khan shouldn't?

Players (or any entertainer) perform for fame/recognition in addtion to wealth. Yes, there is a risk involved in playing for pakistan but imagine the recognition and wealth if he succeeds. How many people knew him before he performed in PSL? In comparison .... if he plays for UAE and shines, he will alway be called ... "Andhun mei kana raja". Now, if was picked by a full member (like Imran Tahir for South Africa), I would have asked him to leave instantly.

This is exactly what I thought Usman would be thinking when he accepted PCB offer... he knew vey well the consequences from UAE Cricket Board. Basically he trusted he own ability to perform for Pakistan.... over falling into the safety net offered by ECB. I hope and pray, he succeeds. I am very optomicts that he will.... I also hope and pray.



"Speaking to ESPNcricinfo after his call-up, Usman believed he had not breached any contract, contesting that his contract included an exit clause with a 30-day notice period. He was resigned to whatever sanction the ECB levied, and said the allure of playing for Pakistan when the PCB came calling after the PSL was too enticing to turn down."

 

[kingusama92]

He made a ridiculous decision logically.

Trusting management that changes every other month for a spot you’re not even the first option for is insane.

Seems like his passion was to play for Pakistan and the rest doesn’t matter to him.

 

[W63L35]

Poor intelligence, better players than him never get another chance in Pakistan's system. What a supid choice to rely on this and let go of financial stability.

Fortune favors the brave ...and some people say there is very thin line between stupid and brave. In this case, he trusted his own ability to perform well enough to stay in Pakistan team. I hope and pray that he succeeds for Pakistan. I have a very high respect for the guy!

 

[JaDed]

Fortune favors the brave ...and some people say there is very thin line between stupid and brave. In this case, he trusted his own ability to perform well enough to stay in Pakistan team. I hope and pray that he succeeds for Pakistan. I have a very high respect for the guy!

No one is doubting his intentions but he is trying to play for the probably among 3 worst bosses in cricket who unfortunately represent the country.

 

[Savak]

Stupid statement by UAE cricket. Your country makes people work till death and yet you dont offer Nationality. UAE can take this ban and shove it up where it belongs.

These arab countries are terrible. They fed on our players and when they are taking our players they have no issue with that. The moment a player decides he doesnt want to join these dictators they than show there true colors.

Funny how they want a person to represent them at national level but they wont give him nationality.

He actually flew to the UAE during the PSL to talk to the ECB officials, the PCB had approached him to play for Pakistan during the PSL and the ECB told Usman he would need to live and play in the UAE for 2 more years before they could consider him for the UAE team.

Playing for the UAE team is not really an attractive option. He didn't want to let go of the chance to play for Pakistan. Misbah at the age of 32 was only making Rs 20k a month in cricket and he told his family if his cricket career doesn't take off in the next year, he will give up the game for good. He never looked back and is now set for life based on his career from 2007 to 2017. No reason Usman Khan cannot have the same kind of resurgence.

 

[Major]

They offer you nationality if you live in the country for 30 years, and from their if your children are born, they get automatic rights as well.

Nor do they make their people work till death, some of my friends have worked their.

Work culture is balanced lol, as for nationality, they don't give it but are relaxed on permanent work visas because the country isn't desperate for immigrants, they want proof you're committed to permanently staying in the country and not shifting 24/7.

I kinda like the system, here in Australia you literally get pr after working 1 year and 4 years later a permanent passport. Way too easy to get it here compared to uae.

30 years doesnt apply on anyone, its very rare.

Second, 30 years is too much, you are literally being asked to work to death and than given nationality.

Alot of the working class lives in terrible conditions there, they do make people work till death.

Australia and Canada have great systems where they give you nationality within 3-5 years.

Thing is, UAE wants people from the outside to work for them but in return they dont want to give nationality, they have a very racists policy especially if you are non arab. This is why, the statement they gave about Usman Khan is pathetic. Like you expect him to play for you while you cant even be bothered to give him nationality. No Thank you

Anyone who defends these nations have slave mentality.

 

[Major]

He actually flew to the UAE during the PSL to talk to the ECB officials, the PCB had approached him to play for Pakistan during the PSL and the ECB told Usman he would need to live and play in the UAE for 2 more years before they could consider him for the UAE team.

Playing for the UAE team is not really an attractive option. He didn't want to let go of the chance to play for Pakistan. Misbah at the age of 32 was only making Rs 20k a month in cricket and he told his family if his cricket career doesn't take off in the next year, he will give up the game for good. He never looked back and is now set for life based on his career from 2007 to 2017. No reason Usman Khan cannot have the same kind of resurgence.

If it was Canada, USA or UK, than running off to those countries would had made sense because atleast you get nationality.

These Arab countries are not worth it. Its ok if they steal players, but the moment you say NO to them, these jerks issue bans? Usman should contest this ban. Its illegal .

You dont want to give nationality but what outsiders to represent you.

 

[DeadlyVenom]

He's a brave lad.

You only get one shot at the big time.

And Usman Khan is grabbing his with hands.

May Allah give him success.

 

[Major]

He made a ridiculous decision logically.

Trusting management that changes every other month for a spot you’re not even the first option for is insane.

Seems like his passion was to play for Pakistan and the rest doesn’t matter to him.

I agree with what you have said, but the issue is, the board that would had given him his debut doesnt want him to be there national. The problem is with the policies of UAE how they want to use people but not give them nationality. Permanent Residency means nothing.

Had it been some other country(that gives nationality in 3-5 years) than it would had made sense sticking playing for them.

All Usman Khan needs is one match debut, thats it. Once he gets one international match, he will get the tag and that will mean if his career doesnt turn out to be good, he can have coaching contracts in future. The international tag matters alot in the cricket circles

 

[DeadlyVenom]

The thing is Usman is unlike most people here who have given up and toe the status quo also known as being jobbers. He has a dream, he has the talent. And he is willing to risk all to represent the national flag. Instead of bringing him down by telling him how big of a mistake he is making, i would propose backing him to the max, being his voice so he can ensure he gets a chance and breaks the status quo.

Life is not just all about money, its about pride and Self fulfilment too.

Bilkul.

He is the underdog with a chance to make it to the top.

Just imagine his family and loved ones emotions when they see him play for Pakistan.

He really fought his way into the side and you are right, deserves our backing instead of some the vitriol like 'moron' being directed at him.

 

[Saj]

This could go horribly wrong for Usman and he could be left in no-man's land.

You can never rely on PCB and I'm surprised he has made this decison.

 

[mominsaigol]

30 years doesnt apply on anyone, its very rare.

Second, 30 years is too much, you are literally being asked to work to death and than given nationality.

Alot of the working class lives in terrible conditions there, they do make people work till death.

Australia and Canada have great systems where they give you nationality within 3-5 years.

Thing is, UAE wants people from the outside to work for them but in return they dont want to give nationality, they have a very racists policy especially if you are non arab. This is why, the statement they gave about Usman Khan is pathetic. Like you expect him to play for you while you cant even be bothered to give him nationality. No Thank you

Anyone who defends these nations have slave mentality.

I agree with 30 years being too much, that part I agree on.

As for Canada, Canada is even easier to settle in then Australia lol, Australia has a requirement on what type of jobs, as they want specific skilled workers with proper educational backgrounds and not some low life dude who has worked as a taxi driver lol.

But Canada is even more chill, just get any job and automatic sponsor and you get residency in a year and in 3 years after you get a passport.

But for UAE, they offer golden visa's which basically means you can live in uae as long as you want whether you're employed or unemployed but it still doesn't give you a passport and they still hate you and will cancel the visa if you're out of the country too long or if you take a job outside the country even if its online work.

They cancelled usman khan's golden visa as well since he is working for pcb now( kinda)

 

[mominsaigol]

@Major

Actually never mind, scratch what I just said.

I agree with you on the UAE part. I change my mind.

 

[Nikhil_cric]

Maybe not the smartest business decision. But he clearly is passionate about playing for PAK. Gotta respect that.

 

[Sher Khan]

30 years doesnt apply on anyone, its very rare.

Second, 30 years is too much, you are literally being asked to work to death and than given nationality.

Alot of the working class lives in terrible conditions there, they do make people work till death.

Australia and Canada have great systems where they give you nationality within 3-5 years.

Thing is, UAE wants people from the outside to work for them but in return they dont want to give nationality, they have a very racists policy especially if you are non arab. This is why, the statement they gave about Usman Khan is pathetic. Like you expect him to play for you while you cant even be bothered to give him nationality. No Thank you

Anyone who defends these nations have slave mentality.

I have a friend whose family lived for a decade in the UAE. But then suddenly the father lost his job and the UAE told him to get the hell out of the country within 2 months.

It really is terrible.

 

[Slim]

I have a friend whose family lived for a decade in the UAE. But then suddenly the father lost his job and the UAE told him to get the hell out of the country within 2 months.

It really is terrible.

They have to be ruthless otherwise it will be like UK and now Canada (unfortunately).

 

[Flat_Track_Bully]

30 years doesnt apply on anyone, its very rare.

Second, 30 years is too much, you are literally being asked to work to death and than given nationality.

Alot of the working class lives in terrible conditions there, they do make people work till death.

Australia and Canada have great systems where they give you nationality within 3-5 years.

Thing is, UAE wants people from the outside to work for them but in return they dont want to give nationality, they have a very racists policy especially if you are non arab. This is why, the statement they gave about Usman Khan is pathetic. Like you expect him to play for you while you cant even be bothered to give him nationality. No Thank you

Anyone who defends these nations have slave mentality.

The decision Usman made is that of a patriot. I respect this. He has burned his bridges for Pakistan. Give him an extended run in the team for this, he deserved it.

 

[ExpressPacer]

I mean this was pretty much expected. Let's hope for his sake that he has made the right decision.

On one hand, I respect him for taking the tough decision. At his age, there's no guarantee that he will have a successful career for Pakistan. And if he can't handle the pressure he's going to be discarded just as quickly as the others before him.

On the other hand, he could very well have let a golden opportunity slip through his fingers. One that would have provided him with financial stability and a way to potentially make alot more money than he would representing Pakistan.

I mean a UAE work visa is basically every Pakistani's dream.

Interested to see how he performs on the international level for Pakistan. I think he a very good hitter of spin but I'm not convinced about him just yet.

In what world could he make more as an international player for the UAE than he would as a Pakistani international player?

You think the likes of unknown Muhammad Waseem is making more money captaining UAE than Rizwan, Shaheen, Babar, Shadab? Or even fringe players like Usama Mir, Usman Qadir?

The brand that you become as a Pakistani player enables you to play in leagues around the world, brand ambassadorships in Pakistan, commentary gigs and even a secure future post-retirement through being hired as analysts, coaches etc. Most of all, PCB employees have other benefits as they are public servants (at least they used to be).
. Playing for Pakistan, an elite cricketing nation, is a privilege. Not a “shot yourself the foot”.

 

[ExpressPacer]

The decision Usman made is that of a patriot. He has burned his bridges for Pakistan. Give him an extended run in the team for this, he deserved it.

Better to live a day as a patriot than a lifetime of as an outsider wearing a jersey of a country you can't even become a national of.

He deserves as much of a chance as anyone else. Playing for Pakistan is a privilege and not his birthright. He is not making any “patriotic” decisions and it is rich of you to assume this. He made the decision because it made the most financial sense. Maybe it is a small gamble for a big reward.

 

[RyanRyan10]

Isn't it difficult to get us residency or visa issues?

I don't really know much about their cricket criteria tbh

Indian/Pakistani domestic rejects and some lower tier domestic players have migrated to the US. So he shouldn't find difficulty in getting a place in their system.

 

[RedwoodOriginal]

In what world could he make more as an international player for the UAE than he would as a Pakistani international player?

You think the likes of unknown Muhammad Waseem is making more money captaining UAE than Rizwan, Shaheen, Babar, Shadab? Or even fringe players like Usama Mir, Usman Qadir?

The brand that you become as a Pakistani player enables you to play in leagues around the world, brand ambassadorships in Pakistan, commentary gigs and even a secure future post-retirement through being hired as analysts, coaches etc. Most of all, PCB employees have other benefits as they are public servants (at least they used to be).
. Playing for Pakistan, an elite cricketing nation, is a privilege. Not a “shot yourself the foot”.

You seem to have deluded yourself into thinking that Usman Khan is comparable to our top players. He is 30 and had one really good PSL season. Settle down.

And yeah, he probably could make more than our fringe players if he was a great associate level cricketer, which is far easier for him to become than a great Pakistani cricketer. Who's to even say he will be in the playing eleven right now? And what happens if he fails a few times and gets discarded? As a UAE cricketer he would not only be earning a stable paycheck while living in an economically stable country. He would probably be able to play far more T20 leagues as well as opposed to the 3 he would be allowed to play as a Pakistani cricketer...and earn more money.

Oh and he just got banned from playing in 2 leagues. So I'm sure he will have plenty of places to play when Pakistan drops him from the national team.

 

[Cricket Warrior]

Well it's a bit surprising for me that he also got banned from playing in the Emirates leagues. I can understand banning him from the national UAE team or any domestic tournament but this ban where international players also play seems excessive to me.

 

[ExpressPacer]

You seem to have deluded yourself into thinking that Usman Khan is comparable to our top players. He is 30 and had one really good PSL season. Settle down.

And yeah, he probably could make more than our fringe players if he was a great associate level cricketer, which is far easier for him to become than a great Pakistani cricketer. Who's to even say he will be in the playing eleven right now? And what happens if he fails a few times and gets discarded? As a UAE cricketer he would not only be earning a stable paycheck while living in an economically stable country. He would probably be able to play far more T20 leagues as well as opposed to the 3 he would be allowed to play as a Pakistani cricketer...and earn more money.

Oh and he just got banned from playing in 2 leagues. So I'm sure he will have plenty of places to play when Pakistan drops him from the national team.

The only one deluded here is you. As I said above, even our fringe players have an excellent lifestyle and superb brand deals - just look at Usama Mir who does not come from wealth and is not settled in the team either.

Moreover, your ignorance of life in Pakistan is evident from your comment. As anyone living in Pakistan would tell you, contracted cricketers by the PCB are paid extremely well by Pakistani standards and the money they get goes a long way in Pakistan. If you genuinely think that being a UAE cricketer affords you such a great lifestyle, please tell me why Waseem, the UAE captain, seems to be living like any other middle class Joe in the Gulf?

The fact of the matter is that being a cricketer, even at the stage Usman is already at, makes you a celebrity in Pakistan and propels you the upper echelons of society.

 

[160KPH]

Well it's a bit surprising for me that he also got banned from playing in the Emirates leagues. I can understand banning him from the national UAE team or any domestic tournament but this ban where international players also play seems excessive to me.

He was playing as a local player in the UAE league while he awaited the residency requirement’s completion to play for the UAE national team.

I’m pretty sure part of the reason he was playing as a local player was the understanding that he was committing towards playing for the UAE.

 

[ExpressPacer]

You're obviously wrong because you are not taking into account the economic instability as well as a plethora of other issues that people living here have to encounter, as opposed to a country like UAE which is far more economically stable and offers people a higher standard of living.

You also seem to forget that of the amount of players on Pakistan's domestic circuit, only a fraction have central contracts.

And using one example of a player who only just started doing well enough to be in contention for other T20 leagues doesn't really help your hollow argument.



This is quite laughable. You seem somewhat disconnected with reality. Do you live in Pakistan?

As a matter of fact, I do. Do you? Because you have no idea how popular Usman Khan already is thanks to the PSL.

 

[mominsaigol]

As a matter of fact, I do. Do you? Because you have no idea how popular Usman Khan already is thanks to the PSL.

I think claiming UK is in the upper echelons of pur society is a bit too far but he defo is popular in Pakistan thanks to PSL.

He's a mini celebrity though, not a proper celebrity like babar or momina mustesin etc

 

[W63L35]

This could go horribly wrong for Usman and he could be left in no-man's land.

You can never rely on PCB and I'm surprised he has made this decison.

How?
Why could he not continue to play in the leagues outside UAE (e.g WI, BD, AUS, SL ENG etc) even if PCB never selects him for Pak team after NZ series?

 

[Asad T]

How?
Why could he not continue to play in the leagues outside UAE (e.g WI, BD, AUS, SL ENG etc) even if PCB never selects him for Pak team after NZ series?

He can, but there is no guarantee that he will get admission into those other leagues. On top of that, the PCB does not easily give out NOC's for its players to play in other leagues.

T10 & UAE ILT20 pay really well too (better than those other leagues), so it will be a huge financial loss for him. And if he was a UAE player it would have been easy for him to be selected in those leagues

 

[Deewana Mastana]

He's burned his bridges...there's no way back now!

 

[offstump]

He’s an adult and made his decision. It’s not like he’s an 18 year old teenager who has been misguided. Inshallah it works out for him, but competition for the Pakistan team is fierce, plus you have to deal with selection bias and other things. Does Usman have a family, kids etc?

 

[gazza619]

Who the heck UAE board think they are, lol. A team that is a level below a minnow team.

Correct decision from Usman. He would have had to wait 2 more years to get qualified for UAE, and even then there was no guarantee they would have selected him. On the other hand Usman will defo get a few games against NZ, and considering his form I would back him to play at least one decent knock.

One decent knock is all you need to guarantee your spot in the Pakistan squad for the next 6-12 months. He would make enough money anyway from PSL and any other leagues.

 

[W63L35]

Who the heck UAE board think they are, lol. A team that is a level below a minnow team.

Correct decision from Usman. He would have had to wait 2 more years to get qualified for UAE, and even then there was no guarantee they would have selected him. On the other hand Usman will defo get a few games against NZ, and considering his form I would back him to play at least one decent knock.

One decent knock is all you need to guarantee your spot in the Pakistan squad for the next 6-12 months. He would make enough money anyway from PSL and any other leagues.

Vey well put.....

I am "wait for UAE for another 2 years" or "almost gauranted series vs NZ and possibly Eng and WC also - at the minimum".
No brainer!

 

[160KPH]

How?
Why could he not continue to play in the leagues outside UAE (e.g WI, BD, AUS, SL ENG etc) even if PCB never selects him for Pak team after NZ series?

I agree, he’s living out the dream. He didn’t choose to grind it out in domestic cricket, List A, and FC to get selected. Instead he went to UAE, made good money playing in leagues all around the world, and now he got fast tracked into the Pakistan international team off of PSL performances.

Yes he can’t play in the UAE league anymore, but he can still play all of the other leagues he’s played and he’s worth a lot in PSL now. I do not think he’s yet signed a central contract either so it’s not like the PCB can hold the NOC over his head.

He should not get special treatment in selection now, but he should of course get some opportunities in T20 after the great PSL performances he had.

 

[W63L35]

He's burned his bridges...there's no way back now!

Let's not forget the bridge he has just built that leads to Pakistan cricket team.

 

[Deewana Mastana]

Let's not forget the bridge he has just built that leads to Pakistan cricket team.

Well we'll have to wait and see how long that bridge lasts.

 

[shaz619]

The Emirates Cricket Board sounds like a jealous ex-girlfriend.

 

[W63L35]

I agree, he’s living out the dream. He didn’t choose to grind it out in domestic cricket, List A, and FC to get selected. Instead he went to UAE, made good money playing in leagues all around the world, and now he got fast tracked into the Pakistan international team off of PSL performances.

Yes he can’t play in the UAE league anymore, but he can still play all of the other leagues he’s played and he’s worth a lot in PSL now. I do not think he’s yet signed a central contract either so it’s not like the PCB can hold the NOC over his head.

He should not get special treatment in selection now, but he should of course get some opportunities in T20 after the great PSL performances he had.

Agree with your post - but I would to clarify the highlighted comment.

The highlighted comment is ... a criticism of Usman or ??

If this is a criticism then please know the history of many top top top international cricket stars who retired early from test/ODI/T20I cricket to just play for leagues like IPL for many years after the retirement. DeKock being the lates example. One of the highest scorers in recent WC, retires way early to keep playing the leagues.

So what's wrong if Usman "fast tracked" himself into league cricket by skipping FC and List A cricket because this is the present/future of the cricket?

 

[W63L35]

Well we'll have to wait and see how long that bridge lasts.

Well, that is the basis of the debate in this thread.....

Fans who believe in his ability to build the bridges that lead to UAE Cricket board..
vs
Fans who believe in his ability to build the bridge that leads to Pak cricket team.

Interestingly the common factor in both cases is that .... Usman trusted his own abilites.

 

[FearlessRoar]

While interacting with local media reporters, PCB Chairman Mohsin Naqvi, upon being questioned regarding the selection of Usman Khan:

"He [Usman Khan] is absolutely eligible and I think his name is to be considered. The selection committee has informed me that they will announce the team [for the New Zealand T20I Tour of Pakistan] in the morning of April 9th during the press conference."

 

[Shoaib Akhtar 100 MPH]

I think its admirable that Usman khan wants to play for his country but realistically he s got a limited chance with the likes of Saim, Babar, Fakhar, Riz, M Harris etc all vying for top order spots.

He should of stuck with the UAE and made a career for himself.

 

[160KPH]

Agree with your post - but I would to clarify the highlighted comment.

The highlighted comment is ... a criticism of Usman or ??

If this is a criticism then please know the history of many top top top international cricket stars who retired early from test/ODI/T20I cricket to just play for leagues like IPL for many years after the retirement. DeKock being the lates example. One of the highest scorers in recent WC, retires way early to keep playing the leagues.

So what's wrong if Usman "fast tracked" himself into league cricket by skipping FC and List A cricket because this is the present/future of the cricket?

Not criticism, just stating that it seems everything worked out pretty well for Usman Khan in the end.

He made good money playing leagues and now he has the opportunity to play international cricket for his preferred team. And he can still continue to play other leagues to make money.

 

[Savak]

Hopefully Usman's gamble and risk will pay off

 

[gazza619]

I think Usman should sue the Arab cricket board.

 

[160KPH]

I think Usman should sue the Arab cricket board.

Usman Khan violated his contract and commitments. He was playing as a local player in the league with the expectancy that he would soon qualify for the international team and compete to play for the UAE team.

What would he sue the UAE board based upon?

 

[gazza619]

Usman Khan violated his contract and commitments. He was playing as a local player in the league with the expectancy that he would soon qualify for the international team and compete to play for the UAE team.

What would he sue the UAE board based upon?

Well I would interested to see what terms he violated. Usman changed his mind, we all do in our professional lives. For him to be banned for 5 years is a breach of his human right. Its not as if he was caught fixing.