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Another of the new three-dimensional Pakistani cricketers.

More than useful with the bat, someone who can score quickly and is more than handy coming in at number 7 or 8.

A bowler who has the ability to take wickets and bowl at a very good pace. A very useful 4th seamer in pace-friendly bowling conditions.

Someone who is a very good fielder and also a good catcher.

It seems like a very long time since Pakistan had such a cricketer in their line-up?
 
Lets hope he develops into a World class AR. His bowling is improving all the time, batting shows glimpses of talent but the challenge is to become consistent at this level.
 
He will be a star in the LOI teams. Let’s see how he develops in tests.
 
He bowls a really nice line and has this natural angle of coming into the batsman.

The only issue is, he can neither seam nor swing the ball. Wish Azhar could work on that somehow.
 
PakSarZameen said:
He bowls a really nice line and has this natural angle of coming into the batsman.

The only issue is, he can neither seam nor swing the ball. Wish Azhar could work on that somehow.
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You missed Bairstow's dismissal in the first innings of the last test.
 
He’s not an allrounder, definitely not for tests, nor do a he look like someone who could be.

When you look at Shadab you see a guy who has that potential, but I just don’t see it with Faheem.

His batting is decent but nothing more. His bowling is the big issue. It just seems very innocuous. People get out to him, he doesn’t get people out. I can’t ever see him bowling a hostile spell or getting a 5er.

Also he appears to have no control over swing and seam. If he works on that maybe we can have an effective player. Otherwise he is bits and pieces

I was gonna say he could be effective for us for a while, a bit like our Tim Bresnan. However I find it hard to see Faheem matching Bresnan with the ball

He isn’t really to blame for what happened today, and I hope he proves me wrong, but even Pak standards we are going overboard with the hype.
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
He’s not an allrounder, definitely not for tests, nor do a he look like someone who could be.

When you look at Shadab you see a guy who has that potential, but I just don’t see it with Faheem.

His batting is decent but nothing more. His bowling is the big issue. It just seems very innocuous. People get out to him, he doesn’t get people out. I can’t ever see him bowling a hostile spell or getting a 5er.

Also he appears to have no control over swing and seam. If he works on that maybe we can have an effective player. Otherwise he is bits and pieces

I was gonna say he could be effective for us for a while, a bit like our Tim Bresnan. However I find it hard to see Faheem matching Bresnan with the ball

He isn’t really to blame for what happened today, and I hope he proves me wrong, but even Pak standards we are going overboard with the hype.
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Faheem is a good LOI bowler and has the ability to pick up key wickets like in the NZ series where he really troubled Kane. We’ve seen him crank it up to 140k+ too.

I agree though in tests he does lack a bit of penetration but his role isn’t to be a strike bowler. He’s there to bowl tight supporting overs and allow the others to rest. If he picks up a wicket or two that’s a bonus.
 
babajee said:
Faheem is a good LOI bowler and has the ability to pick up key wickets like in the NZ series where he really troubled Kane. We’ve seen him crank it up to 140k+ too.

I agree though in tests he does lack a bit of penetration but his role isn’t to be a strike bowler. He’s there to bowl tight supporting overs and allow the others to rest. If he picks up a wicket or two that’s a bonus.
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Bhai, cranking it up to 140 and troubling Kane is not a qualification. Sami and Riaz cranked it up to above 155 and todubled plenty of batsmen, didn’t change the fact they were crap overall. Odis is a seperate discussion and despite my scepticism, Faheem should get a long rope.

In tests though you can’t have bits and pieces players. The description you have of Faheems responsibilities in tests is basically that same as Haris Sohail’s as a bowler. The way it looks now, Faheem is a bowler who will average in the 40s and a batsmen that will average in mid 20s - low 30s. That is bits and pieces.

I’m not saying he needs to be a strike bowler, but he should be at least capable of incisive spells. Can you honestly say that Faheem can be as effective with the ball in tests as say Watson or Stokes?
 
pakistanigoneaussie said:
Bhai, cranking it up to 140 and troubling Kane is not a qualification. Sami and Riaz cranked it up to above 155 and todubled plenty of batsmen, didn’t change the fact they were crap overall. Odis is a seperate discussion and despite my scepticism, Faheem should get a long rope.

In tests though you can’t have bits and pieces players. The description you have of Faheems responsibilities in tests is basically that same as Haris Sohail’s as a bowler. The way it looks now, Faheem is a bowler who will average in the 40s and a batsmen that will average in mid 20s - low 30s. That is bits and pieces.

I’m not saying he needs to be a strike bowler, but he should be at least capable of incisive spells. Can you honestly say that Faheem can be as effective with the ball in tests as say Watson or Stokes?
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Wahab and Sami are brainless bowlers. Faheem has some intelligence imo.

Well he’s only been improving since he’s been in the setup for the last year or so. As his fitness improves as well I think he will be able to bowl incisive spells in the future.

Just a matter of persistence. He definitely deserves a long run.
 
He will improve further with the time and also he has grap the opporunity with both hand and played well in t20s odi and test so far
 
better prospect than what we've seen but can't say that until he wins us a an innings in a test or LOI game
 
babajee said:
Wahab and Sami are brainless bowlers. Faheem has some intelligence imo.

Well he’s only been improving since he’s been in the setup for the last year or so. As his fitness improves as well I think he will be able to bowl incisive spells in the future.

Just a matter of persistence. He definitely deserves a long run.
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Rubbish but they were still front line bowlers.

Faheem's bowling isn't good enough to be a 5th option so he falls well below these 2. As for long term prospects he doesn't much going for him because he's short, like Hasan Ali of course but he has the skill set to bowl with new and old ball, plus he's a lot more quicker and looks a lot more intimidating as well.
 
Even in the PSL there have been no match winning knocks from him. I would have thought the hype brigade would have had higher standards. It's astonishing that Faheem gets more hype on here than Shadab.
 
ArsenalFC said:
Even in the PSL there have been no match winning knocks from him. I would have thought the hype brigade would have had higher standards. It's astonishing that Faheem gets more hype on here than Shadab.
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He batted at like 8. What else would you expect from Misbah?
 
ArsenalFC said:
Rubbish but they were still front line bowlers.

Faheem's bowling isn't good enough to be a 5th option so he falls well below these 2. As for long term prospects he doesn't much going for him because he's short, like Hasan Ali of course but he has the skill set to bowl with new and old ball, plus he's a lot more quicker and looks a lot more intimidating as well.
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Can you specify precisely what you're looking from a fifth bowler?

For me, he's filling the role just fine. With Faheem as an option, we can keep the other bowlers fresh by not over-bowling them as we did in the Misbah era, so they can bowl better spells, without bowling part-timers which the other team feels like they can easily dominate. Faheem's spell today showed that he isn't just a rubbish part-timer, he is decent and that's what you need from a fifth bowler. He is not going to be a out and out wicket-taking threat but he does have enough nous to pick up a few wickets here and there.

For me, the only issue is that Shadab is a far better batsman, and is arguably more important with the ball than Faheem as well. So Shadab is taking more responsibility in both areas. The possible alternative would be to play someone like Hussain Talat who is a more accomplished batsman than Faheem, but not too much worse as a bowler. However, he hasn't put up many decent performances in first-class cricket, whereas Faheem has (at least with the ball).

Unless there are some blatantly obvious shortcomings that are hindering the team (which I am not seeing in this case), I'd like to think that the likes of Mickey and Sarfaraz know what they're doing, and have good reasoning behind their selections and tactics.
 
Given our lack of batting options, no reason why Faheem shouldn't be given a further run and allowed to develop further. He can become a proper all rounder for us.
 
Abdullah719 said:
Can you specify precisely what you're looking from a fifth bowler?

For me, he's filling the role just fine. With Faheem as an option, we can keep the other bowlers fresh by not over-bowling them as we did in the Misbah era, so they can bowl better spells, without bowling part-timers which the other team feels like they can easily dominate. Faheem's spell today showed that he isn't just a rubbish part-timer, he is decent and that's what you need from a fifth bowler. He is not going to be a out and out wicket-taking threat but he does have enough nous to pick up a few wickets here and there.

For me, the only issue is that Shadab is a far better batsman, and is arguably more important with the ball than Faheem as well. So Shadab is taking more responsibility in both areas. The possible alternative would be to play someone like Hussain Talat who is a more accomplished batsman than Faheem, but not too much worse as a bowler. However, he hasn't put up many decent performances in first-class cricket, whereas Faheem has (at least with the ball).

Unless there are some blatantly obvious shortcomings that are hindering the team (which I am not seeing in this case), I'd like to think that the likes of Mickey and Sarfaraz know what they're doing, and have good reasoning behind their selections and tactics.
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Faheem to me is more of a 6th bowling option because he lacks pace, skills and height. 5th bowling option would be someone who is good enough to average mid 30s and I'm not convinced Faheem can.

I agree he bowled well today but he is a number 8 at best - well number 7 with Sarfraz's form.

He's good enough outside Asia to retain his spot, but in Asia I'm not so sure because you want your 5th and 6th options to be ideally spinners.

Indeed Misbah was tactically inept evident from him bowling Yasir (and others) to the ground, so it is refreshing to see that these tactics, which affected us particularly in Edgbaston 2016 after accumulating a near 150 run lead is not being repeated again this time round.

I agree with your point about about Talat as well, his FC average isn't great. Faheem's similar (low 30s) but this doesn't reflect his recent form. Shadab for me should be given the responsibility as a full time batsman batting at number 6 especially in the UAE and given the backing from the management that his batting development is more far more valuable for the greater good of the team.
 
I don't think he deserves in test squad. His batting is average, Hasan talat will do better job than Fahim.
 
He is going to take time to develop. As a bowler he has improved . As a batsmen he still has work to do.
 
He has done well so far. Don't expect an ATG performance from someone who is playing his 3rd tests.
 
Shouldn't be in tests and ODI teams. Not good enough to get in on batting or bowling. I mean he bats at 8 for goodness sake, and isn't entrusted full bowling over quota. Having a specialist no.8 is ridiculous.

Shadab is a superior allrounder who holds on bowling alone, and even has had more significant batting scores than Fahim and looks the part even in tests. Fahim hasn't had a single batting (or bowling really except in T20s) performance of worth yet despite being with the team for a year apart from an 80 against Ireland, which again is Ireland. And his batting is devoid of structure, he'll give you a few chances here and there, doesn't look like he'll grind a score in tests. He bats like part of the tail, chancing his arm and he bowls like a part timer. Not necessarily his fault entirely, he does bat at 8 and is not treated as a main bowler. He will never be consistent playing like he currently does. But still I'd question what's the point.

Not to mention Shadab's like 5 years younger.

I'd play him in the T20 teams. Once he's learnt to bowl and bat consistently in domestic bring him back. But we can't afford to carry around a passenger in the side for years even if he's talented. I had hope for his bowling, he can crank it up and can deceptively hurry the batsman (which is more useful in ODIs) but he can't really do anything else with the ball. Needs to improve his skill with the ball to push for a place, currently just isn't good enough.
 
Hasan123 said:
He is going to take time to develop. As a bowler he has improved . As a batsmen he still has work to do.
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He's been with the team a year now. And his stats are still terrible. Another year and it will be world cup.

I don't think we can afford to carry someone for years like that. We don't have the time, nor the strength of team to do that, we're a long way from no.1.

Shadab's shown himself as the superior allrounder bat and ball, and unlike Fahim makes it in on at least bowling no question. And Shadab is 5 years younger.

Let Fahim develop in domestic, bring him back when ready and only play him currently in T20s at international level.
 
Judging positive or negative shouldn’t be premature, so far you can see the potential and needs time to make his mark. We have lacked a seaming all rounder over the last 10 years, he might be able to fill that void so I fully back the investment being made.

Pace will increase and batting will improve, give him 10 - 15 test before passing judgement
 
ads101 said:
He's been with the team a year now. And his stats are still terrible. Another year and it will be world cup.

I don't think we can afford to carry someone for years like that. We don't have the time, nor the strength of team to do that, we're a long way from no.1.

Shadab's shown himself as the superior allrounder bat and ball, and unlike Fahim makes it in on at least bowling no question. And Shadab is 5 years younger.

Let Fahim develop in domestic, bring him back when ready and only play him currently in T20s at international level.
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He isn't going to develop in domestics . Mickey has trust in him for a reason. He is a young player you can't expect him to be amazing straight away. All rounders take time to develop. His bowling has improved. He just needs more oppuritines with the bat and he will improve.
 
Faheem actually bowls around 135-140 kph. In the CT I believe he was hovering around 141 kph so clearly the pace is there.

Secondly, he’s a great hitter. He hasn’t produced well in LOI but he has the ability to. We need to persist with him. He is far better than any of his competitors (I don’t believe Talat is his competition)

Fakhar
Babar
Haris
Talat
Sarfraz
Asif Ali
Imad/Hafeez
Faheem
Shadab
Hassan
Amir
 
This thread feels like de ja vu lol

But yes, Faheem is looking to be a top talent and someone who keeps getting better. If he can pitch in with a wicket or two per innings in tests, and something similar LOIs, plus average 20-30 down at 7, it is all Pakistan really need if the rest of the team do their jobs (as at Lord's).
 
Pakistan has won last two test matches, because of batting of Fahim and Shadab. If they were not there, we could have lost both matches. These two allrounders are vital for our success in West, where second half needs to bat deep.
 
yasir said:
Pakistan has won last two test matches, because of batting of Fahim and Shadab. If they were not there, we could have lost both matches. These two allrounders are vital for our success in West, where second half needs to bat deep.
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Alteast some body have realized importance of both shadab and fahim
 
Pakistan doesn’t have a large number of high class allrounders. We need to piack the best from avaislabke ones and invest in him with patience . Fahim fits the bill, he is young and hopefully in 2-3 years , will become the all rounder we wished for .
 
He is an excellent talent and has the potential to be world class. :shhh
 
ads101 said:
Shouldn't be in tests and ODI teams. Not good enough to get in on batting or bowling. I mean he bats at 8 for goodness sake, and isn't entrusted full bowling over quota. Having a specialist no.8 is ridiculous.

Shadab is a superior allrounder who holds on bowling alone, and even has had more significant batting scores than Fahim and looks the part even in tests. Fahim hasn't had a single batting (or bowling really except in T20s) performance of worth yet despite being with the team for a year apart from an 80 against Ireland, which again is Ireland. And his batting is devoid of structure, he'll give you a few chances here and there, doesn't look like he'll grind a score in tests. He bats like part of the tail, chancing his arm and he bowls like a part timer. Not necessarily his fault entirely, he does bat at 8 and is not treated as a main bowler. He will never be consistent playing like he currently does. But still I'd question what's the point.

Not to mention Shadab's like 5 years younger.

I'd play him in the T20 teams. Once he's learnt to bowl and bat consistently in domestic bring him back. But we can't afford to carry around a passenger in the side for years even if he's talented. I had hope for his bowling, he can crank it up and can deceptively hurry the batsman (which is more useful in ODIs) but he can't really do anything else with the ball. Needs to improve his skill with the ball to push for a place, currently just isn't good enough.
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How on earth is he a passenger, has already contributed some clutch runs and picked up some big wickets.

He isn't the finished product nor is it ideal that he is essentially a fifth bowler who bats at #8, but you have to remember that it's a team game. In early summer conditions, it would be stupid to just play three seamers, but you can't go and play four out and out pacers anyway, you need to find a balance. Faheem is providing that balance perfectly, he is decent with the ball and has actually bowled very well in the current match. With a spinner like Shadab in the mix, a fifth bowler is a must otherwise the pressure on the front-line pacers will be simply too much.

It's easy to look at the stats and say he doesn't have great stats but you have to look at the bigger picture. Look at the overall contribution and the team's composition - who would you prefer over him? Please don't say a batsman, we had enough of those tactics during the Misbah era which resulted in all our bowlers being frequently run into the ground, and that was only possible because of Yasir's ridiculous work-rate anyway, which can't be easily replicated.
 
Anoter important wicket for Faheem Ashraf with a very good delivery to Bairstow.
 
ads101 said:
Shouldn't be in tests and ODI teams. Not good enough to get in on batting or bowling. I mean he bats at 8 for goodness sake, and isn't entrusted full bowling over quota. Having a specialist no.8 is ridiculous.

Shadab is a superior allrounder who holds on bowling alone, and even has had more significant batting scores than Fahim and looks the part even in tests. Fahim hasn't had a single batting (or bowling really except in T20s) performance of worth yet despite being with the team for a year apart from an 80 against Ireland, which again is Ireland. And his batting is devoid of structure, he'll give you a few chances here and there, doesn't look like he'll grind a score in tests. He bats like part of the tail, chancing his arm and he bowls like a part timer. Not necessarily his fault entirely, he does bat at 8 and is not treated as a main bowler. He will never be consistent playing like he currently does. But still I'd question what's the point.

Not to mention Shadab's like 5 years younger.

I'd play him in the T20 teams. Once he's learnt to bowl and bat consistently in domestic bring him back. But we can't afford to carry around a passenger in the side for years even if he's talented. I had hope for his bowling, he can crank it up and can deceptively hurry the batsman (which is more useful in ODIs) but he can't really do anything else with the ball. Needs to improve his skill with the ball to push for a place, currently just isn't good enough.
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He has bowled better than Rahat.
 
ads101 said:
Shouldn't be in tests and ODI teams. Not good enough to get in on batting or bowling. I mean he bats at 8 for goodness sake, and isn't entrusted full bowling over quota. Having a specialist no.8 is ridiculous.

Shadab is a superior allrounder who holds on bowling alone, and even has had more significant batting scores than Fahim and looks the part even in tests. Fahim hasn't had a single batting (or bowling really except in T20s) performance of worth yet despite being with the team for a year apart from an 80 against Ireland, which again is Ireland. And his batting is devoid of structure, he'll give you a few chances here and there, doesn't look like he'll grind a score in tests. He bats like part of the tail, chancing his arm and he bowls like a part timer. Not necessarily his fault entirely, he does bat at 8 and is not treated as a main bowler. He will never be consistent playing like he currently does. But still I'd question what's the point.

Not to mention Shadab's like 5 years younger.

I'd play him in the T20 teams. Once he's learnt to bowl and bat consistently in domestic bring him back. But we can't afford to carry around a passenger in the side for years even if he's talented. I had hope for his bowling, he can crank it up and can deceptively hurry the batsman (which is more useful in ODIs) but he can't really do anything else with the ball. Needs to improve his skill with the ball to push for a place, currently just isn't good enough.
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Oh come on, he has taken 2 out top 6 in this innings alone, both wickets were bowlers wickets, plus he does not bowl rubbish deliveries(like Rahat, Anwar, Bhatti types), has decent control. Its not like we have battery of fast bowlers in the pipeline. He has bowled better than Rahat and other trundlers Misbah used to injected as experienced specialist, none of which can hold the bad. I don't get what are you complaining about ?? :acp:

His pull and hook is better than our top 5. Cut is not that bad too. Batting skills are more than decent.

As I said earlier, Fahim and Shadab are the reason we won last two test matches. We would not have lost 6 tests in a row in AUS/NZ if they were in the team, could have drawn and won half of those. Seaming Allrounder is must in West, he is the best seam ball allrounder in the country in all formats, we must invest in him...Most of the fans, cannot think in long term :facepalm:
 
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I saw him bowl in the Series down under. Thought he was awful and just one of the most ridiculous selections

However seeing him now in Uk has been a real eye opener. He bowls at good pace, has excellent line and length, keeps it tight and nips it around a bit. Obviously in Lord’s there’s always help with slope but in Leeds he’s been quite tight.

With the bat he has contributed some useful runs. The key thing is there has been real improvements in him and shows he can learn and develop as a player. He’s still young so it bodes well for the future.
 
Faheem Ashraf is not a genuine allrounder . He can be effective player in limited overs .
 
Faheem will come very good as time progress, they just need to keep working with him and back him up. I do believe that Shadab is the genunine allrounder, but Faheem can get their.
 
Really impressive player.

Has a very high ceiling.

He can easily average 35+ with the bat and 37 with the ball. This is good for a 5th bowler.
 
Can't believe some people are actually questioning Fahim's spot in the side. I guess they haven't been paying attention to his contributions with both bat and ball.



Bigger issue is lack of runs by Imam, Azhar, Asad, Haris and Sarfaraz and lack of penetration by Hasan
 
Has been really impressive with the ball in this game. In many ways our best bowler here.
 
This attitude of discarding a player just because other 10 players are not doing there job is the reason Pakistan keep struggling with a consistent core set of players.I wonder what some posters expect from faheem.His close competitor Pandya scored 80 in first test against SA,took a few wickets then nothing in the remaining two tests(Cant forget that stupid run out).Faheem has scored against Ireland and again in Lords test and has been handy with the ball.
Some posters here need to understand you don't develop players and a team by this attitude.Thats why you guys struggled under Misbah-Waqar combo as there was no consistency in the team.
Some posters here wanted baber out of the team but credit to mickey to persist with him.He got runs in tough circumstances againist England and Ireland.Finally I will say the best example of this approach has to be Rohit Sharma.He was given a long rope and today is one of the best LOI batsman in the world.If Faheem is dropped as per some posters be prepared to see another example of Umar Akmal vs Kohli thread.
 
Bowled better this test. Maybe I was wrong. I have few complaints if he can perform with the ball to a similar level to our main bowlers even if he's a bit underwhelming with the bat I'm fine.
 
One problem is that he tries to bang in the ball a bit too much at times.

He's not quick enough to bang it in against players who are good back foot players.
 
I like this kid. He has to show the sort of batting he displayed in the warm up to CT against bAnglas a year ago when he hammered like 80 or something and won us When we were looking at certain defeat.

We know he is capable of that.. but bowling wise he has been upto the mark..
 
He has shown decent performance. We are yet to see his true hitting potential with the bat. That one earth shattering knock with the bat is around the corner
 
I know it’s his job to hit out. But it’s almost like the team management is setting him, Imad and Asif up for failure by sending them in to bat so late in the innings.

There where multiple occasions in the last few t20s and ODIs where we could’ve sent Asif, Faheem or Imad into bat with 5-10 overs left but they kept on sending in Hafeez, Malik or Sarfraz instead. In the end the young players who actually need international batting practice only get 1-2 overs to bat.

I know the ‘seniors’ may do a better job but I’d rather they send in the young hitters in before the seniors from time to time to test them out before the World Cup.
 
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Can't expect anything from a batsman coming in the last 10 balls of the innings.
 
For me the highlight of his batting career so far has been running for 5 runs in today's match.

We don't have any reliable power hitters unfortunately.
 
j_kazmi said:
I know it’s his job to hit out. But it’s almost like the team management is setting him, Imad and Asif up for failure by sending them in to bat so late in the innings.

There where multiple occasions in the last few t20s and ODIs where we could’ve sent Asif, Faheem or Imad into bat with 5-10 overs left but they kept on sending in Hafeez, Malik or Sarfraz instead. In the end the young players who actually need international batting practice only get 1-2 overs to bat.

I know the ‘seniors’ may do a better job but I’d rather they send in the young hitters in before the seniors from time to time to test them out before the World Cup.
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Spot on. Was tailor made for Asif and Faheem when Haris got out
 
I never considered him as an all-rounder because i've never seen him bat like one. To me, he has always been a good bowler. Which is why i don't mind him being in the team. Recently he has been a lot better than Hasan.
 
FAheem is a bowler who has the so called ability to hit big which I have never seen.

I rate the batting of Wasim Akram more than FAheem and Wasim is not an all rounder.
 
Faheem needs to work hard on his batting if he is playing as an all-rounder. I like his bowling recently, keeping it tight, I just wish he gets some away swing going so he can pick wickets as well.
 
Should be treated as a bowler and not an all rounder He has shown very little with the bat to be considered one
 
I am not convinced by his cricketing abilities. A bits and pieces player. Unfit for international cricket.
 
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He’s got a knack for picking up wickets. But what Pakistan needs most from him is his batting because we haven’t had a good finisher in a very long time.

He’s shown signs that he may have some talent with the bat but he’s not good enough at the moment.

If he can’t fulfill his role with the bat then he’s effectively only in the team for his bowling. So with this in mind why should he play when we can play another full time pace bowler over this part time bowler.
 
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saeed5646 said:
Fahim my boy

I Hope haters will be quite for some time now
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we need his batting more than bowling where he is awful.I am still not convinced with his selection, He has to deliver with the bat otherwise we have better specialists bowlers.
 
DRsohail said:
we need his batting more than bowling where he is awful.I am still not convinced with his selection, He has to deliver with the bat otherwise we have better specialists bowlers.
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Uae is not the place to judge batting of allrounder.he is no way near good at batting but he can be handy on true pitches of england where he can hit big sixes.

From the current available fast bowling allrounders he is best whose bowling is top class and batting need little tinkering
 
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saeed5646 said:
Uae is not the place to judge batting of allrounder.he is no way near good at batting but he can be handy on true pitches of england where he can hit big sixes.

From the current available fast bowling allrounders he is best whose bowling is top class and batting need little tinkering
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Have played matches in NZ and SA and was even worst, until and unless he improves or deliver with the bat he shoulde warming the benches.
 
DRsohail said:
Have played matches in NZ and SA and was even worst, until and unless he improves or deliver with the bat he shoulde warming the benches.
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Far from finished product and still not find his mojo with bat in international cricket but have shown glimpses of his talent in test matches in england ,ireland .Should definitely play for pakistan alone with his bowling which is top notch
 
If only he could hold a bat, would have been an asset for the side.
 
He has a hard working domestic bully. That’s it. Can be handy with the ball in t20 and lower order hitting but useless in ODIs
 
saeed5646 said:
Far from finished product and still not find his mojo with bat in international cricket but have shown glimpses of his talent in test matches in england ,ireland .Should definitely play for pakistan alone with his bowling which is top notch
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no way he is better than specialist bowler except t20i.His average is 60 with yhe ball against top 5 teams.
 
he's good for domestic cricket and leagues... still not convinced with him at the international stage
 
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